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Tucker on Dems using virus as a political weapon: ‘Terrified, unhappy populations want change’

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  6 years ago  •  95 comments

By:   Frieda Powers

 Tucker on Dems using virus as a political weapon: ‘Terrified, unhappy populations want change’
Biden’s never been much of a science guy, he’s a lifelong politician. His specialty is not public health, his specialty is power and coercion, so he does what he knows,” he added. “Biden instead demands you forget about your so-called rights as an American and obey his orders, no questions allowed. Otherwise, you’re unpatriotic,” Carlson continued, pointing to the proposal and Biden’s remarks as yet another example of how Democrats “have decided to use our public health emergency as a...

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As per usual, Tucker nails it exactly right about BidEn-Harris and the democrat party.  An awesome calling out and rightful mocking of blue city and blue state leaders and their IG ego god complexes.  The bicoastal secular progressive white elites will never dictate happiness or choices regarding individual rights, religious liberty, or economic freedom to the rest of us.  


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Fox News host Tucker Carlson slammed presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden over his mask mandate and accused Democrats of using the coronavirus pandemic as a “political weapon.”

Carlson coupled his criticism of Biden’s “power and coercion” tactics on Friday with his assessment of the Democratic Party which he blasted for politicizing the virus outbreak in order to win the election in November, all at a serious cost to Americans and the future of the country.

(Source: Fox News )

“Joe Biden has not waded too deeply into questions of public policy,” the host of “ Tucker Carlson Tonight ” said at the start of his show Friday.

“Whatever else Biden may be doing … it’s fair to say that he is not running a campaign about ideas. But Biden has made at least one campaign promise so far. He has pledged, if elected, he will force you to wear a mask when you go outside,” Carlson continued, reacting to comments made by Biden.

In a speech along with his newly-named running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, Biden suggested an eyebrow-raising proposal to impose a  national mask mandate  on Americans for the next three months as a deterrent against the coronavirus pandemic.

“Biden didn’t specify which epidemiological studies would justify a law like that,” Carlson said.

“That’s probably because there aren’t any, not a single one. But whatever, Biden’s never been much of a science guy, he’s a lifelong politician. His specialty is not public health, his specialty is power and coercion, so he does what he knows,” he added.

“Biden instead demands you forget about your so-called rights as an American and obey his orders, no questions allowed. Otherwise, you’re unpatriotic,” Carlson continued, pointing to the proposal and Biden’s remarks as yet another example of how Democrats “have decided to use our public health emergency as a political weapon to win the election.”

“Terrified, unhappy populations want change, and that’s welcome news to the party trying to take power. That’s why they are doing it,” he told Fox News viewers.

Playing into the agenda have been Democratic governors who have kept their citizens in a perpetual state of unease and fear while controlling their lives and livelihoods. Carlson contended that the cost to Americans is “profound.”

“Thanks to restrictions that are rooted in politics rather than science, children cannot go to school or play with their friends, parents can’t go to work, people can’t get married or attend funerals,” he said.

“Human contact has been drastically curtailed,” Carlson added. “These are not small things. They are essential human needs. Without them, we can’t live.”

He noted how the country has “become sadder and more isolated” in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic and the lockdowns intended to protect them. Pointing to the “massive and terrifying” increase in the number of young adults who have considered suicide as a result of the emotional toll, the Fox News host also highlighted how anxiety and depression have pushed many Americans “into a spiral from which they will not escape.”

“They’re depressed because they’re cut off from one another. They’re depressed because their lives are moving backwards,” he said.

Carlson also took a shot at infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, saying he is “just another oily politician on an ego trip, just like the rest of them.”

“Man of science. What a buffoon. But Fauci isn’t suffering during the lockdown, he’s loving it. Tony Fauci’s enjoying the hell out of himself,” Carlson said.

The White House’s top US infectious-diseases expert had responded to recent criticism of him by Carlson during a live-streamed interview Friday.

“I’m not concerned about what he says,” Fauci told the Washington Post. “It’s a little bit — I think you could say that when he does that, it triggers some of the crazies in society to start threatening me, actually threatening, which actually happens.”

Carlson went on in his monologue to expose the double standards Democrats employ, clamping down on the freedoms of Americans while celebrating left-wing riots and so-called protests in the name of social justice.

He concluded by slamming Biden and Democrats for proving they apparently think America “is not shut down enough.”

