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White House Sends Blistering Response to Nadler: No, We Aren't Participating in Your Bogus Hearings

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  7 years ago  •  95 comments

By:   Beth Baumann

White House Sends Blistering Response to Nadler: No, We Aren't Participating in Your Bogus Hearings
"As you know, this baseless and highly partisan inquiry violates all past historical precedent, basic due process rights, and fundamental fairness," White House Counsel Pat Cipollone wrote to Nadler. In his letter, he blasted Nadler for giving the White House little time to respond to the letter and for scheduling the hearings "during the time that you know the President will be out of the country attending the NATO Leaders Meeting in London."

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Thank you President Trump and your legal team for standing up to the bullies in the House majority.  Thanks for exposing their star chamber for the illegitimate action that it is.  Schiff and Nadler deserve nothing but public ridicule and humiliation and our sheerest and most utter contempt.  


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The White House on Sunday notified House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NJ) that they would not be participating in the Committee's impeachment hearings scheduled for Wednesday. 

"As you know, this baseless and highly partisan inquiry violates all past historical precedent, basic due process rights, and fundamental fairness," White House Counsel Pat Cipollone wrote to Nadler. 

In his letter, he blasted Nadler for giving the White House little time to respond to the letter and for scheduling the hearings "during the time that you know the President will be out of the country attending the NATO Leaders Meeting in London."

Cipollone also suggested the hearing is a waste of time because it will focus on the "historical and constitutional basis of impeachment," and will feature academics, not witnesses relating to Ukraine or the current impeachment inquiry.

Nadler sent another letter with a different deadline, something Cipollone said provides absolutely no details for the White House. 

"Again, your letter provided no information whatsoever as to what the schedule will be, what the procedures will be, or what rights, if any, the Committee intends to afford the President," he wrote. "In other words, you have given no information regarding your plans, set arbitrary deadlines, and then demand a response, all to create the false appearance of providing the President some rudimentary process."

Cipollone said the White House would respond further if Nadler provided any further information.

He did, however, blast Nadler for making it seem as though he was affording Trump and his legal team any sort of due process. According to Cipollone, Nadler isn't following past precedent, like during the Clinton impeachment saga. When the Clinton impeachment hearings took place, the president's legal team had two-and-a-half weeks to prepare and allowed the president to have a say in a hearing date. None of those things have been done in this case, Cipollone said.

The White House Counsel slammed the Democrats for the moves they've made thus far, specifically House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff's (D-CA) refusal to allow Trump to participate in closed-door hearings. 

"There, Chairman Schiff attempted to concoct a false narrative through selective citation of the testimony of witnesses of his choosing, after vetting them during closed-door depositions hidden from both the President and the American public," he wrote. "The President was not allowed to present evidence, to call witnesses, to cross examine witnesses, or to even see transcripts until weeks after testimony had been taken, and he was allowed absolutely no participation in the public hearings that followed. Further, witness requests made by Republicans were denied. In addition, certain questioning of the witnesses who did testify was censored by Democrats."

Cipollone pointed out the clear difference between the Nixon and Clinton impeachment proceedings and the Democrats' current impeachment push. In the past, both parties had subpoena powers. In the Trump impeachment inquiry, only Democrats have that power and any Republican requests have been stifled. He argued that this will cause "long term institutional harm."  The announcement comes  after Nadler sent  the White House a letter telling them they have until 5 p.m. EST on December 6th to let the Committee know whether or not Trump's legal counsel will participate in the hearings. The Committee Chairman sent a similar letter to Ranking Member Doug Collins (R-GA) letting him know he has the same deadline to send a list of witnesses to Committee Democrats to review. Although Republicans can issue subpoenas and interrogatories, Nadler has the final say in whether or not they can and will be issued.




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JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    7 years ago

This surely seems guilty...

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
3  charger 383    7 years ago

I wish he had walked in, said "go pound sand...." and left 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    7 years ago

They can't argue that Trump is innocent, so they try and make it about everything else. 

If Trump were innocent he wouldnt be preventing the key witnesses from testifying. 

His cult members dont care though. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
4.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4    7 years ago

He has much more important things to do John...the business of the nation and the people.

Trump is upholding the Constitution and the law, and the Dems continue to undermine both.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3    7 years ago
He has much more important things to do John...the business of the nation and the people.

