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WHY ARE WE ATTACKING IRAN? SO TRUMP CAN BE JOHN BARRON AGAIN.

  
Via:  John Russell  •  8 months ago  •  63 comments


WHY ARE WE ATTACKING IRAN? SO TRUMP CAN BE JOHN BARRON AGAIN.
A war that's gone on for a couple of weeks is making him the object of fascination he thinks he was then. As I told you yesterday, The Atlantic has reported that Trump's personal phone number is in wide circulation. Now that we're in a state of war, D.C. reporters are desperate to talk to him -- and he loves it.

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WHY ARE WE ATTACKING IRAN? SO TRUMP CAN BE JOHN BARRON AGAIN.





Here's an NBC News   story   from Kristen Welker and Alexandra Marquez:
President Donald Trump said Saturday that he’s not ready to make a deal to end the war with Iran despite the country’s willingness to do so “because the terms aren’t good enough yet,” but declined to say what those terms would be.

In a wide-ranging, nearly 30-minute telephone interview with NBC News, the president also said he is working with other countries on a plan to secure the Strait of Hormuz amid surges in global oil prices, and he dismissed Americans’ concerns about rising gas prices since the U.S. and Israel launched their joint military operation two weeks ago.

The president also questioned whether Iran’s new supreme leader is “even alive.”

Trump said he was “surprised” that Iran decided to attack other Middle Eastern countries in response to the U.S.-Israeli operation, and that U.S. strikes on Kharg Island on Saturday “totally demolished” most of the island but that “we may hit it a few more times just for fun.”

NBC has   another story , from Welker and Sahil Kapur, based on the same phone conversation:
President Donald Trump told NBC News on Saturday that he’s still mulling a potential endorsement in the competitive Republican primary for a Senate seat in Texas.

Sen. John Cornyn is facing Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in a May 26 runoff   after a close contest   on the first ballot.

“I’ll let you know that over the next week or so,” Trump said in a phone interview when asked if he’s going to endorse Cornyn. “I like him. I always liked him.”

We keep asking ourselves why Trump attacked Iran. What's the goal in this war? What's the purpose?

I think this is the purpose: Trump wants to be   John Barron   again.

In Trump's memory, there was a time when he was the most talked-about real estate developer (and sex god) in New York City. Gossip columnists were desperate for news about him. He was so important to the local media that it was sometimes appropriate for him to pose as his own publicist --   John Barron or John Miller or David Dennison   -- so he could give reporters and columnists the inside skinny on what that fascinating Trump fellow was up to.

A war that's gone on for a couple of weeks is making him the object of fascination he thinks he was then. As I told you   yesterday ,   The Atlantic   has   reported   that Trump's personal phone number is in wide circulation. Now that we're in a state of war, D.C. reporters are desperate to talk to him -- and he loves it.
Sometimes in meetings, he will leave his phone face up, allowing staff to gawk at the flashing notifications of incoming or missed calls that pile up on his screen. Only some of them are from numbers that have been saved in the device. “It is literally call after reporter call,” the first official said. “It is just boom, boom, boom.”

This is heaven for Trump:
Since the United States first attacked Iran two weeks ago, Trump has answered more than three dozen phone calls from journalists representing at least a dozen outlets, including ABC News,   Axios , CBS News, CNN,   The Daily Mail ,   The Daily Telegraph , Israel’s Channel 14, Fox News, MS NOW, NBC News,   The New York Times , the   New York Post ,   Politico ,   The Times of Israel ,   The Washington Post , and, yes,   The Atlantic . A journalist from   The Washington Reporter , a small conservative outlet, has repeatedly called, and the administration officials say Substack authors have started to call, forcing White House staff to look up names they don’t recognize.

Most of these calls are quickies.
Brief   seems to be the most frequent descriptor attached to these calls, most of which last just a few minutes, rarely more than 10.

