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Planned Parenthood Is The Greatest Threat To Black Lives In America

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  169 comments

By:   Rep. Burgess Owens

Planned Parenthood Is The Greatest Threat To Black Lives In America
her organization, the prime progenitor of abortion in the United States and perhaps worldwide, would have to “reckon” with their founder, Margaret Sanger, and her association with “white supremacist groups and eugenics.” The acknowledgement of Sanger’s notorious views on Planned Parenthood’s use of birth control to eliminate those she regarded as nothing but “human weeds” — by such methods as forced sterilization, birth permits and segregated camps for the unfit — is important.

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Rep. Owens is exactly right.  He as an African American congressman is exposing the true nature of planned parenthood.  They are an illegitimate organization. He exposes the eugenics nature and history of this racist organization.  They are one of the most misnamed organizations in America.  What they do is to assist in avoiding parenthood not planning for it.  


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Planned Parenthood Is The Greatest Threat To Black Lives In America



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The headline in a recent weekend edition of  The New York Times was stark, “I’m the Head of Planned Parenthood: We’re Done Making Excuses for Our Founder.” The author of the piece, Alexis McGill Johnson, went on to proclaim that her organization, the prime progenitor of abortion in the United States and perhaps worldwide, would have to “reckon” with their founder, Margaret Sanger, and her association with “white supremacist groups and eugenics.” 

The acknowledgement of Sanger’s notorious views on Planned Parenthood’s use of birth control to eliminate those she regarded as nothing but “human weeds” — by such methods as forced sterilization, birth permits and segregated camps for the unfit — is important. But Johnson’s confession is short on specifics, and to say it is overdue is like acknowledging the Hindenburg had a fire on board. Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood has spent more than a century building a citadel of prejudice with profound, even irreversible, effects on African Americans and the poor. 

It is too bad that we know no more about Sanger’s 1926 address to a women’s auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan in New Jersey than her self-report, in her autobiography, that the audience reaction was enthusiastic and led to “a dozen invitations to speak to similar groups.” In short, she resonated. Her views not only had long-term influence on the location of Planned Parenthood clinics, but they also helped drive passage of the infamous federal anti-immigration legislation of 1924 and praise for the Supreme Court’s decision upholding the constitutionality of forced sterilization laws in Buck v. Bell  in 1927. 

Nearly a century later these impacts are still being felt. America has become so used to the disparate impact of abortion on U.S. minorities that some actually advocate for public funding of abortion because it will result in even more abortions. Today in the United States, the abortion rate of African American women is over three times that of white women. Planned Parenthood, which has only sporadically reported the abortions it performs by race, owns roughly 40 percent of this traffic. From 2000 to 2010 African Americans as a percentage of the total U.S. population dropped by one seventh. What an incalculable loss to our national and community well-being this is. 

How might Planned Parenthood reckon with its sordid past? Recognition is a first step, but clearly much more is necessary. However unlikely, the group might begin with a recognition that every human life is of equal worth, regardless of that life’s parentage, potential scores on competitive tests, country of origin, religion, or skin color. Planned Parenthood might begin to scorn those who say prenatal disability, or sex, or race are grounds for “termination” of human life by dismemberment that tears bodies limb from limb and shreds the dreams of the vulnerable. 

Planned Parenthood might take another look at the effort by the Mississippi legislature to protect babies at and after 15 weeks of pregnancy. An analysis of Mississippi’s 2019 annual abortion report by the Charlotte Lozier Institute shows that an astonishing 2,366 – that is 74% – of the state’s 3,194 abortions were inflicted on black women. These numbers represent a failure of health care – its very antithesis.  

Planned Parenthood might even consider some of the bright spots in its history, those rare moments when, through a program like the Mississippi Health Project, Dr. Dorothy Ferebee, a Planned Parenthood board member, teamed with Ida Jackson and the international AKA Sorority to bring mobile clinics to Mississippi’s rural poor women. This effort, which brought as many as 46 black female physicians to the state during the summer months, remains one of the most impressive examples of voluntarism in the history of the Jim Crow South. 

Our call is clear. It is indeed time to stop making excuses — and to start making amends. Our nation needs a clarion summons for both racial reconciliation and a renewed reverence for life. The real freedom to choose is the choice for love and respect for the youngest and weakest in our midst.  

Marjorie Dannenfelser is president of Susan B. Anthony List.  

Burgess Owens is the U.S. Representative of Utah’s fourth congressional district.  


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Gordy327
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2  Gordy327    5 years ago

Nothing to see here. Just more anti abortion BS. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3  Thrawn 31    5 years ago

The usual giving more of a shit about a dead fetus than an actual person. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1  Gordy327  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3    5 years ago

That and general disingenuousness too. It's practically libelous.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    5 years ago

I say it about the article, especially the title!

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.2    5 years ago

I dunno, reads like a bunch of CRT to me.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  Hallux @3.1.3    5 years ago

Reads like a bunch of usual BS to me. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.5    5 years ago

So?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.5    5 years ago

And? 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.9    5 years ago

Again, so? What does that have to do with PP? 

