The Cost Of Being A Whore For The NRA.......More Of America's Most Treasured Lost
Eighteen school shootings in the last 45 days in the United States of America. Let's compare that to the 18 school shootings that have occurred throughout the world in the last 20 years {7300 days}. That translates to one school shooting every 2 and 1/2 days in this country versus 1 school shooting every 405 every place else in the world. And what is the major difference between the United States and the rest of the world? Yes, we are a densely populated, first world country. But that fact should lower our violence rates. Yes, we have pockets of extreme poverty. But school shootings do not follow the pattern of predominance in poverty stricken schools. In fact, the worst school disasters occurred in affluent, suburban schools. Yes, we have angry, disaffected young people in this nation. But every nation has young people who are equally or more disaffected and they do not take their hostilities out on their fellow youth.
So what is different in the United States? What is the lit stick of dynamite that has set off one of the most violent killing sprees in the history of this nation. Plain and simple....it is the National Rifle Association and their vise grip on those who legislate throughout and states and our national government. They are a political lobby that has become the enemy of life on the grandest scale imaginable. They fight, and manage to win every battle to even make a dent in the problem of a wild west society gone wild. Today in Florida is just one more nail in the national coffin that the NRA has dug for this nation.
There are a few points that must be made as this opinion is being written. Most gun owners and users are responsible, honest, conscientious users of their weapons under the second amendment. No one.....I repeat.....No one wants to take guns away from those people. Second, the second amendment of the constitution is not absolute, regardless of what the gun lobby wants the American people to think. While there is a constitutional right to bear arms, local, state, and federal authorities can abridge and limit those rights when it is in the interests of society. Every SCOTUS decision has affirmed that viewpoint. Third, the argument that there are enough gun laws on the books and all we have to do is enforce them is both specious and disingenuous. Gun laws in this nation are notoriously weak and even those on the books are rarely fully enforced. The greater problem that we face is the effort that the NRA and their allied groups are making to weaken or eliminate gun laws in states where they hold less than absolute sway. The primary example of this is the law being heavily pushed by the NRA in congress currently that would make a permit to concealed carry that is legal in any state legal everywhere in the United States, even if the state or municipality have laws banning concealed carry.
Every time there is a mass casualty event, we hear the plaintive, soul searching admonitions from our politicians offering empty condolences to the families of the deceased and injured and the promise that something would be done. The politicians take their turns on the talk shows. Liberal heads call for real gun reform. Conservative heads say that this is not the time to talk about the Dissue, but that the problem isn't bad guys with guns, but not enough good guys with guns. These days everyone likes to talk about having to improve our mental health system. DUH? No human being who is mentally healthy walks into a school with an AR-15, an unspecified number of cartridges, and proceeds to kill 17 and wound 14. Of course he is mentally ill. Within a week our national attention deficit disorder kicks in and we move on to our next crisis and the slaughter is forgotten until the next slaughter appears on the radar. If it is a major event such as Connecticut, Virginia Tech, Las Vegas, or Parkland, it stays in the forefront a few days longer than some others, but even those eventually shrink into the woodwork.
Let's be honest. We are not going to prevent all murders, or for that matter, all mass casualty events. A dedicated shooter will find a way. But.....we must stop being accomplices to the destruction. There are people who should not have guns. Much of that can be determined through effective background checks. Individuals with histories of violent criminal actions, spousal or child abuse, significant social and / or emotional maladjustment, or individuals who are on terrorist watch lists or no fly lists should not have access to guns in any jurisdiction. Yes, guns can continue to be sold illegally, but the statistics show that the deaths in mass casualty events are generally done with legally bought firearms. The great majority of gun owners and non-owners alike see effective background checks as not being a violation of civil rights or an infringement on the right to bear arms. It is only in the minds of the NRA and their most radical supporters that this rises to outrage. My apologies, but 300 mass shootings + every year is a much greater outrage.
We do not need more guns in this country. We need less. We don't need semi-automatics that can be converted to fully automatic with a simple kit. We don't need mass load cartridge clips that can be reloaded quickly and allow a spree to continue. These are not hunting and recreational weapons. These are weapons of war. We hear the NRA say every gun falls under the second amendment. Again not true. During the 1920s and 1930s, American criminal organizations were the people who were armed with automatic weapons. They were outlawed. They disappeared for decades.
