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The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low

  
Via:  sandy-2021492  •  one month ago  •  71 comments


The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low
 

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sandy-2021492
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1  seeder  sandy-2021492    one month ago

This, IMO, is why Democrats don't accomplish their objectives, despite getting a majority of the vote.  They need to play hardball.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    one month ago

I've advocated for democrats to play by the same rules as republicans for years, plus democrats are weak when negotiating with republicans. give the party of uncompromising fascists some of their own medicine and then end run the political relics of tyranny that stand in the way of effecting the changes that the majority of americans want. my first targets would be the wealthy, corporate, and religious groups that benefit most from the radical right.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.1.1  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

Yes, "They go low; we go high" sounds nice and civilized, but it has hobbled the Dems, and hurt the majority.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.1    one month ago
it has hobbled the Dems, and hurt the majority.

and it is STUPID !

The majority has been getting shafted by the GOP far longer than they should have been, or was ever required. 
The Republicans' have proven (without doubt) that they are the preferred Party for the wealthy, big  pHarmy, Oil Companies( yep, one of trailer park valedictorian Trumps' favorites), The Military Industrial Complex, Russia's' Putin,, lil' Kim, Xio,  & far too many other lowlifes to mention. nd all as they attempt to co-mingle church and State, a place i hate , while effectively dumbing down our country and it's Republican Constituents.

Changing the rules for when it bests works for they, to not allow a vacancy filled in the Court, oh so non Supremeslip , then totally not obliging by their stated ways when it's their turn. 

They play hardball, why the Dems seem to play with themselves.

This submissive passive bull ship, is what has this country sinkin faster than the Russian Navy in the Black and Blue See nothing makes a mountain, of supposedly mental misfits, till fits taken the next size down 

The Far Right and Fox pushing BS 24/7 leaves US just a little South of Heaven, in the parking lot of a nasty 7/11     eghteen hours a day and WaWa'n about it   all the Fckn weigh down they due US, so lets get that bus, rolling, right over they, The American Way !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    one month ago

First of all, in the 3 and a half years of the Biden presidency every wet dream the far left ever had was accomplished.

As far as who goes high and who goes low, you seem to have once again forgotten what President Trump did as President.

A top Donald Trump transition adviser, Kellyanne Conway, said Tuesday that the president-elect would not honor his pledge to have his Justice Department go after Hillary Clinton.

“I think when the president-elect … tells you before he’s even inaugurated that he doesn’t wish to pursue these charges, it sends a very strong message” to congressional Republicans, Conway  said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”


Trump won’t try to prosecute Clinton after all, aide says (yahoo.com)


He never did go after her. James Comey ran a sham investigation in which the person who destroyed the tapes under subpoena for her got immunity. Comey then refused to bring charges, which wasn't even his call to do.

In every election since & including the 2016 election it has been the democrats who have gone low and real low.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.1  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago
First of all, in the 3 and a half years of the Biden presidency every wet dream the far left ever had was accomplished.

Sure, Vic.  The far left has been fighting for restrictive, life-threatening abortion bans for years now.

What a completely ridiculous claim.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago

The former 'president' didn't do dick - only things that benefitted himself and his rich benefactors.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago

Prosecute her for WHAT?

Fuck Comey

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.4  JBB  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.1    one month ago

If you read the pronouncements being made by our rightwing MAGAs lately out loud they sound completely bonkers...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.5  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.1    one month ago

I will truly enjoy watching maga politicians getting sucked into the anti-choice whirlpool their thumper allies have created for them in the 2024 election cycle. swim with the current rwnj xtian nationalists! stroke! stroke!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago
you seem to have once again forgotten what President Trump did as President
  • interfered in a free and fair election to his benefit
  • committed crimes while in office serving as POTUS
  • gave major tax breaks to those that needed them the least
  • turned his wall project into a series of scams
  • appointed political partisans to SCOTUS
  • alienated NATO and most of our allies
  • jump started iran's nuke enrichment program
  • publicly denigrated US intelligence agencies and employees
  • praised our NK, chinese, and russian enemies
  • shared US intelligence with our enemies in public and private
  • mismanaged the pandemic that cost over a million american lives
  • used the oval office to enrich himself and his family
  • attempted to undermine US election integrity with the big lie
  • conspired to subvert the results of a free and fair election after his re-election loss
  • attempted to incite an insurrection and obstruct the peaceful transition of power
  • did nothing to stop the J6 insurrection for over 3 hours despite pleas from family members and advisors
  • willfully retained classified scif documents during his term and didn't return them
  • facilitated more partisan division in america since the civil war to benefit himself financially

