Trump is Responsible for High Oil Prices

  
By:  al Jizzerror  •  2 weeks ago  •  100 comments


Trump is Responsible for High Oil Prices
Trump wanted higher oil prices. Biden wants lower oil prices.

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Why is gasoline over $5.00/gallon?  One reason is that Donald Trump brokered a deal with OPEC oil producers in 2020 to cut production.

Trump plays key role in brokering historic oil deal


The president 'showed his skill at dealmaking


President Trump played a key role in the historic agreement between the world’s largest oil producers that trims global production by nearly 10 percent, according to Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette.

The deal reached by the so-called OPEC+ group, which ends the price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, reduces global output by 9.7 million barrels per day in May and June, helping to ease a global gut exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Production will also be reduced by 8 million bpd from July through December and 6 million bpd from January 2021 through April 2022.

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at dealmaking,” Brouillette told reporters on a Sunday evening conference call.

Trump did not make any specific promises on behalf of U.S. production, according to Brouillette, who noted that Mexico agreed to cut output by 100,000 bpd in May and June and the “reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.” 

Trump said in a Monday morning tweet that "OPEC+ is looking to cut 20 Million Barrels a day, not the 10 Million that is generally being reported."

https://www. foxbusiness.com /markets/trump-saudi-arabia-russia-opec-oil-deal-role

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Republicans are blaming Biden for high gas prices butt the reason is the decreased oil production brokered by Trump.

Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.  This will reduce the price of oil and, therefore, gasoline prices will go down.


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al Jizzerror
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1  author  al Jizzerror    2 weeks ago

I don't like walking.

I may start riding a motorcycle again.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago

I briefly considered a motorcycle, but there's too many morons on the road. in fact there's too many morons in this country, especially those morons that think gas prices are determined by the current POTUS. he could invoke the war powers production act by EO tomorrow, and the trumpsters would complain about that too. fuck them.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.1.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago
too many morons on the road.

Too many morons on cell phones.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.2  arkpdx  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago
I don't like walking.

I love walking to work.

Too many morons on cell phones.

I love not having a cell phone.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2    2 weeks ago

I like walking but I'm not walking 30 miles back and forth to work everday

 
 
 
evilgenius
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1.3  evilgenius  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago

I have a Honda Ruckus scooter I take to work on nice days. I can park it inside the building.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago
I may start riding a motorcycle again.

Would that be environmentally responsible?  

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.4.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.4    2 weeks ago
Would that be environmentally responsible? 

Yes.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.4.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.4.1    2 weeks ago

Not if you do the math.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.4.3  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.4.2    2 weeks ago

My last motorcycle got over 100MPG.

My F-150 gets about 18MPH.

You do the math....

 
 
 
Viewer01
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1.4.4  Viewer01  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.4.2    one week ago

Remember me?  

Walking requires more oxygen for the walker, and a greater CO2 output by the walker.  Maybe less than a motorcycle, but it still needs to be factored in.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.4.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Viewer01 @1.4.4    one week ago

Good point!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.4.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Viewer01 @1.4.4    one week ago
Remember me.

How could I forget?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago

I love my scooter.  I don't wander far from home so it is perfect for my needs.  I have a friend who will take me somewhere if needed for over sized items, but other than those rare times, I do nicely.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

The big oil companies have admitted they are "maximizing" their profits during this inflation. 

But we blame Biden. 

Screwed up priorities. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago
The big oil companies have admitted they are "maximizing" their profits during this inflation.

Lol.  You believe companies only started "maximizing" profits in 2021?  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    2 weeks ago

Of course not.  But why maximize profits during high inflation? The gas prices are not Bidens fault. The right keeps lying about this. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

Google what environmental regulation Biden put in place as soon as he took office; and then get back to us. 

Oil companies aren't going to increase production until it is profitable for them. The real question is how high the price of a barrel of oil has to be for them to make enough profit to keep their investors happy.