 
 
 
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3.1.11  Kavika   replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.10    5 years ago
Again, so? What does that have to do with PP? 

Not a thing but when you have nothing deflect and the go-to for the RWers is CRT

 
 
 
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3.1.12  CB  replied to  Kavika @3.1.11    5 years ago

HA!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  Kavika @3.1.11    5 years ago

Exactly! It also shows just how weak one's position and/or argument really is.

 
 
 
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3.1.14  Raven Wing   replied to  Kavika @3.1.11    5 years ago
Not a thing but when you have nothing deflect and the go-to for the RWers is CRT

That's all they have, lies, misrepresentation, deflections, trolling and taunting.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.15  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1.14    5 years ago
That's all they have, lies, misrepresentation, deflections, trolling and taunting.

Don't forget the sanctimonious arrogance.

 
 
 
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4  Hallux    5 years ago

Oh goody, back to abortion ... I thought you had lost your way what with guns and God to trip over. The sordid past of abortions? That would have been back alleys, coathangers, various bark concoctions, unstoppable bleeding, throwing oneself down the stairs, strange women who might a few hours before had washed latreens ... the list goes on. You could start small and cut arms funding to Israel which enables Israeli gals to get free abortions?

 
 
 
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4.1  Gordy327  replied to  Hallux @4    5 years ago

It's amazing how some people forget (or ignore) the history of abortion before Roe or how some want to return to the past because they can not deal with societal progress. Roe is perhaps one of the best decisions the SCOTUS ever made. And that was a conservative court back then too.

 
 
 
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4.1.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Gordy327 @4.1    5 years ago
It's amazing how some people forget (or ignore) the history of abortion before Roe

Abortions were freely practiced by the early Christians who came to America, and the physicians were authorized to perform them. While the Christians had no objection to abortions, and yet today's Christians rail against them, I can only assume that they early Christians and today's Christians did not read the same Bible. One Bible does not object to them, and one does it seems.

That must mean that the Christians of today interpret the Bible differently than their early arrivals for their own religious, personal or political agendas. Which makes me question which is the real meaning of the Bible.

 
 
 
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4.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @4.1.1    5 years ago
Abortions were freely practiced by the early Christians who came to America, and the physicians were authorized to perform them.

Abortions were also allowed in the 18th century. They were initially outlawed because of the large influx of immigrants into the country, fearing that immigrants would eventually outnumber the "natural born" citizens of the country.

I can only assume that they early Christians and today's Christians did not read the same Bible. One Bible does not object to them, and one does it seems.

Not surprising. Christians today can't even agree on biblical interpretations or what they think their god wants. They can't even agree or see that the bible is not divine, but rather written by ancient men with pens.

That must mean that the Christians of today interpret the Bible differently than their early arrivals for their own religious, personal or political agendas. Which makes me question which is the real meaning of the Bible.

See previous statement. Some seem to think their god is in their corner on such matters. So they probably think their "interpretations" or beliefs are the "correct" ones and everyone else believing differently is wrong.

 
 
 
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4.1.3  Raven Wing   replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.2    5 years ago
So they probably think their "interpretations" or beliefs are the "correct" ones and everyone else believing differently is wrong.

If every religion interpreted the Bible, the same words of the Bible, differently then there would only need to be one religion. Now....where would the fun.....and the money.....be in that?  /s

When I was a young girl I attended a Baptist church and really looked up the Pastor. What he preached, as most do, against smoking, drinking and adultery, I really admired him for caring about people, and I would give my small allowance each month to the church. His wife was as sweet as she was beautiful, and she always made me hope I could one day be like her.

Then one day as I was walking home from school i had to pass by a drug store that had tables and chairs as well as the stools.  Just as I was about to pass by the last window I looked up and saw the Pastor sitting at the table with another woman, and a cigarette in his one hand, and the other arm around the woman's shoulders. Not seeing me, he quickly reached over and kissed her.

At that moment I started to cry, and was angry at the same time.  So I reached up and tapped on the window and yelled, "Hi Pastor!" and waved with a big smile. When he saw who I was he looked shocked, and quickly took his arm down from the woman's shoulders and ditched the cigarette, then smiled a nervous smile and nodded at me. Then I walked off and never went back to that church.

Yeah.....I heard later that he was shot by a strange woman who he also cheated on.

 
 
 
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4.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @4.1.3    5 years ago
Yeah.....I heard later that he was shot by a strange woman who he also cheated on.

Hell hath no fury, right?

 
 
 
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4.1.5  Raven Wing   replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.4    5 years ago

He didn't die, but, he likely wished he had, as half his face was blown away, and all the surgeries he had didn't help much. They didn't do the face transplants back then like they can today. I heard he became a reclusive drunk, and his wife left him after she found out about his 'other woman' that he was with at the drug store. Eyes and ears are everywhere. And some never learn.

 
 
 
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4.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @4.1.5    5 years ago

Sounds like his own personal hell. 

 
 
 
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4.1.7  CB  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.6    5 years ago

You are certainly going to 'read' me for this, but. . . oh well.

John 5:14 Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him, “See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you.”

