Trump: Vaccines Took Place on My Watch

  
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By:   Brian Freeman

Trump: Vaccines Took Place on My Watch
President Donald Trump sent out a tweet on Monday to take credit for the news. “Another Vaccine just announced. This time by Moderna, 95% effective,” the president wrote. “For those great ‘historians’, please remember that these great discoveries, which will end the China Plague, all took place on my watch!"

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Following the announcement by Moderna that its experimental vaccine was 94.5% effective in preventing coronavirus based on interim data from a late-stage clinical trial, President Donald Trump sent out a tweet on Monday to take credit for the news.

“Another Vaccine just announced. This time by Moderna, 95% effective,” the president wrote. “For those great ‘historians’, please remember that these great discoveries, which will end the China Plague, all took place on my watch!"

The Trump administration awarded, as part of "Operation Warp Speed," a $1.5 billion contract to Moderna in August to develop and deliver at least 100 million vaccine doses, the Blaze reported.

Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel said the Trump administration was a key part of accelerating the company's progress in developing the vaccine.

However, World Health Organization head Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned that “A vaccine on its own, will not end the pandemic,” Forbes reported.

He stressed that while this should hopefully relieve pressure on healthcare systems and reduce deaths, “the virus will still have a lot (of) room to move,” adding that “We still have a long road to travel.”

Tedros said that even with a vaccine, it will be crucial to continue measures currently being used such as contact tracing, testing, surveillance, and isolating cases, as well as encouraging communities and individuals to be careful.

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MAGA
1  seeder  MAGA    3 weeks ago

“Another Vaccine just announced. This time by Moderna, 95% effective,” the president wrote. “For those great ‘historians’, please remember that these great discoveries, which will end the China Plague, all took place on my watch!"

The Trump administration awarded, as part of "Operation Warp Speed," a $1.5 billion contract to Moderna in August to develop and deliver at least 100 million vaccine doses, the Blaze reported.

Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel said the Trump administration was a key part of accelerating the company's progress in developing the vaccine.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  MAGA @1    3 weeks ago
The Trump administration awarded, as part of "Operation Warp Speed," a $1.5 billion contract to Moderna in August to develop and deliver at least 100 million vaccine doses, the Blaze reported.

Last January drug manufacturers announced it would take between 12 and 18 months to develop and produce a new vaccine.  While Trump has repeatedly stated that a vaccine was ready "any week now".

"Operation Warp Speed" appears to be delivering a vaccine in the same timeline that was stated, PRIOR to "Operation Warp Speed".  Once again Trump trying to take credit for something has hasn't done.

 
 
 
lady in black
2  lady in black    3 weeks ago

240,000 Plus Americans DEAD on his watch

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  lady in black @2    3 weeks ago

Yes! 

 
 
 
Kavika
2.2  Kavika   replied to  lady in black @2    3 weeks ago

Bingo

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.1  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @2.2    3 weeks ago

How many cases would we have if Trump wasn’t president?I can answer you don’t know  so yours is a opinion not a fact and everyone knows opinions are like well you know the rest.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.2.2  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @2.2.1    3 weeks ago

According to experts we could have saved tens of thousands of lives, of course there are just experts and don't have your expertise. 

Cheers

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.3  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Either do you what expert are you referring to?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.2.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  MUVA @2.2.3    2 weeks ago
I know you hate President Trump

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MAGA
2.3  seeder  MAGA  replied to  lady in black @2    3 weeks ago

Could have been 2,000,000 had he not acted.  

 
 
 
lady in black
2.3.1  lady in black  replied to  MAGA @2.3    3 weeks ago

240,000 Plus and climbing DEAD Americans on orange conman's watch.  I guess you don't care as much as you cared about the Americans killed in Benghazi that had the right up in arms. So why do you give orange conman a pass on 240,000 plus DEAD Americans.  I know, I know, orange conman walks on water

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  MAGA @2.3    3 weeks ago

and just what was it that he did to stop the spread actually going to 2M? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  lady in black @2.3.1    3 weeks ago

Because it pisses us off. That's the only reason. MAGA even said so to me

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MAGA @2.3    3 weeks ago

He didn't act.  The drug companies did.  One already had to call him out publicly when he and Pence were going to take credit for their vaccine.

 
 
 
lady in black
2.3.5  lady in black  replied to  MAGA @2.3    3 weeks ago

Would have been LESS if he HAD ACTED SOONER, but once again, you don't care about the dead Americans under his watch.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.6  Bob Nelson  replied to  lady in black @2.3.5    3 weeks ago
you don't care about the dead Americans under his watch.

