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Is Trump's team abandoning its original goals in Iran?

  
Via:  John Russell  •  8 months ago  •  14 comments


Is Trump's team abandoning its original goals in Iran?
The Washington Post reported on Monday that no longer do U.S. security officials believe that Trump’s war will ensure Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon. Neither do security officials believe the war will rid the adversarial country of its oppressive theocratic regime, which has subjugated women and violently cracked down on dissent. Instead, The Washington Post reported that the administration's new objective for the war is to reopen the critical Strait of Hormuz oil passageway, the...

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The Trump administration is moving the goalposts for what they'd consider a victory in the Iran war, the clearest sign yet that President Donald Trump and his team knows they need to make it look like starting the conflict wasn’t a massive blunder.

The Washington Post   reported   on Monday that no longer do U.S. security officials believe that Trump’s war will ensure Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon. Neither do security officials believe the war will rid the adversarial country of its oppressive theocratic regime, which has subjugated women and violently cracked down on dissent.

Instead, The Washington Post reported that the administration's new objective for the war is to reopen the critical Strait of Hormuz oil passageway, the closure of which has led to global oil shortages and has caused   gas prices to rise   by an average of   more than $1 per gallon   in the U.S. over the past month. 

That means the United States will have spent   tens of billions of taxpayer dollars ,   spiked inflation   due to rising fuel prices, and led to the deaths of   at least 13 American troops , all for a reversion to the status quo.

"The incompetence is just insane," Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut   wrote   in a post on X regarding the new U.S. objective in Iran.

With the war clearly turning into a strategic blunder, Trump is flailing.

He is clearly   lying to manipulate financial and oil commodity markets   in an attempt to avoid full-on economic collapse—something experts say Trump can do for only so long before actual oil shortages lead to economic calamity.

He's also looking for scapegoats,   blaming   administration officials like Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, whom Trump said convinced him to start the war.

And it's all because Trump knows that the disaster of his own making is hurting his poll numbers and tanking his party's chances in the November midterms.

Trump's approval rating is at the lowest point of his second term,   according   to The New York Times' polling average, now standing at an abysmal—yet somehow too high—40%. His approval rating is 15 percentage points underwater, even worse than at the same point in his first term.

Polls also show that the decline in his job approval is largely due to the war and its negative economic impacts.

For example, a new Strength In Numbers/Verasight   survey   released Tuesday found that 58% of Americans think the war is a bad use of taxpayer dollars, with another 51% saying that the war is making the U.S. less safe.

Even worse for Trump is that the poll found 13% of people who voted for Trump in 2024 now regret that choice—a number that seems low but is actually a doomsday scenario if all of those voters either stay home or vote for Democrats in this year’s midterm elections. 

Ultimately, the war in Iran is a mess of Trump’s own making, and he’s desperate to avoid blame and punishment.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 months ago

The only worse outcome could have been if Iran sunk a couple US aircraft carriers. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 months ago

trump's original goal for his war on iran was to get the epstein scandal off the news cycle. he succeeded ...

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 months ago

The way many on the left have been talking, you would think that is what they are hoping for.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    8 months ago

There is no plan to replace the Iranian regime. There is no plan to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @2    8 months ago

And there never was.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Gsquared @2.1    8 months ago

And no one can have any confidence that this dysfunctional, dystopian administration has the first clue as how to explain, much less extricate itself from the self-inflicted crisis.

Though some will still defend the dangers, deflect to others, and dismiss the reality.

Unconscionable. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Gsquared @2.1    8 months ago

Does anyone doubt Trump will declare that re-opening the Strait Of Hormuz is a major victory. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    8 months ago

Trump could pick his nose and declare it a major victory.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3  Bob Nelson    8 months ago

The only thing "accomplished" is killing some high-level Iranian officials.

That's a scary precedent.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    8 months ago

He got 13 service members killed. Don;t forget that

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    8 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    8 months ago

How quickly it has gone from they have no goals to they are abandoning the goals they never had. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    8 months ago

And how much they are hoping for the failure of our military.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @4.1    8 months ago
they are hoping for the failure of our military.

Pointing out and being against an unnecessary war is far from 'hoping for the failure of our military".

You don't just waltz into a WAR without very compelling reasons and objectives, and sorry, keeping the Epstein Files out of the news is not asufficient reason.

 
 

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