Kilmar Abrego Garcia detained by ICE in Baltimore
By: Emily Crane
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Alleged MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia was again detained by ICE Monday — as he faces the possibility of now being deported to Uganda.
"Today, ICE law enforcement arrested Kilmar Abrego Garcia and are processing him for deportation," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said.
"President Trump is not going to allow this illegal alien, who is an MS-13 gang member, human trafficker, serial domestic abuser, and child predator to terrorize American citizens any longer."
The 30-year-old had reported to the ICE Field Office in Baltimore just after 7:30 a.m. after being released from a Tennessee jail last week as he awaits trial on human smuggling charges.
Abrego Garcia, who was brought back to the US in June after being deported to his native El Salvador earlier this year, had rejected an offer last week to plead guilty to the charges.
US officials offered to send him to Costa Rica if he copped to transporting migrants living illegally in the US - or risk being sent to Uganda, his lawyers argued in court documents.
"They're holding Costa Rica as a carrot and using Uganda as a stick," his lawyer, Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, said outside the ICE field office in downtown Baltimore.
"They're weaponizing the immigration system in a way that's completely unconstitutional."
Abrego Garcia was detained by immigration authorities shortly after reporting for a scheduled interview.
He has since filed a lawsuit in federal court in Maryland seeking an order for him not to be deported anywhere unless he has had the chance to contest being sent there, his lawyer said.
"I expect there's going to be a status conference very promptly, and we're going to ask for an interim order that he not be deported, pending his due process rights to contest deportation to any particular country," Sandoval-Moshenberg said.
The smuggling allegations stem from a 2022 traffic stop during which the construction worker was pulled over on a Tennessee highway with eight passengers in the car, but no luggage.
Local cops had suspected human smuggling but he was not charged at the time.
He was also previously accused of physically abusing his wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, a US citizen who has been fiercely advocating on his behalf.
The Trump administration has said it is trying to deport Abrego Garcia months before his trial is scheduled in Tennessee, alleging that the married father is a danger to the community and an MS-13 gang member.
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Anybody NOT see this coming?
I bet many of the dem congress already had their plans to go to say goodbye to their hero before he left. They will forget about him in a week or less as soon as they think their are no more political points to be made.
I imagine they are all in their basements trying to figure out how to keep him.
I hope their constituents note that their congress people care more about an illegal criminal than they do about the citizens
If they haven't already then there is a problem.
Maybe this time they will follow Constitutional law and give him due process.
They already did. There's been a final deportation order for years.
Then why did SCOTUS order him returned?
This has been explained numerous times. The final deportation order allowed him to be deported to any country but El Salvador because he claimed a rival gang there put his life in danger. Uganda is not El Salvador.
They did. It resulted in him getting sent home. Then Democrats cried (no surprise there), he was brought back to the US and now he's being sent somewhere else.
And if he was provided due process, why wasn't that followed?
They fucked up, now they will send him to Uganda. He's probably wishing the Democrats would have stayed out of it, he can look forward to living in a mud hut and eating grasshoppers.
Correct, by not providing due process.
That is a good question. Why wasn't he deported earlier in accordance with the order?
becuase he was being held in jail on the human trafficking charge.
When was he officially charged?
March.
In court? Cannot find that anywhere. Please provide a link to that March court case.
You can't find reports of him being indicted? Really? Try typing the words "Abrego Garcia indictment". I'm confident you can puzzle this out.
He was deported in March. He was not indicted until he returned to the US in June.
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Gee that was hard. Kilmar Abrego Garcia Charged With Human Trafficking: Read the Indictment - Newsweek
Read the Criminal Indictment Against Kilmar Abrego Garcia
Kilmar Abrego Garcia Indictment Claims Alleged Human Smuggler Lied About Travel Schedule During Tennessee Traffic Stop - Tennessee Star
Indictment details human trafficking charges, stemming from TN traffic stop, against man deported to El Salvador
And just like the left wing media, most leftists here will ignore these stories.
I think it is common knowledge that the Trump DoJ indicted this man. It is also obvious that he is a political pawn whose life is being unnecessarily fucked with by Trump and his minions.
His life was fucked by his own actions.
Are you saying he is innocent of the charges?
Show me where "all" the accusations are false and I might agree with you.
No. Where do you see that?
Agree with me on what ... your strawman?
