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Obama, Clinton, Democrats Denounce Attacks on ‘Easter Worshippers,’ Not ‘Christians’

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  7 years ago  •  108 comments


Obama, Clinton, Democrats Denounce Attacks on ‘Easter Worshippers,’ Not ‘Christians’
Yet Obama, Clinton, and other Democrats — including 2020 presidential contender Julián Castro — could not bring themselves to identify the victims of the attacks as “Christians,” calling them “Easter worshippers” instead in eerily similar responses:

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Former President Barack Obama, former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, and several other leading Democrats denounced terror attacks on what they called “Easter worshippers” — not Christians — Sunday in Sri Lanka.


Suicide bombers murdered  nearly 300 people and wounded 500 more in attacks on three churches, three hotels, and a housing complex. Many were killed as they attended Mass for Easter Sunday. The government reportedly suspects that the bombers, all Sri Lankans, were members of “a domestic Islamist terror group named National Thowfeek Jamaath.”


Yet Obama, Clinton, and other Democrats — including 2020 presidential contender Julián Castro — could not bring themselves to identify the victims of the attacks as “Christians,” calling them “Easter worshippers” instead in eerily similar responses :

During Obama’s eight years as president, Obama — and Clinton, who served as his first Secretary of State — drew criticism for his reluctance to identify radical Islam as the source of many terror attacks.

In an address to the National Prayer Breakfast in 2015, Obama attempted to draw a moral equivalence between the terror and torture used by the so-called “Islamic State” (or ISIS), and medieval Christianity. He admonished Americans not to “get on our high horse” about radical Islam, since “people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ” centuries ago.

Democrats also criticized President Donald Trump and his administration for declining to use the word “Muslims” to describe the victims of the Christchurch terror attack in New Zealand last month, although Trump did identify the targets as “mosques.” Similarly, he identified the targets in Sri Lanka as “churches and hotels.”

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. He is also the co-author of  How Trump Won: The Inside Story of a Revolution , which is available from Regnery.


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Tacos!
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2  Tacos!    7 years ago

I dunno. Feels thin. And political.

I think you can just as easily see "Easter worshippers" as accentuating the fact that people were attacked while they were engaged in worshipping on the holiest day of the Christian calendar. I think people understand that they're Christians. Killing Easter worshippers actually seems worse to me than just killing someone for being a Christian.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  Vic Eldred    7 years ago

Notice how both Obama and Clinton use the exact same awkward language.  The left can never allow Christians to be perceived as victims. To them, Christians are the one's that need to be watched. These are people who fear imaginary right wing extremism more that they fear radical Islamic terrorism.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    7 years ago
Notice how both Obama and Clinton use the exact same awkward language.

Anyone who didn't notice would be lying. Even Muslims noticed.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
4  livefreeordie    7 years ago

Many of us in the Evangelical community don't even use the word Easter which is associated with the Cult of the Church of Rome.  We call it Resurrection Day and greet each other with Happy or Blessed Resurrection Day, and to say "He is risen", and the response to that is "He is risen indeed"

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @4    7 years ago
to say "He is risen", and the response to that is "He is risen indeed"

Ah, the code words. Good to know. Though, that sounds like something Lot's older daughter might have said to her younger daughter after coming out of their Fathers tent...

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
4.1.1  livefreeordie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    7 years ago

couldn't avoid a chance to introduce some vulgarity to what is holy to Christians?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
4.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.1    7 years ago

"holy to christians."  ? ?  That would be...………..what?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
4.1.3  livefreeordie  replied to  bbl-1 @4.1.2    7 years ago

the celebration of the Resurrection of Jesus

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
4.1.4  bbl-1  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.3    7 years ago

Except you don't.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bbl-1 @4.1.2    7 years ago
That would be...………..what?

Incest?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
4.1.7  livefreeordie  replied to  bbl-1 @4.1.4    7 years ago

Really?  and you know that how?  Why engage in lying about someone you don't know

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
4.2  Kavika   replied to  livefreeordie @4    7 years ago

The height of irony is Evangelicals calling Catholics a cult. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
4.2.1  livefreeordie  replied to  Kavika @4.2    7 years ago

Hardly.  Evangelicals stress obedience to the Word of God as Jesus commanded while the Church of Rome is founded upon leadership and doctrines that are not Biblical including the papacy and worship of Mary

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
4.3  katrix  replied to  livefreeordie @4    7 years ago
Many of us in the Evangelical community don't even use the word Easter which is associated with the Cult of the Church of Rome

How hilarious that you think you happen to belong to the one correct cult, and all the other cults are wrong.