But why maximize profits during high inflation?

Why don't you ask OPEC, Mexico, South America, and every other country that has a drop of oil in them?

The only country will increase production and sell to the US is Russia; who we have sanctioned.

Funny how Biden refuses to even talk to US oil companies about increasing production. But Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia (before they invaded Ukraine), and every third world shithole dictator in South America- he won't stop begging.

The gas prices are not Bidens fault.

Were they Bush Jr's fault? He sure as hell got the blame for them; and was abused for begging the Saudis- and he only did it once. 

The right keeps lying about this. 

The left keeps denying that Biden and Democrats want gas prices high. We are all supposed to be buying electric cars according to Biden and the tone deaf Democrats!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
ut why maximize profits during high inflation?

So if, as we agree, businesses always maximize profits how can you argue that they caused high inflation by maximizing profits? Businesses seeking to maximize profits has been a constant  for hundreds of years. 

he gas prices are not Bidens fault. 

Biden has spent his career in politics pursuing policies that cause high gas prices. He  literally campaigned for President on this.

Suddenly, his policies have no effect.

The right keeps lying about this.

And Democrats, honest as they are, never blamed Republican Presidents for high gas prices. Is that what you are selling? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
The gas prices are not Bidens fault.

Of course not but oil and gas companies, along with the legislators who are beholden to them for campaign donations, know they can use inflation and high gas prices to extort the administration into opening up oil fields, subsidizing more of their profits and hoarding oil leases even though none of that will actually lower gas prices in the short term.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
even though none of that will actually lower gas prices in the short term.

. It's the same argument the Democrats made to avoid doing anything in 2007, and now here we are in the long term, paying the price for Democrats inaction.

The cycle continues.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
"The right keeps lying about this."

That's all they do about everything.

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.8  bccrane  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
Were they Bush Jr's fault? He sure as hell got the blame for them;

Amazing wasn't it?  I kept asking the question on NV, why would Bush/Cheney cause oil prices to increase in an election year causing the American people pain at the pump and then turn around and ask those same people for them to vote republican?  It seemed to me that the ones that would benefit the most were the democrats.  What I knew in May of 2008 was it wasn't Bush/Cheney, the Saudis, big oil, or the weather, it was the hedge funds driving up the price and that it would collapse because supply and demand wouldn't support the artificial increase in price.

January 2009, (note the timing after the election) "60 Minutes" did a piece on the price of oil and what happened in 2008 and they confirmed what I said and they traced it back to a brokerage house where the hedge fund on oil was being run out of, they stopped at the door and claimed that they couldn't get to see the records of who was running the fund, it was private dontcha know, so in closing, we will never know.  BS the timing was too convenient for Obama and one of his biggest backers Soros, oh yeah, Soros is also an expert at running hedge funds.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
The right keeps lying about this. 

Exactly, and if gas prices were at historic lows, the left would be reminding us that Biden had nothing to do with it.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.1.10  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
The gas prices are not Bidens fault. The right keep 

Oh please. You don't think anything s biden's fault even with proof

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.1.11  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    2 weeks ago
It's the same argument the Democrats made to avoid doing anything in 2007

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GW Bush was the president in 2007.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.12  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @2.1.11    2 weeks ago

funny how the memories of white supremacists get so blurry prior to 1/20/17...

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.13  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @2.1.12    one week ago
funny how the memories of white supremacists get so blurry prior to 1/20/17...

Started forgetting things 1/21/2017, did ya?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.2  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago
But we blame Biden. 

Well of course.  He's sitting in the Oval Office right now so when prices are high and the economy is bad he gets the blame.  Just like when prices are low and the economy is good he gets the credit.

It's not fair, but it's what is reality.  

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.2.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Snuffy @2.2    2 weeks ago
But we blame Biden. 
It's not fair, but it's what is reality.  

True.

