‘Where is all the white supremacy stuff?’: Bill O’Reilly debunks Dem claims with cold, hard facts

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  3 months ago  •  108 comments

By:   John Dougherty

‘Where is all the white supremacy stuff?’: Bill O’Reilly debunks Dem claims with cold, hard facts
Taken together, state and federal prosecutions involving alleged white supremacists amounted to just 18 cases and 106 people, O’Reilly continued. “Now, those are the facts. You can’t alter them, you can’t spin them,” O’Reilly said, indicating that the problem appears minuscule and certainly not on the level it’s being portrayed by the Biden administration and Democrats.

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There is no systemic or institutional racism in the USA Today.  Racism as expressed by those into white supremacy are a tiny fringe outside the mainstream of our Exceptional American culture.  To say otherwise is nothing more than race hustling demagoguery.  Biden and democrats are engaging in gross exaggeration and outright lies to say that is  problem in America or that we haven’t lived up to the ideals expressed by the founding fathers they then denigrate for not being sufficiently enlightened enough for the time in which they lived.  It’s time to stand up to those who would accuse America and Americans of being not being good enough for them and those who reject MLK’s peaceful protest and his dream where they can shove it and what UN natural acts they can engage themselves in.  


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Bill O’Reilly on Thursday pushed back against strident claims increasingly being made by President Joe Biden, Democrats, and far-left pundits that “white supremacy” is a widespread and growing problem.

In a segment during his show on streaming network “The First,” the former Fox News host produced newly uncovered data showing that federal cases involving alleged white supremacists over the past two years were minuscule.

By comparison, O’Reilly noted, arrests and prosecutions of left-wing Antifa and Black Lives Matter agitators since the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis last spring have been legion.

“Where is all the white supremacy stuff?” O’Reilly asked as he began his segment, noting there are “no visible signs” of it around most of the country outside of “a few kooks” online.


“But is it a pervasive problem?” The host continued, noting that Biden intimated last week — during a CNN town hall — that the problem was so bad he would be ensuring the Justice Department focused on it.

O’Reilly went on to cite DoJ data showing that in all of 2019, there were only five federal cases brought against 75 alleged white supremacists. In 2020, he continued, there were just five more cases brought against 14 suspected white supremacists.

Turning to state prosecutions, O’Reilly said the number of cases amounted to just five in 2019 and three in 2020, involving eight and nine persons respectively.

Taken together, state and federal prosecutions involving alleged white supremacists amounted to just 18 cases and 106 people, O’Reilly continued.

“Now, those are the facts. You can’t alter them, you can’t spin them,” O’Reilly said, indicating that the problem appears minuscule and certainly not on the level it’s being portrayed by the Biden administration and Democrats.

But during a CNN-sponsored town hall event last week, Biden claimed that the problem is widespread, including throughout police and military ranks.

“I got involved in politics to begin with because of civil rights and opposition to white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan. And the most dangerous people in America continue to exist.  That is the greatest threat to terror in America: domestic terror,” Biden told a town hall participant,”

“And so I would make sure that my Justice Department and the Civil Rights Division is focused heavily on those very folks. And I would make sure that we, in fact, focus on how to deal with the rise of white supremacy,” the president added.

Conversely, O’Reilly said he asked his research staff to find out the number of “far-left” Antifa and BLM members who have been arrested just in 2020.

The host said the number was in the “thousands,” including “more than 300” on the federal level.

“Because of Portland, because of Minneapolis, because of Seattle, thousands of far-left people. So, 106 white supremacists, two years,” versus thousands, O’Reilly said, adding that the president does not seem concerned with the latter.

The host went on to suggest that the purpose behind the white supremacist narrative being pushed by the left is political.

“The far-left progressive movement — and that includes the media, which enables it — they were successful with the white privilege stuff,” he said, going on to note that during that time there was very little pushback on the narrative.

“So then they said, you know, that white privilege thing worked so well, let’s bump it up to white supremacy,” he continued, “and therefore we can bring in the founding fathers who forged the Constitution because they were all white supremacists.”

The objective, he explained, was to then claim all of the founding principles including capitalism, the criminal justice system, and Judeo-Christian principles are likewise racist.

“And we can put in its place socialism, maybe Communism. We can put in its place equity — favorable treatment for marginalized groups,” he added.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    3 months ago
“Because of Portland, because of Minneapolis, because of Seattle, thousands of far-left people. So, 106 white supremacists, two years,” versus thousands, O’Reilly said, adding that the president does not seem concerned with the latter.

The host went on to suggest that the purpose behind the white supremacist narrative being pushed by the left is political.

“The far-left progressive movement — and that includes the media, which enables it — they were successful with the white privilege stuff,” he said, going on to note that during that time there was very little pushback on the narrative.

“So then they said, you know, that white privilege thing worked so well, let’s bump it up to white supremacy,” he continued, “and therefore we can bring in the founding fathers who forged the Constitution because they were all white supremacists.”

