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If Joe Biden fails this week, his entire domestic agenda is done for at least 15 months

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  5 years ago  •  25 comments

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If Joe Biden fails this week, his entire domestic agenda is done for at least 15 months
It's impossible to overstate the stakes of this week's legislative horse-trading for the remainder of Joe Biden's presidency. In fact, what happens this week on Capitol Hill will almost certainly make or break Biden's entire first-term legislative agenda -- and determine the case he and his party can take to voters in the 2022 midterms and beyond.

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It's impossible to overstate the stakes of this week's legislative horse-trading for the remainder of Joe Biden's presidency. In fact, what happens this week on Capitol Hill will almost certainly make or break Biden's entire first-term legislative agenda -- and determine the case he and his party can take to voters in the 2022 midterms and beyond.

e151e5.gif© Alex Wong/Getty Images WASHINGTON, DC - AUGUST 11: U.S. President Joe Biden speaks during an East Room event at the White House August 11, 2021 in Washington, DC. President Biden spoke on his Build Back Better agenda that "will lower costs for working families, generate economic growth, and create jobs." (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)

First, let's set the scene.

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There are two pieces of legislation moving through Congress -- both chambers of which are controlled by Democrats -- at the moment.

1. The bipartisan Infrastructure bill: This $1.2 trillion legislation, which is focused on so-called "hard" infrastructure like roads, bridges and the like -- has already passed the Senate, with 19 Republicans joining all 50 Democrats to support it. Speaker Nancy Pelosi has previously promised Democratic moderates that she will bring the measure up in the House on September 27 (next Monday) and they are aggressively working to hold her to that promise. Meanwhile, liberals in the House have balked at voting for the hard infrastructure bill unless and until they have a vote on a much broader package of government spending -- upwards of $3.5 trillion -- that the party plans to attempt to pass on a purely partisan basis. Which brings me to...

2. The budget bill: Liberals in the House -- like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Pramila Jayapal of Washington -- don't want to vote for the infrastructure bill unless and until they can ensure passage of the much-larger budget bill, which effectively crams all of Biden's first-term priorities on everything from climate to job to immigration and back into a single measure. The problem? Democrats in the Senate don't have the 50 votes they need to pass anything close to a $3.5 trillion package. Sens. Kyrsten Sinema (of Arizona) and Joe Manchin of West Virginia have made clear they will not vote for a measure with that high a price tag, with Manchin suggesting less than half that total might be workable. The other problem? Liberals including Bernie Sanders of Vermont want the package to be even bigger, seeing this as their best chance in a very long time to put a truly progressive vision in place.

Viewed broadly, what is playing out in Congress -- and especially among Democrats -- right now is a battle for what role Democrats believe the government should play in society going forward.

There's no question that if Biden gets both his infrastructure bill and anything close to the $3.5 trillion budget bill, it will amount to a massive reinvestment in government and the role it should play in American lives. After decades in which the Democratic Party -- led by Bill Clinton's famous proclamation that the "era of big government is over" -- inched ever closer to the smaller-government-is-better-government mantra of the GOP, Biden's proposals mark a clear break with that view.

Touting the infrastructure plan this spring, Biden cast it in historic terms as a "once-in-a-generation investment in America, unlike anything we've seen or done since we built the Interstate Highway System and the Space Race decades ago."

Which is a bold vision for government re-involvement in nearly every aspect of American life. But it is also a massive gamble by Biden -- staking essentially the entirety of his agenda on two pieces of massive legislation that, at least currently, face very uncertain futures in the House and Senate.

What's more remarkable is that there doesn't appear to be a "plan B" for Biden and Democrats. The size of these two bills -- in terms of cost and scope -- as well as the time and attention they have drawn from the administration and Democrats in Congress means that there isn't going to be a second bite at this apple if the first one doesn't work. This is it. A one-shot deal.

Looming over all of these machinations are the 2022 midterm elections, which, if history and a handful of recent polling data is any guide, look likely to cost down-ballot Democrats dearly. The unstated but ever-present concern for congressional Democrats as well as the Biden White House is that if the party fails to pass these major agenda items in the coming week(s), they will lose the chance to do so before the 2022 midterms. And if as expected, Republicans take back control of at least one chamber of Congress (if not both), the chances of any major legislation like this passing in 2023 or 2024 is essentially nil.

All of which means that unless Democrats can all get on the same page over the next week, Biden's expansive agenda will be doomed. And Democrats' chances of transformational change in how government impacts every day Americans lives will disappear -- maybe forever.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    5 years ago

Hope of all hopes so.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    5 years ago

They could end up with nothing.. jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

How many working days for the House between now and Monday? The budget bill won't be done by then. What will Pelosi do?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    5 years ago

More interesting is what will the radicals do if both bills cannot be passed? AOC and a few others say the 1.2T they won't vote for unless assured the socialistic 3.5T does. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    5 years ago

It's a showdown between the moderates and the far left. I have a feeling Biden is the loser.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    5 years ago

Sometimes a gop senator in a blue state just dies...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.2    5 years ago

You'll need more than that.

Christmas already came when Georgia Republicans decided not to vote for Senators.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    5 years ago

A Democrat Gov will replace McConnell (or Rand Paul) if he dies and he is not looking healthy...

Andy Beshear - Democrat

 
 
 
Baron Creek
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2.2.3  Baron Creek  replied to  JBB @2.2.2    5 years ago

Beshear would have to pick a republican in this instance. If the senator in question were a democrat, then he would have to pick a democrat.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    5 years ago
How many working days for the House between now and Monday

They could have 20 years and still not enough to put together a CORRECT budget.  

I read something about that if the infrastructure bill (correct title should be PORK BILL) doesn't pass they can't or won't vote on the budget.  Not that either are going to be good for the country anyway.

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    5 years ago

If the gop blocks progress voters blame them in '22...

And in '24. Obstructionism is a losing game for them!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3    5 years ago

$4.7Trillion isn't progress. It's suicide..........well except to those hoping for another handout.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    5 years ago

Nonsense! Bullshit! Crappla! Hysteric Hyperbole!

The government can just issue more low rate bonds just like Trump and the gop did last year.

There are two ways to stimulate economies. You can cut taxes or increase spending. Trump did both. If it was so bad we'd already be done...

Funny the gop only believes in economics when the gop has power to spend. Otherwise, no go...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    5 years ago

NOT to the tune of $4.7T. Sorry. Non-sequitur. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    5 years ago

We already have an inflation rate of 5.5%. How far do you want to go?  Does everyone's savings need to be made worthless?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    5 years ago

That was temporary due to Covid shortages.

Government bonds do not increase inflation.

But, stimulus payments do. That is on whom?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.5  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    5 years ago

Are you a US Senator now? Manchin will turn!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.6  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.5    5 years ago

WTH does that mean? I don't think it will get that far TTTT. As it now stands at least.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    5 years ago

Geeze, Jim! Is this all you can ever seed is "Biden bad"?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    5 years ago

Just following the trend of several of the membership here that SHOULD have ended last January with someone else at the helm. Can you or anyone post anything "Biden good"? Sure haven't seen much of that these last 8 months. Have you?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    5 years ago

Just giving you a dose of your own medicine

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    5 years ago

Again, it is relevant as he is the current PotUS NOT former. Surely you can see the difference.

Got any "Biden good" seeds?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.2    5 years ago

don't care

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.3    5 years ago

they are pathetic

 
 

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