If Trump were innocent he wouldnt be preventing the key witnesses from testifying. 

You mean he something to do more important than producing any possible evidence of his innocence?  Is there a pole dancer's convention at one of his golf courses this week? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
4.3.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    7 years ago
You mean he something to do more important than producing any possible evidence of his innocence?

Who would he give it to, so far, that would pay any attention? And he doesn't have to prove innocence in the US system. The system has to prove guilt..........beyond a reasonable doubt..................unless something changed over the weekend.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.3.3    7 years ago
Who would he give it to, so far, that would pay any attention?

I don't know, the public?   The Republican members of the impeachment committee? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.3.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3    7 years ago
He has much more important things to do John...

The hearings exposed the fact that what's "important" to dishonest Donald is getting re-elected. That's why he was apparently unconcerned with helping Ukraine or getting them to crack down on corruption. All Trump wanted was a public announcement of investigations into Biden and the 2016 debunked Ukraine election meddling (an FSB invented talking point often repeated by our own President) that he could use in his own upcoming election. Either Putin is a Jedi master using a mind trick on Trump, Trump is just really stupid, or Trump is a true Kremlin Manchurian candidate, or perhaps a bit of all three. Mueller wasn't able to prove criminal conspiracy, and everyone who knows Trump says he's simply too stupid to collude, I guess we have to go with Jedi mind trick. "Russia didn't hack your election, it was Ukraine...!".... "Yes, Russia didn't hack our election, Ukraine did it...", "These aren't the IP addresses and mountains of other evidence gathered by US intelligence agencies proving it was Russia that you're looking for, Russia is your friend...", "This isn't the evidence we're looking for, Russia is out friend...". I really hope it isn't a pee tape that Putin has on Trump, I don't think anyone actually wants to see that, but I guess it's existence is far more probably than Putin having Jedi powers.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.3.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    7 years ago
Is there a pole dancer's convention at one of his golf courses this week? 

In case you don't know the President of the United States will be in Europe for NATO, a trip which was scheduled over a year ago.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
4.3.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    7 years ago

Right now he is talking trash at the NATO summit in England.  He said Macron made a nasty comment about NATO, the same NATO he called obsolete.  Considering how nasty he has been at rally's and on twitter, he has no right to call out someone for one remark.  He is the epitome of kettle/pot.  I bet most of the attendees must be thinking "Doesn't this ahole ever shut up?"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.3.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.3.7    7 years ago

I know one thing - the NATO members are finally starting to pay their fair share. 

It's called a win!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
4.3.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.3.8    7 years ago

I never disputed the fact that they should pay more.  My point of contention is him using every opportunity to talk trash.  Remember when he was doing it in France with the graves of the dead as a backdrop?  The man is as uncouth as  it gets.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.3.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.3.9    7 years ago
  My point of contention is him using every opportunity to talk trash. 

Are you saying that NATO is immune from criticism?

NATO was created when Joe Stalin and the Soviet Union had been granted a generous sphere of influence in eastern Europe at a time when Europe was still recovering from the devastation of World War II. Over the decades NATO has served the western alliance well, but much has changed over the decades:

Europe was rebuilt via the Marshall Plan.

The Soviet Union has fallen and Germany has been re-united, eastern Europe is free again.

Most of the European nations are part of a common economy which is greater than the economy of Russia.

Most of the European nations have socialist economies with little money set aside for national defense while dependent on the US military & NATO for their security.


It is time for a reevaluation of how the alliance should work. That is not "trash talk."

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
4.3.11  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.3.10    7 years ago

Not at all.  NATO's house is far from clean.  Again,  my complaint is that it is disgusting that Trump uses these meetings to make it about him and trash talk others.  I just saw a sound byte where he is bitching about Schiff and called him a liar which is laughable considering the vast amount of lies he has told.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.3.12  Ronin2  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.3.11    7 years ago

Don't like the way Trump talks, then don't vote for him. 

As for Trump bitching about Schiff calling him a liar; sometimes the truth slips out of even Trump's mouth. Schiff is a piece of shit. The amount of giant whoppers Schiff has told he has no room to call anyone else a liar. Maybe you can force him to finally release that damning evidence he said he has on Trump for the last two years.