trump probably did a lot more, but those are just off the top my head...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @1.2.6    one month ago

Trump has promised to address racism against white people if he gets back in power, so all the things you just listed dont matter. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.1    one month ago

Abortion is a state issue.

Maybe if Biden gets a second term, he can suspend the Constitution entirely and ram abortion on demand down everyone's throat.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.2.9  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.8    one month ago
Abortion is a state issue.

With bans allowed by a change in SCOTUS.  Your claim is still ridiculous.

ram abortion on demand down everyone's throat.

I promise you that nobody will be forced to have an abortion on demand by government.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.10  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.8    one month ago

Your hyperbolic rhetoric has been so over the top lately it is becoming humorous...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.11  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.8    one month ago
he can suspend the Constitution

funny how some trump voters actually think that's possible. I wonder why...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.12  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.11    one month ago

oh wait, never mind ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.2.13  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.8    one month ago
Maybe if Biden gets a second term, he can suspend the Constitution 

As opposed to terminating the Constitution?

Former President  Donald Trump  called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power "... termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @1.2.6    one month ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.15  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1.2.13    one month ago

I foresee lots of insurance coverage increases for trump aligned businesses...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2.16  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago

Kind of like the Justice Kavanaugh hearings a few years ago when the Democrats went way low.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.17  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.15    one month ago

... and religious properties.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.18  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.9    one month ago
I promise you that nobody will be forced to have an abortion on demand by government.

I wouldn't put that outside the realm of possibility for maga sycophants. they really only want to outlaw abortion for white women, they just can't make that public now ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3  Tessylo  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    one month ago

We just can't be evil, hateful, dimwitted scum.  It's not in us.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.3    one month ago
We just can't be evil, hateful, dimwitted scum.  It's not in us.

Who are you speaking for?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.3.2  MonsterMash  replied to  Tessylo @1.3    one month ago

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.3.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  MonsterMash @1.3.2    one month ago

Amen!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    one month ago

posting this the same week Democrats invented a crime to try and imprison the leader of the opposition.

Bravo!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    one month ago

Your refusal to acknowledge the crime does not negate its existence, nor Trump's conviction.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1    one month ago

From a certified Trump basher:

  The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact,  no state prosecutor  — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever. Even putting aside the specifics of election law, the Manhattan DA itself  almost never  brings any case in which falsification of business records is the only charge.

Standing alone, falsification charges would have been mere misdemeanors under New York law, which posed two problems for the DA. First, nobody cares about a misdemeanor, and it would be laughable to bring the first-ever charge against a former president for a trifling offense that falls within the same technical criminal classification as  shoplifting  a Snapple and a bag of Cheetos from a bodega. Second, the  statute of limitations  on a misdemeanor — two years — likely has long expired on Trump’s conduct, which dates to 2016 and 2017.

So, to inflate the charges up to the  lowest-level felony (Class E, on a scale of Class A through E) — and to electroshock them back to life within the longer felony statute of limitations — the DA alleged that the falsification of business records was committed “with intent to commit another crime.” \

I n these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else.

Can't go lower than that... NY started with the man and then found the crime to get him.  A base perversion of justice. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1    one month ago
Your refusal to acknowledge the crime does not negate its existence, nor Trump's conviction.

it's the democrats fault that trump is a criminal, dontcha know...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.3  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    one month ago

He committed the crime, Sean (actually, crimes).  He committed them to further another crime.  Trump is unusually criminal, and that's not the DA's fault.

