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Israeli authorities block airport ads urging women to refuse to give up seats

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  6 years ago  •  18 comments

Israeli authorities block airport ads urging women to refuse to give up seats

Israel’s airports authority has refused to display adverts informing female passengers that it is illegal for airline staff to ask them to move seats at the behest of ultra-Orthodox Jewish men.

The Israel Religious Action Center (IRAC) had planned to display the billboard ads at Ben Gurion airport, near Tel Aviv, during Passover, the Jewish holiday that ends on Saturday.

3500.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&f Israel Religious Action Center said asking women to move on grounds of gender was ‘dehumanising and illegal’.
Amir Cohen/Reuters

IRAC’s ad campaign follows a court ruling in June in favour of an 82-year-old Holocaust survivor, Renee Rabinowitz, who sued Israel’s national airline, El Al, for gender discrimination. Cabin crew had asked her to move when an ultra-Orthodox man refused to take his seat next to her.

In a case supported by IRAC, the judge ruled that “under absolutely no circumstances can a crew member ask a passenger to move from their designated seat because the adjacent passenger doesn’t want to sit next to them due to their gender”.

El Al was given 45 days to amend its policies and was ordered to pay compensation to Rabinowitz. Women travelling on the airline have been frequently asked to move seats in recent years.

IRAC’s ads, which read “Ladies, please take your seat... and keep it!”, remind passengers that requests to change seats on the grounds of gender are illegal. The organisation, which is linked to the Movement for Reform Judaism, also released a video encouraging female passengers to report any such requests.

IRAC said it had reached an agreement on the fee to display the ads when the airports authority denied permission, on the grounds that “we steer clear of any advertising that is political or divisive”.

Anat Hoffman, executive director of the organisation, said the ad campaign should not be considered controversial as it informed airline passengers of their legal rights.

She told the Guardian that asking female passengers to move on grounds of gender was “discriminatory, dehumanising and illegal”.

“Since the ruling, we believe it’s still happening. Women are still not sure whether it’s kosher or not kosher,” she said. “The dynamic is that a Haredi [ultra-Orthodox] man refuses to take his seat, then other passengers, instead of telling him to sit down, focus on the woman, saying, ‘Why don’t you just move, so the plane can take off?’”

In 2011, Israel’s high court ruled that gender segregation on buses could not be forced. “After we won that case, we still had to bring 13 lawsuits against individual drivers. We won 13 times, then the bus companies started enforcing their policies,” Hoffman said.

“If the airports authority won’t allow our billboards, we will ask them to make their own ads telling people of their policies. And if they don’t do that, we may have to sue them.”

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by Harriet Sherwood

The Guardian

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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

Fundamentalism is an affliction, in any religion...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    6 years ago

I with you on this one. I had that happen on a British Air flight and I told them no. That's OK to do on BA. 

it's an interesting topic. Most people who are not Jewish, don't realize that there are about 40 different denominations within the faith, which is akin to protestisim. Some more tolerant than others. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    6 years ago
Most people who are not Jewish, don't realize that there are about 40 different denominations within the faith

I didn't know that. I thought there was Orthodox, Conservative, and Reformed. I learned something new today

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    6 years ago

You got smarter here! :)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    6 years ago

If Israel does not free itself from Haredi control it will become a theocracy and will alienate the diaspora.  If nothing else, it is in my opinion one of the reasons why many Jews are becoming anti-Israel.

 
 
 
charger 383
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1.2.1  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    6 years ago

It does not make Israel look good

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    6 years ago

Why did the woman have to give up her seat? Why didn't the cranky old man find another seat?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    6 years ago

Trout,

It's logistics. They are forbidden to sit next to women, even their own wives. So if the seat a woman is sitting in, happens to be next to a guy, and all the other seats put the Haradi next to a woman, they will ask to you to move. 

Hey man.. not my problem. I'm not moving. 

Gay kocken offem yom. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    6 years ago
Gay kocken offem yom.

Did you just curse in Hebrew? LOL

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    6 years ago

No.. I cursed in yiddish, LOL! 

(I can whisper the translation or you can move to NY. Pick one!)

btw.. the Hardi don't speak Hebrew. They speak yiddish

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    6 years ago
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So many people in the world following nonsense rules invented by men who interpret ancient documents and, in turn, speak with perceived authority.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.3    6 years ago

There you go, Tig!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.2    6 years ago

I wasn't sure if it was Yiddish or Hebrew so I took a chance.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.2    6 years ago
whisper the translation

that one. I'm not going anywhere North at least until July

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.7  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    6 years ago

80° at the moment!  winking

 
 
 
Randy
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5  Randy    6 years ago

Israel’s airports authority has refused to display adverts informing female passengers that it is illegal for airline staff to ask them to move seats at the behest of ultra-Orthodox Jewish men.

That's that part that bugs me Why shouldn't women be told at the airport that they don;t have to give up their seats. Not all women who fly El Al are Jewish!

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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6  Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

It happens here too. 

 
 

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