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An October Surprise?

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  6 years ago  •  91 comments


An October Surprise?
“My son did nothing wrong at Burisma. He doesn’t want to let me answer because he knows I have the truth,” Joe Biden said. “His position has been totally, thoroughly discredited -- by the media, by our allies, by the World Bank, by everyone.”

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Joe Biden has always denied knowledge of his son's involvement with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.  The media has been (as always) very generous to Biden and he has been able to walk away from what should be a serious matter. However recent developments have placed the issue at the forefront of the election. Last night in Iowa, the President made it the topic of his campaign rally.

The story:

"The owner of a Delaware computer repair store where a man he believes was Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop that allegedly contained emails detailing an opportunity for a meeting between former Vice President  Joe Biden  and a top Burisma executive and other "disturbing" items, told Fox News on Wednesday that he was frightened by what he saw.
The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. The Wilmington shop owner said he contacted the FBI out of concern, but declined to specify what he meant."

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John Paul Mac Isaac, the owner of a Delaware computer repair store where Hunter Biden allegedly dropped off laptops in April 2019.  (Jacqui Heinrich/Fox News Channel)

"Isaac’s claim that the laptop in question belonged to Hunter Biden has yet to be substantiated. Isaac told the  New York Post , which first published the emails earlier Wednesday, that he determined it was Hunter Biden because the laptop had a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, which is named after his late older brother.

“I just don't know what to say, or what I'm allowed to say,” Isaac said. “I know that I saw, I saw stuff. And I was concerned. I was concerned that somebody might want to come looking for this stuff eventually and I wanted it out of my shop.”

When asked, Isaac, whose social media posts indicate is a supporter of President Trump, rejected the possibility that the laptop did not belong to Hunter Biden and was an attempt to set him up.

“If I'm somebody that has no journalistic ability, no detective ability or investigative ability and I was able to find stuff in a short period of time, somebody else should have been able to find something to show,” Isaac said.

In September, he contacted an intermediary about the emails. The intermediary then contacted the FBI.

Isaac said the intermediary is an American citizen who he has known for decades, but declined to provide further details about their identity."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac

The New York Post also published photos of a Delaware federal subpoena that detailed the FBI's seizure of a laptop and hard drive.

There lies the proof or disproof of this story. The FBI claims it will neither confirm or deny details of an ongoing investigation. An ongoing investigation?  And how long was Chris Wray's FBI going to keep this thing quiet?  And how long is the investigation? Until after the election, perhaps?



The coverup:


Also of note were the actions of Facebook and Twitter which rushed to delete any data on the story. One even closed the account of the President's Press Secretary. It's long past time to take their power to censor away.

So how do Twitter & Facebook have Section 230 protections when only yesterday they blocked the NY Post story and today are blocking access to US government websites?

The honorable Senator Ted Cruz intends to do something about it:


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"Twitter Censorship of Damaging Hunter Biden New York Post Story 'Obvious' Attempt to Influence Election".. ..Sen Ted Cruz.

Good luck Senator. All the powers in the msm (and maybe the FBI) are aligned to protect Joe Biden.


Question:  How does a family headed up by a teacher and a public servant all become multi-millionaires?





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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Will we be able to verify this story before Nov 3rd?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    6 years ago

Something is still rotten in the swamp ....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @2    6 years ago

Thus far, the Biden camp has not conceded the authenticity of the hard-drive materials, including the emails.   A Biden spokesman claims that, according to Biden’s official schedule, he never met with the Burisma official. Obviously, that does not prove that the meeting did not happen, any more than the email, by itself and without more authentication, proves beyond a doubt that it did happen.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    6 years ago

This will be the least impactful October surprise of all time. 

Why would that be?  Well first of all there is no indication that anyone outside of the Trump personality cult cares at all about this story, or any story about Joe Biden and Ukraine. 

Secondly, everyone knows that Trump is the most personally corrupt president in American history and whatever Biden did or didnt do can't ever reach the level of Trump's crooked behavior. You think voters will punish Joe Biden for what Donald Trump has done a hundred times?     lol. 

Thirdly, voters know that Trump is not fit for office and it is time for him to go. No Biden scandal could ever change that. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago
first of all there is no indication that anyone outside of the Trump personality cult cares at all about this story, or any story about Joe Biden and Ukraine. 