Exactly 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3.4    3 weeks ago

Can you imagine trmp and Pence with goggles, and white lab coats, standing over bunsen burners and Erlenmeyer flasks pretending that they're scientists on the search for the cure?

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.8  seeder  MAGA  replied to  lady in black @2.3.5    3 weeks ago

He did act early and often.  I care much more about China and their role in it happening in the first place, taking steps to spread it to the world, hoarding PPE’s and masks, etc.  I blame them for every covid 19 death everywhere in the world.  

 
 
 
lady in black
2.3.9  lady in black  replied to  MAGA @2.3.8    3 weeks ago

NO, he did NOT act early enough. He knew how DEADLY this virus is and KEPT it to himself.  All those deaths are ON HIM and you give him a pass on all those deaths. [removed]

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  MAGA @2.3.8    3 weeks ago

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.11  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MAGA @2.3.8    3 weeks ago

hoarding PPE’s and masks

Maybe you don't remember when junior threw a hissy because states got equipment and said "It's not the state's equipment.  It's our equipment."  In Trumpspeak, that meant "It is for sale to the highest bidder and screw the Americans here who needed it."  He acted so early that the WH is now a pitrie dish, his own damned wife and son getting it.  Please don't bring up that bs about Trump's baring entry to Chinese nationals helped.  He didn't stop people other than Chinese nationals from entry here which meant plane loads of infected panicky people came home to infect others.  If he did so fucking good with the CV then why does the US have the highest infection rate than every other country?  He called it a hoax, suggested ingesting bleach, listened to quacks and other cons, dismisses the science, ignored the experts, throws out the pandemic playbook for no other reason than it had Obama's name on it, and has tied the hands of the professionals.  Then Ivanka gets a patent for respirators from China that did not function properly.  He admitted that he downplayed and would continue to do so in a taped interview.  His only act early and often is that in the role of a POTUS.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
2.3.12  SteevieGee  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.10    3 weeks ago

Like a golf ball in the woods.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.13  Bob Nelson  replied to  SteevieGee @2.3.12    3 weeks ago

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Snuffy
2.3.14  Snuffy  replied to  MAGA @2.3    3 weeks ago

They do like to ignore everything that the federal government has done.  

And as been pointed out numerous times,  the power of the President is limited by law. The President cannot lock down a state, cannot mandate facial masks, cannot do a lot of things.  Trump could have messaged things better by talking to the American public about safety measures they need to take. But the entire process was politicized right from the start and once one side starts to attack via politics everything seems to go out the window.

While the administration was involved early on (regardless of what people want to say) we didn't hear a lot of it because it couldn't be used as clickbait by MSM so there was no money in talking about it. After the political fighting of the prior three years to think that a pandemic is going to get MSM to rethink their approach is insane. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.15  Bob Nelson  replied to  Snuffy @2.3.14    3 weeks ago

While the administration was involved early on (regardless of what people want to say) 

 
 
 
Snuffy
2.3.16  Snuffy  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.15    3 weeks ago

While I'm willing to admit that President Trump misled people by all the downplaying of the pandemic and that President Trump has a terrible way of speaking in public where he speaks off the cuff,  are you at least willing to admit that President Trump did do positive acts like Warp Speed and all the times the defense act was engaged to manufacture PPE & ventalators?  Or can you only broad-brush your response?

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.17  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Snuffy @2.3.16    3 weeks ago

Not to mention all the field hospitals, the hospital ships, the persons to staff them, the combined 45 day shutdown to slow the spread as well.  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.18  Bob Nelson  replied to  Snuffy @2.3.16    3 weeks ago
are you at least willing to admit that President Trump did do positive acts like Warp Speed and all the times the defense act was engaged to manufacture PPE & ventalators? 

There is no indication that Trump's executive orders in this area had any effect at all. The companies involved were flat-out, regardless of the President's hand-waving. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
2.3.19  Snuffy  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.18    2 weeks ago

You may want to look deeper at what has happened thru HHS with regards to Operation Warp Speed.

For example:

March:
$456M to Johnson & Johnson on March.

April:
$483M to Moderna for support on Phase 1 trials.

May:
$1.2B to AstraZenaca's candidate.

July:
$450M to Regeneron to support large-scale manufacturing
$1.6B to Novavax to support large-scale manufacturing of their vaccine candidate.
$1.95B to Pfizer for large-scale manufacturing of 100 million doses.