A womanizer had been delivered from his past and set apart for something responsible and more; returned to his 'crooked' ways and reaped the damages thereby. Such matters were understood even in ancient civilizations (and still stand the test of time).

 
 
 
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4.1.8  Gordy327  replied to  CB @4.1.7    5 years ago

The concept of karma has been around for a long time.

 
 
 
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4.1.9  Raven Wing   replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.6    5 years ago

True. And one that he made for himself. He learned Karma is a Bi*ch the hard way.

 
 
 
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5  bbl-1    5 years ago

Why on Earth would the pro Putin so called American right wing give a ham fisted crap about minority anything?

 
 
 
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5.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bbl-1 @5    5 years ago
Why on Earth would the pro Putin so called American right wing give a ham fisted crap about minority anything?

They don't, it's just a convenient wedge issue they can use to pretend to be racially sensitive. While Republicans actively craft disenfranchising legislation that the courts found "target African Americans with almost surgical precision", fight against teaching the truth about slavery and segregation in our history, fight to preserve confederate monuments and lionize those who fought to conserve slavery, fight against any meaningful police reform to address the racial inequity we know exists in the justice system, refuse to admit that any sort of systemic racial inequality even exists, malign virtually every unarmed black man that dies in police custody or during arrests as guilty or at fault for daring to run or resist in anyway and therefore is deserving of the death penalty, have the least diverse congress and Senate, refuse to admit that black lives matter, but like to trot out their very few black members to make arguments that pretend to be racially sensitive like pretending to care about what a woman long dead thought about race nearly 100 years ago and pretend that their white conservative Christian ancestors from that time period didn't share the exact same racist views.

 
 
 
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5.1.2  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1    5 years ago
[L]ike to trot out their very few black members to make arguments that pretend to be racially sensitive like pretending to care about what a woman long dead thought about race nearly 100 years ago

"Exactly right!"

 
 
 
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5.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1    5 years ago

It all revolves around "some" white people feeling they are unappreciated by the minorities and not respected for all the great things their white ancestors did. Hence the 1836 Project that will celebrate the founding of Texas in 1836 even though the constitution of that new "nation" did not recognize a single right existed for people of color (even the free POC !). But the "Texians" did love their guns and their freedom (for whites) so the state legislature there in 2021 thinks the 1836 folks deserve a big round of applause. 

This attitude exists across the country where all -white locales congregate.   "Aint we great !" 

 
 
 
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5.1.4  Raven Wing   replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    5 years ago

The racism in Texas did not/does not affect the African-Americans alone. The Texans did/do hate the Mexicans and indigenous people that were there looong before the whites ever came to America, and looong before Texas became a Republic and then joined America as a state.

The white Texans did/do tolerate the Mexicans because they need the slave and/or poverty level laborers. But, the "Injin's" were/are of no use/value to them so there was/is little to no tolerance for them.

 
 
 
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6  charger 383    5 years ago

Too many kids causes generational poverty and the family's limited resources are spread too thin so all the kids suffer and fall behind and the cycle repeats and expands.

 

 
 
 
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6.1  bbl-1  replied to  charger 383 @6    5 years ago

And that is the right wing plan.  Abject poverty and use the poor against the poor enabling the elite wealth to take and maintain order.  A version of "The Piano Player," by Kurt Vonnegut.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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6.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  charger 383 @6    5 years ago

Pshhh, anti-abortion folks don’t have time to be worrying about ACTUAL kids when there are so many potential kids to be concerned about.

 
 
 
JBB
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7  JBB    5 years ago

Making abortions illegal does not reduce demand for termination services. It just makes abortions unsafe.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  JBB @7    5 years ago

They want to get rid of abortion rights while also making contraception harder to obtain and making sure young people are as ignorant as possible when it comes to sex and our reproductive systems.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1.1  JBB  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.1    5 years ago

That would result in more abortions, not less!

 
 
 
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7.1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  JBB @7.1.1    5 years ago

You don’ have to tell me that. I think people like the seeder just want a lot of poor people.

 
 
 
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7.1.3  CB  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.1.2    5 years ago

"Exactly right" - as one somebody is fond of writing around comments and boards. Give us mo' babies, and we will let them grow up and toil like those other wretches we permit to exist in this life on some conservatives' "Are there no work-houses?" public policies.

 
 
 
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7.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.5    5 years ago

I don't agree. Abortion is not the same as eugenics and equating the two is both dishonest and hyperbole. If more African American women are having abortions,  perhaps it's because more African American women are CHOOSING to have abortions!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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7.1.7  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.4    5 years ago

Then you should also be against guns, wars, military actions, ect..

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.8  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.5    5 years ago

Gordy is "EXACTLY RIGHT!" some conservatives are being dishonest and hyperbole. Here is why:

[Rep. Burgess] decries the eugenics like policies of planned parenthood when it comes to African Americans and abortion rates?

Eugenics is (forced) sterilization and not reproduction (abortion) services, per se. Abortion is voluntary and non-permanent. That is, a girl or woman can have a child at some other "qualified" time in her life.