“People might be tempted to go to Church, or have dinner with their friends or work for a living. Kids could wind up in school and learn things that haven’t been pre-screened by Google. Somewhere a young couple might decide to take a walk through the woods without masks to enjoy nature and fresh air,” he argued.

“And if things like that continue,” Carlson said, “happiness might return to America. We can’t have that – not until people learn how to vote correctly.”


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TᵢG
Professor Principal
3  TᵢG    6 years ago

In principle, everyone should be wearing a mask when in proximity of other human beings (except those we live with).    The principle is fine.   We need now to hear the specifics.   Partisans of course take the extreme view and presume Biden would seek to insist that everyone wear a mask outdoors under all conditions.   That would be idiotic and until Biden offers a specific directive that is so ridiculous I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

That established, there is no reason for a person driving alone in a car to wear a mask.   Similarly, if one is walking in the park and can maintain adequate social distancing, a mask has very little effect.   Masks are important when human beings are in proximity of each other; especially when around the general public.   Masks catch much of the particulate matter of an infected person.   (Not all and it depends upon the mask.)    This helps reduce the spread of the virus and is a very sensible precaution.

Simply stated, one infected person walking around in public without sufficient social distancing can infect many others even if these others are taking precautions.    Given COVID-19 can be asymptomatic for up to 11 ½ days, people often do not know that they are actually infecting others.    Everyone should wear a mask when in proximity of the general public.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
4  sandy-2021492    6 years ago

Locked until article is properly credited.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6  Dulay    6 years ago
Biden instead demands you forget about your so-called rights as an American and obey his orders, no questions allowed.

Biden made no demands and ordered NOTHING. Tucker is lying and you swill it up. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @6    6 years ago
Biden made no demands and ordered NOTHING.

He has no power to order anything, but he did call for a "mask mandate:"

"Joe Biden has called for a nationwide "mask mandate'' for the next three months as he seeks to draw a contrast with Donald Trump's handling of the  coronavirus pandemic .

“It’s not about your rights. It’s about your responsibilities as an American,” he said, as he called on every state governor to impose orders requiring people to wear masks."




So, Tucker told the truth!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    6 years ago
He has no power to order anything, but he did call for a "mask mandate:" So, Tucker told the truth!

No he did NOT and your own comment proves it. Tucker said;

Biden instead demands you forget about your so-called rights as an American and obey his orders, no questions allowed. 

You stated that Biben called for a 'mask mandate'. So either Tucker lied when he said Biden demanded that Americans obey his order or your statement is false. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @6.2.1    6 years ago

I think your statement is false.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.3    6 years ago

I wonder why he chose 3 months????

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.6  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    6 years ago

How so Vic? 

You stated that "Biden called for a mask mandate" right? 

Yep, that was YOU.

Now, is it your posit that calling for something is the same as demanding or ordering something Vic?

Because if you are, it would behoove you to review how many Governors have 'called for' everyone to wear masks. Note that even Republican Governors have done so and I haven't heard Tucker lamenting that those are 'demands' or 'orders' that must be obeyed, no questions asked'.

Also note that Dr. Fauci has called for universal mask wearing. Yet when Biden calls for exactly the same thing Tucker goes on the attack and LIES about it.

Note that occasionally, Trump even calls for people to wear mask as patriotic. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.3    6 years ago
It’s cleR that Biden wants us all to forget about our rights and wear a mask outdoors for the next 3 months as our patriotic duty.  I refer the deniers again to 3.2 and 3.2.2

Do you think it is good for the nation (in many dimensions) to inhibit the spread of COVID-19 by wearing of masks in both indoor and outdoor public venues and in close proximity (e.g. within ~8 feet of each other)?

Do you consider it a right for you to spread an infectious disease to others in public?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.4    6 years ago

I suggest we stay tuned and see what the man actually proposes.   Maybe, when the details come forth, they will provide the reasoning behind things such as the duration as well as the conditions for public outdoor mask usage.

If, for example, Biden's specifics state that we must wear a mask when:

  • traveling alone in our car
  • walking our dog in a park with clear social distancing
  • riding our bicycles
  • ...

Then I will absolutely make critical comments on those specifics (and they will likely argue against such restrictions).   Until then, this is a sound-bite which communicates nothing more than Biden's intent to at least encourage more wearing of masks in public (especially outdoors).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @6.2.6    6 years ago
Now, is it your posit that calling for something is the same as demanding or ordering something Vic?

