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Crenshaw Rails at Biden Vaccine Mandate: ‘Are You People Trying to Start A Full On Revolt?’

  
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Crenshaw Rails at Biden Vaccine Mandate: ‘Are You People Trying to Start A Full On Revolt?’
“Are you people trying to start a full on revolt? Honestly what the hell is wrong with Democrats? Leave people the hell alone. This is insanity,” Crenshaw noted on Twitter. “Mandates are cheap governance. The right path is built upon explaining, educating, and *building* trust, including explaining the risks/benefits/pros/cons in an honest way so a person can make their own decision. The Biden Administration has completely failed in that regard,” he continued.

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Talk about creepy big government sleepy Joe style.  Joe is going all in with dystopian big brother on this and other issues like Jim’s bank account seed. Big government progressive democrats are trying to seize power away from we the people and concentrate it in a few secular progressive elites hands.  That’s what the mandate fight is all about.  Big blue national state and city political leaders trying to play god over the common citizen.  Well, we are sovereign here.  They are our public servants.  We are not their subjects and we will use every legal means to assure that it stays that way.  


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Crenshaw Rails at Biden Vaccine Mandate: ‘Are You People Trying to Start A Full On Revolt?’



by Jonathan Davis about 5 hours agoupdated about 2 hours ago


Rep. Dan Crenshaw tore into Joe Biden and his administration following the president’s Thursday address in which he announced he was implementing a mandate for most companies to require their employees to get a COVID-19 vaccine or face thousands of dollars in fines per employee.

The Texas Republican’s comments came after Biden made his announcement Thursday afternoon in an address from the White House in which he appeared to blame new rises in COVID cases on unvaccinated Americans.

“Many of us are frustrated with the nearly 80 million Americans who are still not vaccinated, even though the vaccine is safe, effective, and free,” Biden said .

“This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” Biden went on to claim.

“And it’s caused by the fact that despite America having an unprecedented and successful vaccination program, despite the fact that for almost five months free vaccines have been available in 80,000 different locations, we still have nearly 80 million Americans who have failed to get the shot,” he said.

“My job as president is to protect all Americans. So tonight, I’m announcing that the Department of Labor is developing an emergency rule to require all employers with 100 or more employees that together employ over 80 million workers to ensure their workforces are fully vaccinated or show a negative test at least once a week,” Biden added.

The president’s mandate did not sit well with Crenshaw, a former U.S. Navy SEAL officer and combat veteran.

“Are you people trying to start a full on revolt? Honestly what the hell is wrong with Democrats? Leave people the hell alone. This is insanity,” Crenshaw noted on Twitter .

“Mandates are cheap governance. The right path is built upon explaining, educating, and *building* trust, including explaining the risks/benefits/pros/cons in an honest way so a person can make their own decision. The Biden Administration has completely failed in that regard,” he continued.

“Our founders designed a system that treated citizens as more than just children. Our grand experiment is designed for a free people,” he added.

“Yes, that entails risk. Yes, I’ll take risk and freedom over a paternalistic government any day,” he wrote .

“And it should be noted, a huge portion of the unvaccinated are younger minorities. So this impacts a broad range of people, not just ‘anti-vaxxer Trump supporters,’ as Dems believe,” the Texas Republican said.

“Democrats are declaring war on everyone, not just conservatives.”

It’s not clear if Biden’s order will withstand legal scrutiny, but it’s likely to be tested, as several Republican governors have expressed opposition and have vowed to fight it.

“Biden’s vaccine mandate is an assault on private businesses. I issued an Executive Order protecting Texans’ right to choose whether they get the COVID vaccine & added it to the special session agenda. Texas is already working to halt this power grab,” Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said on Twitter.

“How could we get to the point in this country where you would not let them earn a living because of their choice on the vaccine?” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis added. “I just think that’s fundamentally wrong. I do not believe that people should lose their jobs over this issue, and we will fight that.”

“I will pursue every legal option available to the state of Georgia to stop this blatantly unlawful overreach by the Biden administration,” Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp said.

“South Dakota will stand up to defend freedom,” South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem noted. “Joe Biden see you in court.”







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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago
“Our founders designed a system that treated citizens as more than just children. Our grand experiment is designed for a free people,” he added.

“Yes, that entails risk. Yes, I’ll take risk and freedom over a paternalistic government any day,” he wrote .

