Megachurch Pastor Says Trump Has God’s Approval to Start Nuclear War
Not everyone is particularly worried about nuclear war .
In fact, after one of President Donald Trump’s more recent outbursts about North Korea and “ fire and fury ,” at least one evangelical responded with open glee.
For Robert Jeffress—the pastor of 13,000 member megachurch First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, the host of the daily radio program Pathway to Victory , and a member of President Trump’s evangelical advisory board—nuclear war can’t come soon enough.
“God has given Trump authority to take Kim Jong-un,” Jeffress’ statement read in part, as he went on to say he is “heartened to see that our president…will not tolerate any threat against the American people.”
“When President Trump draws a red line, he will not erase it, move it, or back away from it,” Jeffress added . “Thank God for a president who is serious about protecting our country.”
The Washington Post notes Jeffress has long been a Trump supporter, first becoming convinced Trump would win the president election after the two shared cheeseburgers from Wendy’s in Iowa. Jeffress has repeatedly vocalized his belief God chose Trump, and has invoked that belief as a justification for a wide range of policies that could be at best described as human rights violations waiting to happen, including the proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Fortunately, not all Christians are quite as war-happy as Jeffress. In fact, there was quite an outcry on Twitter.
As Elizabeth Bruenig put it,
“ Not that any pastor in the country withholding their assent would do anything, but to lend God’s name to it is to put your soul at hazard “. Or as Thack Dyson tweeted , “The good pastor must be referring to Ares, the god of war in Greek mythology, certainly not the God of the Trinity.”
Or consider the Washington, D.C. Catholic Worker, which held a vigil in front of the White House on the 72nd anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Japan .
As activist Art Laffin said,
“Nuclear weapons are immoral, illegal, anti-God, anti-life, anti-creation, and have no right to exist.”
He went on to say that spending on nuclear weapons is “direct theft from the poor,” and added “If the U.S. is to ever truly lead the way to real disarmament, it must first repent for the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then and only then can the U.S. legitimately ask other nuclear nations to disarm.”
Since then, Trump hasn’t provoked North Korea quite as regularly, but it still seems rather more likely that he’d risk nuclear war than not.
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What would Jesus think?
Perhaps Jefferies can volunteer to lead the charge against North Korea...Oh wait, he'd rather risk someones life than his..
Oh, no...he wants trumpy to push the button. No shots fired, but billions dead. And Jesus swoops in to save the day!
I think that the proper term for him is...DUMB ASS...
Evangelical fundies want to destroy the Dome of the Rock to replace it with a New Temple so Jesus can return...
And, Trump is known as the Shitass and, Chief.
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Thumpity, thump.
If Trump and Bolton provoke a nuclear war, I'll make sure a lot of the teavangelicals in my neighborhood will need chin straps to keep their MAGA hats on.
If God is going to talk to anyone on earth why would it be a shyster minister in Texas?
Another one of those mysteries Father Bob told me about?
Did you ever notice that conservatives are convinced that they know how God feels about gender and sex, but for everything else, they just say "god works in mysterious ways".
I wonder why that is..........................s/.
It is sad that so many actually accept words from another human being to be a message relayed directly from the grandest possible entity.
I think that might not be true if those words didn't agree with their own desires.
These folks are itching for a fight, so they'll believe anyone who tells them a fight is what we need. If it's a fight that prevents them personally from needing to gear up and put their lives on the line, so much the better, as far as they're concerned.
So now it’s off topic to directly respond to a false accusation. Hitler and Stalin would be proud
Because God works in mysterious ways!
The evangelicals fantasize and dream every day of a coming apocalypse where they assume they'll be the winners, either being taken up to heaven to the gated community in the sky or stand victorious over their enemies which are anyone who refuses to accept their version of religion. To them a war with Islam and liberals is inevitable so they are eagerly awaiting the chance to murder or at least watch their God or what they believe to be God servants on earth murder their enemies. They have a blood lust only matched by the Islamic extremists they hate so much. They don't care about their fellow man, they only care about being proven right because they've been claiming Christ was going to come and murder all their enemies for centuries now. They are so desperate they are willing to hand over control of the nuclear codes to the most unhinged ignorant bigot on the planet, the monumentally incompetent King of Clowns, Donald Trump.