My point was that Garcia is a political pawn. Did you not see that??
And not one of those stories was from March. The issue was not “has he been indicted,” but “when was he indicted.”
The Democrats turned him into a political pawn. ICE fucked up and sent him back to El Salvado, they are correcting that now.
and your point is? He didn't get deported for the trafficking.
Trump is the agent here. This is his game.
I told you my point. The issue was about the timing of the indictment. I have no other point beyond answering the question. If you don’t understand still, just scroll up a little and read some of the thread.
Some here believe life choices are the fault of someone else.
No one made him come here illegally.
No one made him beat his wife...at least twice
No one made him deal drugs.
No one made him smuggle other illegals into the country.
No one made him join a notorious lethal gang.
But go ahead leftists......keep coddling him..
You are the best spokespeople for 8 more years of Vance
It's mind boggling the number of people that are arguing to keep this POS in the country. And with THE MOST PATHETIC excuses.
They wait for Trump to decide about it and take the opposite side. Any critical thinking on their own has been thrown out the window.
It is pathetic
When the real reason is but but but Trump trying to defend it is impossible so they resort to some real weak bullshit.
If the administration had just provided due process the opposition to it would have been much less. If we didnt deport hispanics to Africa, if we didnt build a camp for detainees in the middle of an alligator habitat, or send them to a third country gulag, the perception most likely would have been different.[✘]
If all that were true the folks would have just found something else to whine about.
When that happens, like in 1.2.30, I just let them blather on. 90% of the time they are running off what somebody told somebody that told somebody and completely oblivious to facts.
Then why didn't you find links that applied???
1st link = The United States fetched Kilmar Abrego Garcia from El Salvador on Friday, nearly three months after his mistaken deportation
2nd link = Same as above, referencing the indictment AFTER he was already deported.
3rd link = Again, referencing the indictment AFTER he had already been deported.
Sean and I were discussing due process before the initial deportation and Sean claimed that he had been indicted BEFORE that deportation. None of your links support Sean's claim.
Not ignoring them, they just have nothing to do with the discussion. It is easy to supply links to articles if you are not concerned with what the articles are about.
Have not seen anybody arguing that. The argument is that if you are going to deport someone you should do so legally without violating their Constitutional rights.
You should pay closer attention.
His rights weren't violated. He was apprehended, he was charges, he went to trial, he was deported.
No, you are completely misrepresenting what I said. This was all hashed out months ago and it's tiresome constantly repeating basic facts. His indictment is not relevant to whether he's deportable. He's been deportable since the final deportation order was entered. The indictment is only relevant to whether the feds want to keep him in jail and have him serve time for human trafficking in America before deporting him.
I will lay out the chronology as simply as I can for you.
1. A Deportation order was entered for Abrego Garcia in 2019. He claimed he was threatened by a rival gang in el salvador so the order allowed him to be deported to any country but El Salvador. He received all the required due process before the deportation order was entered.
2. He was picked up and deported to El Salvador. Per the deportation order, he could be deported to any country but El Salvador.
3. He was indicted for human trafficking. Even if he's found not guilty of human trafficking, he can be deported to any country in the world but El Salvador.
This was all discussed in numerous seeds months ago.
And it will continue to be ignored three months from now.
I want him to come out and declare his support for oxygen....
Maybe you should read 1.2.16 again. Every link has to do with the illegal, drug pushing, wife beating, human smuggling POS this seed is about.
This is what most on the left are pissed about. They are fighting to keep one of their voters in the country.
They are fighting to keep illegals / criminals in the country. To the point they have gone to other countries in attempts to retrieve those that have been deported.
The existence of that deportation order eliminates ALL crying and whining about "due process". The order IS THE RESULT of the due process.
That eliminates all the whining and crying about "allegedly" being in a gang.
That, really, was the only problem in the deportation. They could have snatched him from the El Salvador prison and dropped him ANYWHERE. There was no need to bring him back to the US.
It ends the discussion. Or does at least for those who believe in the rule of law and who don't think due process means infinity appeals until you get the result you want.
you would think it would. But you know a certain demographic has a problem accepting facts.
It's my understanding he was deported because he had an order for deportation, just not to El Salvador, second, he was illegal, third he was a member for a gang.
I await your links...
Then why did they force the Trump administration to bring him back?
True, false, false, true.