The call with NBC (presumably with Welker) was unusual because it went on for a half hour, long enough to veer off into domestic issues (the Texas Senate race).

Why did a younger Donald Trump build, buy, and redesign builings? Why did he write books, own a football team, run casinos, and put his name on a range of mediocre products? For the money, yes, but mostly for the attention.

That's the main reason he's fighting this war. There's no reason to overthink it. His top strategic goal is to make reporters desperate to talk to him.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 months ago

This morning on Face The Nation the Foreign Minister of Iran said Trump thinks war is fun.  The CBS host was momentarily startled but the Iranian repeated it. 

Who can say he is wrong?  The White House itself has put out videos making it look like fun.

Trump likes lording it over people (everybody).   Bombing a country without an air force is considered a "magnificent" accomplishment unprecedented in the history of the world.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 months ago
ombing a country without an air force is considered a "magnificent" accomplishment unprecedented in the history of the world

Lol. Just a few short years ago, Iran was such a menace progressives justified handing them billions in taxpayer dollars after they humiliated American sailors in propaganda videos.

Now, because America and Israel were so spectacularly successful, progressives have to mock Iran to denigrate the achievement of our armed forces. But  no, don't ever suggest progressives root for American failure, right? . 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    8 months ago

I don't know what predicates your complete lack of understanding.  Commenting on the assholes running our government is not equate with wanting the American military to fail. Will we ever again see right Wingers in America be able to objectively look at what they have done?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    8 months ago
mmenting on the assholes running our government is not equate with wanting the American military to fail.

No, but mocking the capabilities of the same  Iran that they'd spent the last 20 years calling a regional hegemon in order  to denigrate the achievement of our armed forces  pretty much is. 

 America be able to objectively look at what they have done?

Critically weakened a regime that's spent 40 years killing Americans and sponsoring terrorism around the world?  Objectively, is the world and America better off with a nuclear armed Iran run by religious fanatics spreading chaos and terror throughout the globe or one that is not nuclear armed and lacks the capacity to do destabilize the mid east? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    8 months ago

The United States spends far more on Military capability than any country on Earth. Given that we should be magnitudes better than anyone else. I think we can be happy that we have those capabilities without bragging like 10 year olds

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    8 months ago
Will we ever again see right Wingers in America be able to objectively look at what they have done?

I think the answer is an emphatic "No".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    8 months ago

When I said to look objectively at what they have done I wasn't talking about Iran I'm talking about having Trump back in office this is a person who tried to overthrow the government of the United States how people could vote for him after that is not understandable at all other than you like to blame Biden when is Trump going to have to stand on his own two feet and stop blaming Biden and anyway he wasn't qualified or fit to be president even before Biden was elected in 2020 Trump has never been qualified or fit to be president starting with his birther garbage in 2011

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 months ago

If he thinks war is fun why did he get all those deferments for Vietnam?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2    8 months ago

He is the boss now and he tells them to bomb and so when the bombs fall it's his doing and he likes that tremendous element of personal power if he had gone into the military when he was 20 years old he wouldn't have any power

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

 It was much better when the President only talked media a couple times years in in stage managed predictions where "reporters" dutifully asked scripted questions that he could respond to with  a script.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    8 months ago

It's much better to have a narcissist lunatic doing self-serving stream of consciousnessjrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    8 months ago

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JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    8 months ago

Trump has never given insight into anything in his life other than the expressions of his mental illness

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    8 months ago
never given insight into anything in his life other than the expressions of his mental illness

Much better that than government officials lying about a senile old puppet having more energy than 30 year olds and being as "sharper than ever" as they run the country in his name like some third world medieval kingdom where everyone pretends the dying king is still in charge. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    8 months ago

That is ridiculous.   You are taking claims by extreme partisans and pretending that was the majority opinion of Biden.   Most recognized that he was too old to be PotUS but were faced with Biden or Trump as the next potential PotUS.

