Terrifying British Study Shows Trump Supporters Are Now Basically Unreachable
British researchers from Oxford University have proved definitively that Trump supporters share more "junk" political news over Twitter and Facebook "than all other groups combined".
At the Banter, we strive to provide our readers with well sourced, fact checked writing. If we make mistakes, we correct them. Poorly constructed arguments don't make it out of our editorial process (some of them mine), and we take great pride in upholding high standards. Why? Because in the long run, the truth always wins. Always .
Right now, we are in the midst of a very serious crisis. Truth and the rules of evidence are under attack by a radical government that thinks little of lying and distorting evidence for its own, nefarious purposes. Donald Trump and his administration rose to power through lying, and they are maintaining it by continuing to propagate the same myths they sold their gullible supporters. Immigrants are to blame for all of America's woes. Liberals are trying to destroy the country. Facts are subjective. Climate change is a hoax. Tax cuts solve everything. Lying doesn't matter. And on, and on, and on.
An entire media ecosystem exists to perpetuate the lies told by Trump and the GOP -- outlets that don't meet the most basic standards of journalism. Fox News, Breitbart, Newsmax, Townhall, and a host of other propaganda sites have made it their mission to distort the truth, ignore reality and feed their audiences with dangerous myths. The net result is a radical government protected by a bubble of insanity maintained by radical media outlets that are only interested in power.
The people who run these organizations know exactly what they are doing and rely on the ignorance of vast swathes of society to keep up the facade. The unconscious masses who give into their fears of "other" and voted in the monster currently in office work diligently to spread the falsehoods responsible for maintaining Trump's grip on power. This is not subjective reporting, but fact. British researchers from Oxford University have proved definitively that Trump supporters share more "junk" political news over Twitter and Facebook "than all other groups combined". Reported McClatchy :
Backers of President Donald Trump are sharing more “junk” political news – ideologically extreme, conspiratorial, sensationalist and phony information – over Twitter and Facebook than all other groups combined, significantly magnifying the polarization in the American electorate, according to an analysis by British researchers.
Rather than obtaining news over social media from mainstream outlets, these Americans shared posts from 92 Twitter accounts of fringe groups such as "100PercentFEDUp," "Beforeitsnews," "TheAngryAmericans" and "WeArethenewmedia" during the three months before Trump’s first State of the Union address, the Oxford University researchers reported.
The study, which culled data from hundreds of thousands of social media accounts, found similar patterns among Facebook users.
Unsurprisingly, Breitbart News and InfoWars were deemed by the study to be "especially sympathetic to Trump and his administration," along with the National Review, Hannity.com, the site of Fox News talk show host Sean Hannity, and the New York Daily News. All routinely publish misleading news, conspiracy theories and outright falsehoods that are propagated furiously by Trump supporters:
Among a sample of Twitter users with strong connections to one of 10 groups along the political spectrum, the researchers found that 96 percent of Trump backers widely shared “junk” news and did so more than all other groups combined; the groups included military and gun rights supporters, liberals and other Democrats, and more. Among 13 similar categories of Facebook users, 91 percent of “hard conservatives” circulated junk news, also more than all other categories combined.
The report also concluded that the "facts" reported by far right sites shared by Trump supporters are so detached from reality that it makes dialogue with them completely impossible:
Although the “junk” news sites considered in the analysis included those on both the left and right, lead researcher Philip Howard said the findings suggest "that most of the junk news that people share over social media ends up with Trump’s fans, the far right. They’re playing with different facts, and they think they have the inside scoop on conspiracies."
As a result, he said in a phone interview, it appears that "a small chunk of the population isn’t able to talk politics or share ideas in a sensible way with the rest of the population."
This is, well, pretty damn terrifying. This "small chunk of the population" has an outsized influence on public discourse that has led to an almost complete breakdown of civil society in America. The right wing media understands its audience extremely well and must continue to throw them enough red meat to keep them happy. The further they go, the harder it is to come back to reality. Sean Hannity, for example, is now so far removed from anything resembling consensus reality that he and his rabid viewers are incapable of discussing politics with anyone other than themselves.
