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What Really Happened to the Dinosaurs?

  
Via:  TᵢG  •  7 years ago  •  156 comments


What Really Happened to the Dinosaurs?
It is the Bible's history that explains dinosaurs.

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An intellectual mini lecture by the distinguished Ken Ham.

 

 

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This is a disturbing level of serial nonsense.   

I make no guarantee that you will retain your current IQ level if you watch this 4 minute video.

 

 

 



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TᵢG
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1  seeder  TᵢG    7 years ago

This guy is the CEO of Answers In Genesis — a substantial force for a successful, organized misinformation campaign to keep people holding to a literal interpretation of the Bible as divine truth.

Is this really what we want our next generation to think is the truth?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.3  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @1    7 years ago
Answers In Genesis — a substantial force for a successful, organized misinformation campaign to keep people holding to a literal interpretation of the Bible as divine truth.

The level of stupid is astounding. It's like they try to get people to completely disconnect from reality and rational thinking. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @1.3    7 years ago

Ham has been practicing this stupidity for decades and has a large organization behind him inventing new stupidity each week.    One can generate quite an ark load of stupidity with that amount of time and effort.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.3.2  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.1    7 years ago
Ham has been practicing this stupidity for decades and has a large organization behind him inventing new stupidity each week.    One can generate quite an ark load of stupidity with that amount of time and effort.

And people buy into the stupid and become stupid themselves. It's one of the greatest scams of all time.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
1.3.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Gordy327 @1.3.2    7 years ago

A fellow dentist took his kids to the Creation "Museum".  Most dental school enrollees have bachelor's degrees in either biology or chemistry, so they damned well should know better.  And yet this guy still thought that Ham's explanation of how we came to be was a "reasonable alternative."

When people who are educated in science hold fantasy to be as valuable as scientific fact, we have a problem.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.3.4  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.3.3    7 years ago

My long standing opinion is that intelligence does not protect an individual from being ensnared by religion.   

AiG has Ph.Ds on their payroll.   One ( Dr. Jeanson ) got his Ph. D. from Harvard  (as opposed to an online 'university') and by that fact alone is no dummy.   Yet he is a lifelong YEC:    

Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson holds a PhD in cell and developmental Biology from Harvard University. He serves as a research biologist, author, and speaker with Answers in Genesis and formerly conducted research with the Institute for Creation Research.

AiG also has geologists like Dr. Snelling who can show the Grand Canyon was formed by Noah's flood several thousand years ago:

Dr . Andrew Snelling holds a PhD in geology from the University of Sydney, Australia . He serves as Answers in Genesis’ Director of Research and is the Editor-in-Chief of the online Answers Research Journal .  Dr . Snelling is active in research and writes and also speaks on topics such as the Flood, fossils, and the Grand Canyon.

Oh, by the way, Dr. Snelling dismisses all geological hypotheses regarding the formation of the Grand Canyon.   His answer:  Noah's flood did it.


My net is this.   If someone really wants something to be true, there are plenty of ways to preserve that belief.  Confirmation bias being one of the best methods after indoctrination.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.4    7 years ago

I work with someone who has a Master's in geology and believes in the YEC theory.

They just close their minds and tell themselves "God did it! Amen!" and need never have another thought about it.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.3.6  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.1    7 years ago

Curios as to what the rational folk of the county think.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.3.7  Gordy327  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.3.3    7 years ago
And yet this guy still thought that Ham's explanation of how we came to be was a "reasonable alternative."

You mean a "reasonable alternative" like this :

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
1.3.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  Gordy327 @1.3.7    7 years ago

This guy liked Genie as an alternative.  But then, I guess most guys would ;D

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.3.9  cjcold  replied to  Gordy327 @1.3.2    7 years ago

Some of us believe our parents and some of us rebel. Some of us a little of both. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.3.11  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3.10    7 years ago

Per your claim, all other (non-literalist) Christians are irrational.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.3.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3.10    7 years ago
Literalist Bible believing Christians are the rational people in this country.  

Not even a little.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.3.13  cjcold  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.3.3    7 years ago

Weird how it takes more skill and training to be a auto mechanic than it does to be a Dr.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.3.14  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.11    7 years ago
all other (non-literalist) Christians are irrational.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he actually thinks that.