You know, it strikes me that your objection isn't that you think he's innocent.  You don't even try to deny that he's a criminal.  You just object to the way in which he got caught.

Why is that?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.3    one month ago
 know, it strikes me that your objection isn't that you think he's innocent

The FEC, the subject matter experts, investigated and had no issue with his actions.  NDA's aren't illegal.  Not wanting to talk about things that make you look bad isn't illegal.  

Why is that?

I believe the law should be applied equally to all people.  When Hillary Clinton pays a foreign spy to create a fake story about Trump (talk about going low)  and then illegally, per the FEC,  falsely reports it as "legal expenses" and isn't charged with the same "crimes," it stinks to high hell.  

Do you think the District Attorney's job is start with a crime and try to solve it or start with  a person and try and find a crime to pin on them? Because the DA obviously started with Trump and looked for a crime, bringing Beria's maxim to America. 

As I've said, anyone who reads the New Yorker piece and isn't troubled by the prosecution's methods has no claim on being an actual liberal or supporting the rule of law, they are just partisan who embrace the authoritarian tactic of charging opposition leaders with "crimes" that only apply to the opposition leader. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.5  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.4    one month ago

Nobody said NDAs are illegal.  Straw man.  Falsifying business records is illegal.  You DO know that was the charge, right?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.5    one month ago
ou DO know that was the charge, right?

There's more than one charge.

Why don't you explain the charges for me? We are now two days after the trial,

[] If you can do that, you will understand why my point about NDAs is relevant.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.7  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.6    one month ago

I'm on my phone, and won't be typing that much, but fortunately for you, this has already been covered in another article here.  If you choose to either ignore or misunderstand it (again), that's on you.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.7    one month ago

Lol. I can explain them and have. Sadly, as we've seen, people can read that link and still not understand what happened. So what's the second crime he supposedly committed? 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.9  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.8    one month ago

Again, this has been provided to you, and you have chosen to ignore it:

Trump conspired to promote his own election (and prevent the election of his opponents) by illegal means (falsifying business records).

Now, as this has been explained to you  ad nauseum, further demands for the same information will be deleted as trolling. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.9    one month ago

gain, this has been provided to you, and you have chosen to ignore it

[] What a [] great week.

The prosecution's theory has been misrepresented by progressives for weeks on end.

First, they falsely claimed the second crime was identified in the indictment despite having the indictment posted dozens of times.

I and others, have spent weeks pointing that out.

Then they identified the wrong crime as the second crime.

Again, the correct allegation was pointed out numerous times,only to be ignored. (

Finally, days after the trial, after an own goal is scored by one of their own proving me right, I get accused of "ignoring" the correct crime. It's farce.

That it's taken weeks for progressives here to finally identify the second specific crime Trump was charged with shows just how ludicrous amd "low" this prosecution is. The leading candidate for President charged by a partisan prosecutor in front of a partisan judge under a theory that was so obscure their own side couldn't even get it right until days after the trial. A perfect example of my point that this exemplifies the authoritarian tactic of charging opposition leaders with "crimes" that only apply to the opposition leader.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.11  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.10    one month ago

When you can produce a Dem candidate who has committed the same crimes, let us know.

Calling out trolling isn’t gaslighting.  Repeated demands for information that has already been provided is.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
2.1.12  GregTx  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.11    one month ago
When you can produce a Dem candidate who has committed the same crimes, let us know.

Now that the precedent has been set, just wait...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.11    one month ago

I already did, Hillary Clinton.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.14  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    one month ago

You claim to have done. Not the same thing.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.14    one month ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.14    one month ago
You claim to have done. Not the same thing.

You need it explained, again? I'll let someone else  do it. 

