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Science? Medicine? Lockdowns Are All About Power and Cruelty

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  6 years ago  •  71 comments

By:   Michael Dorstewitz

Science? Medicine? Lockdowns Are All About Power and Cruelty
Science? Really? Davidson gave his monologue in front of a live New York studio audience. The politicians don’t have science on their side; all they have is raw power — power and slogans. They started out with "15 days to flatten the curve." And if Joe Biden survives the recounts and court battles, he’s already said his will be "100 days with the mask." Both the lockdowns and the slogans are arbitrary, capricious, and yes, outrageously cruel.

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The pure fascist authoritarian dictators that are big blue city mayors and blue state governors and ruling over us with an iron fist and jackboot based entirely on whim and raw power not real science.  Viva la resistance!  


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Democratic politicians have been turning up the heat on lockdowns and restrictions lately, with a claim that they’re following the science.

Don’t believe it.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, signed a new "temporary" emergency regional stay-at-home order Thursday based on local ICU capacity.

"If we don't act now, our hospital system will be overwhelmed," Newsom said .

The governor’s first such "temporary" executive order locking down the economy was signed Match 19, and was replaced by succeeding lockdown orders ever since.

But it can hardly be based on science.

If the lockdowns didn’t work before, what makes Newsom think they’ll work now?

Los Angeles took it a step further.

Mayor Eric Garcetti, also a Democrat, issued an emergency order that bans  "all travel, including, without limitation, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit," with limited exceptions.

"Our city is now close to a devastating tipping point, beyond which the number of hospitalized patients would start to overwhelm our hospital system, in turn risking needless suffering and death," Garcetti’s order said.

"These unfortunate facts about the spread of COVID-19 in our City mean that we must resume some of the more restrictive measures we instituted in the Spring."

As my friend Jennifer remarked, "Now L.A. has a Ministry of Unnecessary Walks?"

Apparently.

But as one Sherman Oaks restauranteur discovered, not only are these orders not based on science --- they’re also cruel.

Angela Marsden, the owner of the Pineapple Hill Saloon and Grill had just set up an outdoor dining area in an attempt to keep up with the city's and state’s growing list of pandemic demands.

Even a casual observer could tell she’d put some, time, effort and expense into the project.

She had a wide expanse of tables and chairs placed underneath a large, tent-like awning, bordered tastefully with plants and decorative half-walls.

But it wasn’t enough — Marsden was being shut down.

But what made it all the more heartbreaking and gave proof to the fact that science had nothing to do with the shutdown of the business she’s put so much time, money and effort into saving, a motion picture company built an outdoor commissary for actors and crew adjacent to her own outdoor facility.

And it looked nearly identical to her own: it consisted of a wide expanse of tables and chairs placed underneath a large, tent-like awning — minus the plants and decorative half-walls.

"I’m losing everything. Everything I own is being taken away from me, and they set up a movie company right next to my outdoor patio,"  she said in a video posted to Twitter,

"Look at this," Marsden tearfully said, pointing to het own outdoor facility. "Tell me this is dangerous, but right next to me as a slap to my face, that’s safe. That’s safe? Fifty feet away?"

Then pivoting to the overall situation she said, "Mayor Garcetti and Gavin Newsom is responsible for every single person that doesn’t have unemployment, that does not have a job, and for all the businesses that are going under, and we need your help!"

Science? Nope, power — power and political pull.

In an around Los Angeles, a motion picture company exercises more political clout than the struggling owner-operator of the Pineapple Hill Saloon and Grill.

Making the distinction all the more glaring, a restaurant is obviously more essential than a film company.

People have to eat to survive; they don’t have to watch movies.

On the other side of the country, Mac's Public House on Staten Island, New York, attempted to ward off authorities and remain open by declaring itself an "autonomous zone," much like Antifa and Black Lives Matter thugs did in Seattle.

But while authorities left the "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone" alone for nearly a month, despite widespread property damage, physical attacks --- and even deaths, they almost immediately closed Mac's Public House down, arrested its owner, and fined the business.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio, both Democrats, declared Mac’s a public health risk because of the COVID-19 pandemic, yet allowed another restaurant a block away to offer indoor dining.

Science? No, and that fact was really brought home over the weekend when Saturday Night Live regular Pete Davidson mocked the pub’s owners and the the approximate 1,000 supporters who vocally protested its closure.