 
 
 
Don Overton
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1.4  Don Overton  replied to  TᵢG @1    7 years ago

didn't humans kill them all with ar15s?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.4.1  cjcold  replied to  Don Overton @1.4    7 years ago

Have yet to kill anything with my AR-15, but it is much like holding a warm fuzzy blanket. Pretty sure that it is my duty as an American to own one.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.4.2  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.4.1    7 years ago

Sub 1 MOA. .62 green tips out of my custom AR. at 500 is always a good bet. It's cool living out on the prairie where I can get away with thousand yard shots.

 
 
 
TTGA
Professor Silent
1.4.3  TTGA  replied to  cjcold @1.4.2    7 years ago
Sub 1 MOA. .62 green tips out of my custom AR. at 500 is always a good bet.

Not against a hungry dinosaur it's not.  More likely something a bit larger than a .600 Nitro Express, say maybe a 20mm Okerlion.

Silly, though, everyone knows what killed off the dinosaurs; it was the Martians with their Q32 Space Modulator.  They'd have got us too if that damned rabbit hadn't stolen the Space Modulator.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.4.4  cjcold  replied to  TTGA @1.4.3    7 years ago

Never trusted Marvin the Martian or Bugs Bunny but always loved the Q-36 Space Modulator. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.4.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  cjcold @1.4.4    7 years ago

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.4.6  Gordy327  replied to  cjcold @1.4.4    7 years ago
but always loved the Q-36 Space Modulator. 

"Explosive" space modulator. Very handy for removing planets that obstruct one's views of Venus. jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
1.5  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @1    7 years ago

This is total bullshit!

Dinosaurs were not destroyed by the flood-- in fact they've lived in some parts of the world in recent times. (This guy obviously has never  movie "Jurassic Park"!)

So what are the actual facts-- what really killed all the Dinosaurs?

Well, it should be obvious!!!

Who (or what?) killed all the Dinosaurs?

Its obvious-- the main source of pure evil today: HILLARY CLINTON!!!

If the damned gubmint would end the cover-up and investigate Hillary's emails..well.. let's just say the incriminating evidence is all there-- in black and white!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
2  Perrie Halpern R.A.    7 years ago

A science teacher's nightmare. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3  Tacos!    7 years ago
What Really Happened To The Dinosaurs?

They got back in their spaceships and flew the $@#% home.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @3    7 years ago

That's the best explanation yet!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
3.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @3    7 years ago

They had a tv show first.

 
 
 
Don Overton
Sophomore Quiet
3.3  Don Overton  replied to  Tacos! @3    7 years ago

Didn't humans kill them all off with their ar15's

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.3.1  cjcold  replied to  Don Overton @3.3    7 years ago

Fred and Barney just got hungry after bowling.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.4  Gordy327  replied to  Tacos! @3    7 years ago
They got back in their spaceships and flew the $@#% home.

I think that is similar to a plot in an episode of Star trek: Voyager.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.4.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Gordy327 @3.4    7 years ago

Two episodes that I can remember.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.4.2  Gordy327  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.4.1    7 years ago
Two episodes that I can remember.

Which ones? I remember the one where Voyager is beamed into a giant city-sized ship controlled by bipedal dinosaurs, the descendants of our dinosaurs. What was the other?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.4.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Gordy327 @3.4.2    7 years ago

"Tattoo", where Chakotay crash lands yet another shuttle (how many did they have, anyway?) on a planet where the ancestors of the rubber tree people (his tribe's ancestors) lived.  Neelix nearly loses an eye to a hawk, IIRC.  I guess they brought those along to Earth with them.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.4.4  Gordy327  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.4.3    7 years ago
"Tattoo", where Chakotay crash lands yet another shuttle (how many did they have, anyway?)

I vaguely remember that one. I know there were a few Chakotay history episodes. And I think it was Tuvok who was the worst when it came to crashing shuttles. Fortunately, the Delta Flyer solves that problem.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.4.5  cjcold  replied to  Gordy327 @3.4.2    7 years ago

Nothing scarier than a Tribble!

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
3.5  mocowgirl  replied to  Tacos! @3    7 years ago
What Really Happened To The Dinosaurs?

Just saw an interesting article about this a few minutes ago...

WASHINGTON — New research released Friday captures a fossilized snapshot of the day nearly 66 million years ago when an asteroid smacked Earth, fire rained from the sky and the ground shook far worse than any modern earthquake.

It was the day that nearly all life on Earth went extinct, including the dinosaurs.

The researchers say they found evidence in North Dakota of the asteroid hit in Mexico, including fish with hot glass in their gills from flaming debris that showered back down on Earth. They also reported the discovery of charred trees, evidence of an inland tsunami and melted amber.