The way Trump talks is not an impeachable offense. If Trump is so hated it should be easy for the Dems to defeat him in a fair and open election. So why are they all scared shitless?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.3.14  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @4.3.13    7 years ago

Prove me wrong about Schiff's massive whoppers. All you need to do is get Schiff to release this damning evidence he has been supposedly sitting on for over two years.

Till then Schiff is a lying piece of shit; that is abusing the system to get the results he desires.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
4.3.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.3.15    7 years ago

Hard to tell from here..........pot? Kettle?jrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4    7 years ago
His cult members dont care though.

Just like the leftist cult members don't care about due process, precedents, or anything else else when it comes to Trump. They have been calling for his impeachment since before he took office. They have broken every rule to try and achieve their objective.

Sorry, but Trump defeating Hillary is not an impeachable offense.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.4.2  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.4.1    7 years ago
the crime of the century!

Actually it was/is. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5  lib50    7 years ago

Impeachment is a constitutional process and the rules are being followed to the letter.  There is nothing illegal, unfair or unconstitutional about this process, including the rules put in place by republicans.  They complained they couldn't call witnesses (not the time in the process during investigations) and now they refuse to.  They won't let witnesses testify.  Trump has committed bribery and extortion and has abused the power of office.  He has used the power and assets of the USA for his own personal political purposes.  If there were ANYTHING to prove his innocence he would be doing it.  He can't because he is guilty.  Everything he is doing is detrimental to the USA.  From the Syria withdrawal to trying to corrupt Ukraine.  And all has benefited Putin. 

Not by accident Trump loves the poorly educated.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  lib50 @5    7 years ago

Nothing you say can be considered to be the truth or relevant. You state as facts what can only be considered as allegations...false ones at that.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
5.2.1  katrix  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    7 years ago

Speaking of truth - where's that damning IG report you and others kept swearing was going to throw all these Democrats in jail?

You state as facts what can only be considered as allegations...false ones at that. While projecting your bad habit onto others.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @5.2.1    7 years ago
where's that damning IG report you and others kept swearing was going to throw all these Democrats in jail?

Due out December 9th. Patience weed hopper.......................

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.3    7 years ago
Yeah we've been waiting for those indictments for a long long long long long long long long long long long long time, at least three years now.

No, no you haven't. Are you afraid it's going to do just the opposite as the Mueller report which was nothing you waited two plus years for? Patience..................

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.5    7 years ago

When was the IG investigation started?

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.2.7  lib50  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    7 years ago

[DELETE]   I haven't lied about anything and you are just projecting.  You believe Trump or at least push his bullshit, so don't try to pretend you can even tell the difference.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
5.2.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  katrix @5.2.1    7 years ago

So far, the only ones going to jail are R's.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
6  bbl-1    7 years ago

Trump can't answer questions or define his reasoning.  He doesn't know how.

Besides, Trump is 'the Russian puppet'.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
7  It Is ME    7 years ago

Trump doesn't have to do anything !

These hearings are nothing about "Facts", they are just about "Feelings".

As Representative (Kentucky Fried Chicken guy) just noted in this latest "WHITE Democrat Lynching", It "APPEARS" that President Trump did something wrong. 

That's been the entirety of this "Liberal" hearing. If it "Appears to be", it "Must Be" !

Even Schifty Schiff in his "Media" announcement before the Nadler Circus reconvenes said.... He's not sure ….. still !

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
7.1  It Is ME  replied to  It Is ME @7    7 years ago

Democrats and their fucking "Feelings".

Now.… Representative Tim Deutch (douche) is announcing his dads grandfather fought in WWII (The Ardennes) and shed Blood for this country, as to why he thinks Trump should be impeached ! He's doing a great job "Leading" the "Academic 3", on what they should speak on.....but asked NO question of the "Academic 3". Democrats "Avoid" Professor Turley when "Crying" to the other "3".

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
9  Paula Bartholomew    7 years ago

Fine, don't cooperate.  But when you throw away the chance to present any testimony or proof and get busted, don't come crying to us.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
9.1  It Is ME  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    7 years ago
Fine, don't cooperate.  But when you throw away the chance to present any testimony or proof and get busted, don't come crying to us.

When did this country "Change" to "Guilty until Proven innocent" ?jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 

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