The truth about Clinton’s health
I N HILLARY CLINTON’S inner circle, it’s common knowledge that there are times she’s so low-energy that she blanks out for hours. When that happens, she is given to strange mental spells during which she has little or no control over what she says and does. She sometimes mutters things no one can understand.
My colleagues in the mainstream media are covering all this up, but the time has come to speak out. We simply can’t elect a president subject to such mysterious health issues.
What’s that you say?
It’s nothing?
sleeps at night, like the rest of us.
Oh. Ahem. Well, never mind that, then. There are plenty of other health problems to worry about. For instance, I hear from Donald Trump that Hillary simply doesn’t have his stamina — and that’s troubling indeed, since he often does as many as one campaign event a day, before flying home to spend the night in Trump Tower
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She doesn't look robust enough for all the lying and lawbreaking she would indulge in as POTUS.
I think this will be an interesting topic today.
I think this will be an interesting topic today.
I agree. The fact that certain people feel that a satiric, sarcastic newspaper column, is on their side and makes their point, is jaw dropping.
Abrubtly leaving the 911 memorial with a medial issue is a topic worth discussing.
Overheating and feeling faint is not unusual in elderly people like Hillary whose frail bodies may have trouble adjusting to warm weather that nobody else would notice. As long as she avoids stress, stays inside when it's above 80 degrees or travels by wheelchair, wears loose fitting moo-moo like clothing, walks in comfortable shoes like hospital slippers or athletic basketball sneakers, and has someone with her when she takes a shit, she should be just fine. She chose her hospital sign logo wisely.
It was between 70 and 80 degrees at between 9-10 a.m. Most mild day in New York we've had for the better part of the last 3 months......I wonder how she held up on campaign stops where the temps were much higher.
And John, if you were honest with yourself, you would be asking questions about her health and about the bizarre desire to cast half the electorate as 'Deplorable'. But you go ahead and go after the reporter instead. Don't call yourself progressive, Flo will likely come beat you with her 'Name Your Price' tool.
If Hillary fell over at 80 degrees in New York, then how did she manage to stay alive in the mid-atlantic heat/humidity in Washington DC? She belongs in a nursing home, not the white house.
Published on Sep 11, 2016
UPDATE: Insider has said and I quote "it was a grand mall.
She is in a hospital and she is disoriented.
She has Huma and secret Service only
Mills on the way"
In the real world, Hillary Clinton just proceeded to her next campaign event.
In the real world, Hillary Clinton just proceeded to her next campaign event .
In the real world Hillary Clinton is doing very little campaign events. She is doing a whole lot of private fundraising events because she knows how that money gives her leverage even if she loses.
Say Trump was 12 points behind a couple of weeks ago.
We need a little information from a credible mainstream media source here:
Hillary’s Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
71% of doctors say Hillary's health concern's are "serious" and "could be disqualifying"
Concerns about Hillary Clinton’s health are “serious—could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.,” say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were “likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records.” Only 2.7% responded that they were “just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern.”
While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis.
More than 78% said the health concerns had received “not enough emphasis” in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been “too much emphasis.”
Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate’s fitness to serve for health reasons should “make the concerns known to the public.” Only 11% said a physician should “keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient,” and 10% that the candidate’s health was “off limits for public discussion.”
Eighty-eight respondents submitted comments . One said that “the public interest will ALWAYS override either privacy rights or rights of self-determination in the case of a presidential candidate.” Another mentioned Clinton’s “so called loss of memory claimed during her FBI questioning about her email server.” Beyond the specific questions, one remarked that “I think that the candidate should be honest with the public about his/her health!” The history of the concussion was concerning: “The public must watch the movie Concussion to realize that such an injury does affect thought process.”
A poll of 833 randomly selected registered voters by Gravis Marketing showed that nearly half (49%) were not aware of the “well documented major health issues that Hillary Clinton has.” Nearly three-fourths (74%) were unaware of Bill Clinton’s statement that Hillary suffered a “terrible” concussion requiring “six months of very serious work to get over.” The majority (57%) thought that candidates should release their medical records.
“Both physicians and other voters think that health concerns are relevant when choosing a presidential candidate,” states AAPS executive director Jane M. Orient, M.D. “However, more than 40% of physician respondents were unaware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and the vast majority of voters were not aware of all of Clinton’s problems or their potential serious long-term implications for cognitive function.”
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a national organization representing physicians in virtually all specialties and every state. Founded in 1943, AAPS has the motto “omnia pro aegroto,” which means “all for the patient.”
Infowars is not a credible source.
The AAPS is a right wing doctor's organization.