August:
$1B to Johnson & Johnson to support large-scale manufacturing and delivery of 100 million doses of their vaccine.
$1.5B to Maderna to support large-scale manufacturing and deliver of 100 million doses of their vaccine.

Advancing money in July and August for the manufacturing of vaccines well before testing was completed, all to try to speed a successful vaccine to the people. Even CNN commented on this recently where it's just unprecedented to have a vaccine delivered this quickly, the normal process takes years in part because a company is not going to commit money to manufacturing before the vaccine is proven and approved. 

In addition the U.S. Military is taking the lead in managing shipment and delivery.  All of this, and more, came from President Trump's executive orders.

I know you hate President Trump, that's fine, that's your right. Hell,  I don't like everything he says or does. I've had the same reaction to every president I've voted for and those elected who I didn't vote for,  I like some of the things they do and don't like some of the other things they do. That's life. I just try to be not so locked into an opinion.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.20  Bob Nelson  replied to  Snuffy @2.3.19    2 weeks ago

The Trump Administration gave billions of dollars to Big Pharma. Gosh.  The Trump Administration lives to give billions of dollars to Big Business.

Do you really think that these companies would have worked more slowly without that money?

As for having military resources at work... well, duh...

......

I know you hate President Trump...

Absolutely false. I hate no one.

I despise Trump's actions and his general behavior... but I never "hate" a person I do not know.

You are intellectually dishonest to presume to know my feelings without asking me.

 
 
 
Snuffy
2.3.21  Snuffy  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.20    2 weeks ago
Do you really think that these companies would have worked more slowly without that money?

Do you really think that we might have vaccines delivered AND injected into people possibly before the end of the year if Big Pharma had to do this all on their own?  

As for your apparent disdain for military resources,  the U.S. Military is very well versed in the field of logistics and is very well set up to handle the management of this distribution with minimal issues. Or would you have been happier if one of Trump's cronies took the lead for this in order to rake in millions in government contracts?  

Absolutely false. I hate no one.

I despise Trump'sactionsand his generalbehavior... but I never "hate" apersonI do not know.

Youare intellectually dishonest to presume to know my feelings without asking me.

You're right,  I don't know your feels and in the future will attempt to be more honest with you. All I know about you is what you post on these boards and from my interpretation of  your words I thought you hated Trump. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.22  Bob Nelson  replied to  Snuffy @2.3.21    2 weeks ago
Do you really think that we might have vaccines delivered AND injected into people possibly before the end of the year if Big Pharma had to do this all on their own?

Yes, I do think so.

Big Pharma is looking at many, many billions of dollars when they start selling their vaccines. Their everyday greed is powerful enough... they need no further incentive.

It's just gravy.

 
 
 
Snuffy
2.3.23  Snuffy  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.22    2 weeks ago

I agree that they will make many billions of dollars from this, and their stock values will also continue to increase.  But I disagree that they would have thought about starting the mass manufacturing process before testing in Phase 2 had even been completed. Normally vaccines take years to produce because of all the hurdles the FDA has in place and the displeasure of shareholders to take an expense before there is any indication of efficacy which means return on the investment. But President Trump's EO removed the roadblocks and forced the FDA to work hand in hand quickly with big pharma and also provided billions of dollars to start the mass manufacturing well before it would have been known if the vaccine was safe and effective to use. This is what Operation WarpSpeed has brought to the table, treatments and vaccines delivered well before a normal timeline if the companies had to do this all on their own. If you cannot see that then I'm afraid you are allowing  your feelings to cloud your judgement.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.24  Bob Nelson  replied to  Snuffy @2.3.23    2 weeks ago

Every pharma was on the fast track. A dozen around the world. Speed was essential. For the companies.

 
 
 
bugsy
2.3.25  bugsy  replied to  lady in black @2.3.1    2 weeks ago
240,000 Plus and climbing DEAD Americans on orange conman's watch. 

So then you agree that every COVID death from January 20th on is Biden's fault because they happened under his watch.

Might as well cue up the impeachment now.

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.26  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.3.25    2 weeks ago

Every COVID-19 death from Jan 20th on will be 'on Biden's watch'.

Objective and honest people will realize that it will take time for his policies to go into effect and will hold off blaming him.

Partisans will start blaming him on the 20th.

I recommend objective, honest analysis over partisan 'thinking'.

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.27  seeder  MAGA  replied to  bugsy @2.3.25    2 weeks ago

Impeach Biden now!  