Sane humans shiver at the thought of such an unstable idiot with his finger on the trigger, but evangelicals are excited because they feel that brings them ever closer to their hoped for "end of times". You cannot reason with such poorly educated theocrats who only care about self-fulfilling their prophecies of doom and destruction. It's also the reason they don't give a crap about the environment, their God will take care of them so they don't have to worry about poisoning the earth for future generations, they don't believe there will be future generations because they are always predicting Armageddon is right around the corner, as it apparently has been for the last 2,000 years. Giving them any power or responsibility is like hiring a surgeon who is also the beneficiary to a billion dollar life insurance policy on you to perform invasive surgery to fix a hole in your heart. Can you really trust he'll do his best job when you know he's actually hoping you die on the operating table?
What false accusation are you referring to?
Stalin was a Catholic.
Can you conclusively prove that your god ever existed? He must exist before he can work.
Indoctrination and fear will do that to a person.
not to mention just plain delusion.
Georgian Orthodox, I guess that's about as close to Roman Catholic as you can get without recognizing the Pope as being the twitter feed of a sky fairy.
Yet 'Pastor' Jeffress has a direct line and it seems like it's no mystery to him.
ROFLMAO!
I suggest Jefferies deliver the bomb in person and set it off himself right next to it. I am sure that would prove how much god approves of his action!
That they don't deserve their tax exempt status?
Right on! Churches should pay taxes just like any other business selling their product.
Jeeze, people, it's right there in the book. Don't you read?
John 24:17 - I sayeth unto thee, the great orange baboon shall eradicate the Kim with fire and fury, the likes of which the flat Earth has never seen.
So it is written. Duh.
And so it shall be forever and forever...
One man's position directly translated to countless many faithful who adopt it as truth because they believe this (irresponsible) pastor has a direct line to the grandest possible entity.
Been that way ever since Jesus walked somethings never change.
Let's face it, this pastor isn't fit to tie Jesus's sandals.
He sounds a little like Truman.
The difference is that Truman saved lives by dropping two bombs on two citys, which ENDED a war, the pastor wants to START a war with nukes.
If Trump were actually stupid enough to launch a first strike on North Korea, of any kind even his "bloody nose idea" and it starts a war, all of the deaths and injures and blood on both sides would be on his hands and on his hands alone. It would be Trump's war and no one elses.
Wouldn't that make him a war criminal?
His tinfoil needs some adjustments.....shaking my head at this dumbass poor excuse for a human being
I expect he did get this in writing or at least sent to his tablet, but not the stone version.
God has an AOL account?
Just another example of why not to trust preachers
Meh, I'm not worried. Plenty of fresh water here. I know some mormons that have basements full of non-perishables, and thumpers burn like firewood if dried for a few weeks. Nuclear winter won't be so bad.
I want to go with the first bomb. I don't want to stick around to see what happens next
I do. I want to see the faces of the idiot evangelicals as they realize their hope for Armageddon and their attempts at self-fulfilling the prophecies in Revelation didn't actually summon Christ as they'd hoped. Watching them wander around in a post apocalypse nuclear winter wondering why God didn't save their families or whisk them away to safety will be interesting to observe. Sadly, even the disappointed theocrats will just come up with another excuse as to why Jesus didn't show up and start planning for the next apocalypse saying "This wasn't it, but soon, Jesus will come very soon, I just know it, because I've believed it since childhood, I mean, how could my parents and pastor be wrong?"...
I just couldn't stand listening to them try to explain why Jesus didn't come again this time. I would rather just be dead, because I don't want to suffer.
I feel the same way! When I was stationed at a nuclear weapons base in North Dakota we knew that we were at ground zero. That we were a target of several nuclear weapons in our area in a full exchange including at least one directly on the base and I loved the idea! I knew that if we went through the drill for real and launched our missiles that meant that Russian missiles were already on the way and we had less the ten minutes before we were going to be turned to vapor. There was no place to run or hide. It was actually comforting. We would feel nothing at all. No pain. Just disappear into nothingness.
My husband says I'm just too pessimistic. Frankly, why stick around if the bombs are falling?
You might end up glowing in the dark. Wouldn't that be cool?
Cool! I would never need a flashlight again!
And, imagine how easy would be to find Mr. Giggles then.
Who says I want to find him? LOL!
At least you'll know where he is so you can go the other way.
yer bad...I like that
Who me????
Kudos to Mr. Giggles.
hey! hey! hey!