In 2016, Hillary Clinton’s campaign was fined $8,000 for violating federal campaign finance laws. Why? Her team falsely reported the funding of the Steele Dossier as “legal services” and “legal and compliance consulting.” Actually this “opposition research” was an attempt to smear her opponent with false and salacious allegations. Obviously, it was also intended to influence the 2016 election. Moreover, Hillary’s campaign was headquartered in New York State (out of Brooklyn, NY), which would make it fall under the jurisdiction of New York Penal Law §175.10, the state law which makes it a felony to falsify business records with the intent to conceal the commission of a crime. What is the key distinction between Hillary’s campaign violation versus recent news? With Hillary’s violation, there wasn’t a Manhattan prosecutor politically motivated to bring an unprecedented case to trial.

The only difference is Hillary actually committed a federal election crime. Donald trump didnt, despite the judge allowing cohen to tell the jury he did

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.17  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.16    one month ago

Then there may be grounds to prosecute Hillary.  You should get on that.

The only difference is Hillary actually committed a crime. 

Trump has committed 34 of which he's been convicted, to date.  More trials to come, so it's not looking good for him.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.17    one month ago

Did you not understand what I wrote? Otherwise it seems  like you are deliberately it taking out of context…..

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.19  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.18    one month ago

I said there may be grounds to prosecute Hillary.  Is that not what you've been arguing?  Do you disagree with yourself now?

Or is this about my response to your statement, which you edited after I replied, as shown by my quotation of your response?

You originally claimed

The only difference is Hillary actually committed a crime.

Implying that Trump didn't, and it was that comment to which I replied.  I see you have edited your comment to backpedal, because you can't truthfully say or imply that Trump didn't commit a crime.  I understand what you wrote, and that you backpedaled and re-wrote it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.19    one month ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.22  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.21    one month ago

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MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.23  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    one month ago
Hillary Clinton.

Never charged with a crime....not so much as a parking ticket, after 24 years of right wing witch hunt investigations. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.24  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.23    one month ago

all that rwnj jerking off with nothing to show for it, just like their hunter biden crusade. I guess that's what effective government looks like to knuckle dragging morons that fall over each other to vote against their best interests.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.25  MrFrost  replied to  devangelical @2.1.24    one month ago

all that rwnj jerking off with nothing to show for it, just like their hunter biden crusade. I guess that's what effective government looks like to knuckle dragging morons that fall over each other to vote against their best interests.

The best part is watching them twist themselves into knots trying to explain why trump isn't guilty of anything with 91 charges, but Hillary is guilty of everything with no charges at all. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.26  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.25    one month ago

they can accept gullible and ignorant, but draw the line on wrong...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    one month ago

I find it hilarious that maga is screaming election interference about the trial, while the trial was about some jerk-off autocrat that paid off a porn star to keep the news of their affair quiet, because it would obviously alter the election results desired if the story got out.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.2.1  GregTx  replied to  devangelical @2.2    one month ago

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Sean Treacy
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2.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  GregTx @2.2.1    one month ago

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Sparty On
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2.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.2    one month ago

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GregTx
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2.2.5  GregTx  replied to  Sparty On @2.2.4    one month ago

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GregTx
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2.2.6  GregTx  replied to  devangelical @2.2    one month ago

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GregTx
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2.2.7  GregTx  replied to  GregTx @2.2.6    one month ago

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devangelical
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2.2.8  devangelical  replied to  GregTx @2.2.6    one month ago

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Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    one month ago

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devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    one month ago

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evilone
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4  evilone    one month ago
On Gateway Pundit, one poster suggested shooting liberals after the verdict. “Time to start capping some leftys,” said the post. “This cannot be fixed by voting."

Source

After last  Thursday’s historic guilty verdict  against Trump, an Ohio Proud Boys chapter vowed “war” and posted a video of Proud Boy street brawls that ended with the message, “Fighting solves everything.” 

Source

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @4    one month ago

But liberals are the violent ones....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    one month ago

....look what we make them do........

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    one month ago

We must be the Devil then

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.2    one month ago

I hope I don't get any maga smegma on me...

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.2    one month ago

we are, because trump is as pure as the driven snow, in a catholic cemetery...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5  devangelical    one month ago

gee, I sure hope trump's legion of domestic terrorists are able to hold their mud when trump gets sentenced 4 days before the convention...

 
 

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