Every other country has figured this out except us. How many more children are going to die because the NRA is going to continue to give us the same tired and hackneyed arguments against any sensible gun legislation? How long are we, as the American people going to continue to place our children on the altar of physical sacrifice to assuage the blood lust that is the NRA. Unless we stand up as a civilization and elect politicians who will work to truly make this nation safe for our children and adults once more, we have done more damage to the marvelous documents and beliefs that have made us the greatest nation in the world.
As long as the NRA continues it's false bullshit agenda that ANY kind of modification to enact possibly some more common sense gun rules, equates to taking everyone's' guns away, we will have no agenda to even ever address an oh so obvious flaw, when we let what is decided to be true, by ones who have already decided that false is the new truth, not the same as the old truth
'don't get fooled again' and ' again'
Kind of strange that over 350 million citizens are held hostage by 4.5 million NRA members. Perhaps the politicians cannot do simple math.
While I am not against the ownership of reasonable weaponry, I am against making them readily available to any Tom, Dick or Harry. It is more difficult for me to board a plane than it is to acquire a gun, go figure.
Hyperbole is what the NRA indulges in, that they account for so little of the population is a fact.
The NRA is not killing anyone. Criminals are, and that includes common criminals, the criminally insane, the purely evil, and all kinds of groups and gangs...everything from organized crime to the drug cartels to the Russian and other mafia's and MS-13. And then there is the issue of terrorists of all types. You can bitch about the NRA all day, but they are not responsible for the authorities not writing yet more useless gun laws.
And there lies the fatal flaw in the entire pro-NRA argument. They are all too willing to support useless, toothless bills that are both unenforceable and ineffective. Then they turn around and buy off any legislator who might either introduce or support any bill with teeth. The NRA will only support that which makes millions for the gun and ammunition makers. Life means nothing if it interferes with the almighty dollar.
Name one. Put your money where your mouth is "Doctor". Name a toothless bill that supports the coffers of the gun manufacturers.
You're totally wrong of course. The NRA has nothing to do with the manufacture and sale of guns. You anti-gunners are all too willing to support useless, toothless bills that are both unenforceable and ineffective.
all I read was useless and toothless, and Trump supporters sprung into my head
How about allowing the ban on semi automatic and automatic to expire, so the gun manufacturers can sell more AR 15 type weapons , when the only reason these weapons are needed are to inflict mass casualties and enrich the gun manufacturers. Come back with serious discussion when the pro NRA people agree with the facts that almost every mass casualty event starts with an AR15 type weapon and these should be restricted. Otherwise,the entire group of gun "enthusiasts" are doing nothing more than blowing shit out of their mouths.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Crickets.
The NRA taught me how to shoot safely when I was just a cub scout.
I was a member of the NRA for years.
The NRA changed to be a shill for manufacturers and I am no longer a member.
It seems the NRA also trained Cruz to kill children efficiently.
The NRA trained Cruz ?
I'm sure you know that the JROTC shooting competitions used a CO2 gun (Pellet gun), but better to make it sound like the NRA personally trained Cruz like DAESH camps train their murdering holes. Sensationalizes your agenda.
Good point - it does sound quite a bit like that. I guess the only real difference is that the NRA also acts as the lobbying arm for the US gun industry and thus has a strong interest in creating new customers for those guns, while DAESH has no such lobbying interest. I also suspect DAESH monitors bullet usage much more closely than the NRA does.
The word " STUPID FUCK" doesn't even come close to describing your comment.
Maybe if the NRA trained the DAESH fighters they'd be able to kill kids more efficiently too?
Trump has just tweeted the best way to stop the needless slaughter of more and more of our own children in that crazy(safe) school setting
would be to obviously build that fckn wall to keep all of those red headed Latino's from coming here and declaring war on our own children, and that Porn Stars should garner more respect and pu$$y grabbing capabilities if we are ever going to face this issue head on, but only after he releases the Democratic version of a Leak Nunes took while pissing of thinking individuals , as well as pre-posting the release of his tax returns while appointing himself thenot beneficiary of all those Billions he is owed by the IRS for filing his requests to be audited, early and often, to assure he is paying his fair share of the burden required when disqualifying any and all facts about any and all facts as to when said facts could not be heard , by the herd, over the gunshots...