We'll have none of that on my seeds, Mr Kavika!!!!!!!
What, what, what or wat, wat, wat.
We need a SiN here.
It would be great to attract some of the old sinners and their witty dialogue. I wonder where they are camping out these days......
They're slowly coming in
There, fixed it for ya.
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Witty dialogue is somewhat hindered by the ridiculous skirting rule.
Cobalt and Jen are pretty good at skewering somebody without becoming downright nasty.
Sister Agnes is pretty good at it, too.
I don't know, I think we can recruit Perry.
Using the words teabag and thumper seems to put some folks into orbit.
they aren't allowed any more
just like libtard isn't allowed anymore
Yes, but SiN was a private group if I recall. Al J extended me an invite shortly after I joined. Groups can be more flexible with their rules or has that changed with the new CoC? I really miss reading Al's posts. He was extraordinarily brilliant with his double entendre.
Megachurch Pastor Says Trump Has God’s Approval to Start Nuclear War
Me thinks not. If I am not mistaken, one of the principle Christian tenets is: Thou shalt not kill.
Pastor Jeffries made no such statement nor did he express “glee”
what Jeffries refers to is that the Apostle Paul stated that God does authorize governments to use their authority including weapons of war to confront evil.
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I'll see your Paul and raise you one Matthew 5:39
38 You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well;…
Care to cite your source for that Paul paraphrasing? Below is a much more befitting lesson from the bible...
Ecclesiastes 9:18
Wisdom Better than Strength
… 17 The words of the wise heard in quietness are better than the shouting of a ruler among fools. 18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war, but one sinner destroys much good.
Didn't your sky fairy's mouthpiece say that genocide was OK too, especially if it means you get to eradicate the Midianites? The good Southern Baptist pastor Jefress is just updating the Mosaic Code for the 21st century so it includes all Koreans and anyone else downwind of the Korean peninsula.
I wonder if there are many Southern Baptists today who don't want to nuke North Korea? I can only think of one or two and they're SBC members in name only.
Not related. The Mathew passage is about personal conduct, not the role and authority of government
Ah, so nuclear war (or calling for it) and potentially killing millions as a result isn't evil. Got it! >sarc<
I know that even a child can understand that self defense is not evil. Deleted - Skirting CoC {SP}
An indirect reference targets a category which includes the member. Derogatory statements attacking all within a category (e.g. liberals, conservatives, theists, atheists, Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, etc.) are indirect derogatory references.
Self defense? Like the last war in Iraq?
He's not even talking about "self-defense"! He's talking first strike! You do know what that means, don't you?
I remain proud of Bush's decision authorized by Congress for the Iraq War. Bush did a lot of things wrong, but the Iraq decision is not one of them.
The Iraq war was ethical and legal under international law and our own self defense. I'll give multiple posts to demonstrate why
the Setup as noted by the Clinton Administration
September 3, 1998 : Scott Ritter testifies before the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services and the Committee on Foreign Relations on U.S. policy regarding Iraq weapons inspection and Iraq's capacity to reconstitute weapons of mass destruction in a very short period of time.
December 16, 1998 : The United States and Great Britain begin a four-day air campaign against targets in Iraq, Operation Desert Fox . The stated mission: "to strike military and security targets in Iraq that contribute to Iraq's ability to produce, store, maintain and deliver weapons of mass destruction." UNSCOM withdraws its staff from Iraq.
December 16, 1998 : CNN reports responses from key congressional leaders:
I believe in negotiated solutions to international conflict. This is, unfortunately, not going to be the case in this situation where Saddam Hussein has been a repeat offender, ignoring the international community's requirement that he come clean with his weapons program." - Representative Nancy Pelosi (D, CA)
White House press briefing January 13, 1999
January 26, 1999
National Security Advisor Sandy Berger announces that President Clinton has changed the rules of engagement for US aircraft operating in Iraq, giving them much more authority to attack any part of the Iraqi air defense network.
January 27, 1999 : US Secretary of State Madeline Albright :
Saddam Hussein paid out over 35 million dollars to Arab jihadists for killing Jews and Americans. The following Americans were killed by those who took Saddam's blood money. Leaving aside all other reasons, this alone was sufficient reason for the US to take out Saddam Hussein
According to employees of the Iraqi Central Bank and the Rafidain Bank, the former Iraqi ambassador to Jordan, Sabah Yassen, withdrew money from the accounts to make payments ranging from $15,000 to $25,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, Hyde said.