Davidson called them all "babies" for refusing to follow the "science" and comply with the coronavirus restrictions.

Science? Really?

Davidson gave his monologue in front of a live New York studio audience.

The politicians don’t have science on their side; all they have is raw power — power and slogans.

They started out with "15 days to flatten the curve."

And if Joe Biden survives the recounts and court battles, he’s already said his will be "100 days with the mask."

Both the lockdowns and the slogans are arbitrary, capricious, and yes, outrageously cruel.

Michael Dorstewitz is a retired lawyer and has been a frequent contributor to BizPac Review and Liberty Unyielding. He is also a former U.S. Merchant Marine officer and an enthusiastic Second Amendment supporter, who can often be found honing his skills at the range. Read Michael Dorstewitz's Reports — More Here.


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TᵢG
Professor Principal
2  TᵢG    6 years ago
And if Joe Biden survives the recounts and court battles, ...

This is all one needs to read to see that the author is delusionally partisan.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3  Tacos!  replied to  TᵢG @2    6 years ago
This is all one needs to read to see that the author is delusionally partisan.

Is that important here? You can be partisan and still say things that are true or express opinions worth considering. Are you dismissing everything in the article because he's a Republican? You find him generally delusional because he hedged a little on the presidential election?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.2  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago
Is that important here?

Yes.   Anyone who pens something like this ...

And if Joe Biden survives the recounts and court battles, ...

... is delusionally partisan in my book.   This has nothing to do with R or D because I would say the same if Trump were D and Biden R.  

You find him generally delusional because he hedged a little on the presidential election?

' Hedged a little '?    You have got to be kidding me Tacos! ... you think that at this point someone thinking Trump might reverse this election is ' hedging a little '??

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Now that is a major understatement.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.2    6 years ago

This how bigotry and prejudice spread. You disagree with the way this guy references one slightly tangential issue and he is therefore delusional on everything? That's ridiculous. The seed isn't even about the presidential election anyway.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.5  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.4    6 years ago

No, Tacos!, that is one method I use to identify irrational (and thus unreliable) authors.

Anyone who —at this point— thinks that Biden must 'survive' this election is IMO either lying or is irrational.   I immediately filter this author out; not a credible source.

If the seeder wants people to take a seed seriously, I suggest not putting forth one with such an obvious poison pill on the author's ability to think rationally and/or be honest.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3.6  Tacos!  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.5    6 years ago
that is one method I use to identify irrational (and thus unreliable) authors

Well, it's irrational. The facts and opinions in the story should be judged on their own merit.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3.7  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.3    6 years ago
Anything to deflect

You might be right. It's so blatant, too. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.8  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.6    6 years ago

Feel free to trust the presentation of this author while I freely reject the author.

The facts are what matter and I do not consider this author a reliable source.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3.9  Tacos!  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.8    6 years ago

I don't need to trust anything. And the author's feelings about Trump's appeals are not even relevant to the story.

These things are real. Here is a link to the video of Angela Marsden referenced in the seed. You have to have a heart of stone to not feel for this woman.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.11  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.9    6 years ago

I have explained my comment thoroughly.   You seem to have a problem moving along.  

You have to have a heart of stone to not feel for this woman.

You know (or should know) based on my direct comments to you in other articles that I do not support your governor's methods.   Feel free to include the various mayors of CA as well.  So why do you (apparently) pretend otherwise and presume that I would be against small businesses and for your governor?

My position, if you do not recall, is that all venues should follow the same principles of safety.   That includes social distancing, the use of masks, cleaning (air and surfaces) as well as testing of individuals entering the building.   How these measures are applied need to vary per venue.

Did you forget my position or did you never understand it?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.13  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.1    6 years ago
MBFC is rating every news source that hasn’t called the election for Biden and refer to him as President elect as a questionable source so it’s not surprising here at all.  

IMO, anyone who thinks that Trump can overturn this election is not thinking rationally and/or is lying.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.14  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.12    6 years ago

see @2.3.13

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
2.3.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.1    6 years ago
MBFC is rating every news source that hasn’t called the election for Biden and refer to him as President elect as a questionable source so it’s not surprising here at all.  

That is totally untrue. You seem to find plenty of articles that dispute that and you post them here. Give me a break.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3.16  Tacos!  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.11    6 years ago
I have explained my comment thoroughly.