"AAPS will strive to do our part to help carry on her work"
Debt of Gratitude to Phyllis Schlafly, American Hero
Sep 9, 2016
America lost a valiant, courageous, and wise leader Monday with the passing of Phyllis Schlafly—an immeasurable loss for our country and exceedingly so for the AAPS family. We owe a debt of gratitude to Mrs. Schlafly, not only for her lifetime of service to our country, but for giving life to sons Andrew, our AAPS General Counsel of over 20... read more
The poll is phony. It asked questions about Clinton's health that were based on fake medical records.
The poll is phony. It asked questions about Clinton's health that were based on fake medical records.
Please provide the questions that were asked and the fake medical records. And then provide what you consider a credible source and any information they have put forth on Hillary's health.
Is her doctor a credible source to you?
You cite a phony poll conducted of a group of conservative doctors , and you think that is legitimate? lol.
AAPS is a conservative group associated with the Schlaflys. On their website they say they want to continue her work. You don't need a ton of bricks to fall on you, do you?
The poll is phony. It asked questions about Clinton's health that were based on fake medical records.
Please provide the questions that were asked and the fake medical records. And then provide what you consider a credible source and any information they have put forth on Hillary's health.
Clinton's doctor would be the one from whom to get a report of her health, not Infowars, which propagated the false information on which the poll was based.
We need a little information from a credible mainstream media source here:
I wonder-- has anyone done a poll to determine what all the self-appointed "experts" on Newstalkers think of her health?
We shouldn't jump to any conclusions 'till we hear their pearls of wisdom . . .
Here's video of her collapsing trying to get in the van:
This is not normal.
It's actually pretty sad that she has no family or friends willing to step up and tell her to stop for her own health. The campaign is obviously too much for her, even her campaign of staying out of site as much as possible. Having to actually govern is going to be so much more stress.
She's apparently just a meal ticket to those close to her.
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Watch the video John. Feel free to say how normal it is to be passed out on your feet waiting to be thrown head first into a van.
if I wanted trump to win, I'd be desperate for Clinton to stay in the race. She's pretty much the only elected democrat in the country Trump might beat.
She could look like this and she would be preferable to Trump
Saying that a Hillary presidency would be the same whether she's dead or alive isn't saying much about her.
She's apparently just a meal ticket to those close to her.
Boy was she having a hard time of that or not? As soon as she is of no use to the media, her loving fans and the "Pay for Play" members, she'll be cast to the side faster than a speeding bullet as all the people before her have been done by the left and greedy SOB's who are depending on her.
Actually it is not impossible to have some sympathy for her even in her darkest days when you see someone suffering like this.
This is not normal.
Stumbling into a van may actually be normal for her . Hillary projects the image of an image of an old woman, depending on others to keep her upright, while Putin is riding bare-chested on horseback in Siberia somewhere. Is she running for President just because she's too cheap to pay for her own assisted living?
What this country needs is a Trump on horseback!
You people really need to start to read the source material...
Here’s what I’ve learned: Clinton suffers from weird seizures, psychotic facial tics, and strange lesions on her tongue — and the question is whether it’s all caused by brain damage or narcissistic personality disorder. Or even drug abuse. Or syphilis.
Now you can say, Scot, that’s the sort of cross-eyed crazy stuff you hear from Alex Jones and Infowars and Paul Joseph Watson, but I’m telling you, this is serious! Why, some of it has even been explored on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, and if there’s anyone who understands odd behavior that can result from intellectual impairment, it’s Sean.
So we Americans must rise as one and demand that President Obama appoint a special medical prosecutor to look into Clinton’s health. I’m talking a CAT scan, an MRI, drug and alcohol and rabies tests, the works. Especially that one where they tap your knee with a little hammer to see if your leg jerks, because if Clinton’s can’t do that, she won’t be able to kick Angela Merkel under the table if Angela drinks a little too much Riesling at one of those big meetings world leaders have and starts bragging to Mr. Putin about all the spies we have in Moscow.
It all has to be done in the next month or so, so we Americans will know who is right, Clinton’s doctors or the real experts.
And if Clinton won’t cooperate? Well, Congress has to make it clear that if she’s elected and so much as misses a day of work for any health reason except catching a common cold, it will be considered an impeachable offense.
This is a satire.
Yes, but you stop short.
It is not a satire of Clinton's health, it is a satire of people who believe fake medical records and doctored videos.
Was that a doctored video at the van? Show proof that it was doctored with all the security jumping in front of her to keep anyone videoing it from being able to video it.
No one was standing in front of her before she started toward the van. Only after she started walking toward the van and as she arrived at the side of the van.