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.3  Veronica  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

Wonder if they would prefer it if he meddled with capitalism & told them what they could charge.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

How were oil investments over the last 10-15 years?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

But we blame Biden

comedy

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.5    one week ago

But Trruuummmmppppp!!!!! The only rallying cry Democrats have.

They blamed GW for high gas prices as well. They really blasted him for begging OPEC to increase production.

The good old days. When Democrats could use gas prices as a weapon against Republicans. Demanding actions they wouldn't even dream of doing now with Biden in charge.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    2 weeks ago
Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.  This will reduce the price of oil and, therefore, gasoline prices will go down.

They will tell him to go fuck himself again. Just like the last two times he went begging. They know how much oil and gas the US has untapped. They aren't going to increase their production until we increase ours. 

Funny how he refuses to talk with US oil companies about what it will take to get them to pump more oil; but is willing to sell us out to any dictatorship in the world that has a drop of oil to offer.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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3.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ronin2 @3    2 weeks ago
Funny how he refuses to talk with US oil companies about what it will take to get them to pump more oil

Funny how you ignore the news

Biden tells oil refiners: Produce more gas, fewer profits

By JOSH BOAK 2 hours ag

The government reported on Friday that consumer prices had jumped 8.6% from a year ago, the worst increase in more than 40 years.

The letter notes that gas prices were averaging $4.25 a gallon when oil was last near the current price of $120 a barrel in March. That 75-cent difference in average gas prices in a matter of just a few months reflects both a shortage of refinery capacity and profits that “are currently at their highest levels ever recorded ,” the letter states.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1    one week ago

Sending a letter demanding more oil production isn't talking to oil companies. Biden has already blasted them repeatedly in speeches, and with the media.

I said "talking to them and finding out what it would take for them to increase production".

Not more BS demands.

Funny how you completely ignored what I said.

According to your article the oil producers sent a letter to Biden with their demands on what it would take to make it feasible for them to increase production, Don't hold your breath for Bdien to act on any of them. 

I will believe Biden is serious about increasing US oil production when he sits down in person with US oil producers; like he has with every dictator with an ounce of oil left in the ground.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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3.1.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.1    one week ago
Sending a letter demanding more oil production isn't talking to oil companies.

I guess you think oil executives can't fucking read.

 
 
 
dalewalt
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3.1.3  dalewalt  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1.2    3 days ago

Sending a letter and hoping it gets to the 'oil executives' isn't leading

Actually setting up a meeting, or at least a call, and Biden attending personally is leading.  So far, with the issue that is of the most concern to americans, Biden has sent a letter and whined that gas station owners need to reduce prices

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4  Snuffy    2 weeks ago

Also included in the article but missing from the cut & paste above..

The production cut gives so much needed relief to a U.S. shale patch that has been devastated as West Texas Intermediate crude oil has plunged 62 percent this year, putting many companies in the sector on the brink of extinction. The S&P 500 Energy sector has seen its market capitalization fall by 43 percent this year to under $659.1 billion.

“This is a significant agreement that will foster increased stability in energy markets to the benefit of both American energy consumers and producers,” Mike Sommers, president and CEO of the American Petroleum Institute, said in a statement.

Part of the problem around this time that let to Trump doing what he did was the price war  between OPEC and Russia.

So the actions by the Trump administration was to help our domestic industry but hey,  kuddo's.  You managed to blame this on Trump instead of just Putin.  Well done...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @4    2 weeks ago

Fox business?

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Fox business?

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Snuffy
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4.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @4.1    2 weeks ago

This entire article is seeded from Fox Business.  If you go back & read the seed at the very top of the page you can see that.  but I'll help you out as it does appear you hate to read anything.

From the pasted seed at the top of the page...

President Trump   played a key role in the  historic agreement   between the world’s largest  oil   producers that trims global production by nearly 10 percent, according to Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette.

The deal reached by the so-called OPEC+ group, which ends the price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, reduces global output by 9.7 million barrels per day in May and June, helping to ease a global gut exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Production will also be reduced by 8 million bpd from July through December and 6 million bpd from January 2021 through April 2022.