This just in, Trump endorses the sale of very high decibel silencers, in so as schools won't be so inconvenienced, by the Bang, Rat A Tat tat never ending gun violence, and those annoying noises associated with scholastic firing of and any peoples n/or against our children, who are having difficulty hearing the lessons, over the non-silenced voices of kids deemed unable to be responsible consumers of alcohol just quite yet, but should be definitely responsible enough to legally purchase an assault weapon at the oh so stable teenaged age of 18, cause it could KILL children if we were ever to execute such draconian enforcement of the asinine fairy tail that children would/could possibly need to grow up and prove they are responsible young adults
of course, this has also given TRumpp grounds to terminate the Mueller investigation, due to his rapid fire leaking and interrogation questioning tactics ,
Tic Tactics to stem his Vietnam personal Hell, overtly due to his being involved in petaling that which arose, and was released via his Tulips while tippy towing
Oh yea, I own and enjoy firearms but WTF does it take...
This silly comment is a prime example of why no one takes you seriously. Blather away if it makes you feel better
Reading this it sounds like I need to do more to support the NRA as they are doing the most to represent my views on gun ownership.
Yep, make sure even the mentally ill have the ability to slaughter people by the dozen because it puts those $s in the hands of their real constituents.
Yes, by all means help them to help the mass murderers get these weapons, as if they weren't doing a great job of that already.
It pays mostly republiscum politicians to do everything they can to stop even the most basic ways to keep these guns out of the hands of people like the Parkland killer.
Once "Those" folks are elected into office after they dupe Their folks with their "Concerns"....It isn't Important !
Even when they are "GIVEN" triple what they say they wanted.
"Dreamers" beware.....Liberals aren't for you.
Hear that? ..... only crickets chirping.
Like usual, nothing of value to add. Just the usual partisan bitches and whines.
False equivalent.
Drunken gun owner would be a better analogy.
A motor vehicle, while potentially a danger under particular circumstances, is not a vehicle intended for destructive purposes. And while I have no issue with the homeowner who keeps a firearm to protect his family and property, I have big issues with firearms that have literally overkill functionality.
That some gun culture folks want to play semantics regarding the killing efficiency of certain weapons, any weapon that can kill dozens of human beings in seconds should not be in the hands of a citizen.
And spare me the militia/patriot stuff, if a real, hostile military force comes down your street, you aren’t going to be the defenders of America.
When gun owners speak irrationally and grandiosely as some of you do, it’s a major reason as to why you are criticized and disrespected.
Hunt, target shoot and protect your homes ... I support you, but don’t defend the indefensible with convenient misrepresentations of the Constitution.
That you could make an assumption like that shows how little you know about a major portion or our society. I know many people who WOULD be out there if circumstances required such action. So save the misguided presumption that it wouldn’t happen for someone who doesn’t know better.
And I’m not one who thinks it will ever come to that and it certainly isn’t a significant reason I would own a weapon but I do take umbrage to any assertion that it wouldn’t happen if needed. Because I know it would.
You would need to be on point, for the topic at hand, to make those accusations. But since you are not on point, you can not. Not rationally anyway.
I don't doubt you know "many" such people … and, that the delusional WACO and Ruby Ridge mentality is out there; you are the misguided ones, not potential Warsaw Ghetto "warriors," rather, ordinary, but irrationally self-ascribed victim-civilians, comrades sharing a vice and ideology that, in your minds, relieve you of responsibility for your actions, before yourselves, before God and before your consciences. Those comrades give one another absolution for everything, provided they all do what the other comrades do.
The veiled and not-so-veiled threats you drop, are predicated on the false bravado provided by the possession of firearms and whipped into delusion via orchestrated and directed scapegoating of an "enemy" comprised of all the "others" whom are deemed to be, like the "Jewish Problem" of the Third Reich, the same problem-construct under a Trump-Spencer-Miller et al mantle.
