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Biden vaccine mandate isn't in effect, isn't enforceable, Republican AGs argue

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  4 years ago  •  26 comments

By:   Bethany Blankley

Biden vaccine mandate isn't in effect, isn't enforceable, Republican AGs argue
his office is "preparing to immediately challenge and enjoin this federal overreach on a variety of grounds when the Biden administration issues its announced rule." Oklahoma Attorney General John O'Connor also announced that no federal rule mandating employers to require their workers to get the shots exists. He's instructed employers — and Oklahomans — to ignore Biden's order. "I urge Oklahoma employers to disregard the Biden Administration's wishes to the contrary," O'Connor said in a...

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Thank God for these state AG’s! They are trying to protect us from let’s go Brandon and his evil regimes illegal mandates. There is no federal covid vaccine mandate right now. Dear leader uncle Joe has not yet gotten his press clippings put into the federal code yet. When they do, it will be ruled an unconstitutional overreach of federal power.  


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Biden vaccine mandate isn't in effect, isn't enforceable, Republican AGs argue


States vow immediate legal challenge to block implementation, once regulatory rule is officially announced.


President Joe Biden's executive order requiring private employees to get the COVID-19 shots hasn't gone into effect and therefore isn't enforceable, argue several Republican attorneys general — and  if and when the regulation does go into effect, they vow, they will immediately sue to stop it.

"No such rule or regulation is currently in effect," Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen wrote in an open letter to all Montanans, and "there has been a great deal of confusion" since Biden announced his mandate Sept. 9.

The letter was released the same day as an announcement made by Biden, who said, "The Labor Department is going to soon be issuing an emergency rule for companies with 100 or more employees to implement vaccination requirements."

The Department of Labor's Occupational Health and Safety Administration only last week submitted the initial text of the mandate's regulatory language to the Office of Management and Budget for review. This is the first of several steps in the regulatory process.

OSHA will implement, oversee and enforce the Biden mandate, which it has yet to do. It plans to do so under an obscure authority known as "emergency temporary standards" that has been used only a handful of times.

"Under certain limited conditions, OSHA is authorized to set emergency temporary standards that take effect immediately and are in effect until superseded by a permanent standard," the agency explains at its website . "OSHA must determine that workers are in grave danger due to exposure to toxic substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or to new hazards and that an emergency standard is needed to protect them. 

"Then, OSHA publishes the emergency temporary standard in the Federal Register, where it also serves as a proposed permanent standard. It is then subject to the usual procedure for adopting a permanent standard except that a final ruling should be made within six months. The validity of an emergency temporary standard may be challenged in an appropriate U.S. Court of Appeals."

The time frame for when and if the OSHA rule would go into effect has yet to be determined, meaning currently no federal vaccine mandate exists related to OSHA and private companies. 

The order would impact at least 80 million Americans who work at a company that has more than 100 employees. The order requires them to provide proof of receiving two doses of the COVID shots to remain employed, or be tested for COVID-19 once a week.

"The bottom line: We're going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers," Biden said at a press briefing, tacitly conceding that the vaccine doesn't provide full protection. 

The mandate was a reversal of policy advocated by the White House just five months earlier. On April 6, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki told reporters: "The government is not now, nor will we be supporting a system that requires Americans to carry a credential. There will be no federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential." 

However, after Biden's Sept. 9, mandate, numerous companies issued vaccine mandates requiring employees to provide proof of vaccination status in order to remain employed. Some companies issued fines for employees who chose to not get the shots. Some rejected religious exemption requests, others rejected exemption requests from those who could prove they have natural immunity after they got the coronavirus. 

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton argues the mandate is unconstitutional, and in response to pushback throughout the state, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott issued his own mandate prohibiting all entities in Texas from issuing vaccine mandates as a condition of employment.

Knudsen says his office is "preparing to immediately challenge and enjoin this federal overreach on a variety of grounds when the Biden administration issues its announced rule." 

Oklahoma Attorney General John O'Connor also announced that no federal rule mandating employers to require their workers to get the shots exists. He's instructed employers — and Oklahomans — to ignore Biden's order. 

"I urge Oklahoma employers to disregard the Biden Administration's wishes to the contrary," O'Connor said in a statement. "In the event federal emergency rules are issued that place such an unlawful demand upon employers, our office will be joined by other state Attorneys General across the country to quickly sue and seek an injunction against any implementation or enforcement."

Oklahomans, he argues, have the right to make their own health decisions, including whether or not they get the COVID shots.

"Employers that are mandating vaccines are unfortunately doing so upon their own initiative," he said. "Religious, medical, and personal exemptions should be uniformly approved by those employers at the very least."

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich already sued the Biden administration over the vaccine mandate, arguing it violates the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton argues the mandate is unconstitutional, and in response to pushback throughout the state, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott issued his own mandate prohibiting all entities in Texas from issuing vaccine mandates as a condition of employment.

Knudsen says his office is "preparing to immediately challenge and enjoin this federal overreach on a variety of grounds when the Biden administration issues its announced rule." 