“And it should be noted, a huge portion of the unvaccinated are younger minorities. So this impacts a broad range of people, not just ‘anti-vaxxer Trump supporters,’ as Dems believe,” the Texas Republican said.

“Democrats are declaring war on everyone, not just conservatives.”

It’s not clear if Biden’s order will withstand legal scrutiny, but it’s likely to be tested, as several Republican governors have expressed opposition and have vowed to fight it.

“Biden’s vaccine mandate is an assault on private businesses. I issued an Executive Order protecting Texans’ right to choose whether they get the COVID vaccine & added it to the special session agenda. Texas is already working to halt this power grab,” Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said on Twitter.

“How could we get to the point in this country where you would not let them earn a living because of their choice on the vaccine?” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis added. “I just think that’s fundamentally wrong. I do not believe that people should lose their jobs over this issue, and we will fight that.”

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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Biden’s Medical Tyranny – Ben Garrison Cartoon

Obey Or Else

Ben Garrison September 10, 2021

Obey Or Else

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Ozzwald
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2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2    4 years ago

Yeah, how dare Biden force them not to die and not to kill others around them.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    4 years ago

I know, right? It's almost as if some people don't care if the pandemic drags on or if they infect others. After all, they only seem to think of themselves and not what's better for the country. What did JFK once say, "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." 

It seems some don't care about their country. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.1    4 years ago

We do care about the country as founded in 1776 and keeping it as close as possible to our founding principles and the amendments along the way to building a more perfect Union.  Those willing to give up liberty for presumed security will have and deserve neither.  

 
 
 
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2.1.3  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago

You would not have had a 1776 if Washington had not vaccinated all of his troops.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    4 years ago

Biden’s ‘America Last’ Agenda

Carrots For China, Sticks For U.S. Citizens

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

Twenty years after 9/11, a plague from China rampages across our homeland. To date, COVID-19 has killed over 230 times more Americans than did those terrorist attacks.

Yet our government, led entirely by President Joe Biden and Democrats in Congress, refuses to confront China over its involvement in killing so many Americans. Democrats remain shockingly uncurious about the origin of the virus.

Instead, they direct all their rage at American citizens.

“Anti-vaxxers!” they cry. Government bureaucrats, power-drunk doctors, and the screaming weenies in the American press wring their hands over so-called “vaccine-hesitancy.”

A person today can take every vaccine known to man and inoculate their children against every disease ever feared — yet they suddenly become some kind of crazed “anti-vaxxer” because they have a few questions about this new miracle drug that does not work exactly as we have been promised.

Obviously, this “hesitancy” has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines in general or even this vaccine in particular. Rather, it has everything to do with the people who are peddling it most furiously.

If the local crack dealer in your neighborhood comes by the house offering to sell you some homegrown oregano for your spice cabinet, you are probably not going to buy it. No matter how badly you might need some oregano at that very moment.

Democrats today — the official party of crack dealers everywhere — would attack you for “anti-Italian bigotry” if you declined to buy the homegrown oregano from the local crack dealer.

It’s like the line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid — which, after the Holy Bible and The Art of the Deal, is the wellspring of all the wisdom you will ever need to know.

After Butch uses too much dynamite to blow up the safe on Mr. E.H. Harriman’s railroad car, a posse of horsemen bursts out of another one of Mr. E.H. Harriman’s train cars.

Butch and Sundance watch the mystery horsemen thunder towards them as paper money still flutters to the ground. Confused — but mainly concerned — Butch announces, “Whatever they’re sellin’, I don’t want it!” And the gang wisely turns tail and gallops off, leaving their fluttering loot behind.

And that is precisely what is going on with this vaccine in America today.

You literally have a plague from China that has killed a half-million Americans and a miracle potion to reverse it. But since it is Mr. Biden and the Democrats — along with their evil propagandists in the media — are the ones peddling it, people don’t want anything to do with it. 

What does that say about the faith the American people have in their government and the Fourth Estate?

It’s like a man’s house could be on fire, and these people could pull up in a fire truck, and the man would shoo them away. He would rather risk death and poverty than trust these people to put out his burning house.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden, power-starved bureaucrats and screaming press weenies openly talk about using the “carrot and stick” approach to force recalcitrant American citizens who remain reluctant to take the jab they’re pushing.

“Biden’s vaccination push now wields both the carrot and the stick,” reports NBC News.

“Vaccinations: No more carrot — bring out the stick,” warns another headline.