My posit was very clear. Biden does not have the power to do it, but by asking the Governors to do it, he will have accomplished his goal should any governors follow his lead. In that case calling for something would have the same effect as if he had ordered it. I assume everyone can see it.


Also note that Dr. Fauci has called for universal mask wearing. 

Speaking of liars - it was none other than Fauci who said masks were unnecessary:

“There is no reason for anyone right now in the United States, with regard to coronavirus, to wear a mask,” Fauci told Spectrum News DC on  February 14 .

Then the good doctor admitted that he lied so that hospitals and doctors wouldn't run out. One could argue that it was Dr Fauci that made the pandemic worse than it needed to be by not telling the truth in the beginning.


Note that occasionally, Trump even calls for people to wear mask as patriotic . 

Agreed and I'm all for everyone wearing one despite Tucker's principled points.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.8    6 years ago
Until then, this is a sound-bite which communicates nothing more than Biden's intent to at least encourage more wearing of masks in public (especially outdoors).

And if governors take his suggestion to heart?


 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.11  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.9    6 years ago
Then the good doctor admitted that he lied so that hospitals and doctors wouldn't run out. One could argue that it was Dr Fauci that made the pandemic worse than it needed to be by not telling the truth in the beginning.

It seems to me some will argue this one single point repeatedly even as late in the year as August 17.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.12  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.10    6 years ago
And if governors take his suggestion to heart?

May I wait to hear what each governor proposes before I answer?

If a governor decides that outdoor public gatherings —where social distancing of more than ~8' is not possible— requires the wearing of masks then I would find that to be quite sensible.

If a governor decides that one must wear a mask when taking out the trash or getting one's mail, I will have very critical words.

It depends on the specifics.   We have none as of yet.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.11    6 years ago

There are many incidents involved in this that we need to learn from. As somebody famous once said "It's a teaching moment!"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.12    6 years ago
If a governor decides that outdoor public gatherings —where social distancing of more than ~8' is not possible— requires the wearing of masks then I would find that to be quite sensible

I'm not asking you if you find it sensible, reasonable or safe. I'm asking you if a governor doing what Biden asked for means that Biden's influence would have caused an official government action?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.14    6 years ago
I'm asking you if a governor doing what Biden asked for means that Biden's influence would have caused an official government action?

Oh that is what you meant?

Then my answer is no.   Biden's sound-bite will absolutely not cause an official government action.  Biden has zero authority to do so.   Biden's sound-bite might encourage governors to reconsider their actions but there is no cause-effect on what they finally decide because they have no mandate from Biden to act.

To be crystal clear on this point, let's move to the R side and consider this :

The president, at a daily briefing on Thursday, spoke at length about chloroquine and a variant, hydroxychloroquine, as a promising preventative or treatment for COVID-19, even as Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House coronavirus task force, stepped to the microphone to temper Trump's enthusiasm for the drug, which is still undergoing clinical trials.

Trump said his administration had streamlined Food and Drug Administration procedures that could get the drug out quickly. "The nice part is that it's been around for a long time, so we know that if things don't go as planned, it's not going to kill anybody ," he said.

The president said he was "a big fan" of the drug's promise against COVID-19 even as he acknowledged that it needed to be tested first.

A man died as a result of ingesting a fish tank cleaner containing hydroxychloroquine.    His wife said they were inspired to take this after hearing what the president said.

Did Trump cause this man's death?

I say no.   Trump stupidly and likely inadvertently encouraged this behavior by not recognizing how some people will accept as truth what a PotUS publicly states.   Trump was grossly irresponsible with his words (nothing new here) but he did not cause this man's death.   The man died due to his own stupidity.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.15    6 years ago
I say no.

And if only Trump had said don't use hydroxychloroquine, it's not for the Coronavirus. 

We'd all be on it by now!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.16    6 years ago
And if only Trump had said don't use hydroxychloroquine, it's not for the Coronavirus. We'd all be on it by now!

I am having trouble parsing this.  What are you trying to say?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.18  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.17    6 years ago

All I'm trying to say is that Biden has influence with democratic governors. A suggestion could result in action.

Trump also has influence, but in the opposite way.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.19  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.18    6 years ago
All I'm trying to say is that Biden has influence with democratic governors. A suggestion could result in action.

Then I agree with you.  Biden's words will certainly be considered by those who would support him.  

