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MAGA Tries to Defend Trump Mocking Rob Reiner

  
Via:  Devangelical  •  11 months ago  •  48 comments

By:   Nikki McCann Ramirez

MAGA Tries to Defend Trump Mocking Rob Reiner
MAGA commentators are finding inventive ways to defend Donald Trump mocking Rob Reiner's killing, while others are condemning the president's post.

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A prominent public figure who was outspoken about his politics was brutally killed on Sunday, and Republicans would like you to know that they would never, under no circumstances, mock or minimize a tragedy to score political points.

Unless the president does it first.

The reaction to the death of famed director Rob Reiner and his wife Michele Singer, who were allegedly murdered at their Los Angeles home by their son Nick, fell largely into national grief for the man behind films such as The Princess Bride, This Is Spinal Tap, and When Harry Met Sally.

The motive behind the murders has not been established, but some conservative s — many aware of Reiner's past criticism of President Donald Trump and his connections to prominent Democratic figures — were quick to assert that they would never dance on his grave because they disagreed with his politics.

"You won't see people on the right celebrating the horrific murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. Compare to the Left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder," Pizzagate conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec wrote late Sunday night on social media. Several other conservatives made similar posts. "Liberals are desperately searching for a prominent conservative mocking Rob Reiner and his wife passing," wrote MAGA commentator Gunter Eagleman.

Is the president of the United States prominent enough?

Trump wrote Monday on Truth Social that the reason Reiner had been killed was because of "the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TDS."

"He was known to have driven people CRAZY by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump Administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the Golden Age of America upon us, perhaps like never before," Trump added. "May Rob and Michele rest in peace."

Trump doubled down on his comments later on Monday, telling reporters in the Oval Office that Reiner was "deranged" and that he was "very bad for our country."

Trump is, of course, the first person the conservative movement looks to to gauge how they should feel about something. The president's post about Reiner was so despicable, however, that the right wasn't sure how to proceed.

Some, like Posobiec, began scrambling to craft a defense of Trump's post. "Rob Reiner called for Trump to be jailed over lies. Not surprised Trump said what he said," Posobiec wrote, alongside several reposts of videos and content highlighting the director's past criticism of the president. Eagleman shared a screen grab of Trump's post but quoted only "May Rob and Michele rest in peace," as if it were sincere, while ignoring the substance of the post.

Conservative columnist Kurt Schlichter in the span of a few posts went from claiming that all he had seen were "conservatives being horrified," to telling people to "CRY MORE" about Trump's statements.

Laura Loomer, who has advised Trump since he retook office, wrote that Reiner was "a loser."

"Naturally, his son was also a loser, and he got addicted to drugs and allegedly murdered his parents," she continued, attaching a fake, anti-Trump Reiner tweet for effect. "Looks like Rob should've spent more time parenting & less time spreading Russia conspiracy hoaxes about President Trump. I stand with President Trump."

In raising the specter of Kirk, conservatives also renewed attention on their vengeful public crackdown against anyone who dared criticize Kirk in the aftermath of his assassination in September. Many Americans who spoke ill of Kirk after the shooting were fired from their jobs, with a Reuters investigation finding that at least 600 people were "fired, suspended, placed under investigation or disciplined by employers," for comments about Kirk.

At least a few on the right realized that after conducting such an intense campaign of public pillorying of Kirk's critics, Trump's comments were — at a bare minimum — a terrible look. "We can't call out the Left for celebrating Charlie's assassination but laugh at this because it's a 'mean tweet,' wrote MAGA influencer Brilyn Hollyhand. "Taking a victory lap when a critic is killed? That's how you lose Gen Z and independents. We can't sit on a pedestal and condemn the Left but normalize this."

Congressional Republicans were largely silent. The few, the proud, the ones who already have bones to pick with Trump were the most outspoken.

"This is a family tragedy, not about politics or political enemies," Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a recently converted Trump critic, replied to the president's post on X. "Many families deal with a family member with drug addiction and mental health issues. It's incredibly difficult and should be met with empathy especially when it ends in murder," she added. Greene is correct, but that didn't stop her and virtually every Republican in the MAGA movement from leveraging the addiction issues of former President Joe Biden's son Hunter as a cudgel against the former president. Something to think about as Greene continues her attempted rebrand.

