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Germany cracks down on far right with raids as hate crimes rise

  
Via:  Trout Giggles  •  last year  •  29 comments

By:   NBC News

Germany cracks down on far right with raids as hate crimes rise
Germany's security services are stepping up efforts to monitor and contain the threat from modern far-right extremists amid a rise in hate crimes.

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May 27, 2023, 10:00 AM UTCBy Andy Eckardt and Patrick Smith

MAINZ, Germany — Germany's security services are stepping up efforts to monitor and contain the threat from modern far-right extremists amid a rise in politically motivated hate crimes.

Earlier this week, the country's domestic intelligence service branded the youth wing of the country's biggest far-right party a dangerous extremist group.

The seriousness with which the authorities are taking the issue has increased dramatically in recent years, according to Kai Arzheimer, a professor of politics at the University of Mainz in Germany, who studies far-right extremism.

"Politicians and the security apparatus have underestimated or downplayed the scale of the problem for decades. Thankfully, this began to change even under the last administration," he said.

230525-afd-berlin-mb-1353-ac6ff6.jpg Protesters hold German flags that read "We are the people" during a rally of far-right groups in Berlin on Oct. 8.John MacDougall / AFP via Getty Images file

Multiple criminal investigations are ongoing into a small but potentially dangerous group of far-right Reichsburger extremists who allegedly plotted to overthrow the government and install an obscure hereditary prince, inspired by a florid mixture of right-wingconspiracy theories.

The country's domestic intelligence service, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (known by the German abbreviation BfV), has designated the youth wing of the the Alternative for Germany, or AfD, as extremist.

A decade after it was founded as a more conventional party critical of the European Union and integration, the far-right AfD is now firmly a part of the Germany political landscape. An opinion poll from German public broadcaster ZDF on Friday gave it 17% of the national vote — enough to become the third-strongest party in the country.

German far-right extremism experts tell NBC News that the rise of the far-right is real and dangerous, with ex-military servicemen and active police officers with access to guns allegedly involved in a conspiratorial plot, while the popularity of the AfD has reshaped political thought and dragged centrist parties to the right.

The AfD party rose to prominence around the time of the 2015 refugee crisis when then-Chancellor Angela Merkel invited hundreds of thousands of migrants, most fleeing the civil war in Syria, to settle in Germany. More than a million came, leading to anti-immigrant sentiment across Germany and Europe.

Its youth wing, the Young Alternative for Germany (known via the German abbreviation JA), which has members as young as 14, is the first German group to be branded as extremist since the Nazi era, its members described as "arsonists and cue-givers of hate" by BfV President Thomas Haldenwang this week. The AfD as a whole was put under official surveillance by domestic intelligence service in 2021.

The AfD may choose to fight the extremism decision in court and despite its "well-documented" links to even more radical far-right activity, it still has enough support nationally to be considered by some as a mainstream, respectable party, Arzheimer said.

"The AfD is the strongest party in some regions in the east and commands very respectable levels of support nationally. Their sizable delegations in the Bundestag, European Parliament, and most state parliaments give them legal protection but also access to funds and the media so that their position is quite entrenched."

In the former East Germany, which reunified with the West in 1991, it enjoys the support of roughly a quarter of voters, making it frequently the strongest party in eastern regions.

Ahead of the 2021 federal elections in Germany, the Bertelsmann Foundation found in a survey that just under 8% of German voters had "manifest right-wing extremist attitudes." The figure is almost four times higher among AfD supporters.

230525-bjorn-hocke-mb-1431-16ac6a.jpg Bjorn Hocke, chairman of the right-wing AfD, which enjoys the support of roughly a quarter of voters.Bodo Schackow / DPA via Getty Images

The AfD denies that it fosters extremist views.

Neither the AfD nor the Young Alternative responded to NBC News' requests for comment. But in a statement posted to the party's website Wednesday, co-leaders Tino Chrupalla and Alice Weidel said: "There is no progressive radicalization in the AfD," adding that the BfV's decision to class the youth wing as extremist was an "outrageous action."

The rise of the right is felt across society.

Of the almost 60,000 politically motivated crimes recorded by German police last year — including antisemitic crimes and those targeting asylum-seekers — 41% were committed by far-right extremists. The number of recorded hate crimes rose by 10% compared to 2021 and three quarters were inspired by far-right ideology, officials said earlier this month.

Unveiling the figures, Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said she would be urgently proposing new, tighter gun laws as a result.

And 79% of people asked by the German Center for Integration and Migration Research, a state-backed think tank, said German democracy was in more danger today than it had been five years ago.

On Tuesday, Germany's federal prosecutor's office said it had detained three more suspected far-right anti-democracy extremists linked to an alleged plot by the Reichsburger — or citizens of the Reich — movement, which is accused of an alleged plot to overthrow the government.

