Flat Earth vs. Round Earth
You are essentially perpetuating ignorance by denying science.
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They believe this stuff. The leader of the group, Mark Sargent, claims that the Earth is flat and the stars and planets are just lights in the sky. He holds that the flat Earth means that there is a greater force than us. Apparently the views are religious.
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This short video is fascinating in that it shows that our minds are quite capable of believing almost anything and have a remarkable ability to sustain a belief we desire to remain true.
Note the scientific experiment in the video and the lame denial ("it is heat") by the flat Earthers who simply will not accept reality.
We humans do have a long proven history of being able to convince ourselves of some pretty weird stuff.
Self delusion can be quite powerful.
Been trying to figure out the concept of religion since I was a kid. Gave up on it.
Did photoshop actually exist in 1969?
Thank goodness for the ice wall.
Cats would have knocked everything off the edge of it didn't exist.
That is too funny.
Until my daughter got a couple cats, I wouldn't have understood.
I swear I saw it move.
Cats are stubborn when they have their minds set on something. Not even being made of concrete can deter them.
My cat likes to sleep in a bookcase and has started to push books off the shelf so he has more room to stretch out as the afternoon sun illuminates the bookcase.
If he manages to get into my bedroom at night, he pushes books, pens and other items of off a bedside table so I am forced to pay more attention to him.
Those are good pictures.
Sad, one of her cats died not long after the hurricane last year. The mischievous one. Probably got in to something she shouldn't have.
They're not mine. It's just from a meme I saw on Facebook and thought was funny.
I'm sorry about your daughter's cat. They do have a tendency to follow their curiosity into trouble.
I hope these people don't believe in global warming (disk warming?) because when that ice wall melts we're all in trouble.
OMG, it will be the end flat earth as we know it.
I think I saw that GoT episode.
Watched the whole video.
While there is some satisfaction in seeing science prevail (through the stripe test), on the whole I thought the video took all this far too seriously.
The reporter kept trying to suggest flat earth belief could take us back to a dark age. I'm sorry, crank theories and hoaxes and conspiracies never last, and this one is no threat either.
As for the "leader" of the flat earthers , Mark Sargent. He is either in it to be a cult leader, or he is in it for money, and the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
What kind of fool doesn't know that we live on an ovoid?
What strikes me about the video is the apparent genuine belief of the flat Earthers and the mental gyrations they will engage in to cling to the belief.
The stripe test (as you mentioned) rather conclusively illustrated the Earth is not flat yet the flat Earthers denied what they just witnessed ... dismissing it as "heat". This is a remarkable level of belief perseverance (the inverse of confirmation bias).
Flat earthers are a great example of how capable the human mind is at harboring an irrational belief because it is so easy to see that what they believe is not only wrong, but absolutely demonstrably wrong. Yet nothing, apparently, will convince them they are wrong.
The problem is that this failure in rational thought is not limited to flat Earthers. The planet is replete with human beings holding seemingly unassailable irrational beliefs. Clearly one of the biggest challenges of the 21st century thus far comes from irrational acts of terror. Although flat Earthers are harmless (humorous even), harmful beliefs that lack a governing agent of rational thought are also quite real. That might be what the reporter was referring to when she viewed this kind of reasoning as a threat.
There has always been irrational thinking.
I really don't take flat earthers seriously. I hope they don't end up like those Heaven's Gate people.
Certainly, we all routinely engage in irrational thinking. It is difficult to fully suppress our emotions. This, however, illustrates that there may be no limits on how extreme our irrational thinking can get. Heaven's Gate and other cults are also excellent examples of this phenomenon.
Do you think they are mostly just playing a game and not actually believing this nonsense or are you saying that you dismiss them as irrelevant?
I was unable to open the YouTube, but no matter. It's interesting that I just used an expression about "flat Earth" a day or so ago in a dialogue with a member who was genuinely incapable of comprehending some truths when I provided links to absolute proof in an attempt to correct his wrong thinking. When I eventually gave up I told him not to be too concerned about it, and used the expression: "Some people believe the Earth is flat."
Yes it is difficult to imagine that people genuinely believe this nonsense but then how do we explain so many who support this idea? These people hold conventions. The leaders might be doing this for cult power but the followers do not seem to get any benefit by holding to such a belief. Quite the opposite.
As Deepthroat put it, follow the money ...
It is interesting what some believe as genuine truth...
Also odd that some cannot see the faults in their own views...
Here's to hoping they aren't taking themselves seriously and are just having fun.