Was that doctored?
Look, it is in no way wrong to question if a candidate's health is good enough to assume the position for which she is running. Thousands of people were at the memorial in the same heat she was, how many suffered heat related fainting? There is something definitely wrong with her health and it is in the best interest of the country to not keep this a secret anymore.
Jennilee, her health doesn't mean anything to those who want her to win the election. Some of them could care less what happens to her after she is elected. The objective is to win the election, in spite of her health conditions, good or bad, or for that matter detrimental to her. Too many only hope she makes it past election day and wins.
Once she is in the Democrats can take her out of office if they desire. Once she is the President, they will turn on her like they have on so many other fallen Democrats and simply replace her. Too many don't give a crap about her health condition. They won't be protecting her any longer. If she truly has health problems worthy of expelling her from office, they will be more than happy to divulge them. You wait and see.
Then they can continue their objective to turn this country into the Fascist country they have been working on for so many years.
It's already a Banana Republic.
There's nothing wrong with Hillary that isn't wrong with everybody else in the old folks home. She can lie her way out of a lot of things but growing old is not one of them.
Let's not forget that due to Bill and Hillary's fiscal incompetence and poor decision making they came out of the White house dead broke. During this time of financial hardship she probably didn't have access to good healthcare. If not for their incompetence they might have been able to catch her problem earlier and nip it in the butt.
Let's not forget that due to Bill and Hillary's fiscal incompetence and poor decision making they came out of the White house dead broke. During this time of financial hardship she probably didn't have access to good healthcare. If not for their incompetence they might have been able to catch her problem earlier and nip it in the butt.
Just to clarify, Bill and Hillary were technically broke because they owed millions of dollars in legal fees defending themselves in the whitewater, Monica Lewinsky, and Paula Jones scandals. Understandably, they don't like to focus too much on the embarrassing scandals that triggered their financial plight. As for health care, they continued to have the right to free medical care at military hospitals (like Walter Reed) and could get the same health care arrangement as government employees. So if she needed her head examined, she could have taken it over to Walter Reed.
Jennilee, her health doesn't mean anything to those who want her to win the election. Some of them could care less what happens to her after she is elected. The objective is to win the election, in spite of her health conditions, good or bad, or for that matter detrimental to her. Too many only hope she makes it past election day and wins.
Exactly.
I think many people (on both sides of the aisle, BTW) may be making too big a deal about this.
If as president she is unable to fulfil her duties, the outcome is clear. In fact, the Constitution provides for that-- the Vice President takes over.
So voters in this election who feel Clinton's health is a serious problem still do have a real choice-- they can choose between having Trump as president-- or Tim Kaine. (Its really just that simple).
If as president she is unable to fulfil her duties, the outcome is clear. In fact, the Constitution provides for that-- the Vice President takes over.
So voters in this election who feel Clinton's health is a serious problem still do have a real choice-- they can choose between having Trump as president-- or Tim Kaine. (Its really just that simple).
Although the constitution is clear that the Vice President takes over if the president is unable to discharge his duties, it doesn't address what constitutes an inability to perform the duties of the office or state whether it's anything other than a self-assessment by the person who is impaired.
After he left office, Ronald Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, a devastating disease that impairs reasoning and judgment. He may have been in the early stages of the disease while still in office. The effects of the disease will be less obvious if others cover it up by organizing as much of his day for him as possible. Therefore, the president may be able to discharge his duties within the meaning of the constitution even if he is little more than a sock puppet.
Being the mental equivalent of a sock puppet does not disqualify a person from running for office and it's not grounds for impeachment. So Tim Kaine won't be taking over anything unless Hillary agrees to step down. In effect, we could be run by those who manage her (and if Bill does it, then it's arguably an unconstitutional third term in office). If people want to question the mental state of a candidate, then the time to do it is now because later may be too late.
Woodrow Wilson is the example of a sock puppet his last few years in office. He was essentially incapacitated and it was hidden.
I'm afraid it could be due to all the second hand smoke she was exposed to as a result of Bill not inhaling.
LOL Dean. That was funny.
JUST for Jollies, I looked up what previous presidents have had as illnesses: LINK
George Washington: diphtheria, tuberculosis, recurring malaria, smallpox, carbuncles, sterility resulting from tuberculosis, and, of course, badly fitting false teeth.
Abraham Lincoln: Possibly Marfan's disease, malaria, frozen feet, nearly lost a thumb to an axe, his left eye traveled upward due to being kicked in the face by a horse, a victim of domestic violence, and phenochromocytora--a form of cancer of the thyroid or adrenal gland.
