Gwen Berry and the Flag

  
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Gwen Berry and the Flag
 

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sandy-2021492
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1  author  sandy-2021492    5 months ago

The people most outraged about this tend to be the ones least upset about an insurrection in which our flag was used as a literal weapon against law enforcement officers.  Some of us aren't buying into the manufactured outrage.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1  Tessylo  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    5 months ago

Yup, faux outrage yet again over an African American protesting racism.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
1.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to    5 months ago

There are other ways she could have done so without, in my opinion anyway, disrespecting the flag of our country. Again, just my opinion for whatever it's worth.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.2    5 months ago

She did not disrespect the 'flag of our country'

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.2    5 months ago

not much, and for anyone else that can't grasp the basic principles behind the 1st amendment. this particular ideological battle was fought and lost by conservatives over 50 years ago. give it up.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.4    5 months ago

It's worthless

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.3    5 months ago

You have your opinion, I have mine.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
1.1.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  devangelical @1.1.4    5 months ago

"give it up."

Why, because you do not agree with what I said and because it does not match your particular beliefs? Not going to happen. Have a good day.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Expert
1.1.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.6    5 months ago
You have your opinion, I have mine.

That's your right. You also have the right to believe the Earth is flat. 

"Have the right" does not mean is right. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.8    5 months ago

I don't believe I said otherwise.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.9    5 months ago

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Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.10    5 months ago

My apologies Bob. I was in a hurry and misread your comment. What I meant was that  opinions are just opinions and not necessarily right or wrong.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Expert
1.1.13  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.12    5 months ago
opinions are just opinions

That depends on the topic. If someone is of the opinion that 1 + 1 equals 3... that opinion is just plain wrong. 

Some people confound opinions and facts.

And some people do it on purpose. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.14  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.13    5 months ago

Agreed.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    5 months ago

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Bob Nelson
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1.2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    5 months ago

I'm not sure sure the athletes agree. 

They want to be recognized as "the best in the world". 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
1.3  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    5 months ago
The people most outraged about this tend to be the ones least upset about an insurrection in which our flag was used as a literal weapon against law enforcement officers. 

Exactly..

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Expert
2  Bob Nelson    5 months ago

Beau is pretty incisive. He puts up a video just about every day, and they're all worth their few minutes. 

He's spot on, here. The complainers are hypocrites.

Of course... they aren't just hypocrites about the flag. They're hypocrites about everything.

When I was a kid, my parents taught me that defacing the flag was an insult to the nation:
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What are we to understand here? That the flag is nothing more than a support for advertising? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    5 months ago

I said it once about this photo but I will say it again...this is blasphemy. The flag is not to be used for such purposes. It degrades and disrespects the values that the flag stands for

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Expert
2.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    5 months ago

But, but, but... right-wingers love the flag! 

They love it so much that they make it even more magnificent by putting the image of their Glorious Leader on it... 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    5 months ago

Excellent video. The only thing he said is wrong is when he tells the critics "you don't get to...."  criticize her because that is hypocrisy.   Not only do the critics get to attack her, millions of people agree with them. 

At least now there will always be video of "patriots" using the American flag to physically assault and beat police officers on the steps of and inside the national legislature. Hard for them to rationalize that one. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 months ago

Just because you can say "But Mom, he did it" doesn't give you the right to do it also and say it's right.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.1.1  author  sandy-2021492  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1    5 months ago

No, what gives her the right is the Constitution.  It protects even unpopular speech.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.2  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.1    5 months ago

right wing trash are utilizing every opportunity they have to deflect attention away from their criminal icon, his supporters coup attempt that he instigated, any official investigation of the coup attempt, and their ongoing red  state voter suppression efforts. the GOP has now surpassed the animated comedy Team America as a parody of american patriotism.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.1    5 months ago
what gives her the right is the Constitution.  It protects even unpopular speech.

Something that the so-called flag-waving patriots have forgotten. They don't care about your First Amendment rights, only theirs

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.1.2    5 months ago
That's it in a nutshell dev.  Exactly what's going on.  You must have read my mind and all of us who know what's really going on here.  
 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Expert
3.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 months ago

Beau wasn't takling about legal rights. When he says, "You've lost the right.. ", he means "You've lost any moral right...".

Hypocrisy disqualifies the speaker. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4  Kavika     5 months ago

NFL players peacefully kneeling during the Anthem are called ''Sons of bitches'' by Trump, but insurrectionists using the flag to beat LEO's are good people. 

Talk about a fucking hypocritical moron.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @4    5 months ago

"Talk about a fucking hypocritical moron."

And all those who support him

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @4    5 months ago

Trump is too stupid to be a hypocrite. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5  Tessylo    5 months ago

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Ender
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6  Ender    5 months ago

systemic...according to some on the right, that does not exist.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @6    5 months ago

If it exists, you ought to be able to provide evidence of it.

But you can't

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    5 months ago

If Black people are pulled over by cops at a higher rate than white people, what would you call that?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    5 months ago

There was a study done in the state of Washington where NA's were getting tickets at a much higher rate than others. The LEO's finally admitted that they targeted NA when they left the rez. 

Those are facts, Greg.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    5 months ago

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devangelical
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6.2  devangelical  replied to  Ender @6    5 months ago

I'm sure it doesn't seem that way to some really old tea party dipshits that are just hoping to still be around in 2024.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.2    5 months ago

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