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GOP 'waiting for Trump to die or quit' as midterm blowout looms: analyst - Raw Story

  
Via:  Devangelical  •  10 months ago  •  33 comments

By:   Ewan Gleadow

GOP 'waiting for Trump to die or quit' as midterm blowout looms: analyst - Raw Story
The Republican Party is waiting for Donald Trump to "quit or die," according to a political analyst who believes the party will struggle next year. The 2026 midterms could be a blowout for Republican candidates, with many dropping out of the race before it really starts. Abrupt resignations and shoc...

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The Republican Party is waiting for Donald Trump to "quit or die," according to a political analyst who believes the party will struggle next year.

The 2026 midterms could be a blowout for Republican candidates, with many dropping out of the race before it really starts. Abrupt resignations and shock retirements throughout the GOP, including ex-Trump ally Marjorie Taylor Greene and recently Virginia state Senator Bryan Reeves, have sent the party into turmoil.

Salon's Amanda Marcotte, writing in her Substack, noted that "Virginia state Sen. Bryan Reeves abruptly quit his campaign [Sunday] against an incumbent Democratic senator, Mark Warner of Virginia."

"Reeves gave the usual family excuses, but then basically admitted that there's no point in running when Trump is the party's leader. 'We must stop the infighting, regroup, and unite behind principled leadership worthy of our cause,' he posted on X."

"As I wrote earlier this month, Republicans are in a holding pattern, basically waiting for Trump to die or finally quit politics, with the latter feeling almost like a pipe dream at this point in time. Some of them increasingly seem to understand that they don't really have a political party, just a cult of personality. Their best hope is to bide their time and plan on rebuilding the GOP from the ashes once Trump is gone."

Despite the sweeping losses for the Republican Party ahead of the midterms next year, it is not a guaranteed victory for Democrats. Marcotte warned, "That's definitely good news, but the big problem is that Democrats are also lost and unsure what their future holds."

"But I think 2026 may show some promising possibilities for the Democrats. The election of Zohran Mamdani in NYC — who will take office later this week! — shows that there really could be a path forward that will energize voters and create real hope for the future — but only if they're willing to take it."

Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman has since suggested the GOP could end up rebelling against Trump with a potential big split in the making.

He wrote, "For the time being, election victories by Democrats are our only hope of saving American democracy, but in the longer run, we need two decent, sane political parties."


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devangelical
Professor Principal
1  seeder  devangelical    10 months ago

I could see POS/POTUS quitting and escaping before the end of his term, right after jd vance signed some post dated pardons.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Participates
2  GregTx    10 months ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
3  TᵢG    10 months ago

If the GoP truly wants Trump to be gone, they have the power to do it.   Stop supporting/defending this buffoon and embolden Congress to take him out.  (Never going to happen, obviously, with this group.)   The midterms should change that.

There are myriad impeachable offenses.   To reify this notion, I asked ChatGPT to format concise articles of impeachment based on Trump's 2025 actions:

Below are ten concise, impeachment-ready summary articles based strictly on 2025 conduct that already carries judicial, constitutional, or formal congressional predicates.

These are written in the correct constitutional framing style.


Article I – Contempt of Court

Defiance of Federal Court Orders in Deportations

Trump’s administration continued deportations after federal courts issued binding restraining orders, resulting in a judicial finding of probable cause for criminal contempt, undermining judicial authority and the rule of law.


Article II – Abuse of Emergency Powers

Unlawful Use of the Alien Enemies Act

Trump misused extraordinary wartime authorities to deport persons without due process and to outrun judicial review, depriving individuals of constitutional protections.


Article III – Unlawful Deportation

Illegal Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Trump’s administration unlawfully deported Abrego Garcia, prompting Supreme Court orders compelling his return and confirming the removal violated controlling law.


Article IV – Retaliatory Prosecution

Weaponization of the Department of Justice

Following judicial defeat, DOJ brought charges against Abrego Garcia under circumstances a federal judge found show evidence of vindictive prosecution, abusing prosecutorial power.


Article V – Constitutional Usurpation

Attempted Abolition of Birthright Citizenship

Trump attempted to alter Fourteenth Amendment citizenship guarantees by executive order, bypassing Congress and provoking nationwide constitutional litigation.