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.28  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @2.3.27    2 weeks ago

Foolish partisanship.

 
 
 
bugsy
2.3.29  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.26    2 weeks ago
Objective and honest people will realize that it will take time for his policies to go into effect and will hold off blaming him.

Unfortunately Trump did not get that courtesy by the left. He was attacked for everything he did and did not do even before he was inaugurated.

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.30  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.3.29    2 weeks ago

Irrelevant.

The right thing to do is independent of bad behavior by others.  

Is it honest and correct to immediately blame Biden on Jan 20th for all deaths that occur after he is sworn in or should we give a grace period so that he has a chance to at least act before being blamed?

 
 
 
Gazoo
2.3.31  Gazoo  replied to  bugsy @2.3.29    2 weeks ago

Here’s how it will go, bugsy, everything good that happens during biden’s short presidency will be because of him. Everything bad will be trump’s fault. Count on it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.32  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.3.31    2 weeks ago

One certainty about partisans is that they will blame all bad on the other party and accept credit for all good for their party.

It does not matter if we are talking D or R, this pattern is obvious and demonstrable.

Partisan 'thinking' is irrational.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.33  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.32    2 weeks ago

Both sides do it? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.34  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.33    2 weeks ago

Are you asking me if there are D partisans and R partisans?

Yes, I believe there are.    In fact I am confident that  D and R partisans exist in impressive numbers who follow the party line and carry the party water no matter what and who believe most every position held by their party is correct and most everything claimed by the other party is wrong.

I observe this every day.   Am I hallucinating?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.35  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.34    2 weeks ago
One certainty about partisans is that they will blame all bad on the other party and accept credit for all good for their party.

Do you see this as symmetrical?

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.36  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.35    2 weeks ago

Bob, one of the debate themes I truly hate is the:  sure, both sides are guilty but they are far more guilty than us.

Not going to engage on this.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.37  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.36    2 weeks ago

That fence can get painful if you sit on it too long...

"Both sides do it" is wrong. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.38  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.37    2 weeks ago

I purposely told you that I do not want to engage on this.  The reason is because this is the kind of crap that always occurs.

The 'my side does it less than the other side' interlocutor declares that the acknowledgement of reality by the other necessarily means that the other is trying to straddle both sides;  to avoid being decisive; to play it 'safe';  to make some excuse.

That is offensive as hell.

Not welcome, Bob.

I noted the fact that there are R and D partisans; that partisanship comes with having a party.   The D partisans will claim that there are more R partisans and vice-versa.   Pointless, subjective debate.

 
 
 
Kathleen
2.3.39  Kathleen  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.33    2 weeks ago

Yes.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.3.40  Vic Eldred  replied to  MAGA @2.3.27    2 weeks ago
Impeach Biden now!  

“When word-finding problems are a part of normal aging, the problem happens occasionally in conversations and the word often ‘comes back’ after a few minutes,” says Kimberly Mueller, who studies age-related changes in speech and language patterns at the Alzheimer’s Disease Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison School of Medicine and Public Health. If these retrieval problems — using pronouns instead of names you can’t remember, for example, or peppering conversation with “ums” and “ahhs” as your brain struggles to find a word — become more frequent and disruptive, it could signal the mild cognitive impairment that may lead to Alzheimer’s disease dementia, Mueller says. The University of Wisconsin center is researching how and when the development of abnormal proteins linked to Alzheimer’s affect everyday speech."


 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.41  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.38    2 weeks ago

"Both sides do it" is wrong.

My side does do it less than the other side. That's fact. Anything else is denial. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.3.42  Vic Eldred  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.41    2 weeks ago
That's fact.

LMAO!

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.43  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.41    2 weeks ago

Argue your strawman with someone else.  

Reframing my comment into that lame platitude excuse is intellectually dishonest and insulting.

But, sure, Bob go ahead and now make me your opponent.

 
 
 
arkpdx
2.3.44  arkpdx  replied to  lady in black @2.3.5    2 weeks ago

Prove it!

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.45  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @2.3.44    2 weeks ago

She can’t prove any of the stuff she wrote in her post!  

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.46  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.28    2 weeks ago

Was impeach Trump now foolish partisanship 4 years running?  

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.47  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.37    2 weeks ago

You two arguing about how much blame for all that ills the world should be directed at Christian conservatives who support Trump is amuzing to read.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.48  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @2.3.46    2 weeks ago

Your argument is funny.   Clearly you hold that impeaching Trump was foolish partisanship.   So you tacitly admit that you are engaging in foolish partisanship.