The objective, he explained, was to then claim all of the founding principles including capitalism, the criminal justice system, and Judeo-Christian principles are likewise racist.

“And we can put in its place socialism, maybe Communism. We can put in its place equity — favorable treatment for marginalized groups,”

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 months ago

It’s time to spit in the face of critical race theory and it’s advocates, to defend our suburbs from urbanization, to destroy 1619 mythology and replace it with 1776 patriotic reality.  It’s time to honor great Americans like Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and so many others right up to MLK, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Donald’s, Williams, Sewell, Rice, Carson, and so many more.  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.1  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    3 months ago
to defend our suburbs from urbanization

That is racist...

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Ender @1.1.1    3 months ago
That is racist.

Oh hell yes it is. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    3 months ago

As Ben Carson, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams have explained it, it most certainly is not.  

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.4  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    3 months ago

Back during the Jim Crow Era there were also some black men who defended segregation and discrimination. They had a familial term for men like them that many now find offensive...

 
 
 
zuksam
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1.1.5  zuksam  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    3 months ago

When people spend a lot of money to move to a safe low crime suburban town with good schools they do not want the Government telling them they must allow low income/no income housing in their town. It has nothing to do with Race it has to do with destroying the value of their properties and diminishing the safety of their town with housing projects that always increase Crime. Find a Black Person who grew up in the Projects and did good and worked hard and moved to the Suburbs to raise their family and ask them if they want a low/no income housing project built down the road from them.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    3 months ago

How is it racist?

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.7  Ender  replied to  zuksam @1.1.5    3 months ago

Who is to say who is allowed into a town. You?

My town has a mixture. There can be a big house then right next door a trailer.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @1.1.4    3 months ago

Because Blacks can only be liberal and if any deviate from the path the democrat party set for them they are then traitors to their race, right?  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.9  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.6    3 months ago

If you don't know, you don't want to.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.10  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.8    3 months ago

Shut the fuck up with that. We all know what side of the isle the racists vote on.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  zuksam @1.1.5    3 months ago

And last year then HUD Secretary Ben Carson said that more African Americans live in the suburbs now than live in the inner core of the urban city.  They are of the working, middle, and professional class and they are most welcome in the suburbs.  They moved for the good schools, parks, hospitals, houses with a yard, etc that all suburban people of all races seek.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.1.12  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @1.1.9    3 months ago

If you can’t answer you can post something stupid, like in post 1.1.9. Just know i’m not surprised at the response.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.13  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.12    3 months ago

It is all about not wanting them 'Black' people to move into the neighborhood and supposedly drive down value.

The only ones that cannot see that are the fucking people that refuse to see that and have their head stuck up their ass.

Unless of course one is a racist and just blowing smoke around.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.14  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.11    3 months ago

Then what or who are you not wanting in the burbs?

Ps. Carson is an idiot.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.1.15  Gazoo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.11    3 months ago

“more African Americans live in the suburbs now than live in the inner core of the urban

well obviously they are racist. /s/ 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.7    3 months ago

That’s not the issue.  Most suburbs are already well integrated.  People of any race or career who can afford to live in a community can do so.  We don’t need urban high density housing with no yard for each home in the suburbs or in the outlying areas of town away from the city center.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.17  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.10    3 months ago

The left side... 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.18  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.16    3 months ago

Are you going to tell me with a straight face that no suburban centers have any apartment buildings?

No condos or townhomes?

Stop blowing smoke and get real.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.19  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.17    3 months ago

Do you intentionally use childish fifth grade comebacks?

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.20  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.15    3 months ago

No thanks to people that didn't want them there.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.21  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.13    3 months ago

That is a deliberate distortion and blatantly untrue.  I live in an integrated neighborhood where I live and am totally happy to.  I live in an affordable single family unit housing neighborhood. There is not a store or an apartment complex within a mile of my house.  The similar neighborhood I grew up in and mom still lives was going to have thirty empty acres surrounded by subdivisions and Schools, a post office and a cemetery infilled with 600 apartments 20 units per acre.  We opposed that bitterly and won.  We got 10 acres of commercial space behind the post office, a Lowe’s store on the one side and an expansion of the cemetery in the middle for future needs and saved the working/middle class neighborhood and the apartments were built on the eastern edge of town and next to all the box stores.  The issue is not putting high density housing in with single family neighborhoods and has nothing to do with race.  

 
 
 
zuksam
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1.1.22  zuksam  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.16    3 months ago
That’s not the issue.  Most suburbs are already well integrated.  People of any race or career who can afford to live in a community can do so.