Longtime Trump critic Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) wrote in response to Trump's post: "Regardless of how you felt about Rob Reiner, this is inappropriate and disrespectful discourse about a man who was just brutally murdered. I guess my elected GOP colleagues, the VP, and White House staff will just ignore it because they're afraid? I challenge anyone to defend it."

A few other Republicans found it in themselves to gently chide the president. "This statement is wrong," Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) wrote on X. "Regardless of one's political views, no one should be subjected to violence, let alone at the hands of their own son. It's a horrible tragedy that should engender sympathy and compassion from everyone in our country, period."

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), who announced this summer that he will not seek reelection in a district that is expected to flip Democratic in 2026, told Axios that the post was "not presidential. The couple were stabbed to death. Most Americans want more and better from our president."

Other influencers and commentators, including Piers Morgan, radio host Erick Erickson, and social media influencer Sage Steele criticized the president for being hypocritical and making Reiner's death about himself. Greg Gutfeld awkwardly tried to reckon with Trump's comments Monday night on Fox News. "He was asked to and he didn't," the host said when a panelist said he hoped the president corrects himself. "You don't have to like the thing he says all the time. In my filter, Trump is always words versus deeds. I don't have to like what he says. In fact, I can hate what he says. But I can also think, in his brain, he's going, this guy compared me to Hitler, he put a target on my back, I don't like him."

"If it was me, I would go, like, but I'm sorry he's dead," Gutfeld added.

Of course, there will always be those who flat-out defend the president's most vile acts even as they continue to brand themselves as spiritual leaders within the conservative movement.

“President Trump is not fake enough to eulogize (speak well of) his most virulent haters,” wrote Pastor Darrell Scott, who calls himself a “longtime” friend and adviser to the president. “He said what he said, and it is what it is.”


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devangelical
Professor Principal
1  seeder  devangelical    11 months ago

gee, I wonder if barron owns a gun ...

meh, my money is still on melania ...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @1    11 months ago

You needn't go so far afield. MAGAs here on NT are justifying Trump's vileness. That's acceptable behavior undr the CoC, apparently...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1    11 months ago

… trying to justify

Same old tired tactics … deflecting to bad behavior by others, lying, etc.

What should be done is to unconditionally condemn Trump’s rhetoric and criticize the abysmal human being.   But partisanship always seems to override honesty, rationality, empathy, responsibility, and patriotism.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.1    11 months ago

At what point do these people realize that their fealty to their Leader has transformed them into abject, contemptible trolls (the kind under bridges, as well as the Internet variety).

Have they no pride? No self-respect?

I really don't understand.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.2    11 months ago

I do not understand it either.   While I can understand why some people are loyal (beyond being aligned ideologically) to their party (habit, confirmation-bias, etc.) there logically is a point where basic decency, common sense, etc. kick in.    

How anyone can support Trump at this point is beyond me.

 
 
 
Thomas
Professor Guide
1.1.4  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.3    11 months ago

This is an echo of the world in the beginning of the 20th century. A zeitgeist of each nation seeking their own form of nationalism mixed with populism 

From the article:

Trump is, of course, the first person the conservative movement looks to to gauge how they should feel about something. 

He is their savior. (I would like to note that he is not a leader of a conservative party. He is the cult leader of a fascist movement.) 

The world watches America because we, for the time being, are the wealthiest nation and therefore can cause the biggest tsunamis when we jerk around our trade. Trump does not understand this. Trump understands the world as a static place: we are the richest, therefore we will stay the richest. 

Does he think we are really that stupid?

Trump echos the Monroe doctrine because that is what he wants: A third of the world directly under his influence. The Western hemisphere sounds large until you realize that it only incorporates under a third of the landmass on Earth.  Why do we have to go backwards? We already had larger spheres of influence through cooperation, trust, and global engagement. Now we are viewed as untrustworthy and fickle. 

Or, after an interesting talk with ChatGPT:

This is an echo of the world in the beginning of the 20th century: a zeitgeist of nations turning inward, seeking their own form of nationalism mixed with populism. The pattern is recognizable: political movements shaped more by emotion than by fact, and loyalty to a single figure elevated above institutions, norms, and even reality.

From the article: “Trump is, of course, the first person the conservative movement looks to to gauge how they should feel about something.”

That observation points to something deeper. Rather than operating as a traditional political party, the movement around Trump increasingly resembles a personality-driven structure—where truth is defined not by evidence, but by the leader’s position at any given moment.

The world is watching. America remains the wealthiest nation on Earth, and our choices can destabilize global markets and alliances. Trump rarely acknowledges this interdependence. His rhetoric treats American wealth and power as inherent, automatic, and permanent.

