The reason I posted this is because throughout this interview, Lichtman stated clearly how the press has normalized Trump and failed to properly inform the public.
in their defense, the media would spend twice as much time refuting trump lies as covering the story. they should just adopt a standardized flashing bullshit icon and buzzer whenever the orange menace opens his mouth ...
this is going to be another election that proves traditional polling is irreparably skewed and worthless ...
even if it isn't a landslide, trump and his maga sycophants will throw every wrench in the toolbox into the constitutional gears to get the election in front of SCOTUS ...
Maybe the press has FINALLY realized the perils of a biased press and is trying to turn back the clock about three quarters of a century when the press competed for the coveted Award given to the least biased medium (usually won by The Christian Science Monitor back then), an award that would be a hilarious joke today.
I suspect the press is being overly cautious to not be seen as biased. The problem is that Trump is so far over-the-top that they have to really bite their tongues to avoid the biased allegation. And it does not matter, they are criticized for bias anyway.
I made it crystal clear that I seeded this because of Lichtman's criticism of the media.
And you are dead wrong about Lichtman changing his standards; his keys have remained constant. Nate Silver is dealing with many more degrees of freedom in his statistical work than Lichtman so your criticism of Lichtman vs Silver is laughable. In other words, it is far easier to play games of interpretation with Silver's method than Licthman's.
Finally, in a close election, statistical analysis is largely meaningless. The precision of polls in a close election like we have now is insufficient to yield much predictive information.
But, again, the point of this seed is Lichtman's spot-on criticism of the media.
Corporate media doesnt care who wins, or who is the president. Harris has taken as much or more criticism as Trump has from the media, which should be considered absurd on the face of it. But the media doesnt care.
Now we have the worse trend of media bowing before Trump , like the LA Times and Washington Post. If Trump wins expect this trend to grow considerably.
The media has failed miserably. If you cant conclusively point out the flaws in the worst person to ever run for president, when ever will you be able to?
Nate Silver is dealing with many more degrees of freedom in his statistical work than Lichtman so your criticism of Lichtman vs Silver is laughable. In other words, it is far easier to play games of interpretation with Silver's method than Licthma
My point was that Silver has many more degrees of freedom to deal with and thus in a close election his subtle interpretations across those degrees make his predictions unreliable.
Lichtman, in contrast, has a macro system with specific rules. Less potential for interpretation (and thus interpretation errors).
And I am not stating that Lichtman's system is any better (or worse) than Silver's. I am countering your claim that Silver's is necessarily better.
Did you not understand what I wrote or are you ignoring it?
The idea that the media is going easy on Trump just can't be supported, at all. It's truly bizarre, the harder the media works for Harris, the madder progressives seem to get.
this is normal stuff on legacy media. It won't even be a story despite how batshit crazy it is:
Whoopi claims Trump is going to break up interracial marriages and redistribute the white spouses: "He's going to deport and you put the white guy with someone else" "The man is out there!" she declares.
That is only somewhat true on CBS, NBC & ABC. On Fox News and other rightwing media outlets, especially online and on "X", Trump gets overwhelmingly favorable coverage. And the big difference is that rightwing media doesn't hold back at all in vilifying Harris and praising Trump while CBS, NBC & ABC often give Trump a pass even when faced with his many bald-faced lies and treat him as a normal candidate when he is anything but.
So, no one is listening to Kamala Harris? Allan Lichtman is lying his ass off. The press really has covered everything Lichtman is complaining about. Kamala Harris has made all those Trump issues the centerpiece of her interviews, stump speeches, campaign rallies, and advertising.
The voting public knows much, much, much, much, much more about Donald Trump than they do about Kamala Harris. The public has been treated to public Congressional hearings, courtroom proceedings, prosecutor opinions, Presidential denunciations and warnings, published opinions by current and former government officials, public disclosure of recorded interviews and private discussions, and a whole range of reported comments by politicians, bureaucrats, world leaders, and celebrities.