I have argued that reconciliation with Trump supporters and the fringe right is a necessity at some point if the country is to survive in the long term. But in the short term, this is now completely impossible. Trump supporters cannot be reached, talked to, or negotiated with, so there is little point it trying. The only thing that counts is upholding the rule of law, voting the complicit GOP out of office in the midterms, and booting out Trump in 2020 (should he survive that long). There can be reconciliation, but only after the adults take back control of the country.
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That article is so spot on, it should alarm all (though, ive been known to sleep through alarms)
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Great Seed TG, hopefully it grows into a reason to see the Treeson
thank-you
Excellent article Trout Giggles.
Around here, all one needs to do in order to verify the truth of the seeded article is observe right wingers comments and sources every day. For the most part they are out of it.
I also agree there is no point in trying to find common ground with them at the present time. Trumpism must be defeated like the plague it is.
Thank-you, John
"I have argued that reconciliation with Trump supporters and the fringe right is a necessity at some point if the country is to survive in the long term. But in the short term, this is now completely impossible. Trump supporters cannot be reached, talked to, or negotiated with, so there is little point it trying."
The last time we had such an impasse we ended up in a civil war. Hopefully the 35% of Trump loyalists won't push it to that extent like their ancestors did 150 years ago by attacking the union. Sadly, they really aren't smart enough to see that we'd end up with the same result, a lot of dead Americans and the ignorant bigots losing, again.
Maybe this is simply a warning to 'steer clear' so as to not get 'cooties.'
omg....it is soooooooo serious.
How is it better?
Who says that besides republicans who think that's what Democrats want?
Back it up with facts, Sunshine
back up your rag article.
Comment deleted for skirting the CoC. jwc2blue
Why can't you put forth something of substance, that might change the flow, as to
where this article does point, and you do go ?
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the article is getting the comments it deserves
There are a handful of right wingers on this site who never have anything factual to offer. They babble whatever the latest Fox News or Breitbart talking points are.
It's that simple.
couldn't agree more, for a change
'eat a peach' great album
I already stated it was an opinion piece and that it backs up what I've been seeing on social media.
And you are doing your level best to make sure that it does, right?
It's the right's new(ish) shtick. They run around like children telling everyone what liberals/democrats think in order to satisfy their hateful and stupid agenda.
I love mind readers, don't you?
im not even sure what I'm saying most of the time, not sure exactly,how it gets removed, cause sometimes I would like to know what pointless point, I was pointing to, but I die egress N through caution out the window(large enuff for fully equipped firemen with packs thrown on their bax)
and must pre apologize, for the empty slate as I'm just an empty plate
to all of those illiterate mind readers telling me to go figuratively in to that good nnight tripping over the alliteration littered about, literally, wherever I pant and paint it read, cause it is never ever anything , I might have not ever never
said
Always preferred Live at the Fillmore East. A true classic.
It's no mystery that Democrat majority States make more money, are less reliant on the federal government and pay more in taxes than they take in entitlements unlike most Republican majority States that have more people on food stamps, welfare and unemployment where they take as much as 7 times more in entitlements than they pay in taxes. Well, I guess it is a mystery to those who have trouble with reading comprehension and math as those who ridicule higher education often do. It's easier for them to just whine about the intellectual elites and blame liberals and democrats for their problems than to go get educated and get off of government handouts.
What I like is this article is from the British and we all know how unbiased they are. LOL!!! Of course they do have a little problem speaking their mind over there unless they are speaking from a Leftist position.
And don't forget when using 'Mediabiasfactcheck' to move your 'dot' to the left one notch to be accurate, since Mediabiasfactcheck is run out of a house in the most Liberal city in North Carolina, Greensboro.
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from another source:
On Twitter, the Trump support group shared content from 96% of the junk news sources on the researchers' watch list. Moreover, the Trump support group accounted for 55% of all the junk news traffic in the sample. On Facebook, the hard conservative group shared 91% of the junk news sites on the watch list, and accounted for 58% of junk news traffic in the sample.