Of course not. This comes to mind..........

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Vic Eldred
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3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago
everyone knows

Everyone knows is how Prava used to begin one of their unproven claims. Does anyone remember that?

Why would Facebook & Twitter rush to cover for a candidate with what is supposedly an insurmountable lead?

What has the FBI been doing with this material?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago
This will be the least impactful October surprise of all time. 

Lol .... better keep your fingers crossed John ....

This is going to blow and blow big on Biden if true.  

This will make the Dean scream or the Dukakis tank ride look like a walk in the park

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago
Why would that be?  Well first of all there is no indication that anyone outside of the Trump personality cult cares at all about this story, or any story about Joe Biden and Ukraine. 

Well, gee John...can you tell us why Facebook, Twitter, and the MSM in general are frantically attempting to suppress this story?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.5.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3.5.1    6 years ago

Nonsense

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.5.4  Snuffy  replied to  Greg Jones @3.5    6 years ago

and now I just read that Twitter locked the official Trump Campaign account...  They still allow Iran to tweet "Death to Israel" but they lock down accounts based on a news story from a mainstream newspaper?  damn...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.5.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Snuffy @3.5.4    6 years ago

Yep..................could they be any more transparent? HAYULL no

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.5.6  Jasper2529  replied to  Snuffy @3.5.4    6 years ago
and now I just read that Twitter locked the official Trump Campaign account

Twitter also locked Kayleigh McEnany's account yesterday, because she shared the NY Post articles. 

Both Twitter and Facebook have banned their users from sharing NY Post articles about Hunter/Joe Biden's involvement receiving money for influence with Ukraine and China, and that's a direct violation of the First Amendment. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    6 years ago
The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. The Wilmington shop owner said he contacted the FBI out of concern, but declined to specify what he meant."

What nonsense. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4    6 years ago

It had a sticker on it from the Beau Biden Foundation and had pics of Hunter. It makes no difference whatsoever who dropped it off. FFS John.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    6 years ago

Then why is computer guy lying about it? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    6 years ago

PROVE IT!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    6 years ago

He can't....as usual.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    6 years ago
It had a sticker on it from the Beau Biden Foundation and had pics of Hunter.

That's not proof that it was Hunter's. But hey, you convinced me, I won't vote for Hunter. I'll vote for his dad though. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    6 years ago
The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair.

Correct, he's practically blind and admitted that he could not identify Hunter Biden as the customer. But the Post says the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation — named after Hunter’s brother (the vice president’s older son, who is deceased). On the computer’s hard drive, in addition to the emails, were photos and other materials that appear to belong to Hunter. These include what the Post describes as a “raunchy” video, allegedly depicting Hunter smoking crack and engaged in a sex act with an unidentified woman. Gee, that sounds like our Hunter. Btw all of it was supposedly subpoenaed by a federal grand jury in December 17, 2019.  So why haven't we heard about this?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2    6 years ago
Correct, he's practically blind and admitted that he could not identify Hunter Biden as the customer.

If he's practically blind how does he work on computers ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    6 years ago

I think he has a device which allows him to do that.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    6 years ago

Lots of light and lots of magnification.

Seriously, i have a friend who is legally blind, can only recognize you by your voice but still reads the newspaper.   When he is done, he has ink on nose because he has to hold it that close.

Try again John.   Legally blind people can work all sorts of jobs like this.   Not that he ever said he was legally blind .....

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    6 years ago

He has computer techs for that.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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4.2.5  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    6 years ago
If he's practically blind how does he work on computers ? 

Who said that the owner does the actual work on computers? People DO have employees, you know. Sheesh.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Cruz announces the Senate Judiciary Committee will vote to subpoena Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, for blocking the story.

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Snuffy
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9.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    6 years ago

Good.  Regardless of the validity of the story (it still needs investigation and verification and we need to hear from the FBI), Twitter & Facebook (and any others) need to answer for the interference in an election which this really is.  It's not just the blocking of a story to protect one side of the political spectrum, it's the locking of the primary twitter account for one campaign with only 18 days left before the vote. I find it hard to understand why both political parties are not up in arms over this type of interference in a political campaign and election.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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9.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Snuffy @9.1    6 years ago
Twitter & Facebook (and any others) need to answer for the interference in an election which this really is.