Allan Lichtman conveniently ignores the gorilla sitting in the corner. Harris has had multiple opportunities to inform the public. And Harris has chosen to talk about all the issue that Allan Lichtman highlights. Apparently Lichtman isn't even paying attention to what Kamala Harris has been saying to the public through the press.
Allan Lichtman trying to claim the public is uninformed stretches disbelief into a bizarre caricature of intellectualism. Lichtman is either trapped inside a bubble or he is deliberating spreading misinformation. Everything Lichtman cites has been covered by broadcast news, print news, pundits, infotainment sources, social media influencers, and public statements by current and former government officials. The only way Lichtman could miss all the reporting about Trump is to hide away in an academic office and stick his head up his ass.
Well, nothing special Nerm, but maybe I think that way because about half the voters in America want a convicted criminal pussy-grabbing liar to be their leader instead of a person who was a law-abiding prosecutor and now is the current VP.
Well, nothing special Nerm, but maybe I think that way because about half the voters in America want a convicted criminal pussy-grabbing liar to be their leader instead of a person who was a law-abiding prosecutor and now is the current VP.
You do realize that's an eight year old public disclosure. Since then there have been special counsel investigations, impeachments, Congressional committee hearings, disclosures by past and current public officials, courtroom proceedings, and non-stop press coverage of everything Trump.
The public knows much, much, much, much more about Trump than they do about Kamala Harris' involvement in pushing Joe Biden to forego reelection. The voters chose Trump. The voters did not choose Kamala Harris; voters chose Biden.
Harris got on the ballot the same way strongmen overthrow governments. How do voters know that Harris won't be like Maduro?
Nerm, not being an American I can't vote, but even if I could I wouldn't vote for either one of them. The only person I would vote for would be Liz Cheney, if she were running. The only American who when I heard her speak, that had she run for PotUS I would have moved to Texas to campaign for her because I was so impressed with her, was Anne Richards.
Nerm, not being an American I can't vote, but even if I could I wouldn't vote for either one of them. The only person I would vote for would be Liz Cheney, if she were running. The only American who when I heard her speak, that had she run for PotUS I would have moved to Texas to campaign for her because I was so impressed with her, was Anne Richards.
Well, I am an American and am stuck with this shit. So, don't lecture me about who to vote for from the safety of an adversary who doesn't care about the interests of the United States. Like it or not, you really are in the position of being a foreign agent attempting to influence the election. Bluntly stated, you represent more noise that must be ignored.
From my vantage point, Kamala Harris cannot be allowed the authority of the Presidency. She is too dangerous. The only candidate I can vote for that has a chance of preventing Kamala Harris assuming power over the country is Donald Trump. Trump's record as President informs me that he is not as dangerous as Harris.
Biden's political agenda has been contradictory and self defeating. Harris following Biden's policies would be a disaster. And Harris appears to be advocating to push the country even further in the wrong direction. Opening the country to non-European immigration while governing in a Eurocentric manner is a recipe for internal unrest and conflict. The country is being flooded by immigrants from Central and South America and Biden has been completely ignoring Central and South America. How the hell is that supposed to work? The Biden administration cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. Biden has set up the country for failure. Kamala Harris trying to be more Biden than Biden would be a disaster.
The United States has to decide what is most important. We can't do both. Sitting on the fence only pushed the barbed wire up the crack of our asses and will ultimately divide us. The situation has advanced too for pandering platitudes. We either get tough on immigration or we turn our backs on Europe. We're running out of wiggle room. And immigration is only one, small problem the United States is going to have to confront. Biden has been wishy washy on a number of issues. Biden has refused to negotiate while refusing to choose a clear path forward. Kamala Harris is going to do the same thing. Biden and Harris are the types of politicians who want to be loved as dear leaders more than they want to lead. Trump ain't saddled with that baggage; everybody hates Trump so the only thing he can do is govern.