For these reasons I disagree with Rep. Burgess. And, I resent this desperate attempt at a question!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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7.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  CB @7.1.8    5 years ago

Those reasons are also why claims of abortion being akin to eugenics falls apart. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1.10  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.4    5 years ago
No.  I just want fewer dead people.  Like almost 1,000,000 a year.  

Then you should be all about abortion. Fewer people being born means fewer people to inevitably die.

And I cannot really take that sentiment seriously coming from you given your views on gun control.

 
 
 
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7.1.11  CB  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.1.10    5 years ago

One other consideration. That abortions take place in varying quantities or numbers, does not equate to fewer babies being born now than at any other time in history: Inside U.S. or World (populations). That is, is there qualified urgency to some conservatives meddling in the private affairs of girls and women?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1.12  Thrawn 31  replied to  CB @7.1.11    5 years ago

I imagine more than a few feel like the 19th amendment was a mistake.

 
 
 
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7.1.13  Raven Wing   replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.1.12    5 years ago

No government, state or religious organization has the right to determine who can and can't be born, as none of them are willing to pay the cost of raising those that live.

It is, and should be, the decision of the MOTHER. Not even the Father should have a say in the matter, as Fathers tend to come and go, and most of those who leave refuse to help in the cost to raise the child, unlike how willing they were to raise their penis to help create the child.

So it should be no ones business but the Mother's. And unless the gov, state or religious entity agrees by unchangeable contract and one that can't be cancelled, to pay the health care and cost to raise the child in a middle class means, then they should not have any say, or make any threats, regarding the Mother's decision to abort her fetus. Just like it had been for thousands of years in the civilized world.

 
 
 
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7.1.14  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.13    5 years ago
It is, and should be, the decision of the MOTHER.

Exactly! And that's what it should boil down to. But clearly some do not want the woman to be able to make that decision.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.1.15  Raven Wing   replied to  Gordy327 @7.1.14    5 years ago
But clearly some do not want the woman to be able to make that decision.

Then it is time women of America stood up and fought for their independence. We are no longer chattel or indentured slaves and we should not allow ourselves to be treated as such.

Years ago women won the right to vote. How many years will it take for women win the right to have rightful control over their own bodies?

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.16  CB  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.15    5 years ago
[I]t is time women of America stood up and fought for their independence.

Ditto.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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7.1.17  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.15    5 years ago
How many years will it take for women win the right to have rightful control over their own bodies?

They already do. The problem is, there are those, women included (go figure) who want to restrict the right over their own bodies.

We are no longer chattel or indentured slaves and we should not allow ourselves to be treated as such.

Absolutely agreed!

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.18  CB  replied to  Gordy327 @7.1.17    5 years ago

It is people wanting this type of control over other people (making the rest of us who can mind our own business and accept privacy for what is is look 'bad').

 
 
 
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8  Veronica    5 years ago

Not this shit again.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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8.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Veronica @8    5 years ago

All day baby, this is huskers jam.

 
 
 
Veronica
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8.1.1  Veronica  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1    5 years ago

Shit jam. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Veronica @8.1.1    5 years ago

That's putting it mildly.

 
 
 
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9  bugsy    5 years ago

To be honest, although PP is a threat to blacks, otherwise they would make up more than 13 percent of the US population, they are not the biggest threat, mainly because there is debate about if fetuses are human or not. I won't go into that.

I do believe, however, that blacks are by far the biggest threat to other blacks, where there is no debate on whether they are human

For those that say this is a dog whistle, that in reality only leftists hear, otherwise they would not accuse it, there is no legitimate argument for dissent with this.

 
 
 
CB
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9.1  CB  replied to  bugsy @9    5 years ago

Well, it can't be much worse of a threat to the masses of Black Americans than already endured by killer massuhs and meddlesome conservatives who 'kill' the spirit of people, citizens, and setback this nation daily.  And bugsy, thank you for observing our black death 'affliction,'  and what may I ask, are some solutions for making black America better off?

[List here, please.]

 
 
 
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9.1.1  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1    5 years ago
already endured by killer massuhs and meddlesome conservatives who 'kill' the spirit of people, citizens, and setback this nation daily

Some examples please...and also, please do not use your feelings as your guidance. Not usually a good look.

"And bugsy, thank you for observing our black death 'affliction,'  and what may I ask, are some solutions for making black America better off?"

For starters, stop using "he ;looked at me wrong", or "he looked at my girlfriend", or not killing innocent people simply because of a minor fender bender, or the need for the shoes another person is wearing, or being 70 percent of out of wedlock births.

Need I go on?

 
 
 
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9.1.2  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.1    5 years ago

You do not need me to spell out and image killer massuhs from old and meddlesome conservatives of today for you. Read history and read and watch current events.

The reasons some blacks kill other blacks are varied (disrespect and owing money being two), I wish it would stop too. I won't defend the stupe in gun violence and murder, but since telling them to "just stop" doesn't work—what else you got?

As to the 70 percent out of wedlock births. . .  well, that one is owed to the 'white massuhs' who f-ed with the heads of black men (and women) when they made them practice living like barbaric field beasts. It will take time (meaning "x" amount and as long as needed) to repair that breach of humanity.