Trump is a disaster.   Biden would not have engaged in pointless tariffs, vindictive lawsuits, mass firing of political opponents, extortion of private enterprises, etc., etc., etc.   Indeed, no other candidate would have done that.

Beyond all that, Trump has caused the rest of the planet to reduce their trust in the good faith of the USA.   The USA is now a laughing stock for electing such a dishonest, criminal buffoon as PotUS.

And still you try to defend this abysmal human being.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.4    8 months ago
You are taking claims by extreme partisans

If that's what you want to call  Biden administration members and their enablers in the MSM who uncritically promoted those claims  sure. 

We had a President who was incapacitated for four years, to the point where an IG said he lacked the capacity to be held legally responsible for his actions, and the response from Democrats was to attack the IG and commit to the lie until Biden himself made it completely untenable with his shocking debate performance (though the true die hards still defended him after that ). 

nd pretending that was the majority opinion of Biden.

Lol.  Such revisionist history.  Progressives here parroted the administration's talking points. Remember the "cheap fakes" that were unedited videos of Biden freezing, wandering off  etc..  I sure don't recall you or any other progressives here   criticizing Biden and his enablers for those lies.  Rather the opposite.  

And still you try to defend this abysmal human being

Abysmal or not, he's an infinitely better President than the ghost of Joe Biden was or Harris would have been. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    8 months ago
Abysmal or not, he's an infinitely better President than the ghost of Joe Biden was or Harris would have been. 

That nonsense tells us all we need to know about MAGA. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    8 months ago

Many Progressives spent four years engaged in a conspiracy to keep the President's mental incapacity hidden from the public through a campaign of brazen lies and ham handed stagecraft and they think a President talking to reporters is a scandal. Tells us all we need to know about those progressives. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    8 months ago
Such revisionist history. 

You present minority opinions as the common positions, then claim they are revisionist history when challenged.  

Abysmal or not, he's an infinitely better President than the ghost of Joe Biden was or Harris would have been. 

A perfect example of blind partisanship.   Trump is arguably the worst PotUS in our history; certainly the worst in our lifetimes.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.9  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.8    8 months ago
certainly the worst in our lifetimes.

Prove it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.9    8 months ago

We prove it every day.   But, worse, if you do not see this glaringly obvious fact by now, there is no reasoning with you.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.11  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    8 months ago

Nor you apparently. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    8 months ago

We are well past the point of being able to reason with these people.   Trump is obviously unfit to hold office , for dozens of reasons. His supporters live in a fantasy world. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.12    8 months ago
His supporters live in a fantasy world. 

We live in a world where his opponents will publicly claim he's done nothing to secure the border. You have no room to criticize Trump supporters...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.11    8 months ago

Cut the crap.   Show us a PotUS in our lifetimes that is worse than Trump in terms of presidential demeanor, character, truthfulness, competence, respect for the office, and intellectual maturity.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    8 months ago
We live in a world where his opponents will publicly claim he's done nothing to secure the border.

Yet again, you cast extremes as the norm and then focus on one of the few (easy) things Trump has done that is good while ignoring the mountains of bad.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.15    8 months ago
you cast extremes as the norm and

Because it''s happening right now and your team has started upvoting  it.   I notice you take issue with me for pointing it out rather than those spreading it. 

 one of the few (easy) things Trump has done that is good

Well that a pretty damning thing to say about the competence of every President for the last 75 years, isn't it? 

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.17  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.14    8 months ago

You cut the crap. You're looking for someone with those characteristics after Biden/Harris?.. good luck with that. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.18  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.4    8 months ago
That is ridiculous.   You are taking claims by extreme partisans and pretending that was the majority opinion of Biden.

You're pretending it wasn't?   And calling somebody else ridiculous?

Trump is a disaster.

Trump is president in spite of the fact that most Americans would rather have had somebody else.... just not the somebodies the Democrats would allow them to choose.

Biden would not have 

The question isn't what Biden would have done.... it's what his handlers would have done in his name.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.18    8 months ago
You're pretending it wasn't? 