Those who look the other way to add comfort and influence to hostile, foreign tyrants in order to protect the dream of a haters-Fantasyland, would, in their poisoned minds, prior to being de facto enslaved by such tyrants and their puppet-proxies, naively and insidiously prefer a white master to brown brother.
And do spare me the Godwin's Law "rebuttal" as Godwin's corollary to his own law states essentially, that sometimes, "the shoe fits."
I also know many that would, sadly they would be dead in short order. Local's with AR15 are not going to deter a trained military force.
Seems like I have to keep reminding you and those like you what your own beloved St Scalia had to say about your constitutional rights, specifically that precious second amendment. The following is a portion of his majority opinion in Heller v DC:
I don't think the points are very obscure. Was Parkland's experience this week "obscure" to you? Were the 26 slaughtered just 3 months ago in Sutherland Springs TX somehow "obscure?" Is this what you mean when you talk about reverence for life?
Spare me the sanctimonious rant. Your understanding of such things is obviously sophomoric at best and intentionally obtuse at worse.
And just so you know where you and I stand, what you know about me is precisely jack shit Mac. Therefore your comments in that regard are absolutely baseless. So save your nonsensical, thinly veiled insults and judgements for someone who is more easily impressed by vitriol of that nature. Like perhaps the usual liberal worker drone you are accustom to stroking here on NT. I’m sure they are impressed by it.
I am not. Not in the least
Not a student of history eh? Yeah, I know. Not many partisans are when it interferes in some way with the narrative they happen to be pushing at the moment,
Actually I am a student of history. You, calling anyone a partisan is really a laugh...MR. PARTISAN himself....
Commenting to you is like playing chess with a parrot. You squawk a lot, knock over the pieces, shit on the board and declare yourself the winner...
Have a great day Polly.
And that boys and girls, is how one rebuts when he can’t viably address content with counter points; but the ad hominem does provide us some insight to that jack shit.
What one posts provides a window into the one who posts it; it is not necessary to know one personally in order to know his level of acuity and temperament at a given moment in heated debate.
However many would-be murders would not take place because a law or some other deterrent stopped a potential killer for whatever reason ... are lives spared; the implied or stated notion that any particular law would have its violators is not a reason to reject the existence of that law — what is done in an imperfect world to move in the direction of “a more perfect union” — is how civilized humanity deals with reality.
One would have to have viable points before another could respond in kind Mac but since when it comes to me you have made no viable points, you get the response you deserve.
But i do agree with your assessment on how posts here do tend to be windows to a posters soul and trust me i do see yours hiding behind that camera and pictures. Yours is clearly not as nicely tempered, informed and unbiased as you try to project here. Lest you would not feel the need to attempt to insult that which you barely understand.
First, the comment is a deflection.
Second, the comment is FALSE
Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes
JAN. 26, 2017
A central point of an executive order President Trump signed on Wednesday — and a mainstay of his campaign speeches — is the view that undocumented immigrants pose a threat to public safety.
But several studies , over many years, have concluded that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States. And experts say the available evidence does not support the idea that undocumented immigrants commit a disproportionate share of crime.
“There’s no way I can mess with the numbers to get a different conclusion,” said Alex Nowrasteh, immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, which advocates more liberal immigration laws.
Mr. Trump often cites specific cases of undocumented immigrants committing or being charged with crimes, like the 2015 killing in San Francisco of Kathryn Steinle , whose accused killer had repeatedly been convicted of crimes and deported, yet slipped back into the United States.
His executive order states that many people who enter the country illegally “present a significant threat to national security and public safety.” It directs the Department of Homeland Security to publish a weekly “comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens and any jurisdiction that ignored or otherwise failed to honor any detainers with respect to such aliens.”
What makes Trump a dangerous President, is that he knows he can count on every ignorant hater to suck up his bigoted, xenophobic bullshit!
Everything he and his hateful followers don't care to know gets the "fake news" attribution … this is how Hitler got his followers to do what you and others like you do.