The American Dream is attainable by anyone who is willing to work for it no matter what race or religion. The Prize is what makes Capitalism work, an achievement for all the hard work. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.14    3 months ago

It’s got nothing to do with who.  We don’t care.  It has to do with density and mixing high density housing into established single home per yard neighborhoods.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.1.24  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @1.1.13    3 months ago

”It is all about not wanting them 'Black' people to move into the neighborhood and supposedly drive down value.“

where does the original post say anything about blacks? No where. Typically, crime is higher in low income areas. Is it racist to not want crime where you live? As another post put so well, low income accommodations will lower property values. Is it racist to want your property to sustain, or gain in value? Why do you equate low income with blacks only? Blacks aren’t the only race in low income urban areas. To equate only blacks with low income urban areas is certainly racist.

finally, you should keep your personal insults handy because in this argument, that is all you have.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.25  Kavika   replied to  Ender @1.1.18    3 months ago

In addition to condo and apartments in Redding, this is the newest high-density construction project. 

Market Center apartments in downtown Redding set to be finished by this fall

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.26  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.21    3 months ago

Guess what...I looked at Redding CA on google maps and you know what? There is an apartment building with houses right behind it...

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.27  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.24    3 months ago

You think people are going to come out right and say no Blacks? I am sure some would but most would talk with each other.

And guess what, the article said nothing about building low income housing in the middle of a subdivision.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.28  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.24    3 months ago

I have not begun to throw insults. Believe me, you would know if I did.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.29  Ender  replied to  Kavika @1.1.25    3 months ago

What is funny, I looked online and several places list Redding in the top ten of violent cities in California.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.30  Kavika   replied to  Ender @1.1.29    3 months ago

Yup, there a violent bunch there. Also, northern CA has a long history of racism, especially against Native Americans. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.31  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.18    3 months ago

They have them in designated areas.  Same with townhouses.  As to condos we have those but not  many. The beauty of those is that everyone living in them owns their unit.  They generally here have individual small yards and common pool and tennis court.? They generally are a buffer between full separate homes with yards and apartment blocks.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.32  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.19    3 months ago

Then stop making 3rd grade initial taunts of you don’t like it. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.33  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.20    3 months ago

We have no problem with working class middle class, and professional class people of any race moving into suburbs they can afford to live in. That’s not been an issue for several decades now.  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.34  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.33    3 months ago

You have no choice.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.35  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.31    3 months ago

Again, I can pull up google maps. It shows an apartment building with houses right behind it. No buffer zone.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.36  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.33    3 months ago

So just no poor people is that it? You can live by me but cannot be poor?

Hate to break the news to ya but I guarantee that there is poor people around you.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.37  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @1.1.25    3 months ago

Actually that building is finished now and the new redesigned down town is officially opening this Wednesday.  I’m all for this and the other downtown development with a bunch of new buildings that are office, retail, restaurants on the first floor with living units on the 2nd floor and up. A new several story office building a five story parking garage and living units on the other side of the garage with a small park and more retail and living space and a ground level 2hr parking lot are replacing a four block long two level parking structure that was destroyed when the early 1970’s indoor mall was dismantled and that building you mentioned and others are.  Here’s what it’s looking like...https://stories.opengov.com/reddingca/published/a_qtgRiSX

the thing is that this is all being done in the urban core of our downtown and only 10-15% of the new units are low income subsidized.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.38  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.26    3 months ago

There are such and there would be more of it if there wasn’t resistance in a lot of cases.  Some areas where hosing and apartments are together were built before the city annexed the area.  Another matter is that we are not a suburb.  We have our own city and it has annexed developed and undeveloped land that would have been suburbs. So our suburbs are in our city limits.   We have a city of about 10,000 pop each just a couple miles north and just south of us.  There’s another city about the same size 65 miles away to the southeast otherwise it’s 200 south east miles to Reno, 160 miles south to Sacramento and north to Medford.  So, no one who isn’t well off is going to move to Redding to live and then go to the big city to work.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.39  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.27    3 months ago

I brought that up in my comment because that is what Obama was trying to mandate before Trump undid it.  Biden may well try to rewrite that nonsense and we will fight it in court every step of the way.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.40  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.28    3 months ago

See 1.1.10.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.41  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.29    3 months ago

That is no longer accurate.  The state releases people from state prisons up here. Our PD has done a great job getting those people locked back up when they re offend and in dealing with homelessness and fighting gangs and graffiti when they dare to show up here.  That’s why we back the blue here.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.42  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @1.1.30    3 months ago

That was when we were one of the most heavily democrat areas of the state

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.43  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.34    3 months ago

I never asked for one.  I chose to buy a house in a neighborhood that was well integrated already.  Living and working with and going to church with people of all races is no issue at all for me.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.44  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.36    3 months ago

There are but they live in single family units otherwise known as houses.  I’m now one of them.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.45  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.42    3 months ago

BS

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.46  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @1.1.45    3 months ago

In 1972 Shasta county was one of only a handful of counties in the state along with San Francisco and Alameda to vote for McGovern over home state Nixon and registered democrats outnumbered Republicans 2-1.  We were strictly segregated back then too.  In 1973 when democrats used to do telethons on tv Redding sent them more money than some whole small states did and we were mentioned by Hubert Humphrey.  Both my parents were Union democrats and I was oriented that way as well.  I was a young supporter of McGovern and put up the democrat side of competing bulletin boards and led the class debate team for him in my jr high class room.  Things changed here and I changed over the years.  Our population grew real fast with a lot of people moving here from then conservative Orange and Contra Costa counties and the unionized timber industry was decimated. The area became steadily more Republican and conservative ever since around 1975 and Carter barely beat Ford here and then came Reagan who won here easily both times and now registered Republicans outnumber democrats here 2-1.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.47  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    3 months ago
That is racist...