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at dealmaking,” Brouillette told reporters on a Sunday evening conference call.

Trump did not make any specific promises on behalf of U.S. production, according to Brouillette, who noted that Mexico agreed to cut output by 100,000 bpd in May and June and the “reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.” 

Trump said in a Monday morning tweet that "OPEC+ is looking to cut 20 Million Barrels a day, not the 10 Million that is generally being reported."

https://www.  foxbusiness.com  /markets/trump-saudi-arabia-russia-opec-oil-deal-role
 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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4.1.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
This entire article is seeded from Fox Business.

That's bullshit.

Do you really think Fox Business would blame Trump for the high oil prices?

That's my premise.

I used elements from a Fox Business article that praised Trump for being a dealmaker:

Trump Plays Key Role In Brokering Historic Oil Deal

The President 'Showed His Skill At Dealmaking  '

His dealmaking "skill" caused OPEC to cut production which has resulted in our high gasoline prices.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
This entire article is seeded from Fox Business.
That's bullshit.

Reallly????    So you ignore everything else that is in that article from two years ago as to why Trump got OPEC to cut their production?  And what else was going on in the global oil industry during that same time?  Seems like you want to ignore everything that was going on and why this deal was made at the time.  

Simple question,  why was the deal made in the first place?  Do you have any clue for that?

But as I said, kudo's...   you managed to find a way to blame Trump for the high gas prices we are experiencing today.  You're so fucking wrong that it hurts to read your words, but hey,  good job in finding a way to blame the past guy...   Joe would be so proud.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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4.1.5  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.3    2 weeks ago
it hurts to read your words

Thank you for that heartwarming compliment!

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    2 weeks ago

It costs $50 to power a 1,000 HP Tesla 1,000 miles!

Or, clinge to your dirty expensive inefficient gasoline.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.1  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @5    2 weeks ago
It costs $50 to power a 1,000 HP Tesla 1,000 miles! Or, clinge to your dirty expensive inefficient gasoline.

Well... to be fair... not everybody can afford $130k for a car.  Or even $80k for the 670hp model.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.1  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @5.1    2 weeks ago

Have you priced a new F-150 with a V8 lately?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jack_TX @5.1    2 weeks ago

There are plenty of other electric cars out there for about 40K.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
Have you priced a new F-150 with a V8 lately?

I haven't.  Given the sales figures and the stock performance, nobody else is either.  Wow.  It's been bad, and it looks like it will only get worse.

I think the Lightning is a potential game-changer, though.  I've told my wife I'll probably trade in my Audi for one when they all start coming off leases in 2025.   Apparently everybody else is waiting on that, too.

I'm a huge proponent of electric cars, BTW.   My wife drives a plug in hybrid BMW X5 currently, and I'm not sure I see us buying another gasoline-powered car.

That said, the fuel economy math on the Model S just doesn't make sense.  But let's be honest, that's not why anybody buys that car.  If you're in the $130k car bracket, you really don't care what it costs to fuel it.

 

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.4  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

150,000 miles at 15 MPG at $5 Gal = $50,000

Saving 80% comparatively is a pretty big deal.

 
 
 
Veronica
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5.1.5  Veronica  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
Have you priced a new F-150 with a V8 lately?

With or without the gun rack in the back window?  jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
There are plenty of other electric cars out there for about 40K.

Yeah...if you can get one.

But let's also be honest about those.  They are significantly more expensive than gasoline-powered alternatives. 

The VW ID4 electric is $41k.  The comparably sized gas-powered Taos is $23,500 and it gets 28mpg city.    So assuming gas is at $7/gallon (and it won't stay there), you're spending an extra $18k to save about $250/mo at the pump.  So even if you can charge the ID4 for free (which you can't), it takes 6 years to break even.

