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Bloomberg blasts Sanders' 'outrageous' claim that Soleimani strike was an 'assassination'

Bloomberg blasts Sanders' 'outrageous' claim that Soleimani strike was an 'assassination'


Via: KDMichigan  •  166 comments  •  5 months ago
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg balked at fellow 2020 candidate and Sen. Bernie Sanders' suggestion that President Trump carried out an "assassination" when he ordered a lethal strike on Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. When asked about the descriptor, Bloomberg said: "If he was talking about killing the general ... this is a guy who had an awful amount of American blood on his...
Jan 07 11:59pm @4.1.54 You're misrepresenting me!  ;-)
Jan 07 11:53pm @4.3.16 Much like... No. Not at all like.
Jan 07 11:47pm @4.1.52 The person who is being misrepresented, of course.
Jan 07 4:11pm @3.1.25 "..." We are worse off now than before we invaded Afghanistan. Obama had eight years to wind down the wars. He didn't do it. He stands solid with Bush and Trump.
Jan 07 12:39am @4.3.13           That, because we aren't in the magic state of being at war, your position means this guy should be allowed to keep punching us in the face and not being able to do anything about it....
Jan 07 12:30am @4.3.12 Oh, dear.... 😞
Jan 06 7:00pm @4.1.49
Jan 06 6:35pm @4.1.47 Exactly! I'm so glad you understand.
Jan 06 6:34pm @4.1.46 No. I'm suggesting a change in the rules to prevent dishonest misrepresentations like the one you just made.
Jan 06 6:25pm @4.3.9 You have indeed mischaracterized my thinking. "..." Ummm... that no state of war exists between the two nations. How could anyone misunderstand such a straightforward phrase? "..." Exactly....
Jan 05 11:33pm @4.2.14             What you are saying there is that the second highest ranking official in Iran is a notorious terrorist which in effect makes Iran the leading terrorist regime  in the ME. I've re-read...
Jan 05 11:22pm @4.2.13           I guess when you get all your talking points from Rachel Madcow you actually believe that. It's fascinating, the way wingnuts "know" stuff that's totally wrong. I guess that's not much...
Jan 05 8:53pm @4.2.9 That's funny, Sean! Did you do that on purpose?
Jan 05 8:22pm @4.1.38 So! Be happy! 
Jan 05 8:19pm @3.1.19 "..." Stop watching Fox 24/7. You'll learn all about it. Or keep watching Fox 24/7, and continue to show ignorance.
Jan 05 8:17pm @4.3.5 "..." I will.
Jan 05 8:16pm @4.1.36 Ah! Now your misquote is nothing more than a misinterpretation. OK. Then I'll answer: "..." That is a complete misinterpretation. Better? No, of course not. You might do better by asking me...
Jan 05 8:12pm @4.1.35 I was just trying to save you useless effort. I won't answer you again.
Jan 05 8:06pm @4.3.3 "..." For the fourth time today, let me suggest a new CoC violation. Any misquoting, mis-reformulation, or other distortion of another member's words should be punishable by immediate suspension.
Jan 05 7:58pm @4.1.32 "..." I think you need to study up on the Geneva Convention, concerning Prisoners of War. There's a section on irregular military - guerrillas and such.