Palestinians have said Saddam paid more than $35 million to families of Palestinians killed or wounded in the conflict with Israel that began in September 2000.
November 4, 2001, Jerusalem, Israel. Shoshana Ben-Yishai, 16, of Queens, NY was killed in a shooting at a bus station. U.S. citizen injured: Shlomo Kaye.
December 2, 2001, Jerusalem, Israel. Bombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Ziv Brill, 17, of West Hempstead, Long Island, NY, Temima Spetner, 19, of St. Louis, MI, Jason Kirshenbaum of New Rochelle, NY, Israel Hirschfield, 18, Joseph Leifer, 29, of Borough Park (Brooklyn), NY.
December 18, 2001, shooting on the Jerusalem-Shilo road . U.S. citizens injured: David Rubin, 44, of Brooklyn, NY, Asher "Ruby" Rubin, 3.
January 15, 2002, Bethlehem, West Bank. Avraham Boaz, 71, of New York, a dual Israeli-American citizen, was kidnapped at a PA security checkpoint in Beit Jala and murdered.
January 18, 2002: Shooting in Hadera. U.S. citizen killed: Aaron Elis, 32, son of Chicago family.
January 22, 2002: Shooting in Jerusalem, Israel. U.S. citizen injured: Shayna Gould, 19, of Chicago, IL
January 27, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. A Palestinian woman triggered a massive explosion in downtown Jerusalem killing one elderly Israeli and injuring more than 150, including American Mark Sokolow, his wife, and 16 and 12-year-old daughters. Sokolow had earlier survived the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center, escaping from his law office on the 38th floor of the South Tower before it collapsed.
February 8, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Stabbing in Abu Tor Peace Forest Jerusalem. U.S. citizen killed: Moranne Amit, 25
February 15, 2002, near Ramallah, West Bank. Lee Akunis was shot to death.
February 16, 2002: Bombing in Karnei Shomron. U.S. citizens killed: Keren Shatsky, 14, of Brooklyn, NY and Maine, Rachel Thaler, 16, of Baltimore, MD. U.S. citizens injured: Lior Thaler, 14, of Baltimore, MD, Hillel Trattner of Chicago, IL, Ronit Yucht Trattner of Chicago, IL, Chani Friedman of New York.
February 19, 2002: Shooting near Neve Dekalim. U.S. citizens injured: Moshe Saperstein of New York.
February 25, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Moran Amit, 25, was stabbed to death in Abu Tor Peace Forest in Jerusalem.
March 7, 2002, Eshel Hashomron Hotel, Ariel, Israel. A Christian tourist from Arkansas lost her right eye in an attack by a suicide bomber.
March 21, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Bombing on a Jerusalem street. U.S. citizens injured: Alan Joseph Bauer, 37, of Chicago, Yonathon Bauer, 7 (dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship).
March 24, 2002, Ofra, Israel. Shooting near Ofra. U.S. citizens killed: Esther Kleinman, 23, formerly of Chicago, IL.
March 27, 2002, Netanya, Israel. U.S. citizen Hannah Rogen, 90, was killed in a suicide attack at a Passover Seder.
March 31, 2002, Efrat, Israel. Bombing in Efrat. U.S. citizens injured: An unidentified American citizen.
June 18, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Moshe Gottlieb, 70, of Los Angeles, CA was killed in a bus bombing in Jerusalem.
June 19, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Gila Sara Kessler, 19, whose family came from New York, was killed in a bombing at a bus stop.
July 31, 2002, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel. Nine people were killed when a bomb exploded in the main cafeteria at the Hebrew University's Mount Scopus campus in Jerusalem . Five were U.S. citizens: Janis Ruth Coulter, 36, of MA; Marla Bennet, 24, of San Diego, CA; David Gritz (also a French citizen), 24, of Peru, MA; Benjamin Blutstein, 25, of Susquehanna Township, PA; and Dina Carter, 37, of NC. Israelis David Ladovsky, 29, and Levina Shapira, 53 also died in the bombing. U.S. citizens injured: Spencer Dew, 26, of Owensboro, Kentucky; Zeev Spencer; Harris Gershon; Jamie Harris. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa . U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.