Did you read what Sean wrote?   The majority of Ds did NOT proclaim Biden as "having more energy than 30 year olds and being as "sharper than ever"".   You do not recognize an extreme when you see it?

Trump is president in spite of the fact that most Americans would rather have had somebody else....

That is factually correct.   It is also obvious.

The question isn't what Biden would have done.... it's what his handlers would have done in his name.  

The Biden administration would not have engaged in pointless tariffs, vindictive lawsuits, mass firing of political opponents, extortion of private enterprises, etc., etc., etc. like Trump has done.   Indeed, no other administration has or would have done that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.17    8 months ago

You, et. al., have exaggerated the negatives of the previous administration into a fiction that bears little resemblance to reality in order to argue that having Trump as president would be better for the country.

Defending Trump is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.21  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.20    8 months ago

It does however remind one of Ronnie and Nancy and her Taro Card interpreter...

His second term decline is definitely in contention with Biden 1.0 and Trump 2.0.

But  Trump 2.0 will go down in history, if we survive as a democracy.

Move over Ulysses, you light weight.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.22  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.19    8 months ago
The majority of Ds did NOT proclaim Biden as "having more energy than 30 year olds and being as "sharper than ever"".

They definitely lied about a senile old puppet.  They definitely engaged in an extensive lawfare campaign to make sure he ran unopposed.  

The Biden administration would not have

You're talking about a group of people who absolutely knew the president was incapacitated and were aggressively trying to make sure they got 4 more years of puppetry.  When they couldn't keep Joe, they replaced him with somebody else they could control.

Constitution be damned, voters be damned, as long as they get stay in power. Any supposition that they would have "done the right thing" is just outrageous blind partisanship.

They may not have done the things Trump is doing, but they were sure as hell trying to enact their own version of screwing over the American people.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.23  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.20    8 months ago
You, et. al., have exaggerated the negatives of the previous administration into a fiction that bears little resemblance to reality in order to argue that having Trump as president would be better for the country.

You, et. al., have exaggerated the positives of the previous administration into a fiction that bears little resemblance to reality in order to argue that having Biden or Harris as president would be better for the country. Fixed it for you. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    8 months ago
We live in a world where his opponents will publicly claim he's done nothing to secure the border.

Well, many were three years behind even admitting there was a problem so.............

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.25  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    8 months ago
We prove it every day. 

I beg to differ.  There is a difference between complaining about everything he does, thinks and says and proving he is the worst in our lifetime.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.26  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.16    8 months ago
Because it''s happening right now and your team has started upvoting  it. 

I do not have a team.   You are trolling.

I notice you take issue with me for pointing it out rather than those spreading it. 

I take issue with your ridiculous Trump-defending exaggerations.

Well that a pretty damning thing to say about the competence of every President for the last 75 years, isn't it? 

Again you leap to some vague extreme.    Pointless.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.22    8 months ago
They definitely lied about a senile old puppet. 

As I noted, of course there were some who took the extreme.   Most, however, either acknowledge that he was not as sharp as he should be and some expressed real concern.   Focusing on the minority that flat-out lied and pretending that was the norm is dishonest.

You're talking about a group of people who absolutely knew the president was incapacitated and were aggressively trying to make sure they got 4 more years of puppetry.  When they couldn't keep Joe, they replaced him with somebody else they could control.

You do not know what actually took place.   Logically, if the team was in that much control they would have pushed Biden out.   Your conspiracy theory does not make a lot of sense.

Constitution be damned, voters be damned, as long as they get stay in power.

Have you observed the GOPTRUMP in Congress?   You are describing them perfectly.   The real GOP is out of power and waiting in the wings. I seriously wonder if the GOP will ever recover from Trump.

They may not have done the things Trump is doing, but they were sure as hell trying to enact their own version of screwing over the American people.