Because, really, nothing assures Americans more than being called obstinate donkeys to be lured along with their heavy burdens by a bundle of carrots — carrots they never actually get to enjoy. And if that doesn’t work, beat them with a stick.

Meet the new American Taliban government — same as the old Taliban.

• Charles Hurt is the opinion editor at the Washington Times.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    4 years ago

They are two roughly identical articles on the same topic.  Had I viewed the one above first, I’d have seeded it instead.  Seeding both would be a waste of seeds on the same topic. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.1    4 years ago
It's almost as if some people don't care if the pandemic drags on or if they infect others.

Plague Enthusiasts.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.8  Gordy327  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.7    4 years ago
Plague Enthusiasts.

Indeed. Reckless, irresponsible, stupid! I don't get the mentality.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago
We do care about the country as founded in 1776 and keeping it as close as possible to our founding principles and the amendments along the way to building a more perfect Union.  Those willing to give up liberty for presumed security will have and deserve neither.  

More BS! It's not about liberty or security. It's about ending a pandemic and saving lives. Hello! jrSmiley_123_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.1.10  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.4    4 years ago

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Thrawn 31
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2.1.11  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago

Husker, honestly, what have you ever sacrificed for this country? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2    4 years ago

It’s too bad he doesn’t have an AR-15 version of that gun. Now there’s a mass shooting we could all benefit from.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    4 years ago

No thanks….

 
 
 
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3  Gsquared    4 years ago

The lunatic minority who refuse to get vaccinated are restricting the freedom of everyone else from living our normal lives.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1  Gordy327  replied to  Gsquared @3    4 years ago

They're also prolonging this pandemic, putting other people at risk, and are to blame for why there are variants arising and for the enduring pandemic. Mandates may not be popular. But opposing them when it can help end the pandemic and potentially save lives is stupid and irresponsible. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1    4 years ago

The variants are arising due to the nature of the engineered virus released from the wuhan lab in China.  It was created to mutate in waves one after the other as soon as one recedes the new one has a wave and there’s two more variants ready to hit, the latter may well be resistant to existing vaccines.  Then democrats will try to lock us down again.  But we won’t let them.

 
 
 
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3.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    4 years ago

Good grief man, the mutation is a product of evolution.   You know, that pseudoscience / worldwide conspiracy that you claim.    It is not controlled, it is (from our perspective) random and unpredictable.

Further, where do you get this utter nonsense that it is possible today for human beings to engineer a virus with preprogrammed waves of mutations that magically are emitted based on information about the the degree of infection in the population?   You cannot possibly believe that nonsense.   Or do you?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    4 years ago

Not evolution in this case, human engineering.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.3    4 years ago

Your comments express a fundamental misunderstanding of evolution and of the capabilities of biological engineering.   You need to find a different source for your 'truth' because what you are expressing is beyond naive.

Ponder this, how could an engineered virus acquire information so that it knows its current variant is waning and thus must now 'magically' produce a new variant?

All one need do is think just a tiny bit and one would see that what you propose is impossible.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    4 years ago
The variants are arising due to the nature of the engineered virus released from the wuhan lab in China.

Come on now. All viruses mutate. Do you not know that?

Even if what you claim is true (and you have no evidence for it, but let’s assume for fun that it’s true), shouldn’t we still try to fight the virus by vaccinating everybody? It’s like anything - viruses, global warming, pollution, crime. We can argue about where it came from, but we still need to do something about it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.5    4 years ago

I agree that we should try to persuade everyone with accurate education and objective facts without emotion or blame that they should take the Trump vaccine.  I made the choice to take it before the irrational and the vindictive became the vaccines promoters. We are close to herd immunity among adults at major levels of risk.  I’m not going to support coercion to make people people do things against their will when he cause vaccinated people no real risk.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    4 years ago

It is a basic Chinese economic bioweapon not as lethal as a military one that escaped the lab that can do things a purely natural virus can not.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.7    4 years ago

This is like reasoning with a rock.   What you have described is impossible.   Your sources are wrong.   What you imagine cannot possibly exist.   Do some real research.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    4 years ago

Wow, that's some grade A conspiracy theory BS right there! Do you even understand anything about virology or how viruses function? Viruses naturally mutate into different variants from infected individuals. The more people that are infected, the greater the chance for mutations. That's why there are so many different strains of Flu. It's a natural process.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.8    4 years ago
This is like reasoning with a rock. 

There is no reasoning. Just sheer delusion. That's the problem.

Do some real research.