Jan 05 7:55pm @4.1.31 Jeez, Tex! I quoted you! Copy/pasted your words: you still seem to want to portray Hezbollah as some sort of good-deed-doing social organization. You are clearly "reformulating" my words, except...
Jan 05 7:32pm @4.1.28 "..." I absolutely do not care what you think. I am telling you that I consider willful misquoting to be dishonest and despicable. If you wish to persist, I really don't mind at all. Your...
Jan 05 7:23pm @4.1.26 "..." I've only started posting today, and this is the third time that I've said that we need a new CoC violation: misquoting, mis-reformulating, or otherwise deforming another's words. Violation...
Jan 05 7:17pm @4.3.1 "..." ... was killed while the US and Japan were at war. The US and Iran are not at war. I realize that the US - under all the recent Presidents - has pretty much declared that it may do...
Jan 05 7:11pm @4.2.7 "..." Seriously, Sean? He was "illegally" in Iraq, which is now pretty much an Iranian puppet state? Sean! You know that that's horseshit! ... and now that the Iraqi parliament has voted the...
Jan 05 7:09pm @4.1.24 Some Israeli settlements are occupied by "paramilitary" personnel. Israel defines them as civilians. They go purposefully into a battle zone. They carry weapons full-time. Hizbollah calls them...
Jan 05 7:06pm @3.1.16 You only watch Fox, right?
Jan 05 7:04pm @4.1.23 Don't bother to address me, Buzz.
Jan 05 7:03pm @4.1.22 "..." Hey! That is "nuance". Not allowed here.... Black is allowed. White is allowed. Gray is not allowed. Keep It Simple, Stupid!
Jan 05 6:59pm @4.1.21 "..." Really? Hasn't the US government - which runs a lot of social services, too - been a bit threatening lately? "52 sites" or something? "..." Soldiers kill soldiers. Terrorists kill...
Jan 05 6:33pm @4.1.16 [Deleted] Posts like yours are s-o-o-o-o tiresome...
Jan 05 6:22pm @4.1.13 Indeed. And perhaps the ayatollahs have declared the SEALs a "terrorist organization". Hizbollah has also been declared a "terrorist organization", although it runs social services in Lebanon, and...
Jan 05 6:16pm @3.1.13 "..." "..." "..." Are you saying that the evidence that has been made public, proving that the President tried to extort, from a foreign power, action against a domestic political...
Jan 05 6:09pm @4.1.11 "..." Source?
Jan 05 6:06pm @4.1.10 "..." What is a "terrorist", C4P? Did you know that the Brits labeled our Founding Fathers "terrorists"? Soleimani was a legitimate general in a legitimate uniform in a legitimate army. He was...
Jan 05 5:43pm @4.1.5
Jan 05 5:42pm @4.1.4 That's what generals do, you know... They plan operations with the purpose of killing lots of the enemy. That is their job. Just as American generals planned the killing of Soleimani. That's their...
Jan 05 5:34pm @4.2.1 Ya got it, Sean! As usual...
Jan 05 5:26pm @4.1.1 Nice attempt at misdirection... but no go.
Jan 05 4:49pm @4 So much saliva lost for no reason. Go look at a dictionary (Merriam-Webster): "..." Whatever one may think of the justification for Soleimani's killing, it clearly was an "assassination". It was...
Iran Puts $80M Bounty on Trump’s Head for Soleimani Hit