Oh, Oxford.......what do they know /s
Everything is a lie to them. It is all fake news, full of lies, biased etc. I have seen some people quote from Russian state news outlets.
They believe wild theories all the while cannot see what is right in front of them.
Even when trump is caught in a lie, they turn a blind eye. Then fall back on, well, it is better than the alternative.
The saddest part is they continue the lie that the left has moved to far left when in actuality they have made so many right turns that they are going in circles.
They have gotten to the point where they believe government is bad and should be dismantled. Hell they even believe that medicare is bad, medicaid is bad, social security is bad, anything that helps people, any social safety nets should be gone. They believe these things even if it is detrimental to themselves.
I agree with the 'opinion piece' as there is no reasoning with them, some have fallen so far down the rabbit hole they could not smell a carrot dangling one hundred feet above them.
These adults?
You know the really sad part is he is not even a very good pathological liar. He can't remember his lies from one minute to the next
True. Did you notice that everything he does is always, "the greatest, biggest, best ever in the history of everything!!!"? Trump must be a contortionist because he kisses his own ass more than anyone "ever in the history of everything!!!!".
The SOTU article, I said before it was over that I would bet that trump would say it was the [insert comment here] ever in history... And sure as shit, two days later trump was saying that his SOTU speech was the most watched ever and the best ever in history... Of course it was fact checked and what a shock....he lied again.
You're fine.
Ooo my word, how exciting to have something proven definitively - scientists around the world must be rejoicing, shouting YAY! GO OXFORD! or they could be bemoaning that this is called research (?)
"not subjective reporting, but fact" with "proved definitively" tossed in for maximum impact ... should be key words that this article is not definite proof even though a study of Facebook and Twitter by Oxford as reported through the Daily Banter says it is.
I am definitely confident that I can be proven definitively correct in my subjective opinion!
P.s .... glad I voted "None of the above" in 2016!
Hey, who isn't, but 'proven' could prove to be a tad more subjective.
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Have you ever noticed how Trump supporters, will fight to the end, even when overwhelming irrefutable evidence is presented before them ?
I know you have. You stated as much two days ago.
Guess you will have to refresh my memory - I usually try and avoid making a comments that denigrate one side or the other - but am not always successful...
As adults we are cynical (disparaging others motives) and see something like a parade as a waste of money .. an ego booster for the dictator etc etc...
I have nothing but pride in and respect for our men and women in uniform - yet there is nothing that 'is not' political regarding what countries and why our troops are being sent .. sent into harms way with their hand tied by politics. That is the part of the US military 'parade' I do not like.
It is not my intent to offend anyone with my opinion .. just expressing my thoughts.
Ooo, I do recall the comment I made - just did not think that I was singling out Trump supporters .. if anything I was 'attempting to' point out how both sides double down on what fits their narrative........ while expressing my admiration for the US military as well as the men and women that make the military the force that it is ... However, I do not support all the political posturing that sends our troops into harms way - and then ties their hands behind their back...
That is why I added that it was not my intent to offend anyone ... I was just giving my version of what I see happening...
I know,
and the way I read it, as well as at least 6 others, was you believe a parade would be playing more politics with our Armed Services.
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Now, i'll take it far further. This minuscule minded mental deficient without a coefficient, is again in need of one of his pep rally's, but this one featuring the MUTHER of all Fire Works Displays.
Trump is mentally incompetent, and any THINKING individual realizes this
irregardless of ambiguity just my humble bumble opine
Yes, I see a military parade at this time as politically motivated (I feel 'our' troops are subjected to enough political theatre during their time in service) ................. but a military parade does not have to be seen as a ego boost for the 'leader' .. I think lil peeps would love to see such a spectacle .. some individuals I talked with yesterday feel that a parade could be seen as a celebration of the men and women in uniform, past and present - so it becomes a 'to each their own' moment.
I cannot be the judge of another individuals mental state / health / or incompetence - for fear of hexing my own competency in the future ... one never knows!
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Sorry for going so far off topic Trout Giggles...