You do realize that's an eight year old public disclosure.
And because it's eight years old his words shouldn't matter? Conservatives were bringing up Bill Clintons affairs from 30 years back as recently as 2016 when his wife was running for President, but you think eight years is just water under the bridge for a candidate who basically admitted to sexual assault on camera? Talk about a double standard.
Since then there have been special counsel investigations, impeachments, Congressional committee hearings, disclosures by past and current public officials, courtroom proceedings, and non-stop press coverage of everything Trump.
Oh, I see, so the pussy grabbing comments should be considered irrelevant because Trump has done so many much worse things since? It's just amazing to watch Trump supporters twist and contort logic all in an effort to defend the indefensible and kneel before their greasy gold-painted cow God.
Look at this shameless projection. To normalize the cultish behavior of Trump supporters we see this ridiculous projection that Harris supporters are a cult.
Harris's cult says her statements while running for the current Presidential term don't matter.
So, Harris's comments supporting things like Medicare for all in the past and her current position of just trying to build on the ACA which is a politician changing their position on a specific policy is the same as Trump saying several years ago that he likes to sexually assault women he finds attractive and since then has never walked those comments back, he just ignored them and his supporters called them "locker room talk". Those are equivalent statements? So, if an old video of Trump admitting he likes raping kids shows up, should that not matter to anyone anymore if he made the statement a few years ago? Should we just consider that the same as a politician changing their position on a policy and assume he just no longer wants to rape kids?
"So, don't lecture me about who to vote for from the safety of an adversary who doesn't care about the interests of the United States."
There is absolutely NO WAY you can point out where I LECTURED you. And I am speaking as a Canadian who lived most of my life an hour to an hour and a half's drive from the USA, and who from the time I was an INFANT travelled with my mother to Baltimore and since that time spent a hell of a lot of time in and throughout the USA and even for a time owned with my brother a golf condo in Florida and spent vacations there and "From California to the New York island, From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters" a la Woodie Guthrie a damned big part of my life. All I did was post what I would do, and not one fucking word about what YOU should do.
Your comment falsely accusing me in its second sentence was where I stopped reading the comment, which I would continue reading only when I see an apology, and I don't give a shit if there is none - I'll simply put it down to a matter of incivility.
There is absolutely NO WAY you can point out where I LECTURED you. And I am speaking as a Canadian who lived most of his life an hour to an hour and a half's drive from the USA, and who from the time he was an INFANT travelled with his mother to Baltimore and since that time spent a hell of a lot of time in and throughout the USA and even for a time owned with my brother a golf condo in Florida and spent vacations there and from "From California to the New York island, From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters" a la Woodie Guthrie most of my life. All I did was post what I would do, and not one fucking word about what YOU should do. Your comment falsely accusing me in its second sentence was where I stopped reading the comment, which I would continue reading only when I see an apology, and I don't give a shit if there is none - I'll simply put it down to a matter of incivility.
I realize your intentions are not malicious. But the reality is that a former Secretary of State made foreign interference in elections a center piece of her campaign. While the news media has focused attention on the FBI monitoring internet traffic for elections interference, scraping internet traffic is within the purview of NSA. And the alphabet agencies do not need a warrant since you are outside the US and not a citizen. A FISA warrant would allow monitoring anyone that communicates with you.
I'm not accusing you of anything. The plain facts are that you are a non-citizen individual residing outside the US (a foreign agent) engaged in discussion and expressing opinion about the Presidential election on social media. (Yes, Newstalkers is a social media forum.) The fearmongers leading the political parties (one party in particular) have made you a target to be watched for political purposes.
Okay, then if I am a "foreign agent" interfering with your election, then come and arrest me and the others on this site who are foreigners and have commented on it. However, what I do not yet see is an apology for accusing me of LECTURING YOU.
if I am a "foreign agent" interfering with your election, then come and arrest me
You're not interfering with anything Buzz, your opinion is always welcome. What some conservatives are trying to do is equate you, a non-American citizen who hasn't presented himself as anything other than that, with foreign adversaries pretending to be domestic individuals or groups on social media pushing false narratives to support one candidate or another like the Russians have done in several elections now in support of their desired puppet leader Donald Trump.