Brilliant.

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.49  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.43    2 weeks ago

You two make fine opponents...

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.50  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.48    2 weeks ago

I was simply asking a question.  I didn’t say anything regarding the sanity of either side.  You’re the one who made it personal as usual with your tactics

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.51  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @2.3.50    2 weeks ago
I was simply asking a question.

A question in context.

And I broke down your question, revealing the underlying contradiction and presented it to you.   No rebuttal other than 'it was just a question ...'.  

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.52  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.51    2 weeks ago

You set the terms for exactly nothing in any conversation with me so get over yourself already!  

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.53  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @2.3.52    2 weeks ago

Another vacuous reply.

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.3.54  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.53    2 weeks ago

Another non-surprise too.

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.55  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @2.3.54    2 weeks ago

More meaningless drivel in reply to the advent of the Trump vaccine that will end Chinas virus.  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.56  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.43    2 weeks ago
make me your opponent

I wouldn't want that, so I'll drop it... for now. 

I don't understand your vehemence, here. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
2.3.57  arkpdx  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.48    2 weeks ago
impeaching Trump was foolish partisanship. 

It was!

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.3.58  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @2.3.55    one week ago
More meaningless drivel

You must be projecting. Thanks for proving TiG right!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

That quote at the beginning of your seed doesn't put him in a very good light

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 weeks ago

A super Nova would not provide enough light to do that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
4  TᵢG    3 weeks ago
“For those great ‘historians’, please remember that these great discoveries, which will end the China Plague, all took place on my watch!"

Can anyone spell narcissist?   How about psychotic narcissist?

What is important is defeating the virus, not Trump's legacy.   Trump's priorities are flipped and that is a key reason he lost the election.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @4    3 weeks ago
Can anyone spell narcissist?  

Donald John Trump

How about psychotic narcissist?

See above

 
 
 
MAGA
5  seeder  MAGA    3 weeks ago

Another reason we will not have a lockdown in January or February.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MAGA @5    3 weeks ago

You won't do it anyway, even if it means we can stop this thing.  I hope to god you have not lost anyone to CV.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1    3 weeks ago

Lockdowns are useless.  I will take the Trump vaccine. Though. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  MAGA @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
Lockdowns are useless.

That is the kind of stupidity that has brought American almost a quarter-million dead.

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Voting up multiple times:

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evilgenius
5.1.4  evilgenius  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.2    3 weeks ago
That is the kind of stupidity that has brought American almost a quarter-million dead.

Until they, or one of their own dies a miserable lonely death they will continue with the stupidity.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.5  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

There is science that backs me up and areas that went through the severe lockdowns were harder hit then and are now being hard hit again.  Precautions, social distancing and then the vaccine will get us through this.

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @5.1.5    3 weeks ago
There is science that backs me up ...

How can you argue science (biology) when this very same science is founded on evolution??   Do you not comprehend your contradiction as an evolution denier?

 
 
 
Kavika
5.1.7  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @5.1.5    3 weeks ago
There is science that backs me up

OMG, the irony of that statement.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  MAGA @5.1.5    3 weeks ago
There is science that backs me up... 

So... could you supply a link?

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.9  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

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MAGA
5.1.10  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.9    3 weeks ago

No but I do use mouthwash every day! 

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.1.11  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

What "science" backs you up? You've proven in the past your understanding of actual science is very limited and biased.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.12  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.11    2 weeks ago

Too many scientists and Doctors to count... 

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @5.1.12    2 weeks ago
Too many scientists and Doctors to count... 

So you've got nothing then? Got it!

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.13    2 weeks ago

I am shocked!

 
 
 
Kathleen
5.1.15  Kathleen  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Are you talking about locking everything down except for grocery stores, pet stores, pharmacies and doctors offices? 

How long?

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.1.16  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.14    2 weeks ago

I know, right?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.17  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen @5.1.15    2 weeks ago

As long as necessary to crush the curve. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
5.1.18  Kathleen  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.17    2 weeks ago

The reason why I asked is because a lot of people will lose their jobs. That means they cannot pay their bills. They will not be able to put food on the table. Not all people have extra money laying around to do this. It's easy to say close things down when you have the money, not everyone does.  How would you expect these people to survive? 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.19  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen @5.1.18    2 weeks ago
 a lot of people will lose their jobs. That means they cannot pay their bills. 

House Dems passed a relief bill months ago, and ever since have been pleading with the Republican Senate to do the same.