Example…
When you repeat hateful lies, you became a part of a dangerous, insidious political agenda; you need to at least do some homework before you put a bullseye on any group of people.
Do the right thing and cut it the fuck out!
I don't appreciate veiled threats.
Ad hominem, shoot-the-messenger, non-rebuttal. And my camera has nothing to do with this …
As i said, if you were making a viable point in the first place you might have a leg to stand on here but again since you aren't, you don't.
And since you bring it up ..... Ad Hominem is, as Ad Hominem does there Mac.
And i don't appreciate thinly veiled insults.
I guess we all have problems here eh Mac?
I don't agree with everything the NRA does or doesn't do but without them this is the sort of shit we can expect or worse.
DOJ works to restrict gun ownership of Vets without due process
Yeah, just one more piece of evidence that the Fed can not always be trusted with our Constitutional rights.
Like it or not we need organizations like the NRA.
I dully support the federal government removing all weapons but single shot weapons from the citizenry. Seems to me that would actually be right in line with the Constitution considering at the time those were the only weapons that existed. IMO aside from the 3/5s clause, the Second Amendment was the biggest mistake the founders made. Unfortunately they were not specific enough.
Well. I'll tell you just like I told Shrekk. I'll give up all my weapons except my Muzzleloader when you agree to only respond by quill and parchment, sent by a Post rider, since at the time that was the only media that existed. Deal?
LOL! Well said.
Funny, the Founders knew enough that things would change over the course of time, otherwise they would never put up an Amendment process, including the ability for the states to call for a Constitutional Convention. Also, at the time the Constitution was written rifling was starting to become widespread while muskets still were smoothbore and quite common. You really need to think about what the Second Amendment says:
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Notice, it states SECURITY OF A FREE STATE as the reason why the people should be able to keep and bear arms and that it shall not be infringed. In other words, the only correct gun control is to require everyone as per Title 10 of the US Code to carry a gun at all times.
And i dully support my constitutional right to oppose a gun grab like that. Unfortunately for you, SCOTUS agrees with my position on this.
Like we need cancer?
Well, they are here and they are not going away. So...ya got anymore bright ideas??
Like we need liberty. True liberty though, not like a fascists or authoritarians idea of liberty.
Know what i mean?
NRA = Liberty---my ass. It's a business and that business is to serve the gun industry by scaring little bitch shitbrains into buying more of them so they can pretend they're men instead of the rodents they really are.
So the NRA is your ass? Nice!
Did you get a free bowl of soup with that ass?
Again
Saw a great quote today that describes that perverted idea of "liberty:"
Had more venom to get out I see ..... there you go ..... get it all out now. Your family and loved ones can thank NT later.
Speaking of quotes, a real one that immediately comes to mind:
Well, after we found out that the military wasn't flagging people who were booted out to the civilian law enforcement agencies and one of those scumbags gunned down a church full of people in Texas someone needed to do it. Fuck due process when a shitbag gets court martialed for domestic violence and no one bothers to let police know about it. And since when did rightwingers ever give a shit about due process? They all stand up and cheer every time a unarmed black man gets gunned down by a trigger happy cop.
If you bothered to read the article you would see that wasn't what it was about but since most everything with you is a conspiracy against women, i'm not surprised in the least you try to push the narrative that way once again. SOSDD with you, but i understand ..... you gotta get that venom out somehow eh? Must be a "bitch" of problem to have. I wouldn't know.
That said, the only shitbags here are the remington raider bureaucrat pussies who would propose to take gun rights away from honorable discharged Vets without due process. Candy assed little fucks who in all likelihood have never served a greater cause than themselves a single day in their lives. Fucking pussies!
They are worthless pond scum, no, they're the stuff below pond scum that grows beneath the fish shit as the bottom of the pond. Total wastes of oxygen, just like the people who support their fucked up actions.
Really? We need even more hostile foreign entities and their millions of dollars trying to influence our elections:
NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy
And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the NRA didn't start to be the heavy-hitting lobbying force it is today until after the Civil Rights Acts of the mid-1960s were passed.
Hilarious, so you’re worried about dark money now huh? How about this dark money?
