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Michael Cohen’s testimony proves he’s the King of Liars, and only out to make a buck

  
Via:  Jeremy in NC  •  7 months ago  •  19 comments

By:   nypost (New York Post)

Michael Cohen’s testimony proves he’s the King of Liars, and only out to make a buck
The only thing the prosecutors in Donald Trump's hush money trial proved was that, in the pantheon of dishonesty, there are liars, pathological liars . . . and Michael Cohen.

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On Tuesday, the prosecution surprised many by suddenly announcing that it would rest its case against former President Donald Trump with the completion of testimony by Michael Cohen.

It was surprising because the prosecution never clearly stated the crime that it was proving, the elements of that crime, or even why denoting payments related to Stormy Daniels were not properly recorded as legal expenses.

Indeed, the only thing the prosecutors proved was that, in the pantheon of dishonesty, there are liars, pathological liars … and Michael Cohen.

Cohen spent the last two days insisting that he used to be a liar but lied only to help Trump. If that is the thrust of his testimony, it is just the latest lie told by Cohen under oath.

Cohen has lied to Congress, courts, special counsels, the IRS, banks, and virtually every creature that walks or crawls on the face of the Earth.

Notably, his past conviction for business and tax fraud was not taken in the interests of Trump but himself.

When he admitted on the stand that he lied during his prior plea agreement, that was not to assist Trump, whom he had already denounced. It was to advance his own interests.

There is every indication that Cohen is still lying.

Take, for example, his testimony on his unethical decision to secretly record a Sept. 6, 2016, telephone call with Trump.

It was a breathtaking betrayal that most lawyers would not contemplate, let alone carry out.

When asked by the prosecutors about that act, Cohen bizarrely claimed that he did so to guarantee that David Pecker, the former publisher of the National Enquirer, would "remain loyal to Mr. Trump."

No one seriously believes that this is true. It does not even make sense. Pecker was speaking to Trump about the payments and even met with him at the White House.

Playing for him a call with Trump would produce nothing but confusion rather than pressure for Pecker.

Moreover, why would Cohen tape the call without letting Trump know? The obvious motive was to squirrel away material to use against Trump if he ever needed a little leverage.

Again, it was for Cohen.

Cohen's testimony showed that he has consistently acted solely in his interest.

After portraying his sudden cooperation with prosecutors as a type of "road to Damascus," jurors learned that all roads lead back to Cohen and his bank accounts.

After telling the jury that he has dedicated his life to righting the wrongs of Trump and holding him accountable, he admitted that he repeatedly acted to undermine the prosecution in order to make a buck.

Told by prosecutors to stop doing public interviews, Cohen did not care. He did roughly two dozen television appearances and recorded hundreds of podcast episodes.


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    7 months ago

The fact that Cohen was the prosecutions "star witness" is as laughable as this whole investigation and trial.  

Do they actually expect anybody to take him seriously?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2  afrayedknot    7 months ago

“Do they actually expect anybody to take him seriously?”

At this point, it is down to only a dutifully selected twelve whose opinions matter.

A fact that no amount of money, no amount of intimidation, no amount of media pontification, or no amount of deflection will change. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1  Snuffy  replied to  afrayedknot @2    7 months ago
At this point, it is down to only a dutifully selected twelve whose opinions matter.

And after the first day of cross examination, Cohen has managed to maintain his calm and careful demeanor which will help him in the eyes of the jury. Will he be able to maintain that on Thursday? And given his history, it does stand to question if all 12 will believe what he's said.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Snuffy @2.1    7 months ago

“Will he be able…”

As stated previously, the jury will be the only arbiter. The societal question…will either ‘side’ have the understanding to accept the verdict? Hoping so, guessing not. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.2  Snuffy  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.1    7 months ago
As stated previously, the jury will be the only arbiter.

Agreed, that's why I said what I did in the first two sentences.

The societal question…will either ‘side’ have the understanding to accept the verdict?

