'He's a thug,' Trump says of Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner
The level of projection ... the irony ... the gall, just incredible.
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Dumb. They’re Democrats. They have the worst policy of anybody. I watched that thug that’s up in Maine. He’s a thug, and they’re trying to make excuses for him.
I mean, he’s worse than any human being that’s ever run for office, probably. I don’t know him. I don’t want to say bad, but I, I just look. I mean, nobody’s ever had a record like that.
And you’ll have Schumer. He goes crazy over this or that or Epstein. Epstein, Epstein. This guy, why are they talking about him? He said, “Well, we don’t know.”
But this guy’s got a rupture. I’ve never seen anything like it. He’s a thug. I know thugs. I had to deal with thugs. I built a lot of buildings. I dealt with the toughest people on Earth. I dealt with worse than thugs.
This guy’s a thug. He’s a low-level thug, and he’s running for, to be a senator, to work with Eric Schmitt. Great, Eric will handle him. I think it’s not. To be with Barrasso, too. Who the hell do we have to do with Rand? Would be very interesting with it. Redd would figure it out. It’ll put them away.
But, but this is a thug. He’s a cheap, no-good person. And I watched these senators of the Democrats, and, “Well, we don’t really know.” You do know. He’s as bad. I’ve never seen a person like that run for office.
And the guy from Texas, different, but he’s terrible too. He’s, he’s a radical-left communist.
But I watched this guy this morning, and he was so bad. He was so bad. He’s a bad guy, you know, just a bad guy. He must be laughing up his sleeve when he looks at these idiots going, like Schumer, “Well, he’s OK. He’s OK.” He’s not OK.
Can you imagine the Republicans had him? If we had him, John, so wouldn’t let that. I think, I really believe it. If it, if it meant losing the Senate, you would not let that happen.
That’s just a terrible thing. I mean, I watch it happening. It’s unfolding. It’s, it’s really history because there’s never been a guy like that that’s ever run for office, and at any level. I don’t think at any level.
And the excuses they come up. Every day, somebody comes forward with really proven stuff. Even his business, you know, he’s a, he’s not a businessman at all. His parents supported him. The guy is a loser.
Other than that, he might be a very nice.
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Ever listen to the feeble excuses people make for you?
How you can say that with a straight face is truly awesome.
As bad as Platner is, he cannot hold a candle to you. You, Trump, are the G.O.A.T. politician in terms of corruption, immorality, incompetence, irresponsibility, vindictiveness, lawlessness and psychopathy. Remember, Mr. "grab 'em by the pussy", you are a convicted sex-offender felon and you are the only PotUS in the history of our nation who tried to steal a US presidential election with fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. You are a traitor. That 'Trumps' Platner by far.
Just look in the mirror, moron.
Never labeled you a thug, Trump, but it fits.
Yeah, so imagine the views of rational minds knowing that an even lower-level thug is the sitting PotUS.
Trump, you are an abysmal human being. You have no moral standing to criticize the character of anyone else.
All you have to do is watch one of your televised campaign speeches and you will see a person much worse than even Platner running for office.
Rational minds are stuck watching you almost daily. And it is not funny when we see people trying to defend you. It is tragic because you are the PotUS.
Easily. They have someone far worse as PotUS. So we know how the Rs would handle a traitor, felon, buffoon, con-man, etc. They form a cult of personality.
So now you have a tiny taste of what rational minds are dealing with being stuck with you as PotUS.
Yet again, the irony here is staggering. Look in the mirror, moron.
Got to hand it to you, Trump, you can project like no one else. You can lie with a straight face, criticizing someone else who is bad but a mere sliver of the bad you embody.
There are Democrats who want their people to reject Platner on the theory that we have to be better than them (MAGA).
When in the past ten to fifteen years has that worked?
Trumps comments is like Jack The Ripper calling a pickpocket the worst criminal that ever lived. Truly absurd.