Clinton plans Trump resistance using dark money
Only pea-brained partisans don’t understand that if there is a dark money problem, it more or less starts with the Clintons now. They are the dirtiest of the dirty dark in that regard.
Republicans don't want us to figure it out, they don't want to figure it out, they just want to take the money they are given, look for ways to hide it like Citizens United and lie to themselves and forget all consequences of their actions.
Dumbing down our education system with the likes of Betsy DeVos is just the first step in dumbing down the next generation to accept every lie told to them.
Every country in the civilized world beats us in all the ways that count. they beat us on the gun issue, they beat us on the healthcare issue, they beat us on renewable energy, they beat us on family leave, they beat us on womens right to choose, they beat us on social programs.
Trump is not making us great again, he is trying to turn back the clock to his youth and all the old white geezers in the Republican party are going along and cheering him on.
Meanwhile the rest of the world is happy with finally being able to beat America out as being more advanced.
Just to keep things in perspective:
When Donald Trump Was a Democrat
It turns out you don't have to look far to find evidence that Trump wasn't always a conservative Republican.
Trump was registered as a Democrat for more than eight years in the 2000s, according to New York City voter records made public during his campaign for president in 2016.
Trump owned up to his years with the other party and told CNN he identified with Democrats during that time because they were more adept at handling the economy.
Said Trump:
Trump was a regiserted Democrat from August 2001 through September 2009
So why did the Mar-a-LagoShitbag switch? Might have had something to do with the skin color of the man who won the presidency in 2008? Mar-a-LagoShitbag is an unrepetant racist and cheeleader for nazis. Nice choice you've made./s
Presumably because only the GOP would elect a dumb bigot or be gullible enough to vote for a sociopathic con artist.
Our education system has been dumbed down by the liberals for years . Prausing children fir coming close to the right answer as long as they tried, no competition alliwed
And they only have to make approximate answers in math. Close counts in our liberally run public education.
They aren't whores, whores don't get paid, they are prostitutes. They do it for the money.
In what universe do whores not paid and please point me in that direction ......
I was thinking the same thing, where can I find these free ones?
Why should the rest of us have to worry that our kids won't come home just so you can feel like your dick is bigger?
Kids are dead because of a lunatic and you’re obsessed with my gun and my dick. No wonder we can never solve the problem.......
What's wrong with your dick??
Nothing, but I discuss that with my urologist, not my gunsmith.
The above comment is an epic fail.
How can somebody be a whore for a group that defends a Constitutional right? Does being pro free speech make one a whore for the ACLU? How about being a whore for rights like protections against illegal searches, double jeopardy or being forced to incriminates ones self?
There is no fucking constitutional right to have a personal WMD and use it to commit mass murder.
Just like there's no right to use a backpack full of propane tanks or a heavy truck to commit mass murder. Why don't we ban those too?
That good ol' humping post of the rightwing gun freak staple of the false equivalency. It usually trying to compare guns to cars but this one is just a bogus. I guess we have to say something so self-evident time and time again to them: "primary intended use." Semi-automatic rifles (and pistols) are primarily designed to kill people. They are not game hunting weapons (although, yes, we know that some superfuckheadshitbag, lazyass, worthlesscrap gun freak "hunters" actually brag about using them to hunt which makes them even more objects of ridicule than usual). Let me "say" it slowly yet again: propane.....tanks.....and.......big....trucks....are.....not....primarily.....designed,.......made......marketed.....or.......bought.......for....the...purpose.....to.......use......as.........murder.......weapons.murder.....weapons.
It scares liberals.
Addled rightwing gun freaks having access to mass murder weaponry should scare everyone.
The shooter who put Steve Scalise in the hospital was a Bernie supporters. And I'm pretty sure the cop killers in Dallas and Baton Rouge weren't right wingers.