You're right that the people who are not allowed to work (and draw their pay) must be supported. 

The GOP refuses. The people must work. They must risk illness and death. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.19    2 weeks ago

Shame the Democrats are filibustering a relief bill in the senate that has majority support.  If Democrats cared about passing a relief bill, they’d plead with their own senators are blocking one.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.22  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

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Kathleen
5.1.23  Kathleen  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.19    2 weeks ago

Even if they did, (it must have been a reason why they didn't) it would not be enough to cover all the expenses. If you add up all the bills, they will be in trouble.  I don't think Biden wants to do that.  It's a tough situation.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.24  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen @5.1.23    2 weeks ago
 it would not be enough to cover all the expenses.

Why not? 

It's in our interest to prevent widespread bankruptcy, foreclosure, and so on. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
5.1.25  Kathleen  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.24    2 weeks ago

Lets see.

Mortgage or rent, food, health insurance, life insurance, phone, cable, doctors bills, homeowners or renters insurance, property tax, auto insurance, electricity and natural gas, water, car payment, garbage, student loans, childcare.... to name some.

You think that it will cover all these bills?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.26  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen @5.1.25    2 weeks ago
You think that it will cover all these bills?

It will cover whatever Congress decides. Trump's "greatest accomplishment" was his tax cut. That gave a trillion dollars to the already wealthy - to people who did not need it. 

So now let's give a trillion to the folks who really need it. 

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.27  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

That is the bottom line.  They are still too busy holding it hostage to Nancy Pelosi and her special interests.  

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.28  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.26    2 weeks ago

We already gave multiple trillions for that and can give more still just not as much and not for the priorities of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The only way for them to get all they want is to make real people suffer longer in the hopes that they can sweep both Georgia senate seats next year and 5150 their entire agenda.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
6  Gordy327    3 weeks ago

If a vaccine happened under Trump's watch, then that means Covid happened under his watch too. 

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6    3 weeks ago

Because Trump caused China to allow the virus to come into being in the first place.  Then he made the Chinese cover it up from the rest of the world, use the WHO in the process, made them refuse foreign help to contain it, made them allow people from wuhan who couldn’t go anywhere in China fly all over the world.  Then he made China fly millions of their citizens to America.  Then Trump went all over America as an avenging angel of death and personally killed each and every American who did of China virus.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @6.1    2 weeks ago

I'm glad you agree it's Trumps fault.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.2  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

The bi coastal fascist progressives blame Trump while real Americans blame China.  

 
 
 
lady in black
6.1.3  lady in black  replied to  MAGA @6.1.2    2 weeks ago

I am a REAL American, and I blame trump for not taking it serious enough/knowing full well how dangerous it is.  He is responsible for 250,000 dead Americans

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @6.1.2    2 weeks ago

More like blame Trump for his dismal response to it.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.5  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.4    2 weeks ago

There was no dismal response to it at the federal level.  All the dismal results and actions occurred in blue mayor cities and blue governor states.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
6.1.6  pat wilson  replied to  MAGA @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
The bi coastal fascist progressives

Palm Beach ? Mar a Lago ? the Villages ? Those bi coastal fascist progressives ?

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.7  seeder  MAGA  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.6    2 weeks ago

Nope.  Just from Eureka to Los Angeles on the west coast and Alexandria to Portland in the east

 
 
 
JBB
6.1.8  JBB  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.6    2 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
6.1.9  Bob Nelson  replied to  MAGA @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
The bi coastal fascist progressives... 

As opposed to insular antiifa retrogrades ...

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Your descriptions are like a Chinese menu - one adjective from column A, one from column B, ... 

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @6.1.5    2 weeks ago
There was no dismal response to it at the federal level.

Then you haven't been paying attention. Or just kept your head buried in the sand.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.11  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.10    2 weeks ago

No, I actually have documentation of all that’s been done.  

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.12  seeder  MAGA  replied to  JBB @6.1.8    2 weeks ago

1968 when democrats had all the power 

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @6.1.11    2 weeks ago

And there is documentation of continuously rising cases and deaths. The numbers dont lie. At best, clearly not enough has been done.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.14  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.13    2 weeks ago

Once the Trump vaccine is fully distributed to the American people, this China exported curse will be over and the progress toward that is happening as we speak.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.15  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @6.1.14    2 weeks ago
Once the Trump vaccine is fully distributed to the American people, this China exported curse will be over and the progress toward that is happening as we speak.  