BTW, Easter is taken from Oestre,  your holiday is plagiarized from a pagan holiday, and your myths are plagiarized from earlier religions who had stories of resurrections and births without sex - since you're in the mood to insult people who don't share your beliefs.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
4.3.1  livefreeordie  replied to  katrix @4.3    7 years ago

I don't belong to any cult.  Of course those who mock God like yourself consider all worship of God to be cultish, but that's your problem that you will face when you are face to face with God.

I agree that Easter is a pagan celebration adopted by the Cult of the Church of Rome. that is why Evangelicals like myself don't celebrate or mention the name Easter.  We celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus from the Grave.  No Easter Eggs, 

Christianity is far removed from myths and is based upon facts attested to by witnesses. Witnesses who were complete cowards in hiding upon his trial and death on the cross, but brave enough to testify of Him to the point of all but one being executed for that witness. 

Secondly, and of importance, the Jews do not deny the fact of the life, ministry, and death of Jesus.  Some Rabbinical Scholars even acknowledge the fact of the Resurrection

As to the myth accusation, those who are basically ignorant of the facts regurgitate these kinds of statements even though they have been thoroughly refuted.

Was Jesus a myth copied from Paganism
Atheists are so desperate to deny Jesus they will grab onto any non authoritative source like the Divinci Code and treat it is fact rather than actually engage in substantive research
As Bart Ehrman, atheist professor of Religious Studies at UNC, has said:
“The alleged parallels between Jesus and the “pagan” savior-gods in most instances reside in the modern imagination: We do not have accounts of others who were born to virgin mothers and who died as an atonement for sin and then were raised from the dead (despite what the sensationalists claim ad nauseum in their propagandized versions).”
While this idea may stop is in our tracks at first glance, when we dig deeper we find that these “parallels” are made up to such an extent as to be simply embarrassing.  Jesus is not a knock-off of pagan god stories, and this is a basic fact of history.  Let’s take a quick look at Mithra, Dionysus, and Horus, all of whom are claimed to have born of a virgin, killed, buried, and resurrected from the dead.
Mithra had absolutely no virgin birth.  In fact, Mithra was not born in a literal sense, he emerged out of a rock. Mirtha was only born metaphorically, not literally.  Mithra even emerged out of this rock as an adult, not as a baby. Mithra has no real mother, no virgin birth, no manger.
Dionysus also was not born from a virgin mother. There are several different mothers for this god depending on which source you read, but the most common story is that Dionysus was born from Zeus having sex with Semele:
“And Semele, daughter of Kadmos was joined with him [Zeus] in love and bare him a splendid son, joyous Dionysos,–a mortal woman an immortal son. And now they both are gods.” – Hesiod, Theogony. 940 ff (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C8th or 7th B.C.)
Nothing virginal about this story, or any of the others pertaining to the birth of Dionysus.
As for Horus, he also had no virgin birth.  Isis had sex with Osiris after reassembling his body parts which were torn apart and scattered over Egypt.  As egyptologist and professor at the university of Arizona Dr. Richard Wilkinson has written,
“Through her magic Isis revivified the sexual member of Osiris and became pregnant by him, eventually giving birth to their child, Horus.”
Historian and professor Françoise Dunand writes,
“AFTER HAVING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, IN THE FORM OF A BIRD, WITH THE DEAD GOD SHE RESTORED TO LIFE, SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A POSTHUMOUS SON, HORUS.”  
 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
4.3.2  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @4.3.1    7 years ago
I don't belong to any cult.  Of course those who mock God like yourself consider all worship of God to be cultish, but that's your problem that you will face when you are face to face with God.

Does the existence of logic mock your god?

 Your threats of eternal torment at the hands of your judgemental god are proof that you do not have a rational response, so you fall back on supernatural threats for those who do not agree with you. 

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
4.3.3  katrix  replied to  livefreeordie @4.3.1    7 years ago
I don't belong to any cult.  Of course those who mock God like yourself consider all worship of God to be cultish, but that's your problem that you will face when you are face to face with God.

Ooh, threats from your evil boogeyman!  I'm so scared!  Why you would worship anything you claim is so evil and jealous is beyond me, but suit yourself.