Democrats need to stop trying to reform MAGAs and concentrate on beating them out of existence.
Good analogy.
The phrase: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend.' --First get rid of the old(est) problem and then 'engage' any new problems that rise: "Baby steps." Of course, the 'loudest mouth on the rooftop' has entered this 'theater' so it is about to get. . . 'loud' around Platner. . . real loud(er)! If he thought he was fighting to get elected before. . . .
The supporters of the deviant who called "The Jews Will Not Replace Us" neo-Nazis "some very fine people" try to pretend they're not extremists.
Clearly, we see it already.
Did he learn a new word the other day? Thug? Does he know the definition? Because it applies to him as well
Watch the Rationalizations for supporting a guy a who voluntarily inked himself with an SS tattoo instead of the most moderate member of the senate fly….
and these people will tell you they aren’t extremists.
I disapprove of Platner. But I am not a Maine voter. Further, I can intellectually appreciate people holding their noses and voting for another D vote in the Senate. They should have done a better job during the primary, but now they have a power balance issue.
Do you watch the rationalizations for Trump? Does it not disgust you observing the extreme level of absurdity some will stoop to in an attempt to defend the indefensible words and deeds of Trump?
What a silly question.
Exactly.
Because we all know the real answer
Is he fit to be a US Senator?
But not those who disapprove of Trump but want a President who isn't a Democrat? No intellectual appreciation there?
No, we should have higher standards for politicians ... especially at the higher levels.
I appreciate that, Sean, but it must be weighed against the character and history of the individual. In Trump's case, he is such an abysmal human being that nobody should even consider the irresponsible, irrational, incompetent, vindictive, lawless, corrupt psychopath for any office much less the presidency.
Is Trump fit to be PotUS?
Trump supporters are One-Way. They are not allowed to free-think, because Trump will chase-catch them and ruin them politically, socially, financially, and mentally—and maybe spiritually if they can't withstand the onslaughts!
Do you actually believe there are Maine Democratic voters who are supporting and voting for Platner because they think he's a Nazi? Do you really expect anyone to believe conservatives are being honest and not completely full of shit when they call Platner a Nazi? Do you really expect any person with more than half a brain to believe they truly, in their heart of hearts, think the neo-Nazi's and Nazi sympathizers in this country are supporting Democratic candidates and voting for Kamala and supporting affirmative action and DEI programs? That the white rightwing (Historians and political scientists overwhelmingly classify Nazism as a far-right ideology) Americans would gravitate to the Democratic party over the last two decades? If you do believe this, please explain why that makes any sense at all.
Do you actually believe there are Maine Democratic voters who are supporting and voting for Platner because they think he's a Nazi
He spreads anti semetic conspiracies and sported an SS tattoo. Sure doesn’t seem to bother you or many other democrats. In fact, given the success of the Al queda volunteer and the squad in general with democrats, the SS symbol probably helps. That’s the aspect of Nazim that seems most popular.
And Trump is a demonstrable racist, womanizer, convicted sex-offending felon, and vindictive psychopath.
Do you recognize that too or do you only criticize Ds? (Another silly question.)
Given Platner's myriad of problems, the whole "I joined the army because I wanted to kill people" line isn't getting more attention. Funny.
but he's your psychopath so.....
Do you recognize that too or do you only criticize Ds? (Another silly question.)
I've criticized Trump in harsher terms and more frequently than you ever have the Democrats. But somehow you seem to think I'm the partisan one. It's interesting.
I have apparently missed every single time you have done this. Gee, what are the odds?
You continue not to recognize that my positions and my posts have been anti-Trump. Not anti-R or anti-D (although I am disgusted with both parties). You, as a partisan typically does, interpret my criticism of Trump as being pro-D. Partisans cannot seem to believe that someone could criticize a politician and NOT be a member of the opposing party.
I was fully supporting Haley and would have voted for her over Biden. I would have voted for most of the R candidates over Biden (Vivek being the notable exception). Before Haley, I was rooting for Sununu. I made my positions quite clear here in my posts. Your position is, in a word, bullshit.