I don't get the impression that the study is making a blanket statement. I think it's just stating the obvious; that most trump supporters will literally believe everything trump says no matter what it is. Like trump saying all left wing media is fake news, which it clearly isn't. Like all media outlets, the reporting may be off the mark, but fake? No. Not even fox news posts fake news, but they have been known to be pretty inaccurate, (the seth rich story is a prime example, which they did retract). I have asked several times for anyone to post any fake news story by CNN and no one can. Inaccurate from time to time? Sure, all media outlets are, and they do post corrections but fake? No.
Also, all media outlets lean one way or the other. A little bit of a lean like fox news or MSNBC, to a lot of lean like dailykos or the federalist or infowars, (just examples mind you). There really are no truly unbiased news outlets anymore, and the few that come close are so small and underfunded they are really hard to find.
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In the end, I think we have all come to the realization that, "fake news" is anything that trump doesn't like or makes him look bad, the facts be damned. Sadly, there are those that literally believe that if trump says something is fake news, it really IS fake news, which it never is. We have almost literally, the wealth of human knowledge in our cell phones. When trump tells a lie, it takes less than a minute to look it up and fact check it yet his supporters STILL buy his BS? I think that's what this study is finding; that trump supporters will believe anything trump says, no matter how stupid.
Thank you for the very accurate summary of the seed.
My pleasure TG! I am here until Tuesday, tip your waitress, try the fish...er, trout...
id have to contest your point that Fox "news" doesn't push fake news (as do some others on both sides)
other than that, I'd agree with Brooke, nicely stated
It would appear that I should have added [being a wee bit facetious] at the end of my original comment --
I get what the seed is 'trying' of state - the science behind the "proved definitively" is bunk in my opinion. I do not care about media bias, it is a fact of life - that is why I read every source I can find on a subject in order to try and form a informed opinion .. not always successful there - yet for the most part, it is not my intention to attack a source that I do not agree with, as most media outlets provide very lil fact in their opinion based reporting - which is my opinion of course!
Hope all is well with you Mr Frost - take care of you!
But, but it's from Oxford University................
Ummm, yeah and? : ) their time would be better spent "definitively proving" what happened with the Brexit vote [smirk]
That's what we should ALL do. Sadly, there are people on both the right AND left that don't want to do that because it doesn't fit an agenda.
Good to see ya around, hope all is well with you and yours.
I'm fairly certain it would be a hoot.
Similarly older white population reacting to ultra conservative worries about the future "colour" of England
with the overriding distaste of the French and pretty much anything or anyone from mainland Europe.
It could be a best seller.
Doing well Mr Frost .. thanks for asking.
Perhaps if it hits the New York's best sellers list ... some American's will read and learn from others seemingly serious life altering mistakes? Ooops, seems 'we' may already be writing the next mistake based best seller...
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One must never stop dreaming Split Personality! My Dragon tells me that all the time..... : )
I believe this is because of Trump supporters deficient olfactory organs. They have no ability to check media content with the "sniff test" because they are so used to the smell of manure. The rest of us can easily sense an Infowars or Breitbart bullshit opinion, but to Trump supporters, all they smell are roses...
Could be Dismayed - yet it cannot be "proved definitively" : )
Just Fucking TERRIFYING !
Right now, we are in the midst of a very serious crisis. When one relies on ANY of the media for Truth and the rules of evidence these days......well.... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE !
"WE" get none of that !
Brexit, Brexit, Brexit.
Since this is a biased Study (Very Evident), I would have to conclude......"THIS IS A BIASED PIECE OF....... "REPORTING ?" ........ AGAIN !"
I heard that MSNBC got their hands on a Trump Tax return. it was kind of a Debby Downer though.
I Believe......I Believe......I....... Believe ?
You WILL Believe.....You WILL Believe.....You WILL.......
One of Us.....One of Us....One of Us.....
Curious. Is it biased because it really is, or is it biased because the findings fly in the face of your agenda?
Not one of Will Smith's best movies, but it was ok. 6/10 stars.
Is it.....MY agenda your worried about ?
REALLY ?
I don't make my living reporting......STUFF !