Electric cars are definitely the future of transport.  But we're probably at least 5 years away from the point where they represent actual $$ savings for the average family.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @5.1.4    2 weeks ago
150,000 miles at 15 MPG at $5 Gal = $50,000 Saving 80% comparatively is a pretty big deal.

Yeah...but even with above-average use, 150k miles is ten years worth of driving. 

Also, I'm not sure the validity of comparing a luxury sedan to a pickup truck and ignoring the utility that would cause a person to need a truck in the first place.  You're not going to tow the ski boat behind a Tesla.

I think that's why I'm so optimistic about the Lightning.  The pricing is getting close enough that it's actually starting to make sense financially.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.8  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @5.1.7    2 weeks ago

Exactly, a $40,000 electric pickup theoretically pays for itself in fuel savings alone over the first 10 years of expected use...

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.1.9  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
Have you priced a new F-150 with a V8 lately?

I bought a used F-150 XL SuperCab in March for $14,500.

I decided to get the V6 because of the fuel milage (it was cheaper too).

I didn't price new F-150s because I was looking for a work truck.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

Is there much of an issue with battery footprint?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5.2  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @5    2 weeks ago
It costs $50 to power a 1,000 HP Tesla 1,000 miles! Or, clinge to your dirty expensive inefficient gasoline.

I can drive 1,000 miles in 16 hours.  Can't do that in a Tesla.

Driving is still cheaper than flying and has a smaller carbon footprint to boot.  If the government had focused attention on better fuel efficiency then Tesla wouldn't be competitive.  And improved fuel efficiency would have addressed climate change a whole lot quicker.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

Okay, Trump is to blame.  Or Putin.  Or profiteers & price gougers.  What is Biden going to do about it?  

Joe Biden is the President; no one else.  Maybe Biden can convince people the high prices are only temporary and the problem will fix itself.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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6.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Nerm_L @6    2 weeks ago
What is Biden going to do about it? 

Did you bother to read the article?  Here is the last paragraph in the article:

Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.  This will reduce the price of oil and, therefore, gasoline prices will go down.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  al Jizzerror @6.1    2 weeks ago
Did you bother to read the article?  Here is the last paragraph in the article: Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.  This will reduce the price of oil and, therefore, gasoline prices will go down.

Biden has already talked to Saudi Arabia.  The Saudis rejected Biden's request in February but have now agreed to increase production.  That's old news.

Oil requires refining.  And refining capacity is a real bottleneck.  US refineries are being shuttered so there's nothing more oil can do to increase supply of gasoline and diesel.   

Biden is trying to transition to alternative energy before the country is ready.  EV production may be increasing but there isn't sufficient production capacity to replace gasoline vehicles that quickly.  Oil companies aren't going to be making long term investments in oil production and refinery capacity when the government is trying to eliminate oil in the short term.

There hasn't been any planning for a transition.  There hasn't been any recognition that investments in oil production and refining will need support during a transition.  The government can eliminate oil today but that will cause extreme pain in the economy.  The high gasoline prices really are being driven, to a significant extent, by government incompetence in planning for a transition.  If there isn't any incentive to invest in refining capacity then all the oil in world will do nothing.

 
 
 
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6.1.2  gooseisback  replied to  al Jizzerror @6.1    2 weeks ago
Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.

Why isn't he visiting American oil producers to increase production???????????

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @6.1    2 weeks ago
Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.  This will reduce the price of oil and, therefore, gasoline prices will go down

Why do anything that increases our carbon emissions?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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6.1.4  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  gooseisback @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
Why isn't he visiting American oil producers to increase production?

Oil production IS increasing:

Oil production to keep surging under Biden

1641994916403.png Data: EIA ; Chart: Sara Wise/Axios

U.S. crude oil production is projected to set a full-year record in 2023, the federal Energy Information Administration said in a new report .

Why it matters: The forecast in EIA's wider monthly outlook yesterday signals the recovery from the pandemic-fueled production collapse in 2020.