Of course, the false equivalency isn't being believed by any but the most gullible and most ignorant, so pretty much only by Trump supporters. Those folk only want deceptive foreign adversaries pretending to be American voters pushing lies on social media if they are doing it in favor of their Dear Leader. As a Republican led senate investigation found that the "Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers". And Trump supporters aren't much different, they also are "eager to exploit the Kremlin's aid" because it is in their Dear Leaders interest. You're only being falsely accused of being a "foreign agent" by some of them because you aren't actively supporting their Dear Leader.
The only way Lichtman could miss all the reporting about Trump is to hide away in an academic office and stick his head up his ass.
or, the voting public, could only watch and believe far right news and accept faux facts as alternate reality some say, the kelly ann con-way.
cause ive spoken with many who still believe trump hasn't done ANY thing wrong, and that is just SO
wrong.
the media has made what would have wiped off the face of the earthj, any other candidate, ho hum, no bid deal, just the art of that guy again, and his deal ings behind closed doors paying off leaders and whores, cause he has and still does, thinks deceitful actions are all the buzz
explaining how he's gonna be a dicktater, but, only on day one...?
he's gonna pursue any and all that had the gaul, to out and call, out he for being a disgrace to the presidency, and replace all fed up with he, all a federal employee, cause they must agree with him, or be be shown the curb, their enthusiasm about a 2025 plan to takeovr andcontrol this land, was my land, this land was your land, and it may become the underhandeds' land, F trump is again elected by the infected!
The media has dramatically FAiled US, as has our education systems and an ability to take responsibility for our own actions, as far too many wish to buy into Trumps'n 'it's not your fault', its the immigrants, its people with more pigment, its the poor thjis, that and the other thing,
now just kiss the ass of the one given the pass , cause it's too dirty, that ring thing....
or, the voting public, could only watch and believe far right news and accept faux facts as alternate reality some say, the kelly ann con-way.cause ive spoken with many who still believe trump hasn't done ANY thing wrong, and that is just SO wrong.
It's been eight fucking years. What new revelation is going to change people's minds now?
the media has made what would have wiped off the face of the earthj, any other candidate, ho hum, no bid deal, just the art of that guy again, and his deal ings behind closed doors paying off leaders and whores, cause he has and still does, thinks deceitful actions are all the buzz explaining how he's gonna be a dicktater, but, only on day one...?
The media has been repeating the same stories for eight years. It's not newsworthy any more. There's no way to make the next revelation fresh, new, and interesting. It's not that the press hasn't be reporting everything. It's that Democrats have become so jaded that they're outrage weary. Beating the dead horse won't move it down the rode.
he's gonna pursue any and all that had the gaul, to out and call, out he for being a disgrace to the presidency, and replace all fed up with he, all a federal employee, cause they must agree with him, or be be shown the curb, their enthusiasm about a 2025 plan to takeovr andcontrol this land, was my land, this land was your land, and it may become the underhandeds' land, F trump is again elected by the infected!
That's what we've been told for eight years. But Biden was supposed to be the anti-Trump who would show how the world should work. Are you really better off today after Biden 'fixed' things? Screaming at the sky about Trump won't make Biden's policies work better. And scapegoating Trump won't avoid the reality that Biden has created.
The media has dramatically FAiled US, as has our education systems and an ability to take responsibility for our own actions, as far too many wish to buy into Trumps'n 'it's not your fault', its the immigrants, its people with more pigment, its the poor thjis, that and the other thing,
How? The litany of all the bad qualities of Trump have been reported by the media. For eight long years. Reporting on Trump has become so commonplace that it doesn't attract attention any longer.