They are private companies who can choose to be as partisan as they want to be. In this case they were simply refusing to allow their platforms to be used to disseminate unproven conspiracy theories that were intended to interfere in the election just 18 days before the vote.

I find it hard to understand why both political parties are not up in arms over this type of interference in a political campaign and election.

I find it hard to believe there are still conservative Republicans gullible enough to buy these total horse shit conspiracy theories. But then I see them shoveling mountains of bullshit into their mouths from bogus sources like Qanon and I figure they must have just developed a taste for it. Being mad at a private company because they won't host dangerous horse shit conspiracy theories says more about the ones angered than it does about the private companies.

Are you angered at Breitbart for not pushing for Trump to release his taxes or to at least allow their platform to be used to "inform" their readers about the possible tax evasion and bank fraud of the President? Let's stop pretending that Twitter and Facebook have to kneel to conservative Republicans while right wing conservative media rejects any and all input from the left.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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9.1.2  Snuffy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.1.1    6 years ago

Kneel to Republicans?  hell, I just want them treated equally as they treat with Democrats.  Or are you going to try to tell me you would not be questioning their motives if they were locking accounts for the Democratic party, the Biden campaign, etc...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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9.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Snuffy @9.1.2    6 years ago
I just want them treated equally

They are. No content is being removed simply because it's Republican and there are plenty of Republican content that's never been blocked. The decision not to allow their site to be used for some claims is because of the content, not the political party. They are refusing to be a platform to spread misinformation, lies and conspiracy theories regardless of which party is trying to spread them. It just happens that currently conservatives Republicans are more prolific with the amount of bullshit they try to spread and thus find themselves getting censored or removed.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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9.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.1.3    6 years ago

sorry no,  your partisanship is showing. They allowed the Comey story to be posted when he "reopened" the Clinton email investigation when they found those emails on Weiners laptop, they allowed the Russian collusion stories to be retweeted and posted..  This is a story from an established newspaper. It needs to be investigated and verified to be sure, but it's hypocrisy at it's finest to allow stories that are critical of Trump but lock down accounts for posting stories critical of Biden. And the fact that you can argue what they are doing is ok simply shows you refuse to actually discuss the issue and just revert to your partisan politics.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Snuffy @9.1    6 years ago
I find it hard to understand why both political parties are not up in arms over this type of interference in a political campaign and election.

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I don't know, the right wing has been ignoring it for years...as long as it helps them. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    6 years ago
Cruz announces the Senate Judiciary Committee will vote to subpoena Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, for blocking the story.

Nice to see Cruz embracing socialism. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Biden campaign lashes out at New York Post

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"Joe Biden’s campaign is punching back at a New York Post story that alleged a direct link between the Democratic presidential nominee and his son's business dealings.

Top Biden advisers who staffed him during his vice presidency, citing their own recollections as well as a review of Biden’s official schedules, sharply rejected the Post’s suggestion that Biden met with a representative of Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2015. And social media companies throttled sharing of the article on their platforms, fueling complaints from conservatives that information critical of the Bidens was being censored."

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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11  Hal A. Lujah    6 years ago

If this were true, which to any thinking person it is not, it would be outweighed by Trump‘s resume of infamy by 1,000 times.  It’s still kind of entertaining watching the fringe nutjobs here spin it with wild abandon though.  Thanks guys!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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12  Sparty On    6 years ago

Crazy times we are living in to be sure

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

As an old girlfriend once said "I can see how this gonna go!"  My prediction: Rudy Giuliani is in possession of the hard drive and he is going to release e-mails in a drip by drip fashion for the next few weeks.  Senator Ron Johnson is set on revisiting the matter of Hunter Biden and it looks like he wants to know what the FBI has done with this computer, in their possession since December of 2019, approx.11 months ago.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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14  MrFrost    6 years ago

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Vic Eldred
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15  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

On NBC's town hall Donald Trump just denounced "white supremacy' for the zillionth time.

That was the predictable question that Sarah Guthrie (wife of Al Gore's former chief of staff) chose to ask.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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16  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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17  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

I can see it is time for a drink.

Have a good night all.


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