I'll bet the  only "research" will be from conservative, conspiracy and/or religious sources.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.9    4 years ago

Even worse, a virus is not a life form and certainly does not have cognitive abilities as he described.   It is as if he thinks China created a nanobot virus that can sense the environment, calculate when infections are waning in society, and then engineer a new variant to re-infect the population.

It is beyond ridiculous.   Where do such crazy notions come from?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.11    4 years ago
It is beyond ridiculous. 

That's putting it mildly.

  Where do such crazy notions come from?

Oh, I can name a couple ways. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2  Ronin2  replied to  Gsquared @3    4 years ago

Right.

The vaccinated can spread Covid just as easily as the unvaccinated.

Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise.

“People who have a Delta virus and happen to have ‘breakthrough’ infections can carry these really high levels of virus, and can unwittingly spread the virus to others,” says David O’Connor, a virologist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.

The findings underscore the importance of protective measures such as wearing masks indoors to reduce transmission. Researchers stress that COVID-19 vaccines are protective against serious illness and death, but the data on Delta transmission show that “people who are vaccinated still need to take precautions”, O’Connor says.

So you still need to wear a mask and practice social distancing even if you are fully vaccinated.

If Democrats really cared about stopping the spread of Covid then they would end the single biggest ongoing super spreader event on the southern border. Seems the left can't comprehend the spike in Covid 19 infection rates started at the same time the surge in illegal border crossings did. Of course to prove it Biden would have to allow testing on all illegals apprehended at the border; not just if they are showing symptoms. He would not dump responsibility of testing those departing detention centers on the states- who only bother testing the largest centers. Of course getting real data would bring a lot more unwanted attention to both the border crisis and what is really causing the spike in Covid cases. 

More than 18 percent of migrant families and 20 percent of unaccompanied minors who recently crossed the U.S. border tested positive for Covid on leaving Border Patrol custody over the past two to three weeks, according to a document prepared this week for a Thursday briefing with President Joe Biden .

Some flights scheduled to deport migrants had more than 25 percent of passengers test positive before departure, leading Immigration and Customs Enforcement to remove those migrants from the flights for quarantine in the U.S., according to the document.

The Department of Homeland Security document does not give precise dates or say how many migrants were tested.

Migrants are not tested for Covid in Border Patrol custody unless they show symptoms, but all are tested when they leave Border Patrol custody, according to DHS officials. Immigrants who are allowed to stay in the U.S. to claim asylum are given tests when they are transferred to ICE, Health and Human Services or non-governmental organizations. Deportees who are scheduled to be put on planes out of the U.S. are tested for Covid and other infectious diseases by ICE.

The cases in the Rio Grande Valley sector detention facilities now account for 60% of all detainees confirmed to have COVID-19 and are under CBP’s care, Fox News reported Tuesday. The striking figure regarding the RGV sector, one of the busiest sections of the border through which thousands of people cross daily, comes as the Biden administration contends with a worsening crisis at the southern border.

The number of noncitizens encountered by law enforcement in June, nearly 190,000 people, is the highest counted in more than 21 years. Of that total, roughly 105,000 people were sent back to Mexico and denied asylum. Border Patrol counted 113,000 adults, 15,000 unaccompanied children, and 50,000 people traveling as part of a family group last month.

The number of illegal migrant apprehensions has been ticking up monthly since March 2020 and ballooned this spring as President Joe Biden loosened a pandemic-era policy stipulating that no one who came across is detained but instead be turned back to Mexico. The monthly tally of new border crossings swelled as Biden began rolling back some Trump-era border restrictions put in place last year that aimed to prevent further spread of COVID-19 in the United States.

Border officials do not typically test detainees at the southern border. Rather, detainees are tested after they are transferred to other locations, such as other government-run facilities. Unaccompanied migrant children, for instance, are placed in the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health of Human Services, where they can be tested.

Vaccination rates in Central American countries where most migrants come from are significantly lower than those in the U.S., prompting fears that an influx of unvaccinated people at the southern border could exacerbate the spread of the highly transmissible delta variant now responsible for about 83% of active cases in the U.S.