Now, that said, it remains true that you are trying to defend Trump using the 'but Platner is just as bad' tactic. In reality, as bad as Platner is, he does not hold a candle to the G.O.A.T. abysmal character of Trump. Trump is so outrageous, any rational mind should criticize the irresponsible, irrational, incompetent, vindictive, lawless, corrupt psychopath before even thinking of criticizing a lesser bad actor.
But you are here without a single word of criticism for Trump, focusing all your criticism on Platner. And you think nobody notices??
Yet you refuse to answer the question I posed @2.1.5:
Sorry, still laughing. Do you honestly believe that you're not a partisan?
What exactly do you believe the word 'partisan' to mean if you do not believe you are partisan? I mean, you could just post the Icon of every single Trump supporter here in the dictionary under 'Partisan" it's that obvious. Rightwing conservatives are the very personification of 'firmly adhering to a party, faction cause or person'. Trump demands blind loyalty from his sycophants, and it is beyond obvious he has it here in abundance.
You should stick to emojois..
o you believe the word 'partisan' to mean if you do not believe you are partisan
It's called a comparison. TIG is much more partisan than I am.
mean, you could just post the Icon of every single Trump supporter here in the dictionary under 'Partisan" it's that obvious. Rightwing conservatives are the very personification of 'firmly adhering to a party, faction cause or person'. Trump demands blind loyalty from his sycophants, and it is beyond obvious he has it here in abundance.
The irony is here off the charts. People who were just in hysterics and claiming that being married to someone who flew a flag flown by George Washington is disqualifying are now defending a guy with a Nazi tattoo.
A literal NAZI tattoo (an SS one to boot) ..
Do you realize how absolutely ridiculous progressives look like? No principles other than whatever helps the party.
And yet, somehow, progressives complain about Trump's character. Such an amazing self own.
I've answered it for 10 plus years. Trump does not have the character to be President. IT's why I've never voted for him.
Of course, to the progressives shills who reside in the fever swamp, I'm MAGA because I don't parrot lies and conspiracies under their operative theory that the truth, laws and norms don't matter when attacking or trying to destroy Trump.
Wow. That's rich (not)!
Noted. Then why is it that you rarely criticize what this psychopath is doing and instead deflect (almost every time) to criticize Ds, progressives, liberals, etc.? They are not in charge. It is Trump who is right now inflicting unnecessary damage on this nation and its people.
Criticizing those out of power does nothing but help support the tyrant. If people like you were to criticize the administration that is currently causing harm, that would (collectively) put more pressure on Congress to stop enabling this incompetent, vindictive, unpresidential nutcase.
Sean on if Trump is fit to be PotUS: "Trump does not have the character to be President. "
Is he wrong, Trump defenders?
Can anyone believe anything Trump says on the face of it? We all know the answer is no. Pretending this is not an immense crisis for the country, in itself, is the height of irresponsibility. It destroys the fabric of our society.
That would have been a fine argument to make when the President committed literal, indictable perjury in office....
Instead we got "character doesn't matter. the stock market is up!"
The answer is NO. It is NO 15 or 20 times A DAY.
Your pretense that this is a minor inconvenience is pathetic.
It's not. But perjury isn't a "minor inconvenience" either. It's 1000 times more damaging to our system than Trump's braggadocio.
The acceptance of Presidential perjury destroyed the norm or expectation of Presidential honesty. No coincidence that Joe Biden's national political career was restarted after lying became the new norm. If lying under oath doesn't matter, lying doesn't matter.
what 'perjury' are you talking about?