I see you're dodging the point. But it's disingenuous to call the vaccine the "Trump vaccine," as Trump didn't make it. It is the pharmaceutical companies that produce and distribute the vaccine. So they provide the nomenclature. If one is being honest, then we can generically name the vaccine the "Pfizer vaccine" or the "Moderna vaccine," or whichever company provides it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.15    2 weeks ago

Trump didn't create the virus, but it sure doesn't stop some left-wing nuts from claiming it is the Trump Virus.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.17  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.15    2 weeks ago
then we can generically name the vaccine the "Pfizer vaccine" or the "Moderna vaccine," or whichever company provides it.

No, we won't. It was President Trump's operation warp speed that enabled the scientists to get it done within the year.

It is the Trump vaccine, now & forever!


The FDA is waiting until Dec 10th to authorize it. Big Pharma ran ads against the President during the 2020 campaign. The same President who lowered inflated drug prices in the US. Pfizer waited until the election was over until announcing it would be first to development and even falsely claimed they received no federal funding. The Biden campaign tried to destroy the public's trust in any vaccine produced under the Trump administration.

I think a lot of people should be ashamed of themselves.

 
 
 
arkpdx
6.1.18  arkpdx  replied to  MAGA @6.1.7    2 weeks ago

Don't forget Havana on the Willamette (Portland, Oregon) or Pyongyang on the Sound (Seattle, Washington) probably two of the worst of the leftist cities around next to the Bay area. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
6.1.19  arkpdx  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.17    2 weeks ago
think a lot of people should be ashamed of themselves.

About 79,828,990 according to the AP. 

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.20  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.15    2 weeks ago

Trump laid the groundwork so that private companies could race to a solution, cutting red tape, providing material support and distribution, providing risk free funding.  He turned capitalism and free enterprise loose to do what he lnew would take government forever to do.  Trump gets the credit for it here.  

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.21  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.16    2 weeks ago

The China virus.  

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.22  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.18    2 weeks ago

That about sums them up! 

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.23  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.17    2 weeks ago

Those people have no shame...

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.24  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.19    2 weeks ago

And likely at least 10,000,000 of them aren’t real live people....or are some other manipulation and or fraud

 
 
 
Thomas
6.1.25  Thomas  replied to  MAGA @6.1.5    2 weeks ago
There was no dismal response to it at the federal level.

Yes there was. He blocked travel from China to the West coast. Big deal. Several thousands or more people came from China after he put his travel ban in place.  He did not address people coming in from Europe until after they had brought it with them. This was not necessarily his "fault" though. However,  what was his and his entire administrations fault was the perfunctory and lackadaisical way in which they tried to Wizard of Oz and Tinker Bell it away by sheer (lack of) will power. 

 All the dismal results and actions occurred in blue mayor cities and blue governor states.  

Like now when red and blue states and cities are being hit hard, just like the experts on infectious airborne disease said was going to happen? Just like everybody but the brainwashed, "we're rounding the corner" people knew was bound to happen once cold weather hit and we all moved back inside? 

It really would be closer to the truth to say that there was no response on the Federal level.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.26  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Thomas @6.1.25    2 weeks ago

No it wouldn’t. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.27  Vic Eldred  replied to  MAGA @6.1.23    2 weeks ago

History will record "Operation Warp Speed" and it will be remembered long after the name of Dr Fauci has been forgotten.

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @6.1.25    2 weeks ago
However,  what was his and his entire administrations fault was the perfunctory and lackadaisical way in which they tried to Wizard of Oz and Tinker Bell it away by sheer (lack of) will power. 

For emphasis  .

A critical failure of Trump largely due to his narcissistic nature.   He tried to downplay the virus because he (no doubt) feared that a panic would harm the market and also impact the economy.   Trump certainly had to know that the economy was his ticket to a second term and tarnishing that could be deadly for his reelection.

So instead of doing the right thing, Trump did what he believed was best for Trump.

Turns out, he calculated wrong.   If Trump would have behaved like a PotUS and did the right thing (face the pandemic honestly, encourage people to take precautions, etc.) rather than dismiss and downplay, the effects in the USA likely would have been far less.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @6.1.26    2 weeks ago

Nuh 'uh is not a rebuttal.   It is tacit admission of an inability to rebut.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.30  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.27    2 weeks ago

What do you have against Fauci?

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.31  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Thomas @6.1.25    2 weeks ago

I seeded the entire federal response through April 2020 somewhere on this site already and it was an impressive list of actions taken.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.32  Gordy327  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.16    one week ago
Trump didn't create the virus,

He didn't do much to stop it either.

but it sure doesn't stop some left-wing nuts from claiming it is the Trump Virus.