"One of Us.....One of Us....One of Us"
"Big Bang Theory" !
Just call me "Dell Spooner".
put a forkin fork in it
you'll carry that water till it evaporates.
problem for you,
is you haven't figured out yet , jjust how long it takes for
ice to evaporate
It's nice to see one being honest, in a Liberal way, and admitting they don't know who "Dell Spooner" is.
it is easy to find any worthless study to support ones bias when one is looking hard enough.
Heck.....you don't have to look HARD at all.
It's easy to bash a study and call it worthless to support one's bias when one is intellectually dishonest.
Do you have anything to countermand this study? I would like to see it
I think we both know the answer to that one.
Skirting the CoC [ph]
Skirting the CoC [ph]
Time was when polls and studies were done to reflect the opinion of people. Seems now, they are all to FORM opinion.
Skirting the CoC [ph]
How delusional are most trump supporters? Two words for you...
"Alternative Facts".
5 words:
"You can keep your Doctor" !
Both of us could probably go on for quite some time.
How about one word:
"Armageddon" !
Maybe 2 words would be better :
"Shovel Ready" !
I think we have a media problem.....PERIOD !
Every person I know of that used or is using the ACA kept their own doctor.
Pretty apt word for any republican president. Except GHWB, the last of the true republicans.
Two more? "Recession over".
1 ?
Are all your friends in "Need" of Government help ?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt....... maybe 2 ?
22, to be honest.
LOL No, not even close.
If that's what you need to tell yourself, go for it.
The reality is that the people that DID have to change doctors are people with doctors who refused to honor the ACA. So blame those doctors, not the ACA itself.
So you have 22 Friends, claim "You had Friends" that didn't loose their Doctors, but won't say how many of the 22 ?
Did ANY of you "Friends" actually go on ObamaScare ? You can be "Honest". I Like "Honest" !
We are talking about "Honesty" in Media afterall, although this article "MAKES" it seem like it's ONLY a one sided affair.
You don't want to be part of an "Affair"....do you ? That would be so "Robotic".
I am not going to get into a circular debate with you. I have much more than 22 friends. 22 people I know use the ACA because they like it, and no they are not poor. Now, move along.
Now it's.....MUCH MORE ?.....after you told me a specific number.
Like the "Media" and THIS study.....should I believe you now too....just because ?
No one has more than 2 or 3 "Actual" Friends. Acquaintances....sure.....but "Friends"......no way !
"22 people I know use the ACA because they like it, and no they are not poor."
So ALL your so-called friends just can't make it like the majority of Americans do ?
I'd call that "Poor".
22 people I know use the ACA. Is English not your primary language? Your posts remind me of Keethy on NV.
The majority of Trump supporters didn't have any health insurance before the ACA which is why they were so pissed off when they were forced to buy some or pay a penalty. That means most of them didn't even have a doctor to keep, they just love repeating the Obama line that they believe is their "gotcha" moment. They were claiming individual freedom where no one should be forced to buy insurance or pay for something they don't want. Problem is, every damn one of them without insurance was unknowingly relying on the EMTALA (Emergency Medical and Labor Treatment Act) which requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to anyone seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. So basically they had been costing the federal government billions because they chose not to pay for insurance but still expected to be treated by hospitals if they had an emergency.
"22 people I know use the ACA."
Your Words:
"I have much more than 22 friends."
Jesus H. Christ. Let me use smaller words. 22 of the more than 22 friends that I have, use the ACA. Is that simple enough or do I have to use MS paint and draw you a picture? I have MORE THAN 22 friends, 22 of THOSE FRIENDS use the ACA.
Or I can explain it another way. Lets say I have 700 friends, and 22 of those 700 people use the ACA. NOW does it make sense? Or do I need to break it down into percentages with pie charts and pretty colors? And with that? IMPASSE. Enough of your troll like comments. Life is too short to try and explain basic English to you. Also, mods? This is one of the reasons we need an IGNORE feature.
I can only go by your OWN words. I don't do the guess or "Read between the lines" thingy.
Because you changed it, isn't my Issue !