Right now the media is focusing attention on Harris. What has Harris been doing? Reporting on Trump the same way news anchors, reporters, opinion writers, and pundits have been doing for eight years. Harris is just repeating what has been in the news for eight years. Hillary Clinton could get away with that because it was new news and got attention. But it's not working for Harris because it's not new, it's not interesting, and it's not going to attract attention.
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The reason I posted this is because throughout this interview, Lichtman stated clearly how the press has normalized Trump and failed to properly inform the public.
in their defense, the media would spend twice as much time refuting trump lies as covering the story. they should just adopt a standardized flashing bullshit icon and buzzer whenever the orange menace opens his mouth ...
this is going to be another election that proves traditional polling is irreparably skewed and worthless ...
At this point, the polling is meaningless. All that we can glean is that we do not know who will win. Not helpful.
If one of the candidates wins in a landslide then that would indicate that polling is indeed worthless.
However, if this winds up being a close election then that only means that polling lacks the precision to indicate the winner when the race is close.
even if it isn't a landslide, trump and his maga sycophants will throw every wrench in the toolbox into the constitutional gears to get the election in front of SCOTUS ...
Maybe the press has FINALLY realized the perils of a biased press and is trying to turn back the clock about three quarters of a century when the press competed for the coveted Award given to the least biased medium (usually won by The Christian Science Monitor back then), an award that would be a hilarious joke today.
I suspect the press is being overly cautious to not be seen as biased. The problem is that Trump is so far over-the-top that they have to really bite their tongues to avoid the biased allegation. And it does not matter, they are criticized for bias anyway.
Ironic, isn't it? I wonder why they're being "overly cautious"? Trump is a threat to Democracy after all...
And suddenly that matters?....
Do you have a point?
It reminds of the old Truman line - “I don’t give them hell. I just tell the truth about them, and they think it’s hell.”
Now when you tell the truth about Trump they say he is being mistreated.
That has been going on for years now.
I have a few, fortunately my head isn't one of them. Do you have any opinions on my questions?
I'll be very satisfied when trump achieves the pinnacle of victimhood ...
Lichtman is a hack who changes his standards from election to election and misrepresents his record. Nate Silver defenestrated him.
I made it crystal clear that I seeded this because of Lichtman's criticism of the media.
And you are dead wrong about Lichtman changing his standards; his keys have remained constant. Nate Silver is dealing with many more degrees of freedom in his statistical work than Lichtman so your criticism of Lichtman vs Silver is laughable. In other words, it is far easier to play games of interpretation with Silver's method than Licthman's.
Finally, in a close election, statistical analysis is largely meaningless. The precision of polls in a close election like we have now is insufficient to yield much predictive information.
But, again, the point of this seed is Lichtman's spot-on criticism of the media.
Corporate media doesnt care who wins, or who is the president. Harris has taken as much or more criticism as Trump has from the media, which should be considered absurd on the face of it. But the media doesnt care.
Now we have the worse trend of media bowing before Trump , like the LA Times and Washington Post. If Trump wins expect this trend to grow considerably.
The media has failed miserably. If you cant conclusively point out the flaws in the worst person to ever run for president, when ever will you be able to?
Harris has taken as much or more criticism as Trump has from the media,
this is literal crazy talk.
Nate Silver is dealing with many more degrees of freedom in his statistical work than Lichtman so your criticism of Lichtman vs Silver is laughable. In other words, it is far easier to play games of interpretation with Silver's method than Licthma
This is literal crazy talk,
My point was that Silver has many more degrees of freedom to deal with and thus in a close election his subtle interpretations across those degrees make his predictions unreliable.
Lichtman, in contrast, has a macro system with specific rules. Less potential for interpretation (and thus interpretation errors).
And I am not stating that Lichtman's system is any better (or worse) than Silver's. I am countering your claim that Silver's is necessarily better.