While I'm not voting for or supporting Platner, I happen to understand that there's a big difference between surface and substance. Apparently, Maine Democrats are looking past the surface and listening to what Platner says and does and they like what they see. I myself have seen only what the media has shown me and what I've seen so far doesn't excite me, but it isn't all that horrifying either. If we're all supposed to take the accused pedophile at his word, shouldn't we at least judge Platner's actions and not just assume he's lying when he said he thought it was a cool skull tattoo but didn't know it was a Nazi symbol? Personally, I likely still would have chosen a different candidate if I was voting in that primary since I know how much hay will be made of it, but I don't live in Maine so it's not up to me. But I can certainly understand Mainers desire for independence and not listening even to their own party that was cautioning against choosing him. Mainers are saying "Fuck You!" to MAGA, they're saying "Fuck You!" to Trump, and they're even saying, "Fuck You!" to the Democrat party leadership. I applaud their courage.
Oh, please tell us! I really want to know what the tireless defenders of a convicted felon and accused pedophile thinks about how others "look". /s
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Desperately trying to claim that one military vet's skull tattoo, in regard to character, is WORSE than what we KNOW about Donald Trump is the very definition of a 'self-own'. It's just downright embarrassing.
And for the record, for ten years we have been telling NT and a bunch of fools what was going to become of our national politics and by expansion our nation if we do not hold the line on a standard. Seedy people come crawling up through the 'woodwork' and oozing through the floorboards, out of the 'voids' - why? Because they feel if this or that sh-t can stand. . . they should be able to make a play too! We warned these hard-headed, unrepentant basta—s about it for years! And now it is happening in real-time. And all of a sudden, basta—s think they can hop on the side of 'right' and be all high-and-mighty. Actually, they know they are fool of bullsh-t - no scratch that. . .bulls have not done this. . . persistent, stupid, hardballers have stirred the bottom and dredged this up; and more to the point. . . it is likely to get worse. . . human dogs and rats want their turn to run the country now and they will claim to have a 'right to do so too!
When one dredges the bottom of the political waters, no-one should be (although there are some people down there long since forgotten) 'surprised' by what floats upward: Dirty politicians that thought they would never be 'revived,' filthy republicans, nasty democrats, funky libertarians, die-hard Dixiecrats, violent types, stark criminals in their elements, all wanting in now that the 'gate' is loosely hanging off its hinges, and the guards are removed! We warned 'them,' whosoever they are, not to do this. . . and they did it anyway.
If success if defined by who has the power to kick whomsoever in the teeth. . . then get ready. . . because there are some types that kick damn hard and they are getting out of 'prisons' (surfacing) and ain't nobody (much) qualified to tell them they can't compete when the old-ways are back!
And there it is! This is the first level of political attack on Platner. . . it is that Platner is an 'offense' to Jews (and thus, liberal Jews should not vote for him) and just go with 'wobbling' Collins and her 'trembling' republican understanding of today's world.
Voting for the most moderate member of the Senate over a racist psycho with an SS tattoo is an easy choice for those of us who aren't rigidly attached to the progressive movement.
Party over country every time from the progressives though.
You can say whatsoever you wish. As I don't have a choice on Platner. I will say this (as Mainers did in their state election). . . Trump and his sanctimonious followers just proved why they are political trash, noise, and "a bother." The enemy of my enemy is my friend" - The Arthashastra.
So you can call Mainers whatever you wish to your heart's contentment. . . it will roll off, shake off, fall off, leap off, fly off, bounce off, flow off, skip off, run off, - get it already?
Platner would be wise to 'hunker down' and run the campaign of his life on the facts of Maine—in Maine. That is what will defeat 'wobbling' Collins (and that is about her vote choices not her physical presence), not some MAGA supporting bullsh-t political rhetoric.
But you already indicated why D voters likely are holding their noses. Having a D senator in a flip helps change the balance of power. For people looking at the big picture, Platner is better than Collins given the Trump problem.
If Congress were not so divisive and partisan, this kind of big-picture nonsense would not be necessary.
I personally vote mostly on character, competence, and vision ... even in situations like this because I think long term and hold that the electorate should ALWAYS demand character. But I do understand the partisan tactical thinking that might be at play in Maine.