Moreover, if marriage and family are working out so 'swell and dandy' for some conservatives - why the "h" are y'all complaining about abortion deaths all-around? Surely, married couples and white singles are not abortin' babies, eh?

What's y'all excuse?

 
 
 
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9.1.3  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.2    5 years ago
As to the 70 percent out of wedlock births. . .  well, that one is owed to the 'white massuhs' who f-ed with the heads of black men (and women) when they made them practice living like barbaric field beasts.

Could you point out who today is making blacks act this way?

Otherwise, always gotta be blaming someone else for failures of the black community.

If you really want to blame someone for black failures, take a look at your white liberal "massuhs". They are the ones keeping you on the democratic plantation, and many blacks fail to realize it, staying under the thumb of your white liberal "massuhs".

 
 
 
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9.1.5  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.3    5 years ago

I asked you:

Moreover, if marriage and family are working out so 'swell and dandy' for some conservatives - why the "h" are y'all complaining about abortion deaths all-around? Surely, married couples and white singles are not abortin' babies, eh? What's y'all excuse?

Apparently, you have no answer for that so you steered around it. You don't need to worry about Black America - just get the "patty" out of the way and stop blockin and talkin and all things considered we just might grow to love long-term marriage just like you did when nobody was "f-ing" around with your rights and privileges.

In fact, some conservatives were encouraged with the 'fat,' opportunities, preferential treatment, benefits taken from other people who had their property/ities stripped from them, burned down, and "shit-canned" -yeah?!

 
 
 
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9.1.6  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.5    5 years ago

Let me be perfectly up front and honest to you.

I don't care about those in the black community that think it;s cool to kill someone just because, by those that have kids out of wedlock by the handful, and rely on the government to take care of them, nor do I care about those that kill their unborn because they are nothing more than a nuisance.

And you know what?

I feel the same about the same type of people in the white community, so to answer your "question", I never said that whites are not aborting babies, so stop putting words on my mouth, however, blacks are aborting at a far higher rate than every other race.

Maybe you can be active in stopping that.

 
 
 
CB
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9.1.7  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.3    5 years ago
Could you point out who today is making blacks act this way?

Some conservatives, let us enslave you for several centuries and after Reconstruction thrown all stripes and types of blockades and impediments to success down in the path to your prosperity and peace with family and friends. Let us watch and experiment with y'all living full generations off a "lil bit" of nothing- poor as dirt - wages under the floor, while we engage the world around our country in the wealth, power, influence, and knowledge of everything. . . .

Then you all might understand from experience why your "happy home" will be misshapen and warped. 

If that is what it is. Because we're doing fine. We have no choice but to be doing fine (up to now). Some conservatives have taught us to be fine just the way it is - because if it is up to some conservatives black family life never will be better off!

 
 
 
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9.1.9  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.6    5 years ago

And maybe just maybe y'all ain't got an excuse? Is that it? After all, y'all got uninterrupted family lines and ties, access to more money, family wealth, majority power, and perpetual influence and y'all can't persuade girls and women in the community to stop aborting your future lineage?

Excuse us Black Americans, if we take a few more "x" number of decades to get our family lives (back) together again as we continue being distracted and set upon in the struggle to get some conservatives damn feet off our collective 'necks,' wealth, power, and influence.

 
 
 
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9.1.10  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.8    5 years ago

What do some conservatives need Black babies for, XXJefferson? Be specific. What is some conservatives' interest in Black babies?  I don't have any child/ren and I am a black male. . . maybe I can help you out?   /s

Oh wait, you would need my black 'butt' to be married first as a prerequisite. And not LGBTQ. . . .  And Christ-centered. . . .  And a church-life. . . .  ad infinitum/ nauseam.

Maybe I ought to go to a sperm bank and make a non-descript 'charity' deposit?  /s

 
 
 
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9.1.11  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.6    5 years ago
rely on the government to take care of them

Why not? Some conservatives keep screwin over civil rights and won't increase wages! It could be said that some conservatives are feeding and privileging their kids with the 'stored up' wealth of the minorities y'all won't pay proper wages to for centuries!

I suggest some conservatives get 'yo' lie straight: Either some conservatives want Black Americans to have babies, proper homes to bring them up in, and personal wealth through our private sector supported by state and federal law (to ward off the many 'hard-cases' who never will do right unless somebody makes them) - or some conservatives want to continue to atrophy the systems and promulgate "project babies and houses," and to have the government do the 'will' of the people  and give aid -

because cheap, dirty, stingy, selfish, greedy, and/or racist some conservatives won't pony up any of the wealth they keep secret and lie "all day" about.

We're SUPPOSED  to be all Americans. All citizens. All working for a common goal of prosperity. But instead, some conservatives are literally and actually in competition to break and keep broke anybody (and everybody) who won't live like some conservatives do! It's pathetic and its been going on for centuries.

Racism is one sick, sorry, stupid puppy. And some of us got it bad!

 
 
 
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9.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.8    5 years ago

Factually, historically, demonstrably false, and just an outright lie!

