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Analysis: These two new economic numbers blew a hole in Trump’s rosy narrative

  
Via:  Gsquared  •  9 months ago  •  8 comments

By:    Daniel Dale/CNN

Analysis: These two new economic numbers blew a hole in Trump’s rosy narrative
Two new pieces of economic data, one released Thursday and one released Friday, blew another hole in President Donald Trump’s triumphant narrative about the effects of his tariffs.

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Two new pieces of economic data, one released Thursday and one released Friday, blew another hole in President Donald Trump’s triumphant narrative about the effects of his tariffs.

The figures released early Thursday showed Trump had wildly overstated the impact of the tariffs on the trade deficit. The figures released early Friday showed he also had wildly exaggerated economic growth in the fourth quarter of 2025.

The Supreme Court   struck down many of Trump’s tariffs later on Friday . But other tariffs remain in place, and Trump   quickly said   he plans to replace the ones the court declared illegal with new tariffs under a different   law .

The trade deficit was down 0.2% in 2025, not down ‘78%’


Trump has   for   years   highlighted the trade deficit – the difference between the value of US imports and exports – as a supposed example of how the US is being “ripped off” by other countries. (Many economists   disagree   with his characterization.) On Wednesday evening, he   posted   a celebratory message on social media.

“THE UNITED STATES TRADE DEFICIT HAS BEEN REDUCED BY 78% BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS BEING CHARGED TO OTHER COMPANIES AND COUNTRIES,” the all-caps post began.

The next morning, though, the Bureau of Economic Analysis   revealed the actual 2025 trade deficit   in goods and services. It was nearly identical to the 2024 deficit, down just 0.2% — nowhere close to Trump’s professed “78%” decline. And the trade deficit in goods, the items subject to Trump’s sweeping global tariffs, was up 2.1% compared to 2024.

Trump didn’t make up the “78%” figure out of thin air, but it was still deceptive. He was citing an   out-of-date and short-term number from October 2025 , when the trade deficit was 78% lower than it was in January 2025. Experts cautioned at the time that the sharp October drop would be fleeting, the result of temporary fluctuations in gold and pharmaceuticals trade, and   it was .

Trump’s Wednesday post was also inaccurate in suggesting his tariffs are paid by foreign countries. Tariff payments are made by US importers, not foreign exporters, and those importers often pass on some of their costs to consumers. While foreign exporters may sometimes drop their prices to try to keep their products competitive,   various     analyses   have found  that the overwhelming majority of the costs of the tariffs Trump has imposed this term are being covered by a combination of US businesses and US consumers.  

Economic growth in fourth-quarter 2025 was 1.4%, not ‘5.6%’


The Bureau of Economic Analysis on Friday released another   key set of figures   — estimates on real gross domestic product (GDP) growth. These figures, too, were far from the number Trump had been touting.

Trump   told   the World Economic Forum in late January that “fourth-quarter growth is projected to be 5.4%, far greater than anybody other than myself and a few others had predicted.” He specified in a   Cabinet meeting   and a   Wall Street Journal op-ed   later in January that he was referring to a projection for the fourth quarter of 2025 from a   model   run by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. Then, in an early-February interview with NBC, he made it sound like 5.6% growth had already been achieved,   saying , “I’m very proud of it: 5.6%. You know, we have a GDP of 5.6 despite a shutdown.”

By the time of the op-ed, the Cabinet meeting and the interview, though, the Atlanta Fed’s model was down to a   projection   of 4.2% fourth-quarter 2025 growth. Various other forecasts were even   lower   than that. And contrary to Trump’s comment to NBC, forecasts aren’t reality.

The figures   released Friday   show just how far from reality his “5.6%” claim was. The economy actually grew at an   annualized rate of just 1.4%   in the fourth quarter of 2025, much slower than the 4.4% growth in the third quarter of 2025.

The fall government shutdown was a significant factor in the weak figure. Still, Trump claimed growth was 5.6% despite the shutdown, which wasn’t close to correct.

And what of Trump’s vague claim   from a speech on the economy Thursday   in Georgia, that “our country was dead” a year ago under former President Joe Biden, but “now we have the hottest country”? The US economy grew at just 2.2% in 2025, new full-year figures showed —   lower   than in every year of the Biden administration and every year of the first Trump administration other than 2020, when the Covid-19 pandemic hit.


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Gsquared
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1  seeder  Gsquared    9 months ago
The figures released early Thursday showed Trump had wildly overstated the impact of the tariffs on the trade deficit. The figures released early Friday showed he also had wildly exaggerated economic growth in the fourth quarter of 2025.
And what of Trump’s vague claim      from a speech on the economy Thursday     in Georgia, that “our country was dead” a year ago under former President Joe Biden, but “now we have the hottest country”? The US economy grew at just 2.2% in 2025, new full-year figures showed —      lower     than in every year of the Biden administration

Whatever Trump says about the economy you can assume it's the opposite of the truth.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2  seeder  Gsquared    9 months ago

Trump is making America the laughingstock of the world, and his supporters hold him on a pedestal.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    9 months ago

Trump's overly optimistic expectations has moved up the next debt limit fight to 2027.  Everything suggests Trump was planning to fight over the debt limit in 2028 as leverage for the Presidential election.

Trump's profligate spending and inadequately planned economic policies have created a equity trap in the economy.  The current services economy is not producing enough value (collateral) to support the total debt load on the economy.  Our financialized services economy has become extremely sensitive to the velocity of money and very dependent upon Federal debt as collateral.  The economy really is balanced on a knife edge at the moment.  One risk is a drop in consumer sentiment that could trigger a deeper than normal recession.  And the other risk is a return to high inflation.  Under present conditions a return to prosperity is almost entirely out of reach.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @3    9 months ago

original EXACTLY!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    9 months ago
The economy really is balanced on a knife edge at the moment.  One risk is a drop in consumer sentiment that could trigger a deeper than normal recession.  And the other risk is a return to high inflation.  Under present conditions a return to prosperity is almost entirely out of reach.

True. (Currently the economy is not in good shape jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4  TᵢG    9 months ago

We are well past the point of no return for anyone still supporting | defending Trump.   They are clearly NOT going to break free of whatever spell he has on them.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @4    9 months ago

maga is now unamerican, anti-constitution, domestic terrorists that are enemies of american democracy and the rule of law.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5  Split Personality    9 months ago

5.6% was probably the interest rate on all of the Saudi Money he is sitting on.

 
 

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