FFS - follow the damned law and deport him - period.
Sad thing is, they did initially. Then a liberal "judge" made an idiotic ruling and he was brought back.
No shit. Should have taken the deal. More Dem congress people would have flown to Costa Rica for a photo op than Uganda.
Funny thing is his lawyer cried that he could not be sent to Uganda because he does not speak the language, however, from his whiny little press conference yesterday, he can't speak English either.
I would think Costa Rica would be a much better place for him since they speak Spanish there, but most on the left loves their rapists, killers, wife beaters and drug dealers, otherwise, they would have no voters.
Just saw this bit of comedy:
You can't make up this level of utter stupidity.
Obviously he can't speak English either since he used an interpreter at his "news conference" yesterday.
And we all know that is was 100% bs. That fkr speaks english.
The things most on the left fall for.
Freaking hilarious.
Alleged.
Why won't ICE or this administration actually provide evidence in court and give him due process?
If he's guilty they can put him in jail and then deport him without question.
It's this administration that admitted they made the mistake of deporting him to begin with. If he is guilty of crimes then why don't they use lawful courts and due process in light of this administration making the mistake?
Because the guy is a political pawn. They do not give one shit about what is right or legal, they have placed a stake in the ground and unfortunately, this guy is the pawn they are using in their sick game.
Is that why Democrats are fighting so hard to keep him? They don't care about what is right or legal?
What a totally confused question. What is right is to go after criminals. They deported him by mistake but now are using him as the political football in their struggle to always 'win' no matter how wrong they are. It is sick.
They want to keep him because they care about his rights. That is why they yelled so loudly when Obama deported so many on a fast track that kept them from seeing their day in court. S/
Of course they don't. In a few weeks when they get their photo ops and sing their songs for CNN and MSNBC they will forget his name.
Is that the same reason that republicans yelled so loudly about Obama not providing due process? Since republicans were NOT looking for any excuse to impeach Obama and a violation of the Constitution would NOT provide that opportunity? S/
Please give link.
Well nuts, once again the request for evidence to verify someone's point was ignored. Why bother to try to have a discussion when it's just 'trust me bro' type shit.
Nothing confusing about it. When you look at the WHOLE comment and not cherry picked lines.
Yet Democrats flew to el Salvador in a pathetic attempt to bring him back to the US.
This "mistake" was WHERE he was sent. Not the deportation.
They don't give a shit about his rights.
You do not know that he was sent to El Salvador illegally??
Yes, so you do know that he was sent there illegally. You object to politicians attempting to right this wrong??
As for deporting him, Trump is not just deporting criminals, he is going after any illegal. Even those who have domiciled here for years, with jobs, raising families, being part of the social fabric, and not engaging in crime. It is one thing to deport someone who just crossed the border. It is, for those who have a shred of human decency, a very different matter to disrupt families, etc. for those who have been here for years. Especially when individuals are sent to prisons ... in nations other than their homeland. This is a sick level of cruelty.
But Trump does it so for some that means it is good.
Don't you mean he was sent home before a partisan hack judge made a ruling AFTER he left the country?
They never said they would overlook those here illegally. It's laughable, but not surprising, that you are supporting having illegals in the country.
Not a surprise.
You have no point
No, the reality is that it was illegal to send him back to El Salvador.
Trump campaigned on criminals (and the insane). Do you not recognize the humane difference between deporting criminals and those who recently crossed our borders vs. deporting one or both parents in a family that has domiciled here for years, are behaving properly, are employed, are raising families (with children who are citizens jus soli), etc?
and why not El Salvador?
I recognize the requirement to deport those who cross the border illegally. Doesn't matter if they've been here 15 minutes or 15 years.
Go find out the facts. This is old news and was widely discussed.
You want me to prove a negative? Really???
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Well, in your post of 5.1.4 you posted this
You were asked for a link and you refused to do so with your posting of 5.1.6 telling the requestor he just didn't get your point. And now you're trying to say your comment of republicans yelling at Obama for not providing due process was really a negative statement?
So what you're saying is that Republicans did not yell at Obama. I know you're wrong on this because I know the Republicans yelled at Obama a lot.
So what are you trying to say?
So, just what do you thing the "S/" stands for???
Nope, never said that. Are you trying to troll me? I said that the republicans never challenged Obama about due process during his deportations.