Article VI – Foreign Emoluments

Acceptance of Foreign Gifts Without Congressional Consent

Trump sought or accepted a massive Qatari aircraft gift, triggering formal congressional resolutions alleging violations of the Foreign Emoluments Clause.


Article VII – Retaliation Against the Legal System

Punitive Executive Actions Targeting Law Firms and Lawyers

Trump issued retaliatory executive actions restricting law firms and attorneys involved in litigation against him, chilling representation and violating core due-process norms.


Article VIII – Militarization of Domestic Politics

Illegal Federalization of the National Guard

Trump ordered National Guard deployments for domestic political objectives that were blocked by federal courts and the Supreme Court for exceeding lawful authority.


Article IX – Unlawful Use of Lethal Force

Illegal Cross-Border Strike Campaign

Trump authorized lethal strikes in international waters with contested legal authority, generating active federal litigation and international law violations.


Article X – Desecration of the Presidency

Demolition of the White House East Wing for Personal Use

Trump demolished a protected section of the White House to construct a personal ballroom, triggering federal lawsuits and violating statutory preservation processes governing national monuments.

What I believe is the proper course of action is to invoke the 25th given Trump is demonstrably unfit for the office.   This, of course, will never happen since Trump surrounded himself with pathetic sycophants, but I do believe this is what should be done.   Per ChatGPT:

I need to frame this carefully, because invoking the 25th Amendment is not a partisan weapon. It is a constitutional safety valve meant for one narrow purpose:When a sitting president is unable or unwilling to discharge the powers and duties of the office in a manner consistent with constitutional governance and the rule of law.  So the correct way to answer your question is: What factual conditions, if proven and certified by the Vice President and Cabinet, would constitutionally justify a 25th Amendment removal in 2025?  Below are the recognized constitutional justifications that would legally support invocation, tied to documented categories of conduct that have actually occurred.

Constitutional grounds for invoking the 25th Amendment

1. Systematic defiance of court orders

A president who willfully refuses to obey binding federal court orders is, by definition, unable to “faithfully execute the laws.”Courts in 2025 have already found probable cause for criminal contempt against the Trump administration for continuing deportations after restraining orders.This alone meets the classic standard of constitutional incapacity, because:

  • The president is no longer functioning within the legal system.
  • The executive branch becomes lawless by design.

2. Loss of capacity to respect constitutional limits

The attempted abolition of birthright citizenship by executive order reflects fundamental inability to recognize the limits of presidential authority.The presidency is not a monarchy. A president who repeatedly attempts to override the Constitution itself is not discharging the office as designed.This is not a policy disagreement — it is a structural incapacity.


3. Weaponization of federal law enforcement

Federal judges in 2025 have already identified evidence of vindictive prosecution following Trump’s unlawful deportation defeat.Weaponizing DOJ to retaliate against individuals for exercising legal rights is a constitutional failure mode, not merely misconduct.This places the president outside the rule-of-law framework, triggering 25th-amendment relevance.


4. Unlawful domestic militarization

Federal courts and the Supreme Court blocked Trump’s attempted National Guard deployments in 2025 for exceeding lawful authority.When a president attempts to use military force for domestic political control and is stopped by courts, this is loss of constitutional governance capacity.


5. Unauthorized lethal force abroad

The administration launched lethal cross-border strikes without congressional authorization, and DOJ attempted to insulate participants from accountability.That constitutes attempted usurpation of Congress’s war powers — another form of incapacity to discharge constitutional duties.


6. Corruption and foreign influence exposure

Formal congressional resolutions in 2025 raised constitutional violations concerning Trump’s acceptance of foreign state gifts (Qatar aircraft).A president entangled in unresolved foreign-benefit conflicts is considered constitutionally compromised and unable to act independently.


7. Destruction of national institutions for personal ends

The demolition of the White House East Wing to build a personal ballroom triggered federal litigation and statutory-process violations.Using the presidency to alter protected national monuments for private legacy purposes is abandonment of the fiduciary role of the office.


8. Pattern of escalating institutional breakdown

Individually, any of the above could be grounds for impeachment.Together, they establish systemic incapacity:

  • Repeated court conflicts
  • Retaliatory governance
  • Militarization
  • Constitutional usurpation
  • Corruption exposure

This pattern fits the precise constitutional purpose of the 25th Amendment.