That has become a pretty standard method for derailing a conversation. And without more to substantiate such an accusation, I think it's fair to assume that was your intent.

There is more to living in a suburb versus the city than race. A lot more. Life in the city is very different than life in the suburbs because of design of the living space (from home to neighborhood), and that impacts how people conceptualize and interact with fundamental institutions of economy and government.

I think it's more racist to assume that such a concern could only be about race.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.48  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.47    3 months ago

Nope. Pretty standard fare.

We all know what some people mean when they say they don't want 'urban' people in their neighborhood.

I just choose to deal with it head on instead of pussyfooting around it or denying it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.49  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    3 months ago

So this is still you not being fixated by 1619 project and not be upset by it????

I certainly wish you would practice what you are preaching...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.50  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @1.1.48    3 months ago
We all know what some people mean when they say they don't want 'urban' people in their neighborhood.

It might be what "some people" mean, but you don't know that it's what the person who wrote it meant. And you should inquire instead of just assuming someone is being racist. As I indicated, there are many non-racial reasons why a person would contrast suburban living with city living and prefer it. Sounds like you need to learn about them.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.51  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.50    3 months ago

What it sounds like is you trying to justify it.

Pretty weak.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.52  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @1.1.51    3 months ago

What it sounds like is you trying to justify it.

Pretty weak.

Save it. Your game doesn't work on me.

I can justify it very easily. You won't even acknowledge that the justification exists. Are you trying to claim that living in the suburbs is exactly like living in the city? Because it's not. That's the point. Just have an honest conversation instead of trying to "catch" people being racist.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.53  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.52    3 months ago

Of course justification exists. You are doing it...

So who do you know in life that actually says things like urban people will kill my neighborhood?

How would anyone know?

So,

living in the suburbs is exactly like living in the city? Because it's not. That's the point

Who the fuck made that claim? The one playing games seems to be you if you think that is the whole point of people saying it.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.54  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @1.1.53    3 months ago

You let me know when you're interested in the topic and you're done trying to "out the racists."

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.55  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.54    3 months ago

In your mind, what is the topic?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.56  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.47    3 months ago

You are exactly right.  The other side plays the race card from the bottom of the deck in order to try to silence all opposition to their plans to urbanize the suburbs.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.57  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1.51    3 months ago

Making the initial racist accusation is what was truly and pathetically weak minded.  

 
 
 
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1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 months ago
“Because of Portland, because of Minneapolis, because of Seattle, thousands of far-left people. So, 106 white supremacists, two years,” versus thousands, O’Reilly said, adding that the president does not seem concerned with the latter.

The host went on to suggest that the purpose behind the white supremacist narrative being pushed by the left is political.

“The far-left progressive movement — and that includes the media, which enables it — they were successful with the white privilege stuff,” he said, going on to note that during that time there was very little pushback on the narrative.

“So then they said, you know, that white privilege thing worked so well, let’s bump it up to white supremacy,” he continued, “and therefore we can bring in the founding fathers who forged the Constitution because they were all white supremacists.”

Bill Reilly is attempting to argue, rather lamely , that there may be only 106 white supremacists in the country ("So, 106 white supremacists, two years,"). 

But there are more white supremacist web sites than 106, let alone individuals. There were hundreds of white supremacists at Charlottesville. The blatantly white supremacist website Stormfront had more than 300,000 members as of 2017. Stormfront did lose a lot of activity when the site was shut down by it's internet host, but the 300,000 still exist and I doubt if many of them are bleeding heart liberals now. 

Bill O'Reilly really wants to attack progressives, that is his purpose with this pitch that it is the left that is the "real" problem.  America is far from solving its racial issues. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    3 months ago

he did not argue that there were only 106 white supremacists in the country.

that's ridiculous and untrue

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    3 months ago

He was talking about white racists tried and convicted  of some sort of violent or race motivated crime. Very small number.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    3 months ago
Bill Reilly is attempting to argue, rather lamely , that there may be only 106 white supremacists in the country

No. Way to totally miss the point. The point is there were only 106 white supremacists who actually did anything that made them worthy of prosecution. Therefore - notwithstanding their wretched, racist worldview -  their actual, real, unlawful impact on the lives of regular people and society is minuscule compared to certain other people he highlighted. In other words, though we find them personally abhorrent, they are not much of an actual problem.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2  seeder  XXJefferson51    3 months ago

Biden’s whole white supremacy/ systemic racism rants are such a delusional hoax.  His mind and cognitive ability is so far gone that sleepy old pervert Joe believes his own BLM fed conspiracy theory.  Give it a rest already!  