Iran Puts $80M Bounty on Trump’s Head for Soleimani Hit


Via: Heartland American  •  148 comments  •  5 months ago
So the terrorist regime in Iran is calling for the assassination of our elected President and offered a bounty to whomever does it.  That’s typical of that regime.  Most Iranians celebrated the death of the terrorist who so ruthlessly repressed them.  This is a chance for America’s progressive left to stand with America and our elected government against an enemy terrorist regime attempting to...
Jan 07 11:58pm @7.1.23 ;-)
Jan 07 4:03pm @7.1.21 "..." Nope. Didn't do that. I do blame Trump (and Obama and above all Bush) for the monstrous waste of lives and fortune in the Middle East. But I don't blame America. The President is not the...
Jan 07 3:59pm @7.1.20 I may have misunderstood you. If you tell me that Trump is a liar, scoundrel, crook, then I will apologize for having said you idolize him.
Jan 07 12:28am @5.1.8 Both are important, John. We'll never agree on any truth, if we aren't civil
Jan 06 11:46pm @5.1.6 I got a CoC violation for reacting as though that post is insane. I've re-read it several times. It still seems insane. Doesn't it?
Jan 06 11:39pm @3.1.21 That would be s-o-o-o sad...  😟
Jan 06 11:37pm @7.1.13 John - I think you meant to answer Tacos, not me.
Jan 06 11:19pm @7.1.12 Three dimensional chess!
Jan 06 11:12pm @3.1.18 Everyone has completely forgotten Sarah Palin... including probably our most excellent Cornhusker4Palin. We only remember the former mayor of Wasilla - that was her qualification for the...
Jan 06 11:03pm @7.1.9 Don’t ask me. Trump is your deity. You (collective "you", not you personally) obey his every whim. You endorse his follies. It's your responsibility to explain both his words and his actions. It...
Jan 06 6:28pm @7.1.6 It must be nice to have followers who will believe anything you say... ... or alternatively... ... disbelieve anything you say... ... depending on what you need.
Jan 06 6:07pm @7.1.3 So... are we just going to bomb the hell out of Iran? Including, as President Trump made clear, "cultural sites"? Just how barbaric are we?
Jan 06 12:41am @7.1           They sponsor murder and terrorism throughout the region. America's pointless wars have killed tens of thousands... and accomplished nothing. Now we are preparing to occupy Iran. I...
Jan 05 11:50pm @5.1.4 [Deleted]
Jan 05 11:47pm @3.1.11 No matter what nick you may take... you will always remain our beloved Cornhusker4Palin!
Jan 05 11:42pm @3.1.9 True. But inside my Reply I'd have to consecrate at least a teeny tiny effort to remembering what nick he's currently using. Whereas Cornhusker4Palin is so memorable that it requires no effort....
Jan 05 11:01pm @5.1.2 . .. and how could anyone possibly have anything less than perfect confidence in your diagnosis? :-)
Jan 05 10:58pm @3.1.5 I can't be bothered to remember what nick you are using this week. You were a very proud Cornhusker4Palin, and I will always think of you that way. I mean... anyone who could be a fan of Sarah...
Jan 05 8:24pm @2.1.2 P-s-s-s-t! That's a random MAGA bullet point, to be trotted out at any random moment...
Jan 05 7:34pm @4.1.8 Interesting...
Jan 05 7:27pm @5.1 The intellectual power and clarity of your posts is admirable...
Jan 05 7:26pm @4.1.6 "..." Interesting...
Jan 05 6:53pm @4.1 If President Trump were assassinated... what would be your first thought? And everyone's...
Jan 05 6:51pm @3.1.1 Good Lord, C4P! Have you ever looked up "Iran"? A little less than two and a half times the area of Texas, and almost three times the population. Obviously the US military could destroy Iran's in...
Jan 05 6:28pm @3 Gee... No one could have seen this coming! 
Defiant Trump doubles down on threat to Iran cultural sites

Defiant Trump doubles down on threat to Iran cultural sites


Via: Krishna  •  53 comments  •  5 months ago
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says that "every target that we strike will be a lawful target" (AFP Photo/Johannes EISELE) Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump doubled down Sunday on a threat to attack Iranian cultural sites despite accusations that any such strike would amount to a war crime. After his top diplomat, Mike Pompeo, had insisted that any military...
Jan 07 4:05pm @4.2.4 Yes. Pandora's Box is open, and we have no idea what will fly out...
Jan 07 12:52am @7.1.3           the paintings were auctioned off. Now there's an interesting idea!
Jan 07 12:13am @4.2.1 D'ya think??? D'ya mean that if we blow up someone else's Washington Monument, they might blow up ours? Gee..
Jan 06 6:41pm @7.2.1 "..." Well said.
Jan 06 6:40pm @3.1.2 Um... you're completely missing the important point here... For his idolators, he is Perfect. That is s-o-o-o much worse than "totally unfit"...
Jan 06 6:37pm @7.1.1 American drones shredding the Vatican! ... somehow, I doubt it...
Jan 06 12:26am @7 There are two ways to define what is right in America today:  - what is legal, ethical,  - what is done / said by Trump. For a Trumpist, that second method is genuine. Whatever Trump does is...
Did Donald Trump Just Start a War with Iran?

Did Donald Trump Just Start a War with Iran?