  • It also shows how oil-and-gas development is slated to remain robust even as the White House says it's aiming to reorient the economy around zero-carbon energy.

By the numbers: EIA sees annual U.S. production averaging 12.4 million barrels per day (mbd) in 2023, slightly ahead of 2019's 12.3 mbd average, though they don't see the peak of nearly 13 mbd reached in late 2019.

Yes, but: EIA monthly forecasts are a snapshot in time and bounce around based on variables like, say, the pace of pandemic recovery.

  • EIA's current 2023 forecast is based on oil prices that are actually well below today's levels.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  gooseisback @6.1.2    one week ago

Joe is blasting them in the media and writing them stern letters of disapproval. Democrats are threatening them in Congress with profiteering laws. None of which will do one damn thing to increase production in this country.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  al Jizzerror @6.1.4    one week ago

Funny, that spike between 2019 and 2020 looks larger. By 2023 the US will still be producing less oil than pre pandemic levels. 

Also your chart leaves out a little things like the US population increasing and demands on oil increasing with it. The US needs to be higher than pre pandemic levels just to have a slim hope of keeping up. 

But spin deny and deflect all you want. Biden is responsible for high gas prices. Just like Bush Jr and Trump were. Nobody cut them an ounce of slack. You can throw in rampant inflation for Biden as well.

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
Professor Guide
7  Lucifer Morningstar    2 weeks ago

It seems these liars don’t realize we know why we have higher oil prices.  It’s common knowledge but given Idiocracy they figure they will never be held accountable.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
8  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago
One reason is that Donald Trump brokered a deal with OPEC oil producers in 2020 to cut production.

I guess we are supposed to forget that this was done because the US was producing it's own oil.  Then on 20 January 2021, Biden comes into office with a stack of EO's and cuts that production.  

531 days into the Biden Administration

Nothing Built

Nothing Back

Nothing Better.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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8.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    2 weeks ago
Biden comes into office with a stack of EO's and cuts that production.  

That's bullshit.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @8.1    2 weeks ago

Then how else do you explain suspending leasing permits that helped keep prices low?  Fact of the matter is, on day 1 Joey come in with a stack of EO's eliminating much of what was working for the country.  With that stack of paper, he eliminated any chances of blaming any of the previous administrations.  It's not been a good ride for the country since 20 January 2021.  You know it, we all know it.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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8.1.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
Then how else do you explain suspending leasing permits that helped keep prices low?

Yes, that was true on day one of his administration butt it's no longer true .  Environmental lobbyists are attacking Biden over his PRESENT stance on oil leases:

New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump’s By 34%

Thousands of Permits OK’d Despite President’s Authority to End Drilling by 2035

WASHINGTON— New federal data shows the Biden administration approved 3,557 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first year, far outpacing the Trump administration’s first-year total of 2,658.

Nearly 2,000 of the drilling permits were approved on public lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management’s New Mexico office, followed by 843 in Wyoming, 285 in Montana and North Dakota, and 191 in Utah. In California, the Biden administration approved 187 permits — more than twice the 71 drilling permits Trump approved in that state in his first year.

https:// biologicaldiversity.org /w/news/press-releases/new-data-biden-slays-trumps-first-year-drilling-permitting-by-34-2022-01-21/

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Why is gasoline over $5.00/gallon?

How about the obvious:


Canceling the Keystone pipeline.
Suspension of new federal oil and gas leases.
Higher drilling fees on federal land. 
A radical push for the Federal Reserve to implement climate change policies.
Sending a clear signal to US producers that the industry is going to be phased out for some green energy fantasy.


Joe Biden is planning a visit to Saudi Arabia to encourage OPEC to produce more oil.

Is this the trip Biden said he hadn't decided on?


"President Joe Biden  told reporters that he hadn't decided whether to visit  Saudi Arabia  to beg for more oil before seconds later saying he was indeed planning a trip there."




He is begging for oil from the same country he called a “pariah?”