For the SECOND TIME!!!!
IMPASSE.
You need a hug
i'll take one
can you slip on that Blue Dress...
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What exactly IS your point?
Smooth Fish, real smooth
did your wife knock you up or something...?
He said "Every person I know of that used or is using the ACA kept their own doctor."
You falsely claimed that those were all the people Mr. Frost knew.
"Are all your friends in "Need" of Government help ?"
He then clarified for the benefit of those with poor reading comprehension. "22, to be honest." and "LOL No, not even close."
You again apparently misread his statement as you claimed "So you have 22 Friends" which isn't what he said at all.
He again attempts to clarify for the benefit of those with poor reading skills, "22 people I know use the ACA because they like it". Notice he isn't saying "I only know 22 people and they all use the ACA". No, he's saying he knows of 22 people who use the ACA because they like it. It's a pretty easy statement to follow.
You then misrepresent his statement again quoting him "I have much more than 22 friends." then misunderstanding the statement saying "Now it's.....MUCH MORE ?.....after you told me a specific number." since he never once stated that he only has 22 friends.
You then try and make your point but can't even understand your own comment when you said:
"22 people I know use the ACA."
Your Words:
"I have much more than 22 friends."
Those are not contradictory statements as you imply. I myself have far more than 22 friends, 22 would only cover my immediate family, yet I only know for sure that around 15 of my friends (those I've discussed the ACA with) use it and like it. So it would be true for me to say "15 people I know use the ACA" which in no way is stating "I only know 15 people". Is it making sense yet or is this simple example still too hard to grasp?
It's Me plays these word games to frustrate and irritate people. Don't let him suck you in.
What "IS" the point your trying to question ?
Family is Family. Friends are Friends.
"I have much more than 22 friends."
That statement stands on it's own. I don't do "Palm Readings" to try and figure out what is "Really Meant".
What are the main ways communications go wrong?
Communication tends to go wrong because of unexamined assumptions. Both parties assume understanding was perfect and perhaps neither has asked, ‘What is going on here?’
Every form of miscommunication is exacerbated by data overload and the increasingly complex environments in which we live and work.
"I" asked....."What is going on here" ?
I received ...... "Data Overload" !
Yes, it does, and it means that he has more than 22 friends. Are you disputing this?
There is no need to read palms, just a need to have basic reading comprehension to understand that Mr. Frost has more than 22 friends and among his numerous friends, 22 of them, that he knows of, use the ACA and like it. It's not rocket science understanding such a simple premise.
As for my statement pointing out that I have more than 22 immediate family members, who I'm also friends with, doesn't in any way change the facts of Mr. Frosts statement or prove he only has 22 friends as you falsely suggest. No need to read between the lines, no need to read the tea leaves, no need to consult a crystal ball, it's a very simple claim with a very simple conclusion.
Nope.
Mr. Frost DID !
You can't call impasse and then say more.
And it is me, you can't talk anymore to a person who has declared an impasse properly.
He likes to antagonize.
"Impasse" could work if you weren't ALLOWED to comment before saying "Impasse".
The way I looked at it....it gave me a "Pass" to respond to the comment before the word "Impasse" was used.
Is their a rule (or a section) 8 to declare, or whatever
the Postman/KevinKostner/Shakespear pulled at the end to take on the Trump like leader ,
cause that's the one I want to pull on a few
TWO POSTERS ENTER ONE POSTER LEAVES
What is that thingy called hot debate or sumtin cause I wanna party with some of these cowboyz n girlz around here
a girls gotta be able to let her hair down now and then no?
like I said
ill take my chances
my bad, I thought you were speaking of Mr. 'Bob'
Is it me, or It IS ME is another fine example that further proves the correlations suggested in this study, besides, he's fun to play with. He's like a boomerang
That was not my experience Mr Frost ... there is such a thing as out of network - I lost my neurologist due to the coverage network .. seeing him was not covered under any of the Silver plans. I temporarily lost my primary caregiver due to networks as well (the clinic was in my plan network, but not my doctor) .. I had to change plans at the end of the year in order to utilize plan deductibles when seeing her. I gave up on the exchange, the plans changed to much - in order to keep the same 'affordable' premium price, one had to go back to the exchange each year .. I do not know if those receiving subsidies ran into the same issue.