Did you not understand what I wrote or are you ignoring it?
your blinders must wrap around your head
Harris has to prove everything to the media, Trump has to prove nothing.
Harris gets overwhelmingly favorable coverage. Trump gets overwhelmingly negative.
That's an easily verifiable fact.
The idea that the media is going easy on Trump just can't be supported, at all. It's truly bizarre, the harder the media works for Harris, the madder progressives seem to get.
this is normal stuff on legacy media. It won't even be a story despite how batshit crazy it is:
Whoopi claims Trump is going to break up interracial marriages and redistribute the white spouses: "He's going to deport and you put the white guy with someone else" "The man is out there!" she declares.
our blinders must wrap around your head
Interesting.
hmm..
That is only somewhat true on CBS, NBC & ABC. On Fox News and other rightwing media outlets, especially online and on "X", Trump gets overwhelmingly favorable coverage. And the big difference is that rightwing media doesn't hold back at all in vilifying Harris and praising Trump while CBS, NBC & ABC often give Trump a pass even when faced with his many bald-faced lies and treat him as a normal candidate when he is anything but.
What will your comment be if it turns out next week that yet again his prediction was right?
Cheers to Licthman being correct once again!
I hope so.
But I encourage you to pay attention to his criticism of the media. I think he is spot on.
I can't watch it at work, but I'll check it out during my lunch break.
trump's bullshit rhetoric is a mind altering drug of which the media has developed a tolerance.
So, no one is listening to Kamala Harris? Allan Lichtman is lying his ass off. The press really has covered everything Lichtman is complaining about. Kamala Harris has made all those Trump issues the centerpiece of her interviews, stump speeches, campaign rallies, and advertising.
The voting public knows much, much, much, much, much more about Donald Trump than they do about Kamala Harris. The public has been treated to public Congressional hearings, courtroom proceedings, prosecutor opinions, Presidential denunciations and warnings, published opinions by current and former government officials, public disclosure of recorded interviews and private discussions, and a whole range of reported comments by politicians, bureaucrats, world leaders, and celebrities.
Allan Lichtman conveniently ignores the gorilla sitting in the corner. Harris has had multiple opportunities to inform the public. And Harris has chosen to talk about all the issue that Allan Lichtman highlights. Apparently Lichtman isn't even paying attention to what Kamala Harris has been saying to the public through the press.
Allan Lichtman trying to claim the public is uninformed stretches disbelief into a bizarre caricature of intellectualism. Lichtman is either trapped inside a bubble or he is deliberating spreading misinformation. Everything Lichtman cites has been covered by broadcast news, print news, pundits, infotainment sources, social media influencers, and public statements by current and former government officials. The only way Lichtman could miss all the reporting about Trump is to hide away in an academic office and stick his head up his ass.
That's probably true, but the problem is that the voting public needs to understand the depth of what they know, not just the surface.
Why do you think voters don't understand the depth of what they know?
Well, nothing special Nerm, but maybe I think that way because about half the voters in America want a convicted criminal pussy-grabbing liar to be their leader instead of a person who was a law-abiding prosecutor and now is the current VP.
You do realize that's an eight year old public disclosure. Since then there have been special counsel investigations, impeachments, Congressional committee hearings, disclosures by past and current public officials, courtroom proceedings, and non-stop press coverage of everything Trump.
The public knows much, much, much, much more about Trump than they do about Kamala Harris' involvement in pushing Joe Biden to forego reelection. The voters chose Trump. The voters did not choose Kamala Harris; voters chose Biden.
Harris got on the ballot the same way strongmen overthrow governments. How do voters know that Harris won't be like Maduro?
Nerm, not being an American I can't vote, but even if I could I wouldn't vote for either one of them. The only person I would vote for would be Liz Cheney, if she were running. The only American who when I heard her speak, that had she run for PotUS I would have moved to Texas to campaign for her because I was so impressed with her, was Anne Richards.