Oklahoma Attorney General John O'Connor also announced that no federal rule mandating employers to require their workers to get the shots exists. He's instructed employers — and Oklahomans — to ignore Biden's order. 

"I urge Oklahoma employers to disregard the Biden Administration's wishes to the contrary," O'Connor said in a statement. "In the event federal emergency rules are issued that place such an unlawful demand upon employers, our office will be joined by other state Attorneys General across the country to quickly sue and seek an injunction against any implementation or enforcement."

Oklahomans, he argues, have the right to make their own health decisions, including whether or not they get the COVID shots.

"Employers that are mandating vaccines are unfortunately doing so upon their own initiative," he said. "Religious, medical, and personal exemptions should be uniformly approved by those employers at the very least."

 
 
 
Hallux
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2  Hallux    4 years ago

Your Honor, I submit that stupidity and societal selfishness are human rights given to everyone by the Big Guy in the Sky.

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.1  Veronica  replied to  Hallux @2    4 years ago
Big Guy in the Sky.

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XXJefferson51
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2.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Veronica @2.1    4 years ago
 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.2  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    4 years ago

Who has not had enough of the Gym Gorgon?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2.1.2    4 years ago

What he has to say there is of great importance and he’s exactly right. 

 
 
 
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2.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    4 years ago
What he has to say there is of great importance

What Jim Jordan has to say is about as important and meaningful as watching a cat spend 6 hours trying to remove a dingleberry with its tongue.

and he’s exactly right

He may be a 'ranking member', aka stinky tool, but he panders to dipshits and morons and spoon feeds them nothing but finely pureed bullshit. The only thing 'right' about him is his political bent which is obviously 'far'. Perhaps it's Peyronie's disease...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.4    4 years ago

Different Fascist Faces, Same Fascist Policies

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Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t Black. President Joe Biden
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2    4 years ago

He gave dear leader uncle Joe, let’s go Brandon a great super abundance of both of those traits you mentioned.  The rest of it went to his supporters and his voters. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.2.1  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    4 years ago

And to you He gave a lack of originality that you should have turned down.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2.2.1    4 years ago

Being criticized by the left is something that I bear with great pride.   

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2.3  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    4 years ago
The rest of it went to his supporters and his voters.

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XXJefferson51
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2.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.3    4 years ago

I saw lowlights of Biden’s CNN town hall and that’s where real rage and hate came from.  He came off as very bitter and anti America.   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.3    4 years ago

No.  The real rage and hate is in this one man: 

Biden Mocks Americans' 'Freedom' During Response on Vaccine Mandates at CNN Town Hall

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President Biden, who in December said he “ wouldn’t demand ” vaccines be mandatory, not only mocked unvaccinated Americans on Thursday and their freedom to make their own medical decisions, but also endorsed the firing of first responders and police who don’t comply.

During a town hall event with CNN, moderator Anderson Cooper asked about his thoughts on first responders and police in a number of major cities who are refusing to take the vaccine, which has been mandated at the city level.

“Should police officers, emergency responders be mandated to get vaccines and if not, should they stay at home or be let go?” he wondered.

“Yes and yes,” Biden replied to applause. “By the way, I waited until July to talk about mandating because I tried everything else possible. The mandates are working. All the stuff about people leaving … all the talk about all these folks who are going to leave if they’re mandated, not true, you got about a 90 some percent vaccination rate.”

He then mocked one of the main concerns about the mandates—“freedom,” and said those people are trying to make it a “political issue.”

“‘I have the freedom to kill you with my Covid,’ I mean come on, freedom,” he said.

He also blasted "the gross misinformation that’s out there" and took a jab at Fox News. 

"Do you realize they mandate vaccinations? I find it mildly fascinating," he said.

Earlier this month Fox News's Tucker Carlson exposed Biden for lying about a mandate at Fox….

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Gsquared
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2.2.6  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.5    4 years ago
No.

Yes.  Everyone knows it and you know it, too.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2.2.1    4 years ago
And to you He gave a lack of originality that you should have turned down.

If it were me saying that about him, I’d have been flagged and it would not have been disallowed.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.3    4 years ago

[deleted] I was responding to rage, not engaging in it.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.6    4 years ago

Stay on the freaking topic of the seed.  I’m not the issue here.  Talk about Biden’s mandate, when it might be put into legal force, and the GOP attorneys general who will take it to court when that happens, or visit another seed.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.6    4 years ago

Biden mocks our freedom and wants to fire everyone over his illegitimate vaccine mandate.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.8    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2    4 years ago

You can’t deny that these AG’s are exactly right in what they are saying.  If you think them to to be wrong about any issue related to this at all, point out what you think it is and why. A cheap insult is simply conceding the point that they are right on and you had nothing constructive to say about it. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.4.1  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.4    4 years ago
A cheap insult is simply conceding the point that they are right on and you had nothing constructive to say about it

... according to the number one 

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XXJefferson51
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2.4.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.4.1    4 years ago

Can we discuss the actual issue presented in the seeded article now?  

 
 

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