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Polio, (he governed from a wheelchair), hypertension, malignant melanoma, cancerous tumor, congestive heart failure. Of course, FDR died while in office, in his 4th term.
Dwight David Eisenhower: Crohn's disease, arthritis, heart attack while in office, small bowel obstruction resulting in surgery, gall bladder, and stroke.
John F. Kennedy: Hypothyroidism, hypogonadism, pernicious anemia, colitis, Cushingism, likely osteoporosis, and Addison's disease, which could have killed him at any moment.
Richard M. Nixon: phlebitis, mental illness & paranoia, (Nixon was unable to fulfill his duties as president and Kissinger order the military to go to DEFCON 3 during the Arab/Israeli crisis of 1973, stroke after the presidency.
Ronald Reagan: severe nearsightedness, (he wore contacts), prostate stones, broken femur, osteoarthritis, Alzheimer's Disease, (while still in office-- the early onset), hearing loss, colon polyps and cancerous tumor, small basal cell carcinoma
So, while I believe that BOTH candidates should release their medical records, or at least be examined by an independent physician, I do NOT believe that sitting in a wheelchair should disqualify someone from the presidency. Nor do I believe that the stresses of a campaign should be completely discounted. Nor the effects of heat and humidity on a person who is tired.
Note: The link above is really fascinating!
Actually I have my doubts as to the seriousness of Hillary's health. I think she is totally stressed out knowing there are things out there that could completely destroy her. I mean totally stressed out and it is manifesting itsef in these things she is experiencing and we are seeing.
But there is little doubt after seeing the van video, something is not right.
I know it is hard for many to imagine, but how would you feel if you knew you were about to be convicted and taken away from all you've known for 30 years in total disgrace? It would be like all the cards come falling down on you at once.
Think of the worse thing that could ever happen to you or those you love the most. Think about having that feeling not for a moment, but for an extended time. That's the feeling I'm talking about. I don't want anyone to think I hope anything happens to anyone. I'm only trying to get you to feel that feeling and think how it would affect you.
Stress kills and manifest itself in people in many ways, particularly mental and physical health, especially if it continues for some time. Even after the stress is over or comes to an end, it may take years to overcome the damage from it. Some never recover.
I know of an example I will give you.
This man was very successful in his business. He had been in business for years. He was found to be doing something in his business that provided a lot more profit than was legal for him to do. He had never been in trouble and was very well thought of in the community.
He and his wife were top of the list of people at the country club and any city functions, highly regarded in the church they attended. When the regulatory agency came down on him and closed his business more than a dozen people lost their jobs, he was fined a huge amount of money, his wife basically lost her mind and had to be admitted to a facility that dealt with such cases.
He died within two years. Imagine going to bed each night when the last thing on your mind is how your whole word has been turned upside down and waking up in the morning to the first thought of your whole world destroyed.
People in their position were much more affected by this than a person who was never in their position in the first place.
"she is given to strange mental spells during which she has little or no control over what she says and does."
So? Donald Trump has them too, and he doesn't even try to hide them.
They threw that one right down the middle of the plate for you.
True dat!
Pneumonia? And it took them all day to announce this? Sorry, I don't believe it. If she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, they certainly would have informed the media roght away, instead of keeping them out of the loop for almost all day, knowing speculation would ruse immediately.
"...they certainly would have informed the media right away,"
They probably did, but the media is corrupt and hid the news from the public.
I did read though that she has cancelled her California trip in order to rest. I think a lot of voters may be having second thoughts now. I wonder if a poll will be taken soon - the results should be interesting.
If her health is a real issue, the Democratic Party needs to force her out and replace her with Joe Biden.
No equivocating, no preserving egos, no bullshitting us.
And I don't mean tomorrow.
I once supported Biden and I'd think about it again if he replaced her.
If her health is a real issue, the Democratic Party needs to force her out and replace her with Joe Biden
Not gonna happen . Hillary as the choice was predicated on a sexist assumption that it was women's "turn" .
Does the law indicate no third term consecutive with the first two, or just no third term (meaning at any time)? If it is the former couldn't the Dems run Bill in her place? She would still be in the White House and they would save a lot of signage costs.
Notwithstanding his scandals, I bet a lot of voters would be relieved to see someone with a lot of experience taking over.
And what about Bernie? He was pretty popular, although I have reason to hope he would never be POTUS.
It's no third term period, not just no third consecutive term.
Thanks, 1ofmany.
Walking pneumonia is contagious. If she has walking pneumonia, then why is she exposing everyone else to it?
I'm just glad she has her doctor treating her, and not Trump's doctor.
People say she has a body double...