I haven't heard anyone call it that.

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.33  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.17    one week ago
No, we won't.

Then you're wrong!

It was President Trump's operation warp speed that enabled the scientists to get it done within the year.

Hardly. It was actual scientists working on a vaccine that will get it done. 

It is theTrump vaccine,now & forever!

See first statement.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.34  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.33    5 days ago

It is the Trump vaccine and its first shipment is only 12 days away!  

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.35  Gordy327  replied to  MAGA @6.1.34    5 days ago

Clearly you don't understand how vaccines are named, even though it's been explained to you. 

 
 
 
MAGA
7  seeder  MAGA    2 weeks ago

I’m just glad that the vaccine process will be well under way by Jan. 20 with millions having received it and plans to finish so well under way that Biden will have to either follow it or kill countless Americans by freezing distribution to do it his way.  

 
 
 
MAGA
7.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @7    2 weeks ago

I can’t wait to get the Trump vaccine to protect myself from the China virus.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
7.2  arkpdx  replied to  MAGA @7    2 weeks ago

Another Trump promise fulfilled! I think he's kept more of his promises than any president I can recall and each of them has been good for the country in like the four EO that Biden plans 

 
 
 
MAGA
7.2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @7.2    2 weeks ago

Here’s another!  

“AstraZeneca said its COVID-19 vaccine, cheaper to make, easier to distribute and faster to scale-up than its rivals, could be as much as 90% effective.

“This means we have a vaccine for the world,” said Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford University vaccine group that developed the drug.

Assets from emerging markets reacted strongly to the news, as it allays concerns over the distribution logistics of a vaccine for developing countries.

A popular emerging market stocks ETF was set to close at a 32-month high while the Mexican peso briefly strengthened to under 20 per dollar for the first time since March. The U.S. dollar index touched its lowest since Sept. 1 before edging higher, mostly at the expense of the euro.

Emerging market stocks rose 0.90% while MSCI’s gauge of stocks across the globe gained 0.46%.”

NEW YORK (Reuters)

Thankyou Mr. President!

 
 
 
MAGA
8  seeder  MAGA    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @8    2 weeks ago

The above are the federal game plan for the distribution of the Trump vaccine to the general public.  It’s a great plan and will be well under way by Jan. 20.  

 
 
 
MAGA
9  seeder  MAGA    2 weeks ago

Great news!  The vaccines are about to become available!  Thank you President Trump!  🇺🇸🦅🗽🥳🎉🥂🎊. 

A coronavirus vaccine will begin to become available in the United States "probably by the end of the second week in December," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director  Robert Redfield told Fox News Tuesday.

Redfield told " The Daily Briefing " that a vaccine would initially be made available "in a hierarchical way" with priority going to "nursing home residents and then some combination of health care providers and individuals at high risk for a poor outcome."

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has scheduled a Dec. 10 meeting of its Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee to discuss Pfizer's request for emergency use authorization (EUA) of its vaccine candidate. 

Last week, Pfizer and German partner BioNTech announced that their vaccine candidate is 95% effective against COVID-19 in a large, ongoing study. The FDA can grant an EUA before the final testing is fully complete. 

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"I do think we'll have about 40 million doses of vaccine before the end of the ... year," Redfield told host Dana Perino. "That's enough to vaccinate 20 million people. But then it will continue through January and February and hopefully by March we'll start to see vaccine available for the general public."

In addition to the Pfizer/BioNTech candidate, potential vaccines from Massachusetts-based Moderna and British-Swedish giant AstraZeneca have also shown promise. Last week, Moderna announced its vaccine was 94.5% effective and it intended to submit an EUA request to the FDA "in the coming weeks."

On Monday, AstraZeneca announced that its vaccine was up to 90% effective against the virus.

Redfield warned Perino that while "it's exceptional that we have these vaccines and very exciting," Americans should still practice the precautions recommended by health officials. 

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"I want people to be vigilant because we're turning the corner now," he said. "You don't want to be the last group to end up getting COVID."

Redfield added that the surge of cases and hospitalizations across the U.S. is being driven by what he called "the silent epidemic, the asymptomatic infections largely in individuals between the ages of 12 and 35."...

read more:

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @9    2 weeks ago

Thank God for President Trump!  Thank Him also that Trump is distributing it to us and not Biden. So much for mask mandates and shutdowns!  

 
 
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