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2    3 months ago

DHS and the FBI have reported numerous times that ''white supremacists'' et al are the greatest danger to the US. I'm sure that you and Bill O'Reilly get your information from the ''deep state''.

Once again your delusional rant is more humorous than anything else. Do you actually write this nonsense yourself or do you get it from Pravda?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2.1    3 months ago
O’Reilly went on to cite DoJ data showing that in all of 2019, there were only five federal cases brought against 75 alleged white supremacists. In 2020, he continued, there were just five more cases brought against 14 suspected white supremacists.

Turning to state prosecutions, O’Reilly said the number of cases amounted to just five in 2019 and three in 2020, involving eight and nine persons respectively.

Taken together, state and federal prosecutions involving alleged white supremacists amounted to just 18 cases and 106 people, O’Reilly continued.

“Now, those are the facts. You can’t alter them, you can’t spin them,” O’Reilly said, indicating that the problem appears minuscule and certainly not on the level it’s being portrayed by the Biden administration and Democrats.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    3 months ago
“Now, those are the facts. You can’t alter them, you can’t spin them,” O’Reilly said, indicating that the problem appears minuscule and certainly not on the level it’s being portrayed by the Biden administration and Democrats.

I guess that your not aware that those reports from DHS and FBI were made under the Trump administration.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    3 months ago
Washington (CNN) White supremacists will remain the most "persistent and lethal threat" in the United States through 2021, according to Department of Homeland Security draft documents.
The most recent draft report predicts an "elevated threat environment at least through" early next year, concluding that some US-based violent extremists have capitalized on increased social and political tensions in 2020.
Although foreign terrorist organizations will continue to call for attacks on the US, the report says, they "probably will remain constrained in their ability to direct such plots over the next year."
The threat assessment -- which also warns of continued disinformation efforts by Russia -- is especially notable as President Donald Trump has   often employed   race-baiting tactics in his quest for reelection and frequently downplayed the threat from white supremacists during his term in office. The Trump administration has portrayed Antifa and anarchists as a top threat to the US, with the President tweeting this summer that the US   will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization .
The recently released draft reports, which were   made public   by Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes and   first reported by Politico , assess a host of threats, including cyber, foreign influence and irregular migration.
All three drafts state that white supremacist extremists are the deadliest threat.  
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    3 months ago
  • Most white supremacists do not belong to organized hate groups, but rather participate in the white supremacist movement as unaffiliated individuals. Thus the size of the white supremacist movement is considerably greater than just the members of hate groups. Among white supremacist groups, gangs are becoming increasingly important.

  • The white supremacist movement has a number of different components, including 1) neo-Nazis; 2) racist skinheads; 3) “traditional” white supremacists; 4) Christian Identity adherents; and 5) white supremacist prison gangs. The prison gangs are growing in size, while the other four sub-movements are stagnant or in decline. In addition, there are a growing number of Odinists, or white supremacist Norse pagans. There are also “intellectual” white supremacists who seek to provide an intellectual veneer or justification for white supremacist concepts.

  • White supremacists engage in a wide variety of activities to promote their ideas and causes or to cause fear in their enemies. They also engage in an array of social activities in which white supremacists gather for food and festivities.

  • Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are by far the most violent, committing about 83% of the extremist-related murders in the United States in the past 10 years and being involved in about 52% of the shootouts between extremists and police. White supremacists also regularly engage in a variety of terrorist plots, acts and conspiracies. However, white supremacists also have a high degree of involvement with traditional forms of criminal activity as well as ideologically-based criminal activity. Most of the murders committed by white supremacists are done for non-ideological reasons. However, even if such murders are ignored, white supremacists still commit the most lethal violence of any domestic extremist movement in the United States.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.5  CB   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    3 months ago

Bill O'Reilly has a lack of credibility. That is, he cherry-picks his data stream. It's an old tactic, apparently some conservatives support!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  CB @2.1.5    3 months ago
Bill O'Reilly has a lack of credibility. That is, he cherry-picks his data stream. It's an old tactic, apparently some conservatives support!

If you can find more cases, please do share them with us.

I wouldn't want you to lose credibility by calling someone else out without a shred of evidence to back yourself up.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.7  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    3 months ago

More cases?  Well, O'Reilly did not name his five so he could have been describing the white privilege zit that exploded on his backside as effectively.

Here is one incident charged:

Monday, February 11, 2019

Members of Ohio Militia Group Charged with Possessing Unregistered Explosives

CINCINNATI – A federal grand jury has charged two members of an Ohio militia group with violating the National Firearms Act in an indictment unsealed here today.