Of course immigrants are slow to get vaccinated as well.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently announced that, starting October 1, 2021, green card applicants will be required to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19. Meanwhile, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis demanded the Biden administration provide personal information on undocumented migrants being relocated to Florida, including names, addresses and the number of people who tested positive for Covid-19 or refused the vaccine. These two developments pinpoint one of the main challenges of immigrants in the United States and the rate at which they are getting vaccinated. That challenge is that there is a substantial disparity in vaccination rates between undocumented immigrants on the one hand, and U.S. citizens and lawful residents on the other. Based on a recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey only about 25 % of "potentially undocumented" immigrants in the United States received their vaccine. This proportion of vaccinated individuals is half of the average vaccine rate of U.S. adults. The discrepancy is primarily due to the fear of deportation and lack of accessibility of undocumented immigrants to government programs.

Blame your fellow countrymen by all means; instead of where it really belongs, with Joe Biden and his asinine policies that are putting everyone at risk.

Never let reality get in the way of a Democrat self made crisis. 

 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    4 years ago
Never let reality get in the way of a Democrat self made crisis. 

or a power grab…

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    4 years ago

Oh my fucking god.... 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.2.2    4 years ago

He’s exactly right!  I’m glad that there’s a God in your life now.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @3    4 years ago

A great and well written piece.  It perfectly describes the opinion of most conservatives and libertarians all across America.  We are in complete and total all out resistance not to the vaccine as many of us have taken it, but to its pushers and their tools and methods used to try to coerce the hesitant into giving up their God given rights.  Trump would never have resorted to these kind of authoritarian measures to compel people to take his vaccine.  He believed in individual and states rights.  Those of us who believe in those now whether we took the vaccine or voluntarily wear a mask or not will go to the mat with this President over this issue come what may to try to protect individual and local rights from the Orwellian dystopia that I’d the Biden regime and democrat congress.  Don’t like it, send in the tanks and end the facade of the republic.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.3.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.1    4 years ago

I agree that that’s the content of post 3.3.1

 
 
 
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3.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @3    4 years ago

I got vaccinated but I’m not about to force others to do so too.  I made my choice they made theirs.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.4.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.4    4 years ago

That's why we collectively formed a government to force people to stop killing others. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.4.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  cjcold @3.4.1    4 years ago

lol, oh you fucking lunatic. Stating obvious things

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.4.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.4    4 years ago

And that is why I still have to wear a mask. Thanks [deleted]

 
 
 
JBB
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3.4.4  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.4    4 years ago

original

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.4.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @3.4.1    4 years ago

Like preborn babies? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.4.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.4.4    4 years ago

Not in the exceptional America I live in!  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    4 years ago
“This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” Biden went on to claim.

”Claim?” Is that mean to imply that this in dispute?

“Are you people trying to start a full on revolt?

Are you trying to see how many Americans we can allow to die from Covid? “The greatest country on Earth” has by far the most Covid deaths. Are you proud of that? I’m not.

Honestly what the hell is wrong with Democrats?

What the hell is wrong with you ? Do you enjoy seeing children in Intensive Care?

Pediatric Covid hospitalizations surge to highest on record in U.S. as doctors brace for more

Leave people the hell alone.

Gladly. Stay your vaccine-hating, pandemic-death-loving ass at home until those of us who actually give a shit about the health of our fellow human beings get this problem solved. Or better yet just move to some enemy country where they hate American lives as much as you do.

Yes, I’ll take risk

You don’t get to decide that for other people.

“How could we get to the point in this country where you would not let them earn a living because of their choice on the vaccine?”

We don’t let drug dealers earn a living either. Where are the cries of “FREEDOM!” for people who just want to mind their own business and make a nice living selling Meth, Heroine, and Fentanyl? Where are the cries of “FREEDOM!” for prostitutes? For migrants? For the homeless?

How come you’ll fight a war on drugs and sex for 50 fuckin years , but you won’t stand up and fight a virus? You’ll like people up for decades for those things, but you can’t find the stones to get stabbed with a little needle? Coward!

We have had mandatory vaccines for all sorts of things for decades. For going to school, getting certain jobs, etc. Join the military and they will jam half a dozen needles into your arm the very first week. But suddenly in 2021, this veteran thinks vaccines are controversial?

Bullshit! I have never in my life seen such an irresponsible politicized abuse of Freedom.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4    4 years ago
Bull⋅! I have never in my life seen such an irresponsible politicized abuse of Freedom.

It is never irresponsible or an abuse to defend freedom, individual rights, and liberty.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    4 years ago
It is never irresponsible or an abuse to defend freedom, individual rights, and liberty.  