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Because ICE picked him up for deportation because he is here illegally.
Yeah, no.
He had his due process and a final deportation was ordered. What do you think due process is?
He's had his due process and his day in Court. He lost. Send him to Uganda.
Sadly for him, he probably won't live in a compound surrounded armed guards to like the socialist who will be the next mayor of New York does in Uganda.
Boy, they really got a hard-on for this one dude, who by most accounts, seemed to be living the ordinary family life.
And if it’s not him, they’re collecting day laborers at Home Depot. My HEE-rows!
Meanwhile, we know where the actual gang members are. It’s not a fucking secret. But you never see ICE in the neighborhoods with actual criminals. Probably too scary.
Yep. What ordinary family man among us hasn't been identified by local gang experts as a gang member, accused of human trafficking and beating women and been identified as a threat to his step-children's safety by their father.
The perfect poster child for democrats.
Accused? The president accused Haitians of eating dogs and cats. That doesn’t make it true. I have no special love for this guy, but if he is a criminal, the government should have to prove it.
How much energy, manpower, and money is being spent in this one guy? Did we even work this hard on Osama bin Laden or Al Capone? Y’all act like he’s the Unabomber - you know the Unabomber. He was Trump’s uncle’s favorite student. Allegedly.
Meanwhile, as I said, we know where the criminals are, but ICE wants to chase non-criminals across farms.
But nothing this administration does could possibly be done in a better way, right?
Is it the PResident who accused him? Or his wife, the local police, the father of his step children, his partner in trafficking women, the Tennessee state police etcc,
It's all some giant conspiracy against this ordinary family man.
hat doesn’t make it true.
Just like you bizarrely calling him an ordinary family guy doesn't make it true either.
I have no special love for this guy
Really? Calling him an ordinary family man at this point sure seems like it. Do most ordinary family men have restraining orders filed against them? Handle the women they traffic so roughly that even MS-13 had qualms over it?
much energy, manpower, and money is being spent in this one guy
So on this thread you are against enforcing the rule of law. Hard to keep up sometimes.
I didn’t call him that. Others have.
Why do you need to lie? I want to see the guy get a trial. That’s an endorsement of enforcing the law.
So he's living an ordinary family life, but he's not an ordinary family guy. Got it.
I want to see the guy get a trial,. That’s an endorsement of enforcing the law.
There's a final deportation order in effect. How many trials does he get? You are complaining that the Admin is in fact enforcing the law (a final deportation order) because he's supposedly a guy living an ordinary family life, which apparently exempts him from valid judicial orders.
No you don’t “got it” at all. I clearly said,
That means it’s not coming from me. It’s coming from other people. Got it now?!
Well, it seems to me that if one "quotes" a group to prove a point, said person certainly does appear to agree with "other people". Otherwise, why would one bring it up?
That's a bold, unwarranted assumption. It's also wrong, which should not be surprising.
I thought I was pretty plain, but I will try to clarify for you, if you are genuinely interested.
The government is putting out a big effort for a guy that has a reputation (other than the government's opinion) for being a harmless family man. My comment was about priorities based on available information. I make no judgement for myself about what kind of person he really is.
I want my government going after genuinely bad people, like they promised. I want them behaving in a way that is efficient and also shows respect for the law.
But thus far, in this particular case, the government appears to be behaving secretively, dishonestly, and in opposition to the law. And doing so with very high effort and expense for this one person whom no one had ever even heard of before.
The government has openly lied about this person, claiming he has MS-13 tattooed on his knuckles. He does not. This was supposed to show his gang affiliation. Curiously, he's not actually being charged with that.
Now, as I understand it, they are charging him with human smuggling and transport of illegal aliens for financial gain. But they don't want him to have a trial. They just want to deport him without proving the charge.
If they had just had a regular trial for this guy to begin with, he might already be deported. The government's unwillingness to pursue normal procedure sends the message that they believe they will lose in court. At this point, considering the dirth of probative evidence that he is a criminal, and against the backdrop of his positive reputation, the government just looks like they're trying to save face.
I think Democrats have bigger issues than worrying about this guy.
I mean, WTF? Migrant crime and car jackings and crime in general doesn't actually matter to that many Americans? Hard to see how this is just a "messaging problem". If this is a take-away from their summer DNC meeting, all I can say is God help them.
He said out loud what many democrats seem to be thinking.