The three are suspected of membership in a terrorist organization, the prosecutor's office said in a statement. In December, 25 people from the group were arrested in an operation involving 3,000 officers who recovered firearms, bullets and detailed plans.

While few believe the group could achieve its goal, experts say it is dangerous.

"There was a high likelihood of loss of life. With more and more of these groups, we see that they are members of the military or are ex-military or ex-police," said Miro Dittrich, an expert at CeMAS, a German group that monitors right-wing extremism.

As with much far-right across Europe, another catalyst for the movement was resistance to pandemic restrictions and lockdowns.

"A lot of people joined this movement and they said people would rise up, but it never led to anything," Dittrich said.

"So the inner core of the group believe there is a plan, a conspiracy to terminate Germans and it is war and it's legitimate to use violence in a crisis moment."

There is a more subtle but no less important aspect to the rise of Germany's far right: a rightward drift in the language and politics of mainstream parties, according to Vicente Valentim, a political scientist at the University of Oxford in England who studies how politics changes social norms.

"So a part of this increase is not people becoming more extremist, it's that people who already had these views are more likely to talk about them in public. It gives voters a cue that there are others who share their views, that they are acceptable," he said.

There had also been a concrete shift in voting trends and attitudes in the last 10 years, Valentin OR Valentim argued, but just as significant was the emboldening of those who were already anti-migration and worried about radical Islam — and the center right has changed accordingly.

"It also has affected how other politicians speak — the center right takes on some of the rhetoric of the far right. It's a very strong mechanism for changing social norms. We have quite a lot of evidence that once the far right became successful, the remaining parties got closer to their views on migration," he said.

Andy Eckardt reported from Mainz, and Patrick Smith reported from London.

eckardt_photo_2017-square.jpg Andy Eckardt

Andy Eckardt is the Deputy Director, Europe, for NBC News. He is based in Mainz, Germany.

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Patrick Smith is a London-based editor and reporter for NBC News Digital.


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Trout Giggles
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1  seeder  Trout Giggles    last year

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Trout Giggles
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2  seeder  Trout Giggles    last year
The AfD is the strongest party in some regions in the east and commands very respectable levels of support nationally. 

I'm not surprised that this party is the strongest in the east. East Germany was under the thumb of communism for what? 50+ years? They went from extreme left wing to extreme right wing. It's reactionary

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    last year

who better than germany knows how to deal with neo-nazi morons...

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @2.1    last year

Bingo

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    last year

Also, unlike West Germany, it never had to face the Nazi trials and awareness. They never had to face the horrors of what they did.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    last year

That's right, they didn't.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    last year

there's still a lot of political variables that are being worked out on the east side of the old wall.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    last year

Some lingering Stasi influence perhaps?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.3    last year

Maybe since they were so authoritarian but the Stasi was the enforcing arm of the Communist Party.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  seeder  Trout Giggles    last year

I copied this from Face Book:

