Robert in Ohio

The Enitlement Mindset

  
By:  Robert in Ohio  •  life choices  •  6 years ago  •  32 comments

The Enitlement Mindset

The Entitlement Mindset


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Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio    6 years ago

I saw this on line and thought it was hilarious and oh so true about many people who classify events in their lives and life challenges as either things they want or things that are unfair because they can't have them, or can't have them as quickly or as easily as they think they should.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

I think i've been fighting the entitlement mindset all my life.  Lately the entitlement mindset has been working hard to brainwash people into thinking free healthcare is a right. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

The bigger issue is that people think something is free because someone else is paying for it.

That is the epitome of ignorance

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I agree.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I was well aware, and not at all resentful, that my Canadian income tax was increased to cover the cost of Canada's healthcare system, but then the more civilized countries of the world use some such universal health care system. Perhaps it is more civilized to not see your neighbours either lose everything or die just because they cannot afford a cure.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

I don't think it's civilized to steal from one and give to another.  If you want to help your neighbor you can do it without the government forcing you to do it and threatening to throw you in jail if you don't. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

I won't argue with your opinion. I guess I was brought up not to be so fucking selfish.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

Buzz

Remember civility even in disagreement please!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

Remember civility? At my age I only remember what I want to remember, and then I forget anyway.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

There are many on NT from whom I do not expect civility, but from you my friend I always have

The key is to rise above not too sink to the level of the rabble

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I don't see anything wrong with what Buzz said. He was simply saying what he means and meaning what he says. No buttthurt was felt on this end.  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

One can say what they mean in very clear terms without profanity

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

Perrie has made it clear that profanity is allowed on this site. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

Just because something is allowed does not make it right.

Profanity is used mostly when one's ability to express oneself in words fails.

You are right may use profanity as you wish, it helps to define your character and personality.

 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I rarely use profanity and I don't not think any less of Buzz for his use of it. I might not agree with him but I'd fight to protect his freedom to say what he feels unfiltered. The site says speak your mind and that's what was on his mind and I respect that. 

Maybe a little tolerance on your part is what is needed. Buzz did nothing wrong. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

I tolerated it rather than deleting the comment and pointed out my view on the matter (speaking my mind) which you seem rather intolerant of.

You are always free to ignore my posts, I will try to live with the disappointment of not getting your viewpoint

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

Don't worry our friendship is strong enough to make it through a little turbulence. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

"A little turbulence"

Okay

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I have to say that I enjoyed reading that little reparte about my profanity. I apologize to you Robert for tainting your article with it, but sometimes I cannot think of an adjective sufficiently superlative and indignant quickly enough. In any event, having followed your dialogue I have great respect for BOTH of you.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

I was brought up to know I could help my neighbor without government standing between the two of us and taking a portion of what I was gifting my neighbor.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

Dean

Think of the government as everyone's neighbor, helping one and all

 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I would shoot a neighbor stealing from me. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

And yet you would drive on that neighbor's (the government) roads and bridges without paying.

Do you ever use a public highway, a bridge, a public park or camp ground, a public library, do your kids go to public school? 

If you answered yes to any of those (and many more examples are possible) then you are  a hypocrite of the highest order with your hatred of the government.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty   6 years ago

"I was brought up to know I could help my neighbor without government standing between the two of us and taking a portion of what I was gifting my neighbor."

I didn't use the word neighbour just to mean the person who lives next door, I meant it to mean all other persons in my country who are unable or even unwilling to support the system. I cannot discount the expression "There but for the grace of God go I". In my lifetime I have been rich and I have been poor, and thankful that I have always had health care.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

Buzz

The entitlement mindset of current society is so much more than the question of universal health coverage in the U.S. - it about people wanting something for nothing, reward without effort, instant gratification if you will and thinking that things they do not pay for are "free" rather than simply paid for by someone else.

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

I was responding specifically to Dean's comment:

" Lately the entitlement mindset has been working hard to brainwash people into thinking free healthcare is a right."

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

Buzz

I got that and my point is that there is no such thing as free healthcare simply because someone else is paying for it.

 

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Robert in Ohio   6 years ago

It was not me who used the word "free".  Whether healthcare is paid for by taxing those who earn enough income to pay taxes or those who self-pay it is not free. For those who earn nothing or insufficient income to pay taxes or the moguls who find ways to pay no taxes, in countries like Canada, it would be free. However, as a system, I would prefer to live in a country with a system like Canada's even if I contribute to it. Sure it is socialistic, but as Robert pointed out, so are public schools, police services, public libraries, every level of government, public highways, streets, garbage collection, public parks, firemen, etc etc etc. If you despise using those socialistic services, don't use them and live in a cave in the wilderness so you don't appear to be a hypocrite.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   6 years ago

Buzz

Point taken thanks for the perspective

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   author  Robert in Ohio    6 years ago