I really believe they're sincere in their views, which is both scary and sad.
Darwin would figure that they would end up just like the HG folk.
It was pretty obvious how they pulled off the stripe test. They were just slowly submerging the target as they got farther away.
Everybody knows that the surface of Salton Sea is shaped like a cup. Duh.
Huh?
He's joking.
Ya gotta love Leonard Cohen!
Flat Earth vs. Round Earth
Well perhaps it was, 6,000 years or so ago, when we were mingling with the dinosaurs.
Sorry for the sarcasm but this is just one of those notions that is, well ridiculous. I have immunity against whatever these folks may suffer from, I read.
It’s a myth that Christianity believed in a “flat earth”
First of all the Bible says just the opposite (Isaiah 40:22 as an example)
Secondly and most critically, this myth was invented in the late 19th century by critics of Christianity in an attempt to dismiss religious belief
I do not see where Luther made that claim.
LFOD way to defend your religion and yourself against a claim that wasn't made. Feeling a little defensive today?
Can "Christianity" believe anything? I didn't know "Christianity" had a brain. Some Christians, on the other hand, have in fact claimed both belief in a flat earth and Christianity.
"a new YouGov study reveals that 2% of Americans resolutely say the earth is flat." and "Most flat earthers consider themselves very religious".
The study also shows that the majority of those who believe the earth is flat earn under $40k a year. So in the US, low income religious believers are most likely to be flat earthers.
There is the problem distilled to its essence.
That's ok. Christians belive in other ludicrous myths too. That's why they or their claims may be dismissed just as easily.
Thank you, I did not recollect having made it, but I am getting older and a tad forgetful:)
Though I never made that claim;
Why would one myth supersede another?
Religion (other than the suppression of scientific thought at the time) had little to do with the flat earth theory, it was the ignorance of the times which can be excused I suppose. But in this day and age there is no excuse for ignorance other than the nearest mirror.
Once one believes in the original lie..........................
Obviously wrong, everyone knows the earth is shaped like a bundt cake mold.
Do we live on a Toroid-shaped planet?
Can someone please explain how gravity works on a flat planet.
Lol kind of but with a bump in the middle
Is there raspberry preserves in the middle?
Cream cheese frosting too? That is the best part of carrot cake.
Absolutely, you'll hear those science types claim it's something called lava (as if rock can melt) but it's really just very hot raspberry preserves.:P
Flat earth gravity is a manmade invisible force generated by the LHC and contained by the giant glass dome that's been placed overhead. The air pressure pushes straight down but doesn't effect the satellites over head since they are placed outside the dome by the "deep State" and they get moved like windshield wipers across the giant glass dome instead of orbiting the earth... /s (just incase someone thought I was serious...)
I can't view YouTube from work but I think this is the video where they seriously claim we live under a dome...
WHAT ?! i was told there was a secret toy surprise in the middle, like they have in certain cereal boxes (or did). There's no secret toy surprise ?!?!
Lol, nope just raspberry preserves with occasional deposits of English muffins
That was not the video I meant to post
I meant to post the Mark Sargent clip of under the dome but now I can only find his 2 hr documentary so I won't bother linking such garbage here.
A planet made of cream cheese frosting might convince me that there is a god, after all.
With a red cake center? That would beat a molten core all to hell.
Yes!
The idea that they believe that we live in a glorified snow globe is both funny and depressing.
I've yet been able to find a recorded case where anyone fell off the edge of the earth...
If they continue to promote this tripe, I just might be your first case:)
That's because they don't come back. Duh!
Or because the earth isn't flat...Duh!.
Note that these nutcases will create their own rockets to prove the Earth is flat via a photograph yet they never go to Antarctica to find and photograph an edge of the planet.
Wouldn't a picture from an airplane suffice? Rocket man never got nearly as high as a routine commercial flight.
These people are irrational. There is no reaching them with facts or logic.
I was informed by a devoutly religious member of this forum the other day that my obsession with logic is an impediment to their religious belief. They will not have a discussion with me in the future until I change my godless ways.
Reminds me of this ...
Yes critical thinking does seem to get in the way of religious belief.
I will bake a lof of banana nut bread in his honor, as that appears to be Kirk Cameron.
If they couldn't cite the argument from ignorance and the concept of God of the gaps, their arguments would also disappear.
And vice versa.
That is still hilarious .
Can you PM me a link to that conversation?
Of course.
Thanks!
So... If the Earth is flat what's on the other side?
Roots:)
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