.. I pay a lil more by going direct to the insurance company, but I have dental coverage now - so it balances out.
P.s... how does a Doctor refuse to honor ACA - it is the law of the land, did they refuse to take insurance from the insurance companies that one can find on the exchange? ... I am confused, even going direct I am having to get the coverage that the ACA requires.
Excellent question. The same way some people refused to use the ACA. They just don't use it or honor it/sign up for it.
And why do they appear so clueless? They attack all that does not fit their story time as fake news and as faux reporting model shows they simply lie by omission. If a story does not make the supreme leader look good it doesn't see the light of day and the lemmings happily continue on.
How many trumps does it take to change a light bulb?
None, trump just says the light bulb isn't burnt out and his supporters sit happily in darkness.
I found a study:
I think my study is better than the article's study.
And aren't you glad that you woke up this morning with the ability to think.
huh...
well sure, aren't you?
*giggles*
She was right too. I find it laughable that the right complains about "salty" language every time they need something new to cry about. I am sure that no one, ever, on the right has ever said "fuck". Any other straw man arguments you want to throw out there?
It is funny to hear one conservative bitch about the salty language liberals use when there are more conservatives here with the salty tongues than liberals
And I would add that Hilary Clinton is a rich bitch who took the consolation prize of the SoS position and couldn't buy the position she was "entitled" to.
thanks for supporting the study
She couldn't even get the Russians to shove her over the "entitlement" finish line after she, Bill, Obama, and the DNC paid them millions.
Hillary Clinton is not the topic of this seed
Change apple to cherry and bake it in a pie and we'll talk
How come you left out so many either now removed, or still currently in this administration ?
Rex Tillerson Secretary of State on Trump "He's a Fucken Idiot"
What did Bannon say, something like a comparison between Trump and a Fourth Grader.
How about the Speaker of the House Eddie Munster dude Ryan, 'that was a textbook definition of racism' on Trumps comments on a Judge with Mexican Heritage.
Just a few off the top of my head.
Exactly, what and how does your list, have to do in explaining the findings in THIS study, besides examplifying SQUIRREL!
The study was filled with data forming correlations that Trump Lackeys can't seem to repudiate, thus their need to shove fingers
in ears and start mumbling and squirmbaling around
just another silly observation on my part I suppose
Excellent seed. (I read through it and the Comments yesterday... but it was locked (and seeing the Comments, I understand why!)
The content is thoughtful and convincing... and the Comment-stream is a fabulous confirmation of the seed's content! If you did this on purpose, you are a genius!
This is very useful, just before the upcoming CoC discussion.
LOL! I didn't think it would really get any attention.
I can do some PR for you.
Sometimes that's good, other times, not so much.
but,
at least it is rarely your average hum drum debate/argument.
Unless, I'm actually commenting.
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I still have yet to find one that can explain, after knowing Trump clearly lied through his teeth(pick one out of over a thousand), how they can 'chose' to stand by and defend him, over and over, as he just CANNOT STOP LYING
I really would like to know how one can be true to thyself, and remain entrenched in the Trump camp, cause, imho, they're both lying to themselves, and everyone else
I know I'm baffled
edit: They keep supporting him to save face. A die hard trumper isn't going to stop defending this man even if he really does gun down somebody on Broadway. They know he's a POS but they got to keep up appearances. So they pretend to believe his lies because the real truth is just too awful for them
I hate to tell ya fish but, George lied, he didn't cut down that cherry tree, it was Martha.
Sadly, I must agree this is definitely the case for some, but I believe it is a combination of things, some of which have been laid out along the seed, that contribute to Trump supporters blind allegiance to the insecure frail little big ego that never seizes the high road, or ceases to desist, or amaze .
Just think of it this way, at least ya know all presidents are human.
can you elaborate ?
For myself I found this to be the case right from jump street, it has certainly become more rabid of late. Once the Kool Aid has been partaken of, there is no turning back.