Separately, University of Amsterdam's Jan Smit disclosed that he and his colleagues even found dinosaur footsteps from just before their demise.
 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    7 years ago

Guys like this talk about taking God at his word and then invent stuff to add to the Bible that isn't there.

 
 
 
Veronica
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4.1  Veronica  replied to  Tacos! @4    7 years ago

OMG!  I actually agree with you.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6  sandy-2021492    7 years ago

What a grifter.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Participates
8  Veronica    7 years ago

Honestly, I think my explanation to my students when I was teaching Faith Formation (when I still was a Christian) was a hell of a lot more believable.

I told them that we have no idea how long god's days were.  So one day could be a million years.

Sigh - so glad to be out from under neath that restriction... (the Bible)

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
8.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Veronica @8    7 years ago
I told them that we have no idea how long god's days were.  So one day could be a million years.

Based on what we actually know about the universe it might have been more accurate to tell them each day would have had to have been at least 2.4 billion years... but then again, getting the numbers to line up with facts in a fantasy story isn't really helping anyone, it's just reinforcing the delusion.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9  Trout Giggles    7 years ago

Sorry, TiG, I got to about 30 seconds when he said dinosaurs lived alongside Adam and Eve 6000 thousand years ago and I could hear my brain cells dying.

I tried

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
9.1  Gordy327  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    7 years ago
when he said dinosaurs lived alongside Adam and Eve 6000 thousand years ago and I could hear my brain cells dying.

It certainly gave me a headache. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.1.1  cjcold  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1    7 years ago

Which part of humor don't I get.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
9.2  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    7 years ago

Yeah, why chance it?   Better to waste those cells on beer and at least get something of value.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @9.2    7 years ago

Exactly! A real headache aka hangover!

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.2.2  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.2.1    7 years ago

HYDRATE!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
10  Kavika     7 years ago

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sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
10.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @10    7 years ago

256

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
10.1.1  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @10.1    7 years ago

LOL, and true as well.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
12  mocowgirl    7 years ago

I live among Christians who believe everything was poofed into existence in its current form.  Nothing has evolved.  The fossils are unique species that existed and died.  They believe that life forms on this planet are not related.  The time frame (whether 1 day or millions of years) does not seem to matter to most of them.   Their major concern seems to be a belief that they are living in the "end of days", not about life's origins.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
13  Tacos!    7 years ago

So, here's an example of someone taking a line of scripture, ignoring everything around it, and using it to promote something ridiculous: Ham references Job 40:15-17

Look at Behemoth,
     which I made along with you
     and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16  What strength it has in its loins,
     what power in the muscles of its belly!
17  Its tail sways like a cedar;
     the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.

and claims that the "Behemoth" mentioned there is a sauropod dinosaur. This:

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He does this because the word "cedar" appears there, and I guess Ham figures that can only refer to the thick trunk of the tree, which - yes - would be like a sauropod's tail. But the line doesn't say anything about the trunk. It says the tail " sways like a cedar." Nothing about thickness. Here's some swaying cedars:

He is also ignoring the rest of the description in verses 16-23, which read in part (21-23):

Under the lotus plants it lies,
     hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22  The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
     the poplars by the stream surround it.
23  A raging river does not alarm it;
     it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.

It's hard to picture a sauropod lying under lotus plants in a marsh or chilling in a river. But you know what does?

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They also eat grass like an ox.

Hippos graze on land; they do not eat while in the water and aren’t known to graze on aquatic plants. They prefer short, creeping grass and small green shoots and reeds. While they will eat other vegetation if it’s there, they tend to avoid coarser grasses that are more difficult to digest, and do not root in the dirt for buried roots or fruits.

And you might think their tails sway like a cedar. Or maybe you don't. the Bible is full of poetry. (I'm not posting a picture of a hippo's butt. Just forget it.)

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
13.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Tacos! @13    7 years ago
(I'm not posting a picture of a hippo's butt. Just forget it.)

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cjcold
Professor Quiet
13.2  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @13    7 years ago
(I'm not posting a picture of a hippo's butt. Just forget it.)

I hear they are easily pissed off so that's probably for the best.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
15  Kavika     7 years ago
What Really Happened To The Dinosaurs?

They are all living in the mythical kingdom of Jeffersonia. In fact the Ark is on Lake Shasta unloading them as we speak.

The should be roaming down the streets of Redding soon.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16  JBB    7 years ago

Ken Ham is a dinosaur...

 
 

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