Ryan D. King, 37, of Franklin, Ohio and Randy D. Goodman, 53, of Ripley, Ohio, were each charged with two counts related to possessing unregistered explosive devices. King and Goodman were both arrested today.

Benjamin C. Glassman, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio, and Todd Wickerham, Special Agent in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Cincinnati Division, announced the charges.

 According to the indictment, King and Goodman were members of a militia group operating in the Southern District of Ohio. King and Goodman established a small subset of the militia group and referred to it as the “Special Projects Team.” The defendants advocated that this Team construct, use and stockpile explosives they called “crater makers.”

The defendants allegedly conspired to possess and possessed destructive devices in violation of the National Firearms Act, specifically, bombs and parts necessary to make pipe bombs.

In January 2019, King and Goodman allegedly tested their “crater makers” at Goodman’s home in Ripley, Ohio. They discussed construction and ignition methods in detail. Goodman referenced the Boston Marathon as an example of a remote detonation system that worked.

. . . .

An indictment merely contains allegations, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.8  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    3 months ago

Dylann Roof's chilling confession in new video

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.9  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    3 months ago

KKK membership sinks 2 Florida cops

Michael Winter
USA TODAY
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Echoing the once-segregated South, a Florida deputy police chief has resigned and an officer has been fired after the FBI reported that both belonged to the Ku Klux Klan

Fruitland Park Deputy Chief David Borst has denied involvement with the notorious white-hooded hate group that emerged after the Civil War and continued to terrorize and murder blacks through the mid-20th century.

The 49-year-old Borst, a department veteran of more than 20 years, was also fire chief for the Lake County city of 5,000, about 40 miles northwest of Orlando. He resigned both posts Thursday after being confronted with the FBI report.

Officer George Hunnewell, who was demoted last year over performance and attitude complaints, was fired Friday by Chief Terry Isaacs.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.10  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    3 months ago

Federal court dismisses suit by Alabama police officer fired after SPLC exposed ties to white supremacist group

A federal court has upheld the firing of an Alabama police officer who was let go after the SPLC exposed his ties to a white supremacist group.

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Josh Doggrell

Josh Doggrell, a former police lieutenant in the city of Anniston, lost his job after the SPLC revealed in 2015 that he had addressed the annual gathering of the League of the South in 2013. He sued the city in 2016, claiming the firing violated his rights under the First Amendment and the Alabama Religious Freedom Amendment.

U.S. District Judge Virginia Emerson Hopkins dismissed the case in a Sept. 29 ruling.

Hopkins wrote that the city fired Doggrell primarily because of “community uproar” sparked by the SPLC’s revelation of his speech, which “implicated the APD [Anniston Police Department] as a law enforcement agency with a sympathetic, if not supportive view of the League of the South’s controversial mission and purpose.”

Another reason for the firing, the judge wrote, was that Doggrell violated the police department’s anti-harassment policy by displaying a “not equal” sign – white with a black background – on his Facebook page.

The League of the South is a neo-Confederate group that advocates a second secession and a nation dominated by white people. Doggrell had been a member since he joined as a student at the University of Alabama in 1995, and he started a chapter in Calhoun County in 2009.

In the 2013 speech, Doggrell told members of the League that police officers are “just as susceptible to being swayed to our side and our views as any other southerner, and I would say even more so,” and “[officers] are the kind of people … that can be counted on to be a warrior in the battles to come.” He also relayed a conversation in which he claimed the city’s former police chief told him that “we pretty much think like you do.”

After the SPLC brought the speech to light, the city manager placed Doggrell and another officer who attended the 2013 gathering on administrative leave and initiated an internal investigation, according to the ruling. He announced his decision to fire Doggrell two days later.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.11  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    3 months ago

White nationalism remains a problem for the military, poll suggests

February 28, 2019
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Military explosives arranged in the shape of a swastika in a screenshot from the Twitter account of @Jacobite_Edward, an active-duty Marine under investigation for racist views. A Military Times poll from last fall found that more than one in five servicemembers have seen evidence of white supremacy or racist ideology in the ranks, despite work from service leaders to root out the problem.

WASHINGTON — After a year of military officials publicly emphasizing the dangers of white nationalism in the ranks , a poll of Military Times readers found little change in the prevalence of those racist views among troops.

The issue of extremists in the ranks gained national attention again recently after the arrest of Coast Guard Lt. Christopher Hasson , a former active-duty Marine and Army guardsman who was plotting a mass murder of political and media figures. Investigators have found evidence that he was a long-time white nationalist who held violently racist views even before his first enlistment in the military.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  CB @2.1.11    3 months ago

wow, doesn't look like you could find any more than Bill did.

but I am sure you will make a point soon.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.13  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    3 months ago

LIVE: House committee holds hearing on white supremacy and police

Listen to testimony (5 minutes long) at 36:00 through 41:00.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  CB @2.1.13    3 months ago

still waiting for your point.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Sophomore Principal
2.1.15  Gsquared  replied to  CB @2.1.13    3 months ago

You provided some excellent examples, CB.  There are, of course, many more.  You have made your point clearly and comprehensively.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.16  CB   replied to  Gsquared @2.1.15    3 months ago

Thank you for sharing! (Smile.)