 
 
 
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9.1.14  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.13    5 years ago

Your attempt at a deflection doesn't change the fact that your statement in 9.1.8 is still a lie. If nothing else, at least man up and own it!

 
 
 
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9.1.17  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.15    5 years ago
9.1.8 is completely and totally factually true.

You thinking something is true doesn't make it so.

Ah, the whole world would be so well of and better if only American conservatives didn’t exist.

I'm not sure about the whole world. But America? Probably.

 
 
 
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9.1.18  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.16    5 years ago

Nope. Nothing is "all" anybody's fault. Let's just say that in the fault "ingredients" recipe some Conservatives are highly listed!

 
 
 
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9.1.19  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.7    5 years ago
Some conservatives

Of course, blame everyone else but yourselves.

 
 
 
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9.1.20  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.9    5 years ago
Excuse us Black Americans, if we take a few more "x" number of decades to get our family lives (back) together again as we continue being distracted and set upon in the struggle to get some conservatives damn feet off our collective 'necks,' wealth, power, and influence.

Name those conservatives that have their boots on your necks.

You really need to take responsibility for your actions. Most whites worked their way up from almost nothing, and earned everything they have today.....by working hard.

Why is it so difficult for the black community to do the same?

Most of the blacks that have figured this out are considered to be conservatives.....and other blacks and white liberals absolutely hate them.

 
 
 
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9.1.21  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.11    5 years ago
And some of us got it bad!

That's right....some do. that's why I implore blacks to get off the white liberal plantation called the democratic party. It will do them a world of good.

 
 
 
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9.1.22  bugsy  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1.14    5 years ago

Nope...he's telling the truth

In promoting birth control, she advanced a controversial "Negro Project," wrote in her autobiography about speaking to a Ku Klux Klan group and advocated for a eugenics approach to breeding for “the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction, of defective stocks — those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization.”

 
 
 
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9.1.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  bugsy @9.1.22    5 years ago

The tide has turned. The more informed PP thought leaders  have admitted Sanger was a racist and disassociated from her. It will take a little while for the marching orders to trickle down to the parrots, who will soon start posting that they always were repulsed by Sanger and never defended her...

 
 
 
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9.1.24  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.19    5 years ago

Well, all some conservatives have to do is STOP LYING, CHEATING, AND STEALING and TURNING POOR WHITES AGAINST BLACK AMERICAN LIBERALS and we may finally get a chance to see just what our problem areas are WITHOUT some conservative 'handiwork'! Until some conservatives can make that happen minorities, women, LGBTQ, and secularists   are going to figuratively be a (hot) boil on some conservatives butts ripe for bustin'.

 
 
 
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9.1.25  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.20    5 years ago

If some conservatives are this deficient in current politics, how the "h" do you know politics of 'old'? I will school some conservatives when (and only when) I have time left over in the days coming!

 
 
 
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9.1.26  CB  replied to  CB @9.1.25    5 years ago

In fact, let's go backward and come forward with what conservatives then thought the Constitution of the United States thought of "Negroes."

A history exercise: ( a snippet: Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 US 393 - Supreme Court 1857 )

407 In the opinion of the court , the legislation and histories of the times , and the language used in the Declaration of Independence , show, that neither the class of persons who had been imported as slaves, nor their descendants, whether they had become free or not, were then acknowledged as a part of the people, nor intended to be included in the general words used in that memorable instrument.

It is difficult at this day to realize the state of public opinion in relation to that unfortunate race , which prevailed in the civilized and enlightened portions of the world at the time of the Declaration of Independence, and when the Constitution of the United States was framed and adopted. But the public history of every European nation displays it in a manner too plain to be mistaken.

They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations ; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit .

He was bought and sold , and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic , whenever a profit could be made by it . This opinion was at that time fixed and universal in the civilized portion of the white race. It was regarded as an axiom in morals as well as in politics, which no one thought of disputing, or supposed to be open to dispute; and men in every grade and position in society daily and habitually acted upon it in their private pursuits, as well as in matters of public concern, without doubting for a moment the correctness of this opinion.

408 And in no nation was this opinion more firmly fixed or more uniformly acted upon than by the English Government and English people. They not only seized them on the coast of Africa, and sold them or held them in slavery for their own use; but they took them as ordinary articles of merchandise to every country where they could make a profit on them, and were far more extensively engaged in this commerce than any other nation in the world.

Let's understand something. Blacks were here. We were not permitted by law to "work our way up" from the beginning. In fact, we were not respected in any way for the bare-bones we had by "the white man." Mr. Chief Justice TANEY delivered the opinion of the court.and in doing so formally describes the constitutional 'times' as they surely existed on record.

So "60344667399b977b6cd5d85445f91674.gif " goes the running untruth: "Most whites worked their way up from almost nothing, and earned everything they have today.....by working hard."

Negroes worked hard and in most cases even harder than "most whites" because they had no choice otherwise - and still they were not RESPECTED—by state and federal laws.