You get so insulted when your religion is called a cult, yet you sit there on your high horse and claim that another Christian sect is a cult.  And you don't even grasp the irony of that.  I'd say that yours is a cult - the price for leaving it is eternal torture, and that's a good way to define a cult.

If you don't want your faith insulted, then stop insulting everyone else's.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
4.3.4  epistte  replied to  katrix @4.3.3    7 years ago
You get so insulted when your religion is called a cult, yet you sit there on your high horse and claim that another Christian sect is a cult.  And you don't even grasp the irony of that.  I'd say that yours is a cult - the price for leaving it is eternal torture, and that's a good way to define a cult.

It would seem that to some people the concept of the No True Scotsman fallacy doesn't apply to their religious beliefs.  That is exactly why that fallacy exists. 

I cannot find examples of his gods love because it would seem that for Christians their god letting them alone and not hurting them is an example of love. He created all of these things that caused people pain and anguish (sin, sickness, and hell among many others), but they continue to repeat the claim that their god is a loving God. 

Most people do not understand the concept of gaslighting or how it applies to religion. If someone or something says that they love/care for you but then they do or say something that causes you pain/hurt/suffering then they are gaslighting you.  Once people have their eyes opened to this tactic they tend to see it happening and change the way that they respond.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
4.3.6  katrix  replied to  epistte @4.3.4    7 years ago

My mom believes in a loving God, and her idea of hell is simply separation from God.  No torture or anything.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Participates
4.3.7  Veronica  replied to  katrix @4.3.3    7 years ago
You get so insulted when your religion is called a cult, yet you sit there on your high horse and claim that another Christian sect is a cult.  And you don't even grasp the irony of that.  I'd say that yours is a cult - the price for leaving it is eternal torture, and that's a good way to define a cult.

I am so glad I am not the only person to find that ironic.  I also find it annoying. Out of all the people that is in the Bible my favorite character was Jesus' mother Mary.  Why? Because in the story she put her life on the line to carry this child.  And what did she get out of it?  

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
4.3.9  katrix  replied to  Tessylo @4.3.8    7 years ago

I'll do it for him.  You strumpet!  There was a priest where I grew up who refused to let my friends marry at the altar because the girl was pregnant (and therefore a strumpet, while nothing bad was said about her boyfriend of course).  Her boyfriend looked at the priest and said, "Who do you think got her pregnant?"  They walked out and never went to church again.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.3.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  katrix @4.3.6    7 years ago

I was raised to believe you make your own Hell. Still believe that.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Participates
4.4  Veronica  replied to  livefreeordie @4    7 years ago

But you believe it is ok to persecte Catholics by ridiculing their tenets, but your brand of Christianity shouldn't be ridiculed?  Oh god - there is so much wrong with that.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Participates
4.5  Veronica  replied to  livefreeordie @4    7 years ago

And BTW - Mary is the best character in the Bible.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
5  bbl-1    7 years ago

Never thought that it would ever be necessary----even in right wing world----to have to excavate the dirt beneath the bottom rung to make more room.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
5.1  bbl-1  replied to  bbl-1 @5    7 years ago

No value Mr. Vic Eldred? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @5.1    7 years ago

That's right. 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
5.1.2  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    7 years ago
That's right. 

I fail to see how his observation is of no value.  Maybe you could explain your opinion to both BBL1 and me,

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @5.1.2    7 years ago
Maybe you could explain your opinion to both BBL1 and me,

Insulting groups really adds nothing to the discussion. We are fairly lenient here. Stick with making your argument.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
5.1.4  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.3    7 years ago
Insulting groups really adds nothing to the discussion. We are fairly lenient here. Stick with making your argument.

A counter argument can be insulting to some people if it is a point that they do not like, so should those also be limited when the party in question feels the alternative idea is an insult to their political/social opinions or their religious beliefs?

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @5.1.4    7 years ago

It's not about idea's, it's about insults.  Show me the idea or better still, an argument related to the article in that statement?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
5.1.6  bbl-1  replied to  epistte @5.1.4    7 years ago

To some, the greatest insults are truths.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
5.1.7  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    7 years ago
It's not about idea's, it's about insults.  Show me the idea or better still, an argument related to the article in that statement?

How did Barack Obama insult anyone?  You are choosing to be insulted because you don't think that he was sincere.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @5.1.6    7 years ago

Not here.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
5.1.10  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.9    7 years ago
Neither he nor Hillary were.  