I see. Then I will put you down as supporting a person’s right to have multiple spouses; sex with minors; go about naked in public; make, sell, or consume any drugs they like; defecate in public . . . Shall I go on?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.1    4 years ago

Don’t be ridiculous.  There are no comparisons of your apples with my orange.  Though now that we can have gay marriage we might as well have polygamy as well.  Ones no worse or better than the other.  Both are immoral wrongs.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1.3  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    4 years ago

Pretty sure that passing along a deadly disease is also immoral.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    4 years ago

Lol oh man, got an easy repeat offender here. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    4 years ago

Hold on. You’re the one who said  

It is never irresponsible or an abuse to defend freedom, individual rights, and liberty.  

Now, you still haven’t explained why you see a difference, but it’s apparent to me that you only care about defending the freedoms you want to defend. Other freedoms you don’t care about aren’t worthy of defense.

Furthermore, you apparently see that other people’s freedoms might be subject to reasonable limitations, but not yours.

You also don’t seem to care about how the exercise of your freedom might impact other people. Is that supposed to be a Christian attitude?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.5    4 years ago

More Than Half of America Has United in Opposition to Biden’s Federal Vaccine Mandates

by Kyle Becker about 12 hours agoupdated about 6 hours ago

More than half of the governors or state attorney generals have come out in opposition to President Biden’s federal vaccine mandates that were issued on Thursday. Despite earlier promises to the contrary, the Biden administration issued the most sweeping federal mandates in U.S. history.

Twenty-seven states that have gone on the record in opposition to the federal vaccine mandates. Those statements are listed below.

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Alaska

Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy issued a statement .

“It is clear from the data and empirical evidence over the last year that the vaccine is the most effective way to fight Covid 19. From what we are seeing in our hospitals, the very ill are mostly those who are unvaccinated. As Governor, and as someone who had Covid and has been vaccinated, I will continue to recommend that Alaskans speak to their healthcare providers and discuss the merits of the vaccine based on their individual healthcare needs.”

“With that said, President Biden’s attempt to force vaccinations is ill conceived, divisive, and unamerican. At a time in which we are called to work together, forced medical procedures run counter to our collective sense of fairness and liberty. My administration is aggressively identifying every tool at our disposal to protect the inherent individual rights of all Alaskans.

“This is ridiculous and unenforceable. If there was ever a case for the 25th Amendment…,” Governor Dunleavy also tweeted.

Alabama

Alabama Governor Key Ivey spoke out about her intention to fight the mandate.

“I encourage Alabamians to take the vaccine – have been since the beginning, but we’re never going to mandate it,” Ivey said. “And we certainly aren’t going to allow Washington, D.C., and this president to tell Alabama what to do. Here in Alabama, we don’t put up with that nonsense.”

Ivey also posted a statement on Twitter about President Biden’s “outrageous, overreaching mandates.”

Arizona

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey also issued a statement in opposition to the federal government’s mandate.

“The Biden-Harris administration plans on fining businesses $14,000 for every employee not tested or vaccinated — but somehow they’ve exempted one of their largest federal agencies from the mandate?” Governor Ducey said, noting the USPS is ‘exempt.’

“Maybe it’s because they realize this is pure government overreach,” Ducey added. “Maybe it’s because they realize this will only make workforce shortages worse. Or maybe it’s simply a case of ‘rules for thee, not for me.’ It’s hypocrisy and Arizona will not stand for it.”

Arkansas

Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson has also issued a statement in opposition.

Florida

On Saturday, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis spoke out against the mandates.

“I would just say, generally, when you are taking action that is unconstitutional that threatens the jobs of people in my state, many, many thousands of jobs, I am standing for them, we are going to protect their jobs against federal overreach,” the governor said.

Earlier, DeSantis actually issued a statement in opposition to Biden’s executive order before it was officially issued.

“How could we get to the point in this country where you would not let them earn a living because of their choice on the vaccine?” Gov. DeSantis said. “I just think that’s fundamentally wrong. I do not believe that people should lose their jobs over this issue, and we will fight that.”

Georgia

Georgia’s Governor Brian Kemp responded to Biden’s remarks.

“I will pursue every legal option available to the state of Georgia to stop this blatantly unlawful overreach by the Biden administration,” Kemp tweeted.

Idaho

Idaho Gov. Brad Little also issued a statement, although it is unclear if the governor is planning legal action.

“Today’s actions from President Biden amount to government overreach,” Little wrote. “Government should stay out of decisions involving employers and their employees as much as possible. I’ve advocated for and championed fewer government regulations and mandates on business.”