But that is quite different from his soundbite causing government action.  It simply does not.   The governors make their own choices and weigh the available information as they see fit, just like the man who chose to ingest hydroxychloroquine.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.20  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.19    6 years ago
just like the man who chose to ingest hydroxychloroquine.

He ingested Aquarium tank cleaner.

Thank you

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.21  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.20    6 years ago

Yes he did.   He did so to get the chloroquine that it contained based on Trump's statement; he thought he was following Trump's lead.   I assume you knew this so I do not understand the purpose of your comment.

Also, my point of bringing this up was simply to illustrate the notion of cause and effect.   I figured you would not consider Trump's comment to cause this man's death.   Right?  So why are you trying to nit-pick the example?

Or are you trying to nit-pick the example because you think that Trump caused this man's death?   The example I posed is arguing that Trump did NOT cause the death.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.22  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.21    6 years ago
He did so to get the chloroquine that it contained based on Trump's statement


PROVE IT!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.23  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.22    6 years ago

That is what his wife said Vic:

"We saw his press conference. It was on a lot, actually," she said. "Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure." "We were afraid of getting sick," she told NBC. 

I am surprised that you are not aware of this story.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.24  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.23    6 years ago

I'm aware of the story, but after all it was Aquarium tank cleaner. It should NEVER have been a story. Only someone who is a devout hater of the President would bring it up.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.25  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.24    6 years ago

Vic, the facts of the story are clear.   The couple took the aquarium tank cleaner thinking it would help them avoid getting COVID-19 based on what Trump said.  That is just simply fact and I proved it to you (or at least you should be convinced by now).

I used this story to illustrate that a statement by a politician, in and of itself, does not cause people to act.   That Trump is not the cause of this man's death.  

Similarly, Biden's sound-bite suggesting the nation should wear masks for 3 months publicly does not and will not cause governor's to act.   It will, at best, be factored into the decisions they make.  

'Cause' is a strong word.  It does not apply in the Biden nor in the Trump case.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.26  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.25    6 years ago
The couple took the aquarium tank cleaner thinking it would help them avoid getting COVID-19 based on what Trump said. 

Trump never said a thing about aquarium tank cleaner.

NBC, MSNBC and CNN promoted that story. It's so sad that anyone would recite it.

Have a good one TiG.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.27  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.26    6 years ago
Trump never said a thing about aquarium tank cleaner.

Vic, please, this is now getting beyond silly.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.28  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.9    6 years ago
My posit was very clear.

It was when you posted this:

So, Tucker told the truth!

Yet your post below doesn't support that in any way. 

Biden does not have the power to do it, but by asking the Governors to do it, he will have accomplished his goal should any governors follow his lead. In that case calling for something would have the same effect as if he had ordered it. I assume everyone can see it.

Yes Vic, everyone can see that you've now back-peddled from "Tucker told the truth!" to Biden asked governors to follow his lead. At least you eventually got to the actual truth. 

Speaking of liars - it was none other than Fauci who said masks were unnecessary:

Those that claim that Fauci 'admitted that he lied' is lying. THAT has been proven here on NT multiple times. Why keep regurgitating BS? 

Agreed and I'm all for everyone wearing one despite Tucker's principled points.

How the fuck can Tucker's points be 'principled' when they are lies? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.29  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.11    6 years ago
Agreed and I'm all for everyone wearing one despite Tucker's principled points.

Sadly, they do so even though it's been debunked repeatedly right here on NT. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.30  TᵢG  replied to  Dulay @6.2.29    6 years ago
Sadly, they do so even though it's been debunked repeatedly right here on NT. 

It is as if there is no reading taking place, just stubborn head shaking and nuh-uhs.     Just incredible.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.31  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.30    6 years ago

Oh I think they read it and even accept the facts at the moment, though they won't admit it here. But when the opportunity arises, they return to their go to failed talking points and hope they get a pass just this one time. 

IMHO, it's a juvenile practice and counterproductive to intelligent discussion about real issues. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.38  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.36    6 years ago

That proves you have no clue what was discussed.   A comment made blindly.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
8  Perrie Halpern R.A.    6 years ago

This is a false comparison:

Carlson went on in his monologue to expose the double standards Democrats employ, clamping down on the freedoms of Americans while celebrating left-wing riots and so-called protests in the name of social justice.

Masks are a public health issue. Public health issues are handled by the government. 

The protests are protected by the Constitution. And while I agree that they came at a bad time, you can not claim that this is a double standard since they are not equal. 

 
 

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