 
 
 
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9.1.27  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.21    5 years ago

Implore all you want. We're smarter than. . . that! Some conservatives are self-deluded and following the directions of a mad, lunatic, who thinks he is still a president the world should care about. And it gets worse, the whole some conservatives 'party' has 'gone after' a lunatic former president who so despises the truth that he utters "Big Lie" storytelling at rallies and can't attend a legal proceeding because it is like 'holy water' to a vampire!

We can't be that dumb if we practiced "dummy-down" every day for the rest of our liberal lives!

Oh, and don't worry some conservatives' pretty heads about our 'plantation' - it's diversified. And full of all the vibrant colors and hues of a multi-faceted diamond!

 
 
 
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9.1.28  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.22    5 years ago

Well, she was wrong and is dead now; I am pretty sure she is not much in-charge of anything in planning. Aren't some conservatives cute for pretending like she is still "soldiering" on from the grave!

 
 
 
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9.1.29  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.24    5 years ago
Well, all some conservatives have to do is STOP LYING, CHEATING, AND STEALING and TURNING POOR WHITES AGAINST BLACK AMERICAN LIBERALS

And there it is again....

Blame everybody else for black liberal failures. Not a good look.

 
 
 
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9.1.30  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.25    5 years ago
I will school some conservatives when (and only when) I have time left over in the days coming!

You n ever have before.

Why start now?

 
 
 
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9.1.31  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.30    5 years ago

Why not? It's a "free" country" eh?

 
 
 
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9.1.32  Gordy327  replied to  bugsy @9.1.22    5 years ago
Nope...he's telling the truth

That would be a first. But not this time.

In promoting birth control

Ms. Sanger advocated responsible family planning, which would help end the cycle of poverty many women experienced as a result of having large families, or the associated health risks that come with many pregnancies. She also advocated education about birth control at a time when such topics were considered taboo and not spoken about. Her position on eugenics is well known and also corresponds with the general public views about eugenics at the time.

 
 
 
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9.1.33  CB  replied to  CB @9.1.26    5 years ago

So 60344667399b977b6cd5d85445f91674.gif       goes the running untruth: "Most whites worked their way up from almost nothing, and earned everything they have today.....by working hard."

Negroes worked hard and in most cases even harder than "most whites" because they had no choice otherwise - and still they were not RESPECTED—by state and federal laws.

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Black reconstruction in America

It must be that the White group of laborers, while they received a low wage, were compensated in part by a sort of public and psychological wage. They were given public deference and titles of courtesy because they were white. They were admitted freely with all classes of white people to public functions, public parks, and the best schools.

The police were drawn from their ranks, and the courts, dependent upon their votes, treated them with such leniency as to encourage lawlessness. Their vote selected public officials, and while this had small effect upon the economic situation, it had great effect upon their personal treatment and the deference shown them.

White schoolhouses were the best in the community, and conspicuously placed, and they cost anywhere from twice to ten times as much per capital as the colored schools. The newspapers specialized on news that flattered the poor whites and almost utterly ignored the Negro except in crime and ridicule.

On the other hand, in the same way, the Negro was subject to public insult; was afraid of mobs; was liable to the jibes of children and the unreasoning fears of white women; and was compelled almost continuously to submit to various badges of inferiority.

The result of this was that the wages of both classes could be kept low , the whites fearing to be supplanted by Negro labor, the Negroes always being threatened by the substitution of white labor.

Black Reconstruction In America, by Du Bois, W.E.B. Pgs. 1868-1963 ; 700-701.

 
 
 
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9.1.34  bugsy  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1.32    5 years ago

Maybe you need to read the article to see who Margaret Sanger really was.

I don't think you really understand what she did to attempt to eradicate blacks.

 
 
 
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9.1.35  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.34    5 years ago

She didn't succeed. She is dead and gone. And yet, thou protesteth? How dead does a person have to be (and she did not "eugenic" up to and touching her death anyway.) There is no news here regarding her. You are just here desperately trying to get a rise out of. . . somebody. Epic failure.

 
 
 
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9.1.36  Gordy327  replied to  bugsy @9.1.34    5 years ago

I've read the article and it's just an OPINION piece written by a politician with a political bias. I'll stick to historical facts and not some individual with an obvious agenda. 

 
 
 
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9.1.37  bugsy  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1.36    5 years ago
I've read the article and it's just an OPINION piece written by a politician with a political bias.

Don't know where you got that the author is a politician

Kristan Hawkins is president of Students for Life of America.

Just by saying that shows you DID NOT read the article.

If you really read it, you would have seen the historical REAL letters by Sanger herself, that advocated for the non hire of a black physician, putting her racism on full display. Take this excerpt for instance.

"In a 1939 letter to Dr. C. J. Gamble , Sanger urged him to get over his reluctance to hire “a full time Negro physician” as the “colored Negroes…can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubt.”.........or her want to destroy the black population...

"Sanger urged Dr. Gamble to enlist the help of spiritual leaders to justify their deadly work, writing, “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

You made the attempt to get one on me......but failed.

 
 
 
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9.1.38  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.35    5 years ago
She didn't succeed

You're right...and thankfully so, however, the black community today is trying to off themselves through abortion and killing each other.