But early 20th-century history reminds us that nations believed the same thing then—right up until they didn’t. Nationalism, populism, and the elevation of a single leader above democratic institutions proved catastrophic across Europe and beyond.

What we’re seeing today is not unprecedented. It is familiar. And history is very clear about the risks when politics abandons shared reality in favor of devotion.

And:

Trump echoes the Monroe Doctrine, but in the conman’s version — not to expand American influence, but to pretend we have more of it. He talks as if reclaiming the Western Hemisphere is a historic “win,” even though the Americas make up less than a third of the world’s landmass and far less of its economic power. The truth is, we already held far greater global influence before him. Trump hasn’t expanded America’s reach — he has shrunk it, ceding ground in Europe, Asia, and Africa while selling the illusion that we’re gaining control close to home. It’s the classic grift: surrender something enormous and call the leftover scrap a prize.

It is obvious that whatever sort of plan that he has (or concept of a plan might be a better description) was only grow his ego. He does not care that his rise announces the descent of America back to subordinate status just as long as he gets his yah-yahs plated with gold, his tawdry name besmirching all of the landmarks, and when he finally kicks the bucket, he will be the biggest and best, the most happy person, more happy than any man has ever been happy, maybe more happy than anyone could ever have been happy. Because for him, that’s the whole point. The country is just the prop.

And some people fell for the shiny gold thing. Fish do that too.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.5  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Thomas @1.1.4    11 months ago
he is not a leader of a conservative party. He is the cult leader of a fascist movement

a conservative political party has usually been the best launchpad for fascism ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
2  Igknorantzruls    11 months ago

the GOP , Gutless Oppressive Pussies

hippo critical wussies

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2    11 months ago

maga weenies ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
3  Gsquared    11 months ago
“President Trump is not fake enough to eulogize (speak well of) his most virulent haters,”

Then he should have just STFU.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
3.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Gsquared @3    11 months ago

what a fckn defense 

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
3.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1    11 months ago

"Pastor" Darrell Scott is a low-life scumbag.  There, I said what I said and it is what it is.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
4  Hal A. Lujah    11 months ago

I’ve been saying this for a long time now: Trump is not the problem.  The problem is the significant part of the electorate that would still support him if they walked in on him raping their disabled child.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
4.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    11 months ago

Don't give 47 any ideas

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    11 months ago

they'd probably find some bible scripture they could warp to justify it ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.3  TᵢG  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    11 months ago
The problem is the significant part of the electorate that would still support him ...

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devangelical
Professor Principal
4.4  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    11 months ago

that segment of the republican party has been nazi-lite for almost a century ....

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.5  cjcold  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    11 months ago

Or shooting someone on fifth Ave.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5  Trout Giggles    11 months ago
"You won't see people on the right celebrating the horrific murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. Compare to the Left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder," Pizzagate conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec wrote late Sunday night on social media. 

I seem to recall these exact same words from someone here on NT this week. Do they get an email every day with the daily talking points? Because I swear, I will read something here then hear it come from the mouth of one our bigoted engineers or vice versa

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    11 months ago

it's their trickle down misinformation pyramid scheme. it starts before daybreak in the right wing media ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @5.1    11 months ago

I think they stay up all night following trmp on his truth social account

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
5.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    11 months ago
I think they stay up all night following trmp on his truth social account

What a pathetic way to spend one's time.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.2    11 months ago

wisdom of the 3am golden shitter oracle ...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    11 months ago

They get directives from the Ministry of Truth. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.3  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    11 months ago

Don't forget that it was Jack Posobiec that started the "Pizzagate" lie that Hillary Clinton was running a child trafficking ring out of the basement of the Comet Ping-Pong pizza restaurant which didn't even have a basement.

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
6  Freewill    11 months ago

Did you guys see the shit he did with the plaques in the Whitehouse under the photos of the various Presidents? 

See article HERE .

How can anyone so self-centered, childish, hateful, and disrespectful ever think that he has earned the respect afforded to a POTUS?  In what fucking nightmare does anyone find this to be acceptable?  It isn't even funny, if that's what some are suggesting.  What an embarrassment if that "Presidential Walk of Fame" is visible to the public or visitors to the Whitehouse!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
6.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Freewill @6    11 months ago

Can you imagine what this psychopath was like as a kid?  I bet he was a humongous asshole that every kid hated, made worse by being so spoiled and entitled.  Can’t follow any rules, won’t listen to anyone, willing to degrade anything or anyone for no reason on the fly, just an obnoxious pile of steaming shit 24/7/365.  Great job Republicans. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @6    11 months ago

And they keep defending him, Freewill.   There seems to be no point with remaining Trump supporters — no line Trump can cross — where the cultish devotion to this abysmal human being breaks down.