My last note of the evening. I notice that our resident gun nut lobby hasn't posted a note of sympathy or condemnation of the insane gun culture we've spawned. No sympathy for the children or teachers. No positive suggestions as to how to improve the situation. All we see is the defense of their precious right to own and use bigger and deadlier guns that can shoot as quickly as possible because of the Holy second amendment. This has been the most vacuous discussion ever. I truly feel badly for this sorry crew.
complete bs across the board from top to bottom
we have sympathy for those who got shot but what we do not have is the stupidity to buy into your narrative.
all the left wants to hear is ban guns when the solution is easy enough. increase security at schools.
is that font big enough?
yes our kids are priceless and we should spare no expense to make those schools as safe as they need to be.
why is it the left can never get behind a common sense solution like increased school security? because that is not what they are after.
all they want is a gun ban - and they will use the death of any innocent to get it.
Brings this to mind:
Umm, Jermy I really hate to keep singling you out for ridicule but you keep asking for it with dumbshit posts like this. The US has 40x the population of Israel, so the population adjustment for those stats would work out to 320 student murders if Israel was our size. IOW, exactly the same rate as we have here. I realize numbers are a mystery to rightwingers but we do need to set them straight even if it seems unkind to do so.
And they STILL have better security for their schools.
The numbers DON'T matter. What matters is the security provided. Which in the case of the US, the security is garbage at best. But hey, they have a "Gun Free Zone" sign. I guess that's all that matters to the liberal mindset.
because protecting our rights is a bad thing? try again.
losing political power in these United States in such an epic fashion
"Eighteen school shootings in the last 45 days in the United States of America"
You got that from the "Everytown for Gun Safety" non-profit group (co-founded by Michael Bloomberg) huh.
Bernie Sanders re-tweeted it, Bill deBlasio re-tweeted it.....
So did Cher.
MSNBC, ABC,NBC,CBS, Times, BBC, Huffpost...etc.... have all reported this same meme as truth too.
Problem is, This "Non-Profit" group uses something that happened, that wasn't even school related but just near a school, as a school shooting stat .
Apparently "Everytown" likes to play "Word semantic Games" to make..... some point.
is correct. Never claimed there were people shot but this is not a meaningless stat as gunfreaks would like to make it. First of all, seven of those shootings occurred during school hours and against the backdrop of something like Parkland on Wednesday the fact that school grounds seem to attract a lot of people for gun play and that should be of concern. But, of course, gun freaks have to use any and every possible dodge to continue to ignore, dismiss and move on after these horrific mass killings.
Skirting the CoC [ph]
Whereas gun freaks just ignore or deny* facts to make their point.
*I refer to the utter scumbags who claim Sandy Hook was a hoax.
It's very simple let the people vote through their representatives. We could have a Constitutional amendment and that would be fine with me.
Would it? How generous of you. But, alas, it won't require that. We've already got multiple states with laws restricting firearms of mass destruction and we had a federal law as well that worked until it was "sunsetted."
Even St. Scalia specifically wrote in his DC v Heller opinion that the second amendment was not a pass to have any kind of weapon:
Vote, vote, vote.
If Republicans can implement an assault weapon ban that existed for years all the way through George Bush after 9/11, then by God Republicans can DO IT AGAIN!!!!
The right wing votes these Republicans in office and had NO PROBLEM with the previous assault weapon ban. None.
The right wing did not protest Bush on this issue, they had no problem with the talking points that put this ban into existence in the first place.
Bush and other Republicans put the ban in place saying that it was a clear and present danger to police and law enforcement.
That is still true and it is the reason that Republicans should never have let the ban expire.
Republicans let the ban expire hoping to "blame Obama",
Republicans are to blame and any Democrat who went along with the free pass given to a powerful lobbying group.
The NRA is not elected by the people, but they buy politicians of both parties to further an economic agenda to push policies that profit only one group of companies that manufacture weapons. None of the members of this CLUB an lobbying group care about anything but making money and spreading talking points to people that lap it up.
I thought the swamp was being drained of powerful lobbyists that influence Washington.
Do you, really, REALLY think yet another DUI law will end the slaughter of drunk drivers ? Well, yes it might save lives, depending on what it was. Say like everyone had to have a breathalyzer ignition to start their vehicles, and it was mandatory for all, well I guess it certainly wood reduce DUI death and injuries, while doing nothing, will certainly never reduce them.
See how that works, though that is one extreme, as your do nothing, is the other extreme.
Now, please do inform us what will work.