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3-time Trump-voting MAGA musician: 'Demented' president is a 'psychopath'

  
Via:  John Russell  •  7 months ago  •  24 comments

By:   Nick Hilden (Alternet. org)

3-time Trump-voting MAGA musician: 'Demented' president is a 'psychopath'
In recent years, the Thomas Paine Band has written songs declaring loyalty to President Donald Trump with titles like "M.A.G.A. We Love the U.S.A." But now, Trump's actions in regard to Iran have the act asserting that he is a "demented" "psychopath" turned "dictator."The band posted this assertion ...

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In recent years, the Thomas Paine Band has written songs declaring loyalty to President Donald Trump with titles like "M.A.G.A. We Love the U.S.A." But now, Trump's actions in regard to Iran have the act asserting that he is a "demented" "psychopath" turned "dictator."

The band posted this assertion above a retweet from ABC reporter Rachel Scott, in which she revealed that in conversation with Trump, the president had suggested that he's "blowing up the whole country" if the Iranian regime fails to make a deal. According to Scott, when asked if anything was "off limits," Trump said "very little." As it has been widely reported, these and other statements from the president amount to threats to commit war crimes.

This, for many Trump supporters, has crossed a line.

"Every time Trump ran for President I voted for him," wrote the Thomas Paine Band. "But now Trump is either a psychopath, demented, blackmailed or under threat from the Netanyahu regime…Trump went from 'freeing the people of Iran' to threatening to kill 93 million civilians. War time is a serious and somber time. It's not the time for the President to s—— post and suddenly be the dictator Democrats accused him of being for all of these years."

The band, which once sang, "You're on the Trump train — peace, love, and a strong defense," is not alone in its disgust at the president's actions. High-profile figures from the MAGA movement like Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ann Coulter have come out against the war. MAGA comedians, musicians and other influencers are wondering, "What was I thinking?" And even Trump's own former officials have expressed dismay about the president's administration.

Many supported Trump previously due to his assertions that his "America First" stance would keep the U.S. out of more Middle Eastern quagmires, but as he wades the country deeper into conflict with Iran, he is losing voters who have remained loyal for a decade now.

"Why do you think Trump," asked the Thomas Paine Band, "is suddenly doing the opposite of what he promised his voters?"


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    7 months ago

I wonder how many tens of millions of Americans now think Trump is a mental case. Who in authority is doing anything about it? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @1    7 months ago

Look around at Trump supporters posting right here today.   Even after Trump's crude, irrational, unhinged threat of war crimes yesterday.   Nothing, John, nothing is going to get them to break free of whatever cultist tie is in place.   It is dangerous that cult-like behavior can be in effect for so many.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    7 months ago
 It is dangerous that cult-like behavior can be in effect for so many.

I think we have a few hard cases here. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Silent
1.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    7 months ago

”…nothing is going to get them to break free of whatever cultist tie is in place.”

“How often it is that the angry man rages denial of what his inner self is telling him.”
 ~ Frank Herbert

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.3  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    7 months ago

Some folk are just slow learners.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @1    7 months ago
I wonder how many tens of millions of Americans now think Trump is a mental case.

Probably a few.  The secondary question for another day is what percent of them are mental cases, as well.

The question I really want answered is from these people who were all gung ho before and are now somehow disillusioned.  How are you surprised?  Seriously?  What, precisely, did you expect when you voted for him?  

This seems to me the equivalent of being shocked that your pet alligator ate the dog.  What part of any of this is unexpected?

Personally, when he won in 2016, I didn't think we'd make it to June of 2017 without a war.  My only surprise is that it's taken as long as it has.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2    7 months ago

Guess how many here think that all Trump supporters are insane just like the insane fool they support.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  cjcold @1.2.1    7 months ago
Guess how many here think that all Trump supporters are insane just like the insane fool they support.

There is probably going to be some level of overlap between that group and the people who struggle to understand that refusal to make Trump hatred a primary personality trait does not actually constitute support for him.

I like to think most people aren't complete morons, and I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible, so I remain hopeful that group is still small.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    7 months ago

Trump is giving another psychotic press conference right now. 

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Remember when they pretended to care about the Iranian people
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    7 months ago
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Trump: Iran was a great country if you go back 25 years ago.
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That would have been Year 22 of the 47-year US-Iran War.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    7 months ago
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Trump: "The entire country could be taken out in one night. And that night might be tomorrow night."
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    7 months ago
"Why do you think Trump," asked the Thomas Paine Band, "is suddenly doing the opposite of what he promised his voters?"

Because he's demented

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    7 months ago
Because he's demented

I think the real answer is that he lied. He lied to his base, he lied to his wives, he lied to his banks, he lied to the IRS, he lied to his friends, he lied to his spiritual advisor, and he lied to the American people. He's just a fucking opportunistic liar who does and says whatever is convenient for him at the time. How his base doesn't see that he's just using them is kind of sad because it's so fucking obvious.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    7 months ago

they're demented, too. And stupid

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    7 months ago

Trump blubbered some nonsense about Iran at the White House childrens Easter egg roll. 

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JohnRussell
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4.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    7 months ago
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While fielding questions during the annual White House Easter Egg Roll Monday, President Donald Trump  again threatened to commit war crimes  in Iran and suggested he'd like to steal the country’s oil — all with the Easter bunny and first lady Melania Trump awkwardly looking on nearby.

Donald Trump threatens war crimes as Easter Bunny awkwardly looks on

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.2  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    7 months ago

Fuck the Thomas Payne Band! They finally woke up?! The SOBs  were fools for Trump until just now? Wish this bassist could bitch slap every one of these fools for being forever fascists!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  cjcold @4.2    7 months ago

I never even heard of them until now

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.1    7 months ago

popular maga artists are almost always has-been's or never will be's ...

lee greendick, kid suck, and a handful of other country cow flop goober crooners ...

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
5  freepress    7 months ago

His press announcement he would move to Venezuela and said he can run for President there. What??? That's crazy, stone cold bats@#%t crazy.

It sounds like he knows he is burnt toast and was openly saying how he intended to escape America and escape an election loss. Maybe that's why he went after Venezuela as one of his first targets.

Everything he's posted or said since Friday before Easter has been absolutely off the rails. 

Astounding that an extremist MAGA like MTG is just openly sounding alarm bells.

Rogan and right wing pod crew are also sounding the alarms. 

What is just so incredibly sad is they are coming around too late and give meager credit to Democrats or any one considered a "lefty" who have openly been sounding the alarms ever since this loony rich reality show host popped up in politics and ran for office.

His own family knows he is a very sick man but to keep their own money and position didn't want to cross him for fear of retaliation.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  seeder  JohnRussell    7 months ago

Trump said today that he set the deadline before he bombs Iran back into the Stone Age for Tuesday because he says it would be inappropriate to do it the day after Easter. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.1  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @6    7 months ago

How thoughtful.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @6.1    7 months ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  seeder  JohnRussell    7 months ago
@atrupar
Trump: "You know who else didn't help us? South Korea didn't help us. We've got 45,000 soldiers in South Korea to protect them from Kim Jong Un, who I get along with very well. He said very nice things about me. He used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person."
 
 

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