Where is the integrity of the GoP members in Congress?   They still want to attach to this piece of shit as their leader?   As the voice and face of their party (and, worse, our nation)?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.3  JBB  replied to  Freewill @6    11 months ago

How? Did you see our president on TV tonite?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @6.3    11 months ago

The guy must actually believe the American people are stupid.   He is partially correct, unfortunately.

It is tragic that some people actually believe the litany of lies he spewed in just 15 minutes.


BTW, Trump yet again repeated his claim that he reduced drug prices by 400%, 500%, and even 600%.   Do Trump supporters understand that this is mathematically gibberish? 

How stupid must Trump be to keep repeating this?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @6.3.1    11 months ago
How stupid must Trump be to keep repeating this?

... and yet, he's obviously smarter than the maga morons that believe him.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6.3.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @6.3.2    11 months ago

I don't think our NT MAGAs are actually defending Trump any more. Even they know, deep down, that he's indefensible.

They're defending themselves. They MUST persist... or admit they've been bamboozled. Played for fools. That's hard to admit. So they continue. I wonder if they understand what's going on. If so, they're even sadder. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.4  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Bob Nelson @6.3.3    11 months ago

they've missed plenty of opportunities to take a stand against that bloated bag of shit. since they fooled themselves, they can fucking forgive themselves ...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6.3.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @6.3.4    11 months ago

I doubt they're aware. Allowing themselves to understand what/why they're doing d'où require accepting that they've been made fools of.

They MUST shut their brains down. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Freewill @6    11 months ago

John posted a seed about that

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
7  freepress    11 months ago

The "Presidential Walk of Fame" now has derogatory personal attacks and Trump opinions posted on plaques under each president.

Shameful! Every President is part of history and has nothing to do with his derogatory opinions. 

Historical presidents don't need a walk of "fame", pick up any history book of all the presidents with photos.

MAGA doesn't value history. All the nonsense over confederate statues but no outrage over tearing down a wing of the historical White House!

There is no defense for this nonsense and derogatory rhetoric demeaning the highest office in America. Trump is trashing America.

Americans once wanted high standards but MAGA accepts the lowest most base language and behavior from their cult leader.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1  TᵢG  replied to  freepress @7    11 months ago

What is most outrageous about this is that it was entirely unnecessary.   It serves no purpose other than satisfy the childish, trollish, sadistic desires of Trump.   A more perfect example of malignant narcissism would be hard to find.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
7.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @7.1    11 months ago

Every day it is becoming more and more clear that Trump is a very sick, deeply disturbed individual. I seriously expect him to have a complete mental breakdown in the not too distant future. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.1    11 months ago

Well if that does happen, it will occur before his supporters wake up to reality because I see no hint that they can break free of the cultish hold Trump has on their minds.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
7.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    11 months ago

It appears that many of them will never accept the reality that he is a sociopath/psychopath.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.4  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.1    11 months ago
I seriously expect him to have a complete mental breakdown in the not too distant future. 

define complete ...

I do agree that he doesn't possess the mental armor to withstand much more, which should be interesting in light of dear leaders pending legal events calendar. with the barrage of bad news he's been receiving on all fronts, it's getting more difficult to determine just what exactly has triggered his latest unhinged rant ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.5  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.3    11 months ago
he is a sociopath/psychopath

are they invisible to each other like malignant narcissists are?

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
7.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @7.1.4    11 months ago
define complete

Crawling on the floor, chewing on the carpet, foaming at the mouth...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    11 months ago

Even if he walks around the White House lawn in his bathrobe waving a gun?

I'm taking bets that this happens with the next month

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.7    11 months ago

I could see Trump walking down his presidential walk of fame at three in the morning babbling to the photo of himself. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.9  seeder  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.8    11 months ago

on his way to the shitter at 3am? maybe he should try bran muffins ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.7    11 months ago

Do you see local Trump supporters criticizing Trump?   They are still trying to defend the abysmal human being.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
7.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.10    11 months ago

No, I don't

 
 

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