What the 25th is actually for

It is not “mental illness.”
It is functional constitutional incapacity — when the presidency itself is no longer operating as a lawful constitutional office.That is exactly the condition the Framers were trying to prevent.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3    10 months ago

Articles IV, VI, VII, and IX are the real deal. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3    10 months ago

That's quite the list. In an older era he would have been hung for his crimes

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2    10 months ago
That's quite the list.

I actually thought it would be much much longer.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.1    10 months ago

I told ChatGPT to limit the list.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.2    10 months ago

that explains it

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.4  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.3    10 months ago

... not enough bandwidth available on the internet.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.2.5  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2    10 months ago

In an older era the GOP owned senate refused to hang him for all of the serious dirt that Mueller's investigation dug up about Trump's crimes. 

In a just world Trump would be in prison decades ago for multiple crimes against humanity.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.6  seeder  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @3.2.5    10 months ago

I just hope to live long enough to see that POS and his defective spawn get totally fucked over ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3    10 months ago

he violated the presidential oath of office the same day he took it ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
4  Gsquared    10 months ago
The Republican Party is waiting for Donald Trump to "quit or die,"

Every decent, patriotic American is waiting for one of those to occur.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Gsquared @4    10 months ago
Every decent, patriotic American is waiting for one of those to occur.

No decent American (person) is hoping he dies, but the entire world will take a huge sigh of relief if that does occur.  Most likely event is that he quits, gets pardoned by Vance, and retires in Russia (until he accidently falls out the 6th floor window).

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1    10 months ago

oh crap, I'm indecent. oh well ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @4.1.1    10 months ago

Did you forget to put pants on again?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.2    10 months ago

most days I'm usually able to get into them by noon MST ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
4.1.4  Gsquared  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1    10 months ago

I did say "waiting", not "hoping".  I think there is a difference however slight it may be.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.4    10 months ago
I did say "waiting", not "hoping".

Apologies, never meant to imply that you did.  Was just trying to clarify that you did not mean hoping since there are certain people on this forum that would spin what you said to mean something entirely different..

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.6  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.5    10 months ago

you can feel free to imply that about me. my fan club already knows how I feel about their POS maga savior ...

there are certain people on this forum that would spin what you said to mean something entirely different

oh that's right, and there's people at the FBI, DOJ, and DHS now equally mentally defective enough to listen ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
4.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Gsquared @4    10 months ago

I vote for the latter.  Soon.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
5  Gsquared    10 months ago
The 2026 midterms could be a blowout for Republican candidates

There is a better than even chance that will happen.  They won't be missed.

Expect more and more Republican candidates to start distancing themselves from Trump the closer we get to the mid-term elections.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @5    10 months ago

too late ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
5.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @5.1    10 months ago

It is, but they will be getting increasingly desperate.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.1    10 months ago

he's spent a lifetime of attempting to destroy whatever he can't possess and whoever has opposed him ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
5.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @5.1.2    10 months ago

One of his most endearing characteristics.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Participates
6  GregTx    10 months ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  GregTx @6    10 months ago

get a clue ...

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Participates
6.1.1  GregTx  replied to  devangelical @6.1    10 months ago

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
7  Trout Giggles    10 months ago
"Reeves gave the usual family excuses, but then basically admitted that there's no point in running when Trump is the party's leader.

He said the silent part out loud

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
8  evilone    10 months ago

It will be interesting to watch the aggregate polling as the mid-terms heat up. Historically, the Dems should do well... we'll see. The worse the polling for Trump, the more shenanigans we'll see the GOP try to jam through.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  evilone @8    10 months ago

with the number of maga legislators bailing or retiring, I don't think maga will have the votes to do any 11th hour bullshit ...

I also think republicans are now coming face to face with their own personal revelations of potential futures post trump ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9  seeder  devangelical    10 months ago

POS/POTUS is now limping around, his skin is paper thin, he needs 2 naps per day (with one on camera), he can't remember shit, and he speaks incoherently. he'll have a drool cup strapped to his face by easter and the rest of his appearances will probably be AI generated ...

 
 

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