Indiana

Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb came out in strong opposition to the Biden vaccine mandate.

“The announcement from President Biden is a bridge too far,” Holcomb said in a statement. “Private businesses should be able to look at their own mission, their staff and their goals and make the decision best for them that will keep their doors open. I believe it is fundamentally a citizen’s right to choose whether or not to get the vaccine. While I wish everyone would get the vaccine, we are a country built on this exact type of freedom.”

Indiana’s Attorney General Todd Rokita threatened a lawsuit if the federal government took action to violate Indiana citizens’ rights.

“My team and I, along with other like-minded attorneys general, are reviewing all legal action on how to stand against these authoritarian actions by the Biden administration,” Rokita said. “We will be prepared to file suit if Biden seeks illegal actions restricting Hoosiers’ liberties.”

Iowa

Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds also issued a statement in opposition, but it is not clear if the governor is planning on legal action.

“As I’ve said all along, I believe and trust in Iowans to make the best health decisions for themselves and their families,” Governor Reynolds wrote. “It’s time for President Biden to do the same. Enough is enough.”

Kansas

While Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly’s office said it is “reviewing” the executive order, state Attorney General Derek Schmidt issued a statement in direct opposition.

“President Biden yesterday scolded ‘this is not about freedom,’ but the rule of law most certainly is,” Schmidt said in a statement. “If the president’s overreaching rhetoric becomes federal action, then rest assured we will vigorously challenge it.”

Kentucky

While Kentucky has a Democratic Governor, the state’s attorney general has nonetheless questioned the constitutionality of the mandate.

Louisiana

While Louisiana has a Democratic governor, the state’s Attorney General Jeff Landry, who has fought university vaccine mandates in the past, has come out against Biden’s executive order.

Mississippi

Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves also declared his state’s opposition to the executive order.

“The President has no authority to require that Americans inject themselves because of their employment at a private business,” Governor Reeves wrote. “The vaccine itself is life-saving, but this unconstitutional move is terrifying. This is still America, and we still believe in freedom from tyrants.”

Missouri

Missouri Governor Mike Parson declared that his state would be standing up to the executive order.

“Vaccination protects us from serious illness, but the decision to get vaccinated is a private health care decision that should remain as such,” Governor Parson wrote. “My administration will always fight back against federal power grabs and government overreach that threatens to limit our freedoms.”

Governor Parson followed that up with a statement promising ‘strong legal action’ on ‘mulitple fronts.’

“I don’t plan on letting that happen in Missouri,” Parson said . “I think the president is totally wrong on the policy he’s setting forth.”

Montana

Montana Governor Greg Gianforte denounced the Biden mandate.

Nebraska

Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts also declared his state’s opposition to the federal government’s overreach.

“Americans, not the federal government, are responsible for taking charge of their personal health,” Ricketts wrote. “It is not the role of the federal government to mandate their choices. Nebraska will stand up…working with the Attorney General to explore all our options.”

New Hampshire

New Hampshire Gov. also issued scathing remarks against the vaccine mandate.

“Forcing people to choose between their jobs and livelihood or the vaccine is not an appropriate way to increase vaccine uptake…” “Yesterday’s actions by the Biden administration are another example of saying one thing, then doing another and creating instability and mistrust at a time when the American people need serious leadership,” Sununu said on Friday. “New Hampshire’s workforce, most especially in health care, is at a critical level and unilateral mandates by the federal government could lead to shortages in multiple areas that are already at grave risk.”

North Dakota

North Dakota Governor Greg Burgum issued a forceful statement in opposition.

“President Biden’s misguided plan steers our country down a dangerous path away from states’ rights and the freedom of private businesses to make their own decisions on vaccinations. We stand opposed to this blatant federal overreach,” Burgum said. “Safe, effective vaccines remain our best tool for preserving hospital capacity and ensuring access to care, but forcing a vaccine mandate on private employers is not the role of the state or federal government. “We have reached out to the North Dakota Attorney General’s Office to discuss options for mounting a legal challenge to this mandate, which goes against everything I believe as a governor, a business owner and an American,” Burgum continued. “The White House needs to be reminded that the states created the federal government, not the other way around, and we will always vigorously defend states’ rights.”

Ohio

Ohio Governor Mike DeWine gave a mildly reproachful statement that was nonethless principally in opposition to the vaccine mandate.