Yes. No one is confused by the irrational bigotry in your comments.

You seem to have a problem moving along.

No one is stopping you from moving along. In fact, one wonders why you stay since you have already dismissed everything in the seed.

So why do you (apparently) pretend otherwise and presume that I would be against small businesses and for your governor?

I have made no assumptions regarding your positions on business or the governor. If you think otherwise, then your imagination has taken control. All you have talked about in this seed - and therefore, all I have commented to you on - is your unwillingness to engage with the material in the seed because of your bias against the author.

My comment here:

You have to have a heart of stone to not feel for this woman.

Was meant to be a general one, but it may apply to you because this is an important element of the seed and you have already made clear that you disregard everything in the seed because you don't like what the author said about the presidential election. 

You said you don't want to consider the author a reliable source and I have given you a link to one of the things he wrote about. Now, you can see that this fact from his article is true. So you should be able to dispense with this irrational bigotry and finally engage with the facts.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.17  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.16    6 years ago
Yes. No one is confused by the irrational bigotry in your comments.

Okay Tacos! you have now confirmed that you are trolling.

You said you don't want to consider the author a reliable source and I have given you a link to one of the things he wrote about. Now, you can see that this fact from his article is true.

My position remains the same.   I do not trust as a credible source anyone who —at this point— thinks that Biden must 'survive' this election,   IMO that illustrates that the individual is either lying or is irrational.   I immediately filter this author out; not a credible source.

You either comprehend that or not.   But I have certainly made it sufficiently clear.

I will go by facts provided by credible sources as I have just demonstrated.  

You are trolling.   Knock it off.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3.18  Tacos!  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.17    6 years ago
You either comprehend that or not.

I comprehend it just fine. So does everybody else who witnesses it. You have been invited multiple times now to comment on the facts in the article. You have even been given an alternative source for one of those facts. Yet you persist. I would not have expected it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.19  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.18    6 years ago

You asked me about the facts of another article and I opined on it @2.3.11:

TiG @2.3.11 ☞ You know (or should know) based on my direct comments to you in other articles that I do not support your governor's methods.   Feel free to include the various mayors of CA as well.  So why do you (apparently) pretend otherwise and presume that I would be against small businesses and for your governor? My position, if you do not recall, is that all venues should follow the same principles of safety.   That includes social distancing, the use of masks, cleaning (air and surfaces) as well as testing of individuals entering the building.   How these measures are applied need to vary per venue.

I stated in virtually every comment that I reject this author as a credible source due to his irrational position on Trump having a chance to change the results of this election.   But I do not reject facts from a credible source.   ⇡

So, again, you are playing games.   Looks like you are determined to troll me yet you pretend as if you are interested in discussing this seed.   I am not interested in discussing this seed because I find the author to lack credibility, so move along.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
2.3.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.19    6 years ago

I had locked this thread as I saw it going nowhere. The last comment was removed as it should have never been here.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
2.4  Gazoo  replied to  TᵢG @2    6 years ago

Business owners are getting railroaded by hypocrite politicians and that’s all you can say? jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif  Pathetic.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.4.3  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.4    6 years ago

Anyone who holds that Trump at this point has any chance of reversing this election is not thinking clearly (or worse) and thus their opinions are of no interest.

If one expects to be taken seriously on any topic, I would advise them to not poison their message by declaring that Biden is the one who is at risk of 'surviving' this election.

You get that, right?   Do you think Trump has any chance of reversing the results of this election?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.4.6  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.4.5    6 years ago
I’ll not be acknowledging any Biden win until every possible legal remedy is exhausted to prevent it.

Yeah, MAGA, we all know ...  jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3  Tacos!    6 years ago

There seems to me little effort or concern on the part of some politicians regard efficiency in their response to the pandemic. It's easy to say "shut down your business" when you have a guaranteed government job, or excess money in the bank.

It's hard to imagine that a restaurant owner who has invested thousands of dollars in new outdoor dining facilities and follows social distancing guidelines could be a significant factor in the sudden explosion of new Covid cases - especially when the restaurant had been operating that way for months before the spike.

But if that truly is the source, let's at least see some data supporting the idea before shutting them down.

It seems to me that something has changed, but I see no evidence that it's sloppier restaurant owners, retail businesses, or hair and nail salons.

 
 

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