How do you know that they were not sincere?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Participates
5.1.12  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.11    7 years ago
It’s sad when some feel that the only way they can express their feelings or beliefs is to insult someone else’s feelings or beliefs.

If I had a dollar for every time you insulted someone else's feelings or beliefs, I could afford to buy the State of Jefferson and have your silly behind thrown out of it.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
6  Kavika     7 years ago

Seems like quite the stretch to think that saying  ''Easter Worshipers'' is some kind of insult...

I would think that there were people there that were not Christian so it seems inclusive to me.

 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
6.1  evilone  replied to  Kavika @6    7 years ago
Seems like quite the stretch to think that saying  ''Easter Worshipers'' is some kind of insult...

I see nothing but thin skinned alt+right snowflakes?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
6.1.2  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.1    7 years ago
Christians don’t worship Easter. We worship a risen savior and observe the day Jesus came out of the tomb a risen savior every year.  The day is a celebration of our salvation because of Him.

Don't be so pedantic. They were worshipping in a church on Easter. How can you possibly worship a date on a calendar? 

You would probably feel better if you turn back the religious persecution dial to 3 or 4. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.1    7 years ago
Christians don’t worship Easter.

So, none of the people I saw going to church on Sunday were Christians?

You're not calling them liars, are you, KAG?  Because I'd bet most of them call themselves Christians.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.5  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.4    7 years ago

Unless it's "culture warrior" Laura Loomer.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
6.1.8  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.4    7 years ago
I don’t persecute anyone nor do I advocate that anyone be persecuted for their beliefs.  Persecution and the belittling/shaming of another’s faith and belief is never ever justified or socially acceptable behavior.  

I never said or hinted that you persecuted other religious beliefs. I was saying your own religious persecution complex is out of control and you should consider dialing back  for your health because nobody is persecuting you or your religious beliefs. Not even King Obamao of Kenya, or sHillary Clinton from her deep underground bunker at the pizza shop. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.7    7 years ago
She’s a Christian?

I never said she was.  You call her a "culture warrior" when she's an anti-Muslim bigot.  You do, indeed, advocate persecution on the basis of beliefs, so long as it's done by someone with whom you agree politically.  Your comment history is here in black and white.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.6    7 years ago
we are not Easter worshippers.

How hard do you have to try not to understand that "Easter worshippers" means "people who are worshipping on Easter Day", not "people who worship a holiday"?  Pretty much everybody here understands that the phrase means the former, and not the latter.

 
 
 
LynneA
Freshman Silent
7  LynneA    7 years ago

While some may get their panties in a bunch over what is portrayed as a slight towards Christian's, compare and contrast the Easter tweets of Obama and Trump...tells a different tale.

Easter Worshipers, implies those who were worshipping on Easter.  Nothing more, nothing less.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
8  katrix    7 years ago

Oh, bullshit.  They were making a point that these people were celebrating Easter, the holiest day of the Christian year.  Not just a normal Sunday at church, but THE most important celebration of all for Christians.

Where was the outrage when people talked about people celebrating Ramadan?

Sheesh.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
8.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  katrix @8    7 years ago

I'm waiting for the outrage about the reporting of today's synagogue shooting.  I have seen no headline specifying that the victims were Jewish.  Surely, that is an attempt to cover up antisemitism.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
8.1.3  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.2    7 years ago
We also know that the shooter is an anti Semite who hates Trump because of Israel ties and having Jews in his family.  

The shooter is also a Christian. This is from his manifesto. 

To my brothers in Christ of all races. Be strong. Although the Jew who is inspired by demons and Satan will attempt to corrupt your soul with the sin and perversion he spews—remember that you are secure in Christ. Turn away from your sin. Not because it is required for your salvation—for nobody save Christ can merit heaven based on his own works—but rather out of gratitude for the gift of salvation that your God has given you. Always remember that it is God that is keeping you alive and in faith. All sin stems from the arrogant belief that one does not need God. Satan was so prideful that he actually truly believed (that he, a created being) could overthrow the Ancient of Days—the Creator of all in existence. Satan inspired this rebellion among humanity. Christ alone is the only source of life. Know that you are saved in Christ and nothing—not death, nor torture, nor sin—can steal your soul away from God.
 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
8.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.1    7 years ago

Yet another headline and article that doesn't spell out that those celebrating Passover were Jewish.

Outrageous, if we judge your link by the standards to which we seem to be holding Obama and Clinton.

 
 

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