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1.17  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.12    3 months ago

He’s going to overload the seed with lengthy articles about each of the relative handful of cases because he knows as well as we do it is not widespread or systemic. The surest way to end any dialogue on race is to pre condition the conversation upon acceptance of white guilt.  We can discuss equal rights and non discrimination and how to make an improving situation better still and advance MLK’s methods and dream just fine without preconditions.  Pre conditions means no dialogue at all. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.14    3 months ago

There are going to be sadly some white bigots and supremacy types in small numbers across virtually any profession and large group.  They can be eradicated from such when found out.  Trying to tie all Trump voters or even just his white voters to such extremes is only a conversation stopper. We know what Trump did to the benefit of African American communities as do an increasing number of African Americans themselves, thus the increase of their support for him and more individuals of that community speaking on his behalf.  Those in that group won’t engage in race baiting / hustling and there are now more African Americans we can dialogue with and outreach to their friends guilt free.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
2.1.19  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @2.1    3 months ago

My neighbor is a Detective in Hurst TX

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.20  CB   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.17    3 months ago

The articles are not lengthy, and I have pointed the other guy to the significant features of each one. I can not and am not holding myself to any consumption on your behalf, nevertheless. It is not my role here.

When you wish to discuss MLK seriously land not just abuse his name, go for it. Here's a start on the subject:

In his lifetime, before he was assassinated by a racist individual, was Martin Luther King someone you would or would not label a "social justice warrior"?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
2.2  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2    3 months ago

Feds now say right-wing extremists responsible for majority of deadly terrorist attacks last year

The U.S. government is acknowledging for the first time that right-wing extremists were responsible for the majority of fatal domestic terrorist attacks last year, according to an internal report circulated by the Department of Homeland Security last week and obtained by Yahoo News.

A review of last year’s domestic terrorist incidents by a DHS fusion center — which shares threat-related information between federal, state and local partners — found that although civil unrest and antigovernment violence were associated with “non-affiliated, right-wing and left-wing actors, right-wing [domestic violent extremists] were responsible for the majority of fatal attacks in the Homeland in 2020.”

The report, produced by the Joint Regional Intelligence Center, a DHS-funded fusion center, was sent out to police and law enforcement agencies nationwide as part of an intelligence-sharing system created after the 9/11 attacks.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3  CB     3 months ago

How many white supremacy 'cases' were not filed, but swept under the rug?

BTW, look what white privilege has done for Bill O'Reilly, he had 32 million dollars to pay off Lis Wiehl  sexual harassment and a renewed contract from Fox News until they learned of the whopping amount he pay-out of his own pocket! Bill O'Reilly is speaking volume speaking from is new "hell" outside of "the Station."

We understand how these "situations" are established and reported on in this country.

FBI Investigation: [UNCLASSIFIED] White Supremacy Infiltration Of Law Enforcement 2006

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
3.1  Tacos!  replied to  CB @3    3 months ago
How many white supremacy 'cases' were not filed, but swept under the rug?

Why would that happen?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.1.1  CB   replied to  Tacos! @3.1    3 months ago

Why are you asking me? I mean one could glean that 'attackers' will 'phone-jack' other people with additional threats of violence if they come forward and complain. Use your common-sense and creative imagination on this as you do to form counterpoints. Besides, unlike the FBI which needs violence to occur, we can in discussion talk about rhetoric, intent, and acts.

Taco, excuse me, but it is not my intention to answer 'idle' questions, per se. I do not come here to humor you or any Trump conservative. I take you and those other conservative seriously—before an action is taken.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
3.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  CB @3.1.1    3 months ago
Why are you asking me?

Because you're the one who suggested it might be happening. Who else am I gonna ask?

I mean one could glean that 'attackers' will 'phone-jack' other people with additional threats of violence if they come forward and complain.

OK, "phone jack?" Like it's a verb?

I don't even know what that means. So I don't know why I would glean it. I thought a phone jack was something in the wall that you plugged your phone into. 

Use your common-sense

OK, well my common sense tells me that

1) People report crimes and they get prosecuted regardless of color.

2) My common sense also tells me that there is a shitload of white people in prison so it's not like there is some widespread practice of white violent crime being swept under the rug.

3) And my common sense also tells me that if there were such crime that went ignored, there would be massive protests all over the country, because we have seen that in many cases where the public thought the authorities were too slow to prosecute someone who committed a crime against a person of color.

and creative imagination

Yes, well, it would require a pretty creative imagination to conclude (without apparent evidence) that violent crime by white supremacists was being swept under the rug anywhere in this country.