My point is that no administration (R or D) has or would engage in pointless tariffs, vindictive lawsuits, mass firing of political opponents, extortion of private enterprises, etc., etc., etc. like Trump has done.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.23    8 months ago
You, et. al., have exaggerated the positives of the previous administration into a fiction ...

A lame Pee Wee Herman style 'rebuttal'.   You have nothing.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.25    8 months ago
I beg to differ. 

Big deal.   What drives you to keep trying to defend Trump?   How can you not see what is taking place right now in our nation?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.30  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.29    8 months ago

All this ridiculous nonsense everyday is just damaging this site

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.30    8 months ago

Irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.32  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.27    8 months ago
Focusing on the minority

Nice try.  There were millions of people defending him.

You do not know what actually took place.

Coming from you, that's hilarious.

What we do know definitively is that he was obviously impaired and that was visible to everyone. Democrats would never have passed the "reasonable person" test that is the basis for claims of negligence.  We know they tried desperately to hide Joe from the public, including trying to control the debate format.

We know that they sued RFK's campaign to the brink of bankruptcy rather than allow primaries where their voters had a choice.

We know they installed a replacement candidate nobody voted for rather than give their donors a chance to back Harris voluntarily.

Logically, if the team was in that much control they would have pushed Biden out.   Your conspiracy theory does not make a lot of sense.

Riiiight.   Because people who have massive power through a puppet are always looking to give that up...    Yeah. Sure.  That's exactly how it always works......

Have you observed the GOPTRUMP in Congress?

Yes.    

You are describing them perfectly.   

You suggest that Trump is a puppet of the GOP congressional caucus?  

I seriously wonder if the GOP will ever recover from Trump.   

It seems less likely all the time as the the new American Idiocracy rises around us.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.33  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.14    8 months ago

Nixon was pretty bad but not as bad as trmp.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.34  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.14    8 months ago
Show us a PotUS in our lifetimes that is worse than Trump in terms of presidential demeanor, character, truthfulness, competence, respect for the office, and intellectual maturity.

Don't ask for the impossible from Trump flunkies.

Flunkies (plural of flunky or flunkey) are servile, submissive subordinates who perform menial tasks or flatter a powerful person in hopes of gaining favors. These individuals often operate as "yes-men," acting with unquestioning obedience to perform dirty work or routine chores, often in a derogatory, liveried, or assistant capacity.
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.35  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.29    8 months ago
Big deal.   

Not a big deal, just a rational response to an irrational comment.

What drives you to keep trying to defend Trump? 

Why do you almost always resort to making it about the poster when you can't respond to the actual comment?

 How can you not see what is taking place right now in our nation?

I see it just fine, without a partisan lens that suggests it is all one sides (or one person)fault instead of the far wing nuts controlling the parties :

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Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.36  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.25    8 months ago
There is a difference between complaining about everything he does, thinks and says and proving he is the worst in our lifetime.

Don't worry, 99% of the Presidential historians will accurately and objectively rate Trump as the worst President in history, but there of course will be the 1% looking to make a profit off his unbelievably stupid and gullible base who will put out some trash "Best President in History!" book and they'll gobble it up because it feeds their desperate need for confirmation bias. So, for those of you smashturbating to pics of Rambo Trump on your wall, get your $49.99 ready.

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TᵢG
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2.1.37  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.32    8 months ago
There were millions of people defending him.

Strawman (yet again), you know that I am not speaking of all those defending Biden, I am and was speaking about Sean's extreme claim that Ds argued of Biden "having more energy than 30 year olds and being as "sharper than ever"".   That is extreme bullshit.

What we do know definitively is that he was obviously impaired and that was visible to everyone. 

We know he was not sharp.   That was as obvious as Trump's incompetence.

We know they tried desperately to hide Joe from the public, including trying to control the debate format.

Yes, that we know.   Not dealing with the point I made, but true.

We know that they sued RFK's campaign to the brink of bankruptcy rather than allow primaries where their voters had a choice.