But when all is said and done, Platner does not even begin to compare with Trump’s depravity. The GOPTRUMP’s behavior toward Trump therefore remains, by far, the prime example of shortsighted, disgusting, and irrational sycophancy.
Yes. we get it. You'll justify supporting a guy with an SS tattoo over an actual moderate. Because progressives uber alles, right?
The Democrats did not "hold their noses." They actively chose him over a run of the mill progressive who has the advantage of not having a Nazi tattoo, is not a pathological liar who mistreats women and has no record of hanging out on websites designed for child predators. .
Since Mills would have a had a better chance of wining, and would provide the exact same progressive vote in the Senate, the question is why did the Democrats choose Platner? Was it the antisemitism personified by the nazi tattoo or the lying and misogyny that appealed to Democrats over your typical progressive?
78 is a tad old to become a first term senator.
Then why would they go with someone like Platner?
This is similar to my question regarding the 2024 GOP primary. Given all the GOP candidates available, what lunacy got into the GOP to make Trump their nominee?
In Platner's case, he somehow got momentum before the most damaging details of his past reached the voters. And, as we have seen, there are too many people who form an unrealistic belief about a candidate and will never change once that belief is formed.
Very similar to what we see (and saw) with Trump.
I do not understand people who think this way so I do not have an answer. But the phenomena I allude to appears to be quite real.
Same lunacy that got into them in 2016. Trump has NEVER been fit to hold office. He has capitalized on white grievance.
That is not a satisfying answer for me. I can clearly see white grievance operating among some Trump supporters (see it clearly in some folks), and it likely is a key part of his support, but it is an incomplete explanation.
Trump also gained substantial support among Latino, Black, and Asian voters. Just amazing that so many narrow their judgment to one or two grievances while discounting Trump’s character, conduct, incompetence, irrationality, lawlessness, vindictiveness, psychopathy, unpresidential demeanor, and threat to our constitutional Republic.
That kind of irrational tunnel vision is dangerous for our nation. And the fact that even now they cannot break free and see reality is very troubling.
Reinforces the point that the kind of people we would like to see run for office want no part of it.
Somebody obviously has time to waste on this. I am not a Trump supporter. . . and lucky for me. . . I do not have to have an opinion about every 'thing' that somebody running for office in other states do. Also, I wasn't born close to yesterday either.
"Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder." - Margaret Wolfe Hungerford -1878 (Credit: Alexa.) You all prefer 'any' old, tired, oppressive republican/conservative to put their foot/feet on Others in this country. I can't agree with you on that and so. . . Trump is 'beautiful' to y'all!
Somebody, thinks to have a 'right' to query the entire 'country' over what Maine does with its VOTE! Nobody owes a Trump supporter any explanation at all except Maine voters. . . and by the way, do pay close attention that somebody runs silent when it comes to sanctimonious support for the ONE-WAY president that is sh-t-canning and steamrolling over any and all republicans-taking each one out one by one when they 'pop-up' out of Trump 'special' alignment.
Now that is a disgrace the whole country is affected by, and yet "mr/ms" self-righteous got nothing to write or 'say' about that!
(Sometimes, one just has to get down on their figurative get dirty to speak plainly to jerks that want to play games with other people's heads!)
It's money. It machoism. It's familiar. There are people that can be persuaded (still) that republicans (that are not free-thinkers) are good because they talk that sh-t about greed and stepping on people as the 'only' way to make life functional. Conservatives have been messaging the same sh-t and oppressing this country's aspirational 'message' for yes - 250 years (intermingled with the last 50 years since 1965 - plus). It is why Trump is pushing the UFC at the White House. . . machoism "manly' men gounding and pounding and sweating as some sort of "we tough guys" and "we got you" so you don't have to worry. What they forget is this country ain't 'new' anymore. . . we have a past, a history, a record that can be followed and read. . . thus, we do not and will not fear each other again!