Taco, excuse me, but it is not my intention to answer 'idle' questions, per se.

It's not an idle question CB, and you know it. Take some responsibility for the things you write. You started this topic, not me. I responded directly to your comment. You asked this:

How many white supremacy 'cases' were not filed, but swept under the rug?

And I want to know why you think there would/could be any.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.1.3  CB   replied to  Tacos! @3.1.2    3 months ago

Read the links or not. I don't want to hold your hand on this one. Go figure it out for yourself. Now, are you going to tell me you don't know what that means? It's an idiom. So, not an attack.

And one more thing: I ain't some 'messenger' for you to rhetorically shoot. Read, listen, grow, develop, and argue the statements, links, and facts. Don't waste my time with weak attempts at getting personal or being condescending.

I will just flag that shit and call it a day!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
3.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  CB @3.1.3    3 months ago

Wow. What an amazing exchange. You made a comment and I asked why it would be true. Pretty simple. But you want to act like somebody is doing something to you. 

Read the links or not.

You have supplied me with zero links about crimes being swept under the rug. In fact, you haven't given me links at all.

I don't want to hold your hand on this one. Go figure it out for yourself.

If you're just going to write random nonsense and get mad when someone asks you to clarify it, then I think I and others will "figure" that your suggestion was a work of fiction.

Don't waste my time with weak attempts at getting personal or being condescending.

I haven't done anything like that. I literally just asked you why you suggested the thing you did. You decided to engage in this freak out all on your own.

I will just flag that shit and call it a day!

Be my guest.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @3.1.3    3 months ago

Keep the meta off my seed. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4  CB     3 months ago

Letterman to OReilly: Youre a goon

A 'round' for EverYBodY! This is Billo, Beck, Rush, and 'the gang' mentions. Ahh! Those were the days, my friend. . . we thought they'd never end. . . .

Really, it all just took too long to just blow over.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Sophomore Principal
5  Gsquared    3 months ago

The White Power/White Supremacy movement is, of course, a very significant problem.  According to the Department of Homeland Security, it is the most persistent and legal threat within the U.S., however, it is not just a problem in the U.S.  It is becoming very well-documented, but much more needs to be done both in terms of understanding and combating this exceptionally serious threat.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
Sophomore Principal
5.1  Gsquared  replied to  Gsquared @5    3 months ago
l̶e̶g̶a̶l̶ threat

lethal threat

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @5    3 months ago

There is no systemic or institutional racism in the USA Today.  Racism as expressed by those into white supremacy are a tiny fringe outside the mainstream of our Exceptional American culture.  To say otherwise is nothing more than race hustling demagoguery.  Biden and democrats are engaging in gross exaggeration and outright lies to say that is  the big problem in America or that we as a nation haven’t lived up to the ideals expressed by the founding fathers they then denigrate for not being sufficiently enlightened enough for the time in which they lived.  It’s time to stand up to those who would accuse America and Americans of being not being good enough for them and those who reject MLK’s peaceful protest and his dream where they can shove it and what unnatural acts they can engage themselves in.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
Sophomore Principal
5.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2    3 months ago

Completely delusional:  jrSmiley_115_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.2  CB   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2    3 months ago

Deceive yourselves all you wish. Reality will carry on outside of some conservatives' reach, then. More (reality) for us, I guess. (Chuckles.)

"Bill-O" still got that persuasion magick lore of years ago going for him!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2    3 months ago

Completely accurate truth:  jrSmiley_115_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @5.2.2    3 months ago

You mean your liberal echo chambers? 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6  CB     3 months ago
Biden and democrats are engaging in gross exaggeration and outright lies to say that is problem in America or that we haven’t lived up to the ideals expressed by the founding fathers they then denigrate for not being sufficiently enlightened enough for the time in which they lived.

As I wrote earlier, this "privilege freak" has 32 million dollars to shell out to Lis Wiehl (possibly five other women as well) on a sexual harassment case which got him fired from his flagship and thrown out into the proverbial bushes. Like he can determine a lie when he hears one and yet is morally bankrupt and lies about his reasons for not taking the women to court to clear his name and safe his job from cutting his butt loose.

Talk about demagoguery and brass balls. Now, Bill gets his voice back after Trump is tossed out. No credibility to low credibility. These are the anglings of one of many individuals trying to win over the audience listeners of a recently deceased mega-broadcaster. Guess which one.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6    3 months ago

sure, attack the source because he told you the truth.

typical.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.1  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    3 months ago

Anything to say about the article and its writer's words? I am going to have to place myself off-limits.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6.1.1    3 months ago

heck, dude, I am still waiting for you to write something about this article instead of attacking the source.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.2    3 months ago

We will be waiting a very long time for any of that.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    3 months ago

That is the liberal way!

 
 
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