Final question:

What makes begging & standing in line for Saudi oil preferable to drilling and producing American oil ???

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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9.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    2 weeks ago
Suspension of new federal oil and gas leases.

The suspension was temporary.  This is from comment #8.1.2

 Environmental lobbyists are attacking Biden over his PRESENT stance on oil leases:

New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump’s By 34%

Thousands of Permits OK’d Despite President’s Authority to End Drilling by 2035

WASHINGTON— New federal data shows the Biden administration approved 3,557 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first year, far outpacing the Trump administration’s first-year total of 2,658.

Nearly 2,000 of the drilling permits were approved on public lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management’s New Mexico office, followed by 843 in Wyoming, 285 in Montana and North Dakota, and 191 in Utah. In California, the Biden administration approved 187 permits — more than twice the 71 drilling permits Trump approved in that state in his first year.

https:// biologicaldiversity.org /w/news/press-releases/new-data-biden-slays-trumps-first-year-drilling-permitting-by-34-2022-01-21/

Gee, maybe the suspension of leases isn't the fucking problem

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1    one week ago
Gee, maybe the suspension of leases isn't the fucking problem

Gee, would you invest billions in a new well with Biden as president?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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9.1.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    one week ago
would you invest billions in a new well

I'm investing billions in solar and renewable energy.

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.3  bugsy  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1.2    one week ago
I'm investing billions in solar and renewable energy.

Pssssst..

I don't think Monopoly money counts.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1.2    one week ago
I'm investing billions in solar

Nuclear power is clean power.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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9.1.5  Gazoo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1.4    one week ago

And nuclear power is reliable. Solar, which last time i heard is a renewable energy, only works for 12 hours during a 24 hour cycle and output is diminished when it’s cloudy. Wind only works when it’s windy enough to turn the blades. 

 
 
 
Viewer01
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9.1.6  Viewer01  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1    one week ago

Hey Jizz,  I have a favor to ask of you.  When you have the time, pop on by MeWe, and check out your group NV Buttheads.  

 
 
 
Viewer01
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9.1.7  Viewer01  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1.2    one week ago

Fusion hopefully, but thorium nukes could have been a means of generating power long ago.  I have read thorium reactors would have been a lot safer, and produce a lot less radioactive waste.  But uranium nukes were first used as breeder reactors to produce plutonium to make bombs.  With all the heat as a byproduct someone came up with the idea to use it also making electricity.  Thus the idea it would produce electricity too cheap to meter.    

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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9.1.8  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Viewer01 @9.1.6    one week ago

K

I haven't been on MeWe fo quite a while because it's not conducive to long articles.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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9.1.9  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Viewer01 @9.1.7    one week ago
radioactive waste.

The problem with nuclear reactors is the radioactive waste.

When the old AEC examined the problem in the 1950s, they concluded that science would figure out a solution in ten years.  Oops...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1.9    one week ago
Oops

No oops in France, Obama didn’t believe in the science and canceled our deep storage opportunity in 2011.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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9.2  Gazoo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    one week ago

“What makes begging [&] standing in line for Saudi oil preferable to drilling and producing American oil ???”

nothing, in fact it is counterproductive to the climate to ship oil half way around the world when we could produce it here because oil tankers have an extremely large carbon foot print.

Makes as much sense as demanding Americans get vaccinated while allowing untold numbers of unvaccinated illegals into the country , during a pandemic, and not requiring those illegals to get vaccinated. 

It as much sense as forcing the “great transition” on us when the place they want us to transition to isn’t ready.

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Viewer01
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9.3  Viewer01  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    one week ago

Gas prices dropped during COVID because everything was being closed down.  No one had anyplace to go.  Trumps ideas of ingesting household cleaners, and Ivermectin, along with encouraging the anti vaxxers, didn't help matters either.   Remember back then?  The empty store shelves, no toilet paper, etc.  When COVID-19 hit and demand for fuel fell dramatically, a lot of refining companies shut plants down.  Some refineries just shut down because of lack of demand, and they’re not coming back on.  And COVID is still around.  But somehow it's all Biden's fault.  