Via: Krishna  •  121 comments  •  5 months ago
Photo: Two American political leaders The U.S. drone strike that killed Major General Qasem Soleimani, one of Iran’s top military leaders, is an extremely provocative incident. It triggered  immediate vows of retaliation  from Tehran, and there is every reason to assume that the clerical government intends to fulfill those vows. Washington’s strike is the latest move in a...
Jan 07 12:48am @2.1.19 https://thenewstalkers.com/perrie-halpern/group_discuss/7458/whither-in-2020 Don’t be cynical. That's a cheap way out. Come help us try to make things better.
Jan 05 11:53pm @4.1.11           You're absolutely right! Of course. Always. ;-)
Jan 05 8:21pm @4.3.14 Is that an attempt at some sort of judo move? Or just gibberish?
Jan 05 8:03pm @10.2.5 Don't bother to address me.
Jan 05 8:02pm @4.3.12 Trump does that, too. Just claim victory - someone may believe you. Or they may do a few minutes' research, in which case they'll know you s-o-o-o much better! 
Jan 05 7:36pm @4.3.10 Wow. Hitler, already. Ah, Sean...
Jan 05 7:01pm @4.3.8 "..." For that time and that region... certainly.
Jan 05 6:08pm @10.2.3 It's a graven invitation to go full steam ahead, without the hassle of trying to hide anything.
Jan 05 5:54pm @4.3.6 I really would like to know whether you actually believe what you post. I know you're intelligent, so I have to assume that your misuse of facts and logic is intentional. But that's very strange...
Jan 05 5:48pm @10.2.1 The Iranians have clearly stated that they no longer consider that any constraints on their nuclear programs are valid. They will go full speed ahead. Trump has demonstrated that he will respect...
Jan 05 5:32pm @5.1.6 "..." I beg to differ! I'm pretty sure Kim Jong-un is laughing his ass off and guzzling champagne.
Jan 05 5:28pm @1.4.4 And that post was pertinent... how? Oh wait... asking C4P to stay pertinent is uncharitable, perhaps to the point of being a CoC violation...
Jan 05 5:24pm @10.1 "..." Ummm.... America just assassinated a very high Iranian official. So... if Iran assassinated, say, the American Secretary of Defense, it would NOT be "escalation" - it would be "appropriate...
Jan 05 5:17pm @5.1.4 They have to use strawmen. Their real arguments are existent. Of course... some of them don't understand what a strawman is, because they don't know the difference between reality and FoxWorld.
Jan 05 5:15pm @4.3.4 "..." Since 1953, to be precise. When the CIA overthrew the legitimate, democratic government of Iran, and installed a police-state. Why do you do this, Sean? You know history. Why do you...
Jan 05 5:12pm @4.1.9 You can challenge them for proof a zillion times - they won't answer. They know they're bullshitting, and they don't care. Truth and facts are of zero value to them. Annoying a "proglib",...
Jan 05 5:06pm @3.1.1 "..." And you know this... how? Do you have a "handbook fo 'liberal logic' "? Would you share it with us? Or are you perhaps... just perhaps... makin' shit up?
Jan 05 5:03pm @2.1.16 "..." Excellent question. Perhaps misquoting, and mis-reformulating, and all such mischief should be a COC violation with automatic suspension. Members might be more careful...
Jan 05 5:00pm @1.4.2 "..." What escalation? There was none. Oh, wait... you're taking Trump's word for it... 
Jan 05 4:57pm @1.1.3 "..." ... because America did strike first in the long ugly relationship between the two countries. In 1953, the CIA piloted a coup that overthrew the democratically elected Prime Minister,...
This Robot’s Journey to an Icy Alien Moon Starts Beneath Antarctica

This Robot’s Journey to an Icy Alien Moon Starts Beneath Antarctica


Via: TᵢG  •  44 comments  •  5 months ago
A video of the Bruie rover is here .
Jan 05 11:05pm @1.1.12 Heresy! Mars Trilogy, Kim Stanley Robinson
Jan 05 6:37pm @1.1.5 I wonder which will be easier to terraform in the year 2200: Europa... or... Earth...
Jan 05 6:24pm @1.1.3 Excellent questions. And the same might be asked of alien life that "discovers" the Earth...
Jan 05 4:39pm @3 Cool!