Reposted- Thanks NC
FASCISM
Beginning in 1943, the War Department published a series of pamphlets for U.S. Army personnel in the European theater of World War II. Titled Army Talks, the series was designed "to help [the personnel] become better-informed men and women and therefore better soldiers."
On March 24, 1945, the topic for the week was “FASCISM!”
“You are away from home, separated from your families, no longer at a civilian job or at school and many of you are risking your very lives,” the pamphlet explained, “because of a thing called fascism.” But, the publication asked, what is fascism? “Fascism is not the easiest thing to identify and analyze,” it said, “nor, once in power, is it easy to destroy. It is important for our future and that of the world that as many of us as possible understand the causes and practices of fascism, in order to combat it.”
Fascism, the U.S. government document explained, “is government by the few and for the few. The objective is seizure and control of the economic, political, social, and cultural life of the state.” “The people run democratic governments, but fascist governments run the people.”
“The basic principles of democracy stand in the way of their desires; hence—democracy must go! Anyone who is not a member of their inner gang has to do what he’s told. They permit no civil liberties, no equality before the law.” “Fascism treats women as mere breeders. ‘Children, kitchen, and the church,’ was the Nazi slogan for women,” the pamphlet said.
Fascists “make their own rules and change them when they choose…. They maintain themselves in power by use of force combined with propaganda based on primitive ideas of ‘blood’ and ‘race,’ by skillful manipulation of fear and hate, and by false promise of security. The propaganda glorifies war and insists it is smart and ‘realistic’ to be pitiless and violent.”
Fascists understood that “the fundamental principle of democracy—faith in the common sense of the common people—was the direct opposite of the fascist principle of rule by the elite few,” it explained, “[s]o they fought democracy…. They played political, religious, social, and economic groups against each other and seized power while these groups struggled.”
Americans should not be fooled into thinking that fascism could not come to America, the pamphlet warned; after all, “[w]e once laughed Hitler off as a harmless little clown with a funny mustache.” And indeed, the U.S. had experienced “sorry instances of mob sadism, lynchings, vigilantism, terror, and suppression of civil liberties. We have had our hooded gangs, Black Legions, Silver Shirts, and racial and religious bigots. All of them, in the name of Americanism, have used undemocratic methods and doctrines which…can be properly identified as ‘fascist.’”
The War Department thought it was important for Americans to understand the tactics fascists would use to take power in the United States. They would try to gain power “under the guise of ‘super-patriotism’ and ‘super-Americanism.’” And they would use three techniques:
First, they would pit religious, racial, and economic groups against one another to break down national unity. Part of that effort to divide and conquer would be a “well-planned ‘hate campaign’ against minority races, religions, and other groups.”
Second, they would deny any need for international cooperation, because that would fly in the face of their insistence that their supporters were better than everyone else. “In place of international cooperation, the fascists seek to substitute a perverted sort of ultra-nationalism which tells their people that they are the only people in the world who count. With this goes hatred and suspicion toward the people of all other nations.”
Third, fascists would insist that “the world has but two choices—either fascism or communism, and they label as ‘communists’ everyone who refuses to support them.”
It is “vitally important” to learn to spot native fascists, the government said, “even though they adopt names and slogans with popular appeal, drape themselves with the American flag, and attempt to carry out their program in the name of the democracy they are trying to destroy.”
The only way to stop the rise of fascism in the United States, the document said, “is by making our democracy work and by actively cooperating to preserve world peace and security.” In the midst of the insecurity of the modern world, the hatred at the root of fascism “fulfills a triple mission.” By dividing people, it weakens democracy. “By getting men to hate rather than to think,” it prevents them “from seeking the real cause and a democratic solution to the problem.” By falsely promising prosperity, it lures people to embrace its security.
“Fascism thrives on indifference and ignorance,” it warned. Freedom requires “being alert and on guard against the infringement not only of our own freedom but the freedom of every American. If we permit discrimination, prejudice, or hate to rob anyone of his democratic rights, our own freedom and all democracy is threatened.” And if “we want to make certain that fascism does not come to America, we must make certain that it does not thrive anywhere in the world.”
Seventy-eight years after the publication of “FASCISM!” with its program for recognizing that political system and stopping it from taking over the United States, President Joe Biden today at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia, honored those who gave their lives fighting to preserve democracy. “On this day, we come together again to reflect, to remember, but above all, to recommit to the future our fallen heroes fought for, …a future grounded in freedom, democracy, equality, tolerance, opportunity, and…justice.”
“[T]he truest memorial to their lives,” the president said, is to act “every day to ensure that our democracy endures, our Constitution endures, and the soul of our nation and our decency endures.”
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

I thought it was important to post this definition of Fascism from the WAR DEPARTMENT because we have a member here who insists that we don't know what fascism is.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    last year

... are you sure that some of it isn't the GOP platform for 2024?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    last year

I can't be completely sure...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year
Third, fascists would insist that “the world has but two choices—either fascism or communism, and they label as ‘communists’ everyone who refuses to support them.”

and they label as ‘communists’ everyone who refuses to support them.”

Sounds familiar. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    last year

Uh, yeah...I just got called one, which is laughable if that person knew anything about my background

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

Interesting post but it does not really cover the historical roots of fascism. I have a book that has a historical description. I will try find it and post it's description.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.1  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3    last year

mein kampf?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

Found it. This is from a book by a noted military historian the late Bruce Quarrie, titled "HITLER'S SAMURAI; The Waffen-SS in action. The title is somewhat misleading.

'Fascism' is often confused with Nazism in popular usage, but was an entirely separate Italian movement; ironically, although it, too was anti-communist in motivation, one of fascism's prime tenets was seizure of factory control by and for the workers. After the First World War it's aims became more nationalist in scope, demanding greater respect for Italy in the League of Nations and a stronger form of centralized government. Essentially, 'fascism' is much the same as syndicalism and, although the ambitions of the Italian Fascist Party headed by Benito Mussolini, and the German Nationalsozialistiche Deutsche Arbeiter Partei (NSDAP) grew increasingly closer during the 1930's, people today who use the terms "Nazi" and 'fascist' as derogatory synonyms, neither help their own cause nor aid historical understanding.'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.4.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.4    last year

thank you

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.4.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.4.1    last year

My pleasure.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.4.3  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.4    last year

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it's wussolini, sorry for the typo...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.4.4  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.4.3    last year

Glad to see you trade marked it

 
 
 
Ender
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4  Ender    last year

I am almost ready to say put a cork in the human race. If all we can do is regress backwards, we are about done.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @4    last year

I just want that giant asteroid to hurry up and get here

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    last year

Are you sure about that?

512

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @4.1.1    last year

Well I sure as hell don't want to get hit with a giant orange ass

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.2    last year

that's his face, he's squinting...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @4    last year

The human race is much more than the USA and Europe.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2    last year

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