Then there is the Keystone you mentioned which wouldn't have been finished by today even if construction continued.  Who knows when the future it would have been completed.  Besides what good is all that tar sands oil if the remaining refineries are in a crack spend mode?  The crack spread is the difference between the petroleum product price, such as diesel or gasoline, and crude oil prices.  It’s basically a refiner’s profit margin.  Right now, the crack spread is at record-breaking territory.  Petrol companies are making record profits, by refining less and keeping prices high.  

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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9.3.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Viewer01 @9.3    one week ago

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Ronin2
Professor Quiet
9.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  Viewer01 @9.3    one week ago

If you are going to tells lies; then tell whoppers.

The average price of a gallon of gas in the U.S. is now $2.40, up 15 cents from a month ago and the highest price since early March of last year when the country began locking down to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

Notice the date Jan 25th 2021. The pre pandemic price of gas before lockdowns was $2.40. Prices started rising the second Biden took office. Wonder why that is? Couldn't be those mountain of EO's he signed on environmental regulations; and undoing whatever Trump had done? Canceling the Keystone pipeline didn't help either; those that understand oil futures know that. Won't be seeing those prices again- unless the upcoming recession wrecks the world economy completely. Thanks Joe.

Ah, yes. Trump and Covid. Remind us all again who got drug manufacturers to rush vaccines to market? Then take a look at Biden's and Kamala Harris' statements regarding the "Trump vaccines" before the elections.  Installs real confidence in any vaccines that come out under Trump's watch. Funny how Biden and Harris changed their tunes as soon as they won the election.  Damage done to the public's image of the vaccines; but hey, mission accomplished for Biden and Harris- they won.

Didn't Biden promise to end Covid? Also, didn't he say anyone responsible for that many deaths shouldn't be in charge? Yes, yes he did. So why is he still in charge?

Most of those deaths, some 600,000, happened after Biden took office in January 2021 at the peak of a major wave of the disease.
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About Keystone not being ready. According to Who? It is a great leftist talking point- that only Democrats site (in other worlds a massive leftist circle jerk of misinformation). Also, the tar sands are still moving by train- in outdated, poorly kept up, oil tankers on the rail. Which are subject to frequent derailments. Which two Democrat financial backers own massive chunks of the railways transporting tar sand oil? George Soros and Warren Buffet would like to thank Biden for the massive returns on their investments in the railroads; and Democrat Party.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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9.3.3  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ronin2 @9.3.2    one week ago

Aren't you glad that Trump never lied.

Okay, maybe he told thirty thousand lies, butt the Mexicans paid for them. 

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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10  magicschoolbusdropout    one week ago

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magicschoolbusdropout
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10.1  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @10    one week ago

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al Jizzerror
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10.1.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @10.1    one week ago
Wimp !

I'm glad you signed that comment.

Here's your sign:

800

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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10.1.2  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1.1    5 days ago

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magicschoolbusdropout
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10.1.4  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @10.1.2    4 days ago

There's your "WOKE" sign....... again !

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al Jizzerror
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10.1.5  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @10.1.4    4 days ago
There's your "WOKE" sign....... again !

Here's my "WOKE" sign:

800

I think Bill Engvall designed your sign.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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10.1.6  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1.5    3 days ago

So META of you. LOL !

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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10.1.7  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @10.1.6    3 days ago
So META of you.

Gee, I thought that might be the sign you wanted to hang on me.

800

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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10.1.8  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1.7    3 days ago

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magicschoolbusdropout
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10.1.9  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1.7    3 days ago
Gee, I thought that might be the sign you wanted to hang on me.

Sorry   al Jizzerror , Your "Children" won't let me play with you !

I keep getting "Deleted". 

Oh Well.

 
 

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