 
 
 
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9.1.39  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.38    5 years ago

And so what is it to some conservatives? You want more LIBERAL babies. . . wait. . . you might be on to something! /s 

And, while we are fixin' our 'internals' -thank you for caring about us!  We need all the support we can get.  /s

 
 
 
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9.1.40  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.39    5 years ago
And, while we are fixin' our 'internals'

But your not...

 
 
 
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9.1.41  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.40    5 years ago

Now you're simply spouting "indulgence." The good news is I don't have to persuade some conservatives of anything. And, I don't have to persuade girls and women to give up privacy or their lives to have babies on some conservative's time-line. Y'all want more babies: Spread 'yo-self' around more. Raise your majority!

Moving on.

 
 
 
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9.1.42  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.41    5 years ago

I don't even know what the heck you are talking about.

Good thing you re moving on.

 
 
 
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9.1.43  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.42    5 years ago

Yes. It's good! (Smile.)

 
 
 
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9.1.44  CB  replied to  CB @9.1.26    5 years ago

Now how about those hard-working "mostly whites," bugsy?

 
 
 
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9.1.47  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.46    5 years ago

That's insane. Some conservatives clearly take Black Americans for fools. But any increase in your minority roster (no matter how slight) MUST seen monumental for y'all. No one is deceived, nevertheless. Some conservatives have a scoundrel for a party 'boss': Donald J. Trump. And that speaks to y'all's representation and association. Also, it follows what mindset of minority inclusion is rallying to your cause. For goodness sake, the self-deluded leader of the party can't stop lying even when the jig is up! And nor can his followers.

 
 
 
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9.1.49  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.48    5 years ago

Some conservatives are following a madman! Minorities can't afford and it is not in their best interest to do that. Besides, some conservatives are throwing overboard good conservatives for a rotten 'core' of dense supporters of a madman. What does that say about some conservatives? Anyway, when the truth catches up to Donald and his "synchs" were will the former GOP be?

 
 
 
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9.1.50  Gordy327  replied to  bugsy @9.1.37    5 years ago
Don't know where you got that the author is a politician

Check the link. Rep. Burgess Owens, a conservative politician. Also check the source: the Daily Wire. A well known right wing news site known to publish erroneous or misleading articles, and has been called out and exposed as such. So any credibility there is quite questionable at best.

If you really read it, you would have seen the historical REAL letters by Sanger herself, that advocated for the non hire of a black physician, putting her racism on full display.

I am familiar with them. You do realize racism and segregation was prevalent in society back in those days, right? So it made sense at the time to have an African-American physician administer to the African-American community, as such physicians might be more easily approachable and trusted by the community. It seems you are not taking societal norms or views of the time into account. Furthermore, Ms. Sanger was hoping to promote birth control among the African-American community. Promotion and education of birth control for women has been her primary goal since the beginning.

You made the attempt to get one on me......but failed.

Sorry, but I don't play 'gotcha' games.

 
 
 
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9.1.51  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.45    5 years ago
Many on the left don’t read the seeds they post  to before responding to their content.  

To whom are you referring?

 
 
 
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9.1.52  bugsy  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1.50    5 years ago
Check the link. Rep. Burgess Owens, a conservative politician

The AUTHOR of the article is Kristan Hawkins, not Owens.

"You do realize racism and segregation was prevalent in society back in those days, right? "

So then you believe, because racism and segregation was prevalent in society in those days, then slavery was prevalent in society in the 1800s, so it is to be accepted and we should just move on?

I agree.

 
 
 
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9.1.56  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.54    5 years ago
You know it’s against the coc to call one or more out or name names.  Nice try.  

I asked you a question. I didn't call you a name.

Rep. Burgess Owens is an African American Republican congressman from the state of Utah. 

Yes, I am aware of who he is. What's your point?

 
 
 
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9.1.57  Gordy327  replied to  bugsy @9.1.52    5 years ago
The AUTHOR of the article is Kristan Hawkins, not Owens.

and By Rep Burgess Owens. Check the link! And it doesn't alter the questionable source either!

So then you believe, because racism and segregation was prevalent in society in those days, then slavery was prevalent in society in the 1800s, so it is to be accepted and we should just move on?

That is not what I said. You are creating a strawman.

 
 
 
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9.1.58  bugsy  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1.57    5 years ago
and By Rep Burgess Owens. Check the link!

I checked the entire article with the links, and nowhere does it mention Owens.

Even if it was written by him, it doesn't change the facts that Sanger was a white racist (democrat) and advocated for the elimination of blacks through abortion.

There is no way to get around this.

 
 
 
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9.1.59  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.58    5 years ago

And this needs your, our, continuing validation to modify what exactly? The world is full of repentant people. Oh, current exception: Donald J. Trump, he says he is Christian without repenting of any of his past and present conduct. You validate him and his recurring lies certainly.

 
 
 
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9.1.60  bugsy  replied to  CB @9.1.59    5 years ago

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 
 
 
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9.1.61  CB  replied to  bugsy @9.1.60    5 years ago

No worries. It's 4th of July 2021. You're figure it out. . . later.

 
 

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