Well, I am an American and am stuck with this shit. So, don't lecture me about who to vote for from the safety of an adversary who doesn't care about the interests of the United States. Like it or not, you really are in the position of being a foreign agent attempting to influence the election. Bluntly stated, you represent more noise that must be ignored.
From my vantage point, Kamala Harris cannot be allowed the authority of the Presidency. She is too dangerous. The only candidate I can vote for that has a chance of preventing Kamala Harris assuming power over the country is Donald Trump. Trump's record as President informs me that he is not as dangerous as Harris.
Biden's political agenda has been contradictory and self defeating. Harris following Biden's policies would be a disaster. And Harris appears to be advocating to push the country even further in the wrong direction. Opening the country to non-European immigration while governing in a Eurocentric manner is a recipe for internal unrest and conflict. The country is being flooded by immigrants from Central and South America and Biden has been completely ignoring Central and South America. How the hell is that supposed to work? The Biden administration cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. Biden has set up the country for failure. Kamala Harris trying to be more Biden than Biden would be a disaster.
The United States has to decide what is most important. We can't do both. Sitting on the fence only pushed the barbed wire up the crack of our asses and will ultimately divide us. The situation has advanced too for pandering platitudes. We either get tough on immigration or we turn our backs on Europe. We're running out of wiggle room. And immigration is only one, small problem the United States is going to have to confront. Biden has been wishy washy on a number of issues. Biden has refused to negotiate while refusing to choose a clear path forward. Kamala Harris is going to do the same thing. Biden and Harris are the types of politicians who want to be loved as dear leaders more than they want to lead. Trump ain't saddled with that baggage; everybody hates Trump so the only thing he can do is govern.
And because it's eight years old his words shouldn't matter? Conservatives were bringing up Bill Clintons affairs from 30 years back as recently as 2016 when his wife was running for President, but you think eight years is just water under the bridge for a candidate who basically admitted to sexual assault on camera? Talk about a double standard.
Oh, I see, so the pussy grabbing comments should be considered irrelevant because Trump has done so many much worse things since? It's just amazing to watch Trump supporters twist and contort logic all in an effort to defend the indefensible and kneel before their greasy gold-painted cow God.
Harris's cult says her statements while running for the current Presidential term don't matter.
Look at this shameless projection. To normalize the cultish behavior of Trump supporters we see this ridiculous projection that Harris supporters are a cult.
So, Harris's comments supporting things like Medicare for all in the past and her current position of just trying to build on the ACA which is a politician changing their position on a specific policy is the same as Trump saying several years ago that he likes to sexually assault women he finds attractive and since then has never walked those comments back, he just ignored them and his supporters called them "locker room talk". Those are equivalent statements? So, if an old video of Trump admitting he likes raping kids shows up, should that not matter to anyone anymore if he made the statement a few years ago? Should we just consider that the same as a politician changing their position on a policy and assume he just no longer wants to rape kids?
There is absolutely NO WAY you can point out where I LECTURED you. And I am speaking as a Canadian who lived most of my life an hour to an hour and a half's drive from the USA, and who from the time I was an INFANT travelled with my mother to Baltimore and since that time spent a hell of a lot of time in and throughout the USA and even for a time owned with my brother a golf condo in Florida and spent vacations there and "From California to the New York island, From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters" a la Woodie Guthrie a damned big part of my life. All I did was post what I would do, and not one fucking word about what YOU should do.
Your comment falsely accusing me in its second sentence was where I stopped reading the comment, which I would continue reading only when I see an apology, and I don't give a shit if there is none - I'll simply put it down to a matter of incivility.
I realize your intentions are not malicious. But the reality is that a former Secretary of State made foreign interference in elections a center piece of her campaign. While the news media has focused attention on the FBI monitoring internet traffic for elections interference, scraping internet traffic is within the purview of NSA. And the alphabet agencies do not need a warrant since you are outside the US and not a citizen. A FISA warrant would allow monitoring anyone that communicates with you.