Defies all logic.
This seed is the perfect example of how gullible left wingers are and how easily they are manipulated because they can't think for themselves. This story, itself, is the perfect example of the left wingers sharing fake news that reinforces their prejudices.
This "study" is a joke, with the researchers deciding the outcome by how they categorized news. Essentially source that leaned right was defined as "junk" from nationalreview to drudgereport, to dailycaller. Even Rasmussen reports, arguably the most accurate pollster in 2016, was categorized as "junk." As an example, the study chartherizes a poll from the day before the election showing Tump and CLinton within the margin of error the day before the election. Apparently, "real news" were polls that showed Clinton up 6.
While the study includes pretty much every source that skews right, it omits dailykos or Huffpo and similarity biased left wing sites. The inherently biased selection means the results were rigged and the opposite result could easily be obtained by including left wing sites with a long history of misleading it's readers, like dailykos or huffpo etc..
Are the people who buy into this so dumb that they expect that liberals and conservatives would share conservative media at the rate? Because all this "study" shows is that conservatives share conservative media more than liberals do.
Rasmussen never recovered from predicting Romney in a landslide elector vote 315 to 223, 11/05/2012..........
Now THAT's a "joke".
What's a joke is conflating an opinion piece by a pundit with actual polling.
OK, you're right. It was op-ed from Rasmussen's website.
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WTF was I thinking quoting Michael Barone, a frequent Fox News contributor?
Michael Barone is senior political analyst for the Washington Examiner and is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He is the principal co-author of The Almanac of American Politics.
Read more at:
I'm sure that's why The Banter's Facebook photo is this:
nope...no bias there
So I spend a lot of time reading these threads and it always amazes me how no one looks at the actual research, and not the news source reporting it.
Please find below the actual comprehensive list (and reasons why they were included) of what the Oxford study found.:
6. Junk News Classification These sources deliberately publish misleading, deceptive or incorrect information purporting to be real news about politics, economics or culture. This content includes various forms of propaganda and ideologically extreme, hyper-partisan, or conspiratorial news and information. For a source to be labelled as junk news at least three of the following five characteristics must apply: • Professionalism: These outlets do not employ the standards and best practices of professional journalism. They refrain from providing clear information about real authors, editors, publishers and owners. They lack transparency, accountability, and do not publish corrections on debunked information.
• Style: These outlets use emotionally driven language with emotive expressions, hyperbole, ad hominem attacks, misleading headlines, excessive capitalization, unsafe generalizations and fallacies, moving images, graphic pictures and mobilizing memes.
• Credibility: These outlets rely on false information and conspiracy theories, which they often employ strategically. They report without consulting multiple sources and do not employ fact-checking methods. Their sources are often untrustworthy and their standards of news production lack credibility.
• Bias: Reporting in these outlets is highly biased and ideologically skewed, which is otherwise described as hyper-partisan reporting. These outlets frequently present opinion and commentary essays as news.
• Counterfeit: These outlets mimic professional news media. They counterfeit fonts, branding and stylistic content strategies. Commentary and junk content is stylistically disguised as news, with references to news agencies, and credible sources, and headlines written in a news tone, with bylines, date, time and location stamps.
Please find full listing here:
thank you for the analysis, Perrie.
I don't know, it's sort of a toss up,
jump ball, between Perrie's and Bad Fishes analysissy's
i'll have to ponder on this a while longer and get back to y'all
gee...it is the article seeded written by the news source. All liberals do is attack and attempt to discredit any conservative source for it's slanted opinions. All of a sudden that is off limits for this article.
It is an opinion piece from a left wing source.
The title alone is worthy of National Enquirer.
How can anyone take it serious?
This is the garbage the left wings spews on a daily basis....no wonder they are screaming at the sky.
Who is the party of RESISTANCE....the angry party, the crazies who scream at the sky and filled with delusions that Russia has invaded our nation?
They have taken the playbook of McCarthysim to a grand level.
Did you not read it all?
The study targeted specific sites. They made up their own list of sites to skew the results.