If it is hard-ball they want, insist on, respect. . . let them have hardball! If an arrogant group of SOBs is telling you and demonstrating s/he will be eating what's yours and mine while we 'spin and toil,' then we best get it through our heads that they mean it. The question is what are we doing letting them have a go at it. Kindly and firmly defend and put our foot down ourselves!
Right now - it is clear some people are too good for politics. You need political savvy 'dogs' to bite other political 'dogs.' Until balance is restored: The 'order of the day' - No more Mr. or Mrs. Nice Guy/Gals!
Graham platner publcly commented on a video of a us soldier who’d been shot in combat “I hope he dies”. No dispute he said that.
Back when democrats claimed to hate Nazis, they also got very mad about trump allegedly disrespecting us soldiers because of hearsay statements by anonymous sources they believe.
No outrage over platner’s death wishing a wounded soldier and no one is surprised.
This is incredible. You bring up a relatively obscure allegation (not suggesting it is not true) and pretend that this even remotely compares with those of Trump.
Apparently you are trying to defend Trump with the 'others are just as bad' tactic.
Platner is a bad candidate and not the type of person who should hold high office like a Senator. But he is nowhere near the level of depravity of Trump.
So unless you are willing to come clean and acknowledge that Trump is unfit and should never hold any public office, much less president, your 'just as bad' tactic is pathetic.
To wit, every criticism of Platner pales in comparison to Trump. So any conclusion you reach about Platner should apply even more strongly to Trump.
If Platner was a republican there wouldn't be all this hand wringing from the MAGA set. They know that their prez has mocked dead soldiers and that's just fine with them
Demonstrably true.
Given the GOPTRUMP has a sycophantic relationship with Trump, they have demonstrated in stark terms that they are okay with even the worst of the worst. Paxton in TX is another example of this sickness.
It is a shame that the Ds could not take this opportunity with Platner to distinguish themselves from the GOPTRUMP.
He said it. Why does the fact that progressive media doesn't fixate about like Trump's claims make it okay? Are you that easily led ?
But he is nowhere near the level of depravity of Trump.
How could you possibly, say that? He's been in the spotlight for a few months and look what's been uncovered.
very criticism of Platner pales in comparison to Trump.
Lol. Just a meaningless, unsupported contention you can't defend.
He intentionally marked himself with the symbol of a group that guarded concentration camps and you don't think compares to Trump???
Are you going to lie and claim Trump called neo-Nazis "very fine people" too to try and make that comparison?
Other than paying attention to what Trump has done compared to other PotUS?? Do I need to yet again post my list and my comparisons?
You are extrapolating at a ridiculous level if you think that the worst such as Platner, Paxton, etc. come anywhere close to the depravity of Trump.
That illustrates just how blind you are to what Trump has done.
And off you go to another ridiculous, nonsensical question.
Deal with what I wrote. I have made an argument. You are floundering.
they'd most likely be celebrating him ...
you should see who qualifies for the colorado GOP primary in the governor's race. a thumper Q-nut, a maga con man, and a teabag secessionist.
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Is Platner fit to be a US Senator?
Is Trump fit to be PotUS?
No to both,
Who is deflecting to trump to support a NAZI?
Good. You recognize that Trump is unfit to be PotUS.
So you get the message of this seed. Platner is unfit, and Trump, who is an order of magnitude worse, is attempting to criticize Platner.
So democrats are deflecting to trump to justify supporting a Nazi wife beater, I would point out the hypocrisy of using the person they claim is unfit for office to support someone unfit for office...but you would have to have some level of integrity to understand that.
Are they?
This seed is about Trump's bizarre alternate reality as he criticizes Platner when he is an order of magnitude worse than Platner.
Platner is a terrible candidate for Senator. Trump is a disaster for PotUS.
Is Platner fit to be a US Senator?
Is Trump fit to be PotUS?
Why are you deflecting to support a nazi?
Show me where I am supporting Platner.
Do not engage in trolling.