Oklahoma

Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt said, “as long as I am governor, there will be no government vaccine mandates in state.”

South Carolina

South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster also issued a statement declaring opposition to the mandates.

“The American Dream has turned into a nightmare under President Biden and the radical Democrats,” Governor McMaster wrote. “They have declared war against capitalism, thumbed their noses at the Constitution, and empowered our enemies abroad.”

“Rest assured, we will fight them to the gates of hell to protect the liberty and livelihood of every South Carolinian,” he added.

South Dakota

South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem also issued a statement in anticipation of Biden’s formal announcement.

“South Dakota will stand up to defend freedom,” Noem wrote. “Joe Biden see you in court.”

Tennessee

Tennessee’s Governor Bill Lee also stated his broad opposition to the federal mandate.

“The Constitution won’t allow this power grab, and in the meantime, I will stand up for all Tennesseans,” Gov. Lee wrote.

Texas

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced the state is already working to halt Biden’s vaccine mandate ‘power grab’.

“Biden’s vaccine mandate is an assault on private businesses,” Abbott said. “I issued an Executive Order protecting Texans’ right to choose whether they get the COVID vaccine & added it to the special session agenda. Texas is already working to halt this power grab.”

Utah

Utah Governor Spencer Cox issued a statement questioning the legality of the order.

“Getting vaccinated is the single most important thing people can do right now to protect ourselves and our community and reduce the spread of the Delta variant. While we support efforts that encourage vaccinations, we have serious concerns about the legality of the order.”

West Virginia

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice blasted Biden’s vaccine mandate.

“What President Biden is doing right now, coming out and saying that any employer that has more than 100 employees, making it mandatory that they get vaccinated and everything, I absolutely think that is wrong,” he said. “I am absolutely not in support of doing that in any way in the state of West Virginia.”

Wyoming

Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon also issued a statement saying: “Not now, and not ever.”

“The Biden Administration’s announcement to mandate COVID-19 vaccinations or weekly testing for private businesses is an egregious example of big government overreach.

Our Constitution was written and fought for to protect our liberties as American citizens. This administration’s latest pronouncement demonstrates its complete disregard for the rule of law and the freedoms individuals and private companies enjoy under our Constitution. In Wyoming, we believe that government must be held in check.

I have asked the Attorney General to stand prepared to take all actions to oppose this administration’s unconstitutional overreach of executive power. It has no place in America. Not now, and not ever.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.7    4 years ago

It is highly unlikely that all these low population red states add up to 
"more than half the country". 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.9  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.7    4 years ago

We lost 2448 people including 4 kids under the age of 16 last week. The moron governors are creating more cases and deaths. All fucking morons. DeSantis is the chief moron and you support this stupidity, sad commentary.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.10  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.7    4 years ago

Will not read. I have told you before.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    4 years ago

Low population states like Texas, Florida, Ohio, Georgia, Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @4.1.9    4 years ago

They are advocating that people make the free will choice to take the vaccine and that individuals and parents should make their own choice about masks.  Coercion is what is being resisted.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.10    4 years ago

Your loss.  It points out that my position on this is quite in the American mainstream.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.13    4 years ago

A lie, it speaks only of governers.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.15  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.12    4 years ago

More stupid crap flowing out of your mouth. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.16  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.13    4 years ago
It points out that my position on this is quite in the American mainstream.

Madness shared is still madness.

Think of all the positions you disagree with that are held by millions. Their popularity has not convinced you, and yet you try to use that as persuasion here. Have you forgotten that those who favor the vaccine outnumber those who don’t?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.17  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.12    4 years ago
Coercion is what is being resisted.

No, coercion only started two days ago. These maniacs have been resisting the vaccine for months.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.14    4 years ago

That’s the lie.  It also spoke about the attorneys general of these states.  Outside of the bicoastal urban areas and Chicago we are the mainstream.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.19  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.16    4 years ago

No.  I favor the vaccine.  Lest you forget.  A majority do not favor coercion regarding it.  That’s the big difference between most conservatives/libertarians who have taken it and most liberals who have done so.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.20  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.17    4 years ago

Coercion at the state and local level in many areas has been going on much longer.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Tacos! @4    4 years ago

Goddamn Tacos. I was gonna say something but.. goddamn tacos lol. 

 
 
 
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5  Thrawn 31    4 years ago

This guy is a faggot in the purest modern sense of the word.

 
 
 
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5    4 years ago

That means he’s a great American hero. 

 
 

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