I'm not accusing you of anything. The plain facts are that you are a non-citizen individual residing outside the US (a foreign agent) engaged in discussion and expressing opinion about the Presidential election on social media. (Yes, Newstalkers is a social media forum.) The fearmongers leading the political parties (one party in particular) have made you a target to be watched for political purposes.
Okay, then if I am a "foreign agent" interfering with your election, then come and arrest me and the others on this site who are foreigners and have commented on it. However, what I do not yet see is an apology for accusing me of LECTURING YOU.
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You're not interfering with anything Buzz, your opinion is always welcome. What some conservatives are trying to do is equate you, a non-American citizen who hasn't presented himself as anything other than that, with foreign adversaries pretending to be domestic individuals or groups on social media pushing false narratives to support one candidate or another like the Russians have done in several elections now in support of their desired puppet leader Donald Trump.
Of course, the false equivalency isn't being believed by any but the most gullible and most ignorant, so pretty much only by Trump supporters. Those folk only want deceptive foreign adversaries pretending to be American voters pushing lies on social media if they are doing it in favor of their Dear Leader. As a Republican led senate investigation found that the "Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers". And Trump supporters aren't much different, they also are "eager to exploit the Kremlin's aid" because it is in their Dear Leaders interest. You're only being falsely accused of being a "foreign agent" by some of them because you aren't actively supporting their Dear Leader.
Thank you, DP.
putin is already committing election interference for his comrade, agent orange ...
the "but, but, she did it too" response ...
or, the voting public, could only watch and believe far right news and accept faux facts as alternate reality some say, the kelly ann con-way.
cause ive spoken with many who still believe trump hasn't done ANY thing wrong, and that is just SO
wrong.
the media has made what would have wiped off the face of the earthj, any other candidate, ho hum, no bid deal, just the art of that guy again, and his deal ings behind closed doors paying off leaders and whores, cause he has and still does, thinks deceitful actions are all the buzz
explaining how he's gonna be a dicktater, but, only on day one...?
he's gonna pursue any and all that had the gaul, to out and call, out he for being a disgrace to the presidency, and replace all fed up with he, all a federal employee, cause they must agree with him, or be be shown the curb, their enthusiasm about a 2025 plan to takeovr andcontrol this land, was my land, this land was your land, and it may become the underhandeds' land, F trump is again elected by the infected!
The media has dramatically FAiled US, as has our education systems and an ability to take responsibility for our own actions, as far too many wish to buy into Trumps'n 'it's not your fault', its the immigrants, its people with more pigment, its the poor thjis, that and the other thing,
now just kiss the ass of the one given the pass , cause it's too dirty, that ring thing....
It's been eight fucking years. What new revelation is going to change people's minds now?
The media has been repeating the same stories for eight years. It's not newsworthy any more. There's no way to make the next revelation fresh, new, and interesting. It's not that the press hasn't be reporting everything. It's that Democrats have become so jaded that they're outrage weary. Beating the dead horse won't move it down the rode.
That's what we've been told for eight years. But Biden was supposed to be the anti-Trump who would show how the world should work. Are you really better off today after Biden 'fixed' things? Screaming at the sky about Trump won't make Biden's policies work better. And scapegoating Trump won't avoid the reality that Biden has created.
How? The litany of all the bad qualities of Trump have been reported by the media. For eight long years. Reporting on Trump has become so commonplace that it doesn't attract attention any longer.
Right now the media is focusing attention on Harris. What has Harris been doing? Reporting on Trump the same way news anchors, reporters, opinion writers, and pundits have been doing for eight years. Harris is just repeating what has been in the news for eight years. Hillary Clinton could get away with that because it was new news and got attention. But it's not working for Harris because it's not new, it's not interesting, and it's not going to attract attention.
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Not in my case.
getting de-reptilized ...
kamala in a landslide, with every media outlet and poll wondering how it happened, again ...