We know the Ds definitely did not want RFK.   Again, this is not relevant to my point.

We know they installed a replacement candidate nobody voted for rather than give their donors a chance to back Harris voluntarily.

That is partisan spin.   The Ds had a historically unique situation of the presumptive nominee dropping out ~100 days before the election.   They had no realistic time to conduct a primary, then promote the nominee, raise funds, etc.   Harris was the only candidate who could use the extant campaign funds and as VP was a natural choice anyway.   The Ds were in scramble mode (thanks to Biden) and what they did was rational given the circumstances.

And this is also besides the point I made.

You suggest that Trump is a puppet of the GOP congressional caucus? 

Faux obtuseness.   No, I am talking about this quote from you:

Jack@2.1.22 ☞ Constitution be damned, voters be damned, as long as they get stay in power.

You do not see that the GOPTRUMP has bowed to Trump regardless of his attacks on the CotUS, the damage he is doing to this nation, all because of a fear that they will not be reelected??

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.38  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.35    8 months ago

The height of irrationality, irresponsibility, and unpatriotic behavior is to defend Trump.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.39  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.36    8 months ago

I'm looking forward to "Trump: The Movie"

not

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.40  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.37    8 months ago

Man, I really hate agreeing with Jack but Biden and the Democratic Party did us wrong. The DP should have forced Biden to drop out way earlier or not run at all so that we wouldn't have had Harris forced on us.

Even still, I voted for her because I knew she had to be a better POTUS than that rotting piece of flesh currently holding office

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.41  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.36    8 months ago

Where did you get your crystal ball?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
2.1.42  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.38    8 months ago

I rest my case.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.43  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.33    8 months ago

Nixon was generally a presidential, competent PotUS;  his flaw (paranoia, dishonesty, abuse of power) climaxed in a pointless attempt to get an upper hand on an election he wound up winning in a landslide and then trying to coverup his illegal acts pursuant to that.   Had he not done that, he might have been regarded as a decent president.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.44  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.41    8 months ago

DP has seen this movie before

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.45  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.42    8 months ago

You cannot formulate an argument as to how it is rational, responsible, and patriotic to defend Trump.   So you pen a platitude.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.46  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.40    8 months ago
Man, I really hate agreeing with Jack but Biden and the Democratic Party did us wrong.

As I noted, he made some true statements.   But, of course, that is a tactic.   I made a specific point, which he could not rebut, so he throws in some true statements to make it look as though he was rebutting a point I made.

It is a common, dishonest tactic.   Basically a form of strawman.

The DP should have forced Biden to drop out way earlier or not run at all so that we wouldn't have had Harris forced on us.

Absolutely.   And Biden fucked everything up by choosing to run again after suggesting that he was just going to be a one-term PotUS.   That and the failure of the Ds by letting him run again is where the Ds should be blamed for us being stuck with Trump.   The R's blame comes from the fact that they had a primary, they knew what Trump was (good grief, this abysmal human being is the only PotUS in history who tried to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement), yet they inexplicably nominated that buffoon instead of at least 6 other candidates who could have been decent presidents.   The Rs had a much easier route to avoid Trump and they truly fucked it up.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Professor Participates
2.1.47  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.45    8 months ago

Ignoring the comment, trying to change the subject, make it about the poster and then falsely accusing them of something they were not even doing.

Keep on dancing

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.48  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.47    8 months ago

You are posting bullshit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.49  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.46    8 months ago
The Rs had a much easier route to avoid Trump and they truly fucked it up.

They love the man. They worship the muddy ground he walks on

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.50  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.48    8 months ago

Brilliant rebuttal S/

Keep on dancing 

Keep on Dancing - The Gentrys - YouTube

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.51  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.39    8 months ago
I'm looking forward to "Trump: The Movie"

Didn't they already make that movie?

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.52  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.51    8 months ago

that's great!

 
 

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