Regardless of the verdict there will be those who refuse to accept. I only hope that we don't have any major riots with property damage and/or personal injury out of it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    7 months ago
in the pantheon of dishonesty, there are liars, pathological liars . . . and Michael Cohen Donald Trump.
 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @3    7 months ago

in the pantheon of dishonesty, there are liars, pathological liars . . . and Michael Cohen Donald Trump Joe Biden.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    7 months ago

in the pantheon of dishonesty, there are liars, pathological liars . . . and Michael Cohen. Donald Trump. Joe Biden, Democrats.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    7 months ago

in your dreams

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    7 months ago

“Democrats.”

I’m an ex-republican, an ex-libertarian and now a registered Democrat.

In your broad brush strokes, do you consider me a liar or pathological liar?

Do you not see how little that makes anyone who makes such ridiculous statements sound?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    7 months ago

Simple test, what has Biden stated inflation was at when he took office?

You were so quick to bash Trump for any and all instances of lying, misquoting and exaggerating during and after his term yet you ignore Biden? When did you become an employee of MSNBC?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  afrayedknot @3.1.3    7 months ago
In your broad brush strokes, do you consider me a liar or pathological liar?

Not making this a personal thing.  Keep it that way.

Do you not see how little that makes anyone who makes such ridiculous statements? 

Then prove me wrong.  Are you asserting there have never been a Democrat that has lied?  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.4    7 months ago

People who EQUATE the lying of Joe Biden and that of Donald Trump are either lying or have lost their senses. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.7  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    7 months ago

And people who just ignore the lying of Biden and always shift to Trump have proven their over-partisanship outlook and inability to be fair.

By the way, never equated the lying of the two. That's all on you.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.8  afrayedknot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.5    7 months ago

“Are you asserting there have never been a Democrat that has lied?”

Of course not.

But back to the original premise, in what way does casting dispersions on an entire segment of the population lead to any sort of productive outcome? It is in fact the most counterproductive of means at one’s disposal if that is the intent. We can all be better in these challenging times, but as always, that is a personal choice…unless of course, you don’t want to make it personal. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.9  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    7 months ago

People who EQUATE the lying of Joe Biden and that of Donald Trump are either lying or have lost their senses. 

Yeah, but if you’re maga you just keep saying it so that maybe it will become true one day.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.10  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  afrayedknot @3.1.8    7 months ago
Of course not.

So the only problem is in your head.  And that, sir, is not my problem.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    7 months ago

ay, the prosecution surprised many by suddenly announcing that it would rest its case against former President Donald Trump with the completion of testimony by Michael Cohen.

Cohen's testimony doesn't matter. This trial has nothing to do with legal norms or justice. For starters, a state that can't be bothered to prosecute  many of the violent criminals it arrests has invested copious amounts of its resources in pursuing a misdemeanor based on an alleged bookkeeping error  from 7 years ago. This circus is  just about getting Donald Trump because he's a "bad guy" in the view of Democrats. No different that crooked cops who justify planting evidence or beating confessions out of people who they view as criminals, because "if they didn't commit the crime they got arrested for, they committed some other crime" and thus justify punishing them for a crime he  didn't commit.  People here even admit that that's all they care about.

The Prosecution believes jurors won't care that Cohen is a serial liar and absolutely unreliable because they'll want to get Trump. It really doesn't matter what Cohen says.  The Judge will ensure it gets to the jury whether the prosecution makes a legal case or not.  The Prosecutors  don't care that signing an NDA when a hooker extorts you isn't illegal.   Prosecutors don't even care they haven't bothered to charge Trump with the  actual  second crime that makes this lawsuit possible. They assume jurors will just vote guilty to get Trump.

The only thing that matters in this trial is the exercise of power.  Facts, lying, truth is all irrelevant. It's just about getting Trump by any means necessary and  knowing NY is probably one of the the best venues in America to find a jury that will ignore it's ethical obligations in order to do so. . 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    7 months ago

My bigger issue with the prosecution is that they still have not laid out the second charge that was used to elevate misdemeanor crimes to felonies. They have alluded to a couple of issues, tried to bring up election charges but never definitely stated anything. Makes me wonder if when the defense is done if the judge doesn't just toss everything out stating the prosecution has not made it's case. Probably not, but damn.

 
 

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