March 7, 2003: Shooting in the victims’ home . U.S. citizens killed: Rabbi Eli Horowitz, 52, who grew up in Chicago; Dina Horowitz, 50, who grew up in Florida
The way you struggle to provide a cite for the bullshit passage supposedly uttered by the Apostle Paul?
Here's another verse from the bible :
Peter 3:12
11 He must turn away from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it. 12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and His ears are inclined to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” 13 Who will harm you if you are zealous for what is good?…
A little Iraq War 101 for Liberals (not that I expect you to pass but instruction in the truth is always a good thing)
Iraq had been in Material Breach of the Cease Fire Agreement between Iraq and the US led Coalition of the 1991 Gulf War
Under International Law, Material Breach is legal cause for resumption of Hostilities
Resolution 1441 stated that Iraq was in Material Breach of previous Resolutions including 678 and 687 which is sufficient under International Law on it’s own merits to justify the resumption of Hostilities.
The US Authorization of Force in Iraq cites Material Breach as one of the justifications
CHAPTER V
Armistices
Art. 40.
Any serious violation of the armistice by one of the parties gives the other party the right of denouncing it, and even, in cases of urgency, of recommencing hostilities immediately.
Art. 36.
An armistice suspends military operations by mutual agreement between the belligerent parties. If its duration is not defined, the belligerent parties may resume operations at any time, provided always that the enemy is warned within the time agreed upon, in accordance with the terms of the armistice.
Art. 37.
An armistice may be general or local. The first suspends the military operations of the belligerent States everywhere; the second only between certain fractions of the belligerent armies and within a fixed radius.
First Strike is an important element of self defense- a point made clear in a speech from one of our former presidents
There is no contradiction between that passage and the right that God gives us for self defense.
Jesus said to the Disciples: "
And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?”
So they said, “Nothing.”
36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. Luke 22:35,36
Initiating a war or calling for one is not self defense.
I guess you have nothing to offer other than ad hom attacks and erroneous inferences.
So where is the part where Jesus says to them, "Useth thy sword pre-emptively."?
And where is the cite for Apostle Paul's supposed rendering?
When you know that an enemy intends harm to you, it is entirely ethical to engage in self defense against them. Nowhere in the Bible is this condemned.
Of course it is. But most leftists believe that only if you survive an attack from your enemy is it ethical to defend yourself
total leftist nonsense
And another thing - reciting these passages isn't the same as advocating for or against [implied nuclear] war, the former being what Jeffress is definitely saying that God has given tRump the authority to do. Jeffress cannot possibly understand the mind of God, nor can he interpret God's will. Yet it seems the conservative congregation believes this drivel to justify mass murder. Kill 'em all and let God sort it out. That predication is simply irresponsible and as empty headed as the Amen that followed it.
And that's not evil?
I tell you, some folks are so batshit crazy.
Try to prove your supposition. I have proven that it is condemned and even by the commandments
Now before you get into the definition of murder according to U.S. law, U.S. Law didn't exist when the bible was being put together over the span of 1500 years. Murder meant to kill, period.
enough of the off-topic stuff on the Iraq war
no, it's not. It's aggression. But keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Your erroneous sweeping generalization aside, why do you keep inferring I'm "left?"
Jeffries made no such statements or inferences. That is purely a conclusion of your own bias
Because over the years I've never seen any post from you that didn't reflect leftist ideology
Then you haven't been paying attention. Unlike some people, I don't go by or follow "leftist" or "rightist" ideologies (whatever that is) blindly or go along such lines.
As equally is yours I suppose? Nah, you haven't even tried. Cite, or your side of this discord is merely a myth.
People like Jeffress have to work Jerusalem into the scenario somehow, but Im sure they are working on it. Any nuclear war must include Israel according to end of days beliefs, which Jeffress surely believes and touts.
Perhaps Israel will join us in an attack on North Korea and NK will send nukes Jerusalem way. Or so Jeffress hopes.
That’s a lie which I confronted earlier but was removed as somehow “off topic”
Thumping isn't permitted in this section of NT anymore.
I know...damn it!
Tell ya what Pastor. How about we send the coordinates of your Church to NK and let them try a test run on you.
So you are calling for an enemy of the US to launch a missile attack on the US
that amounts to treason on your part
Sounds like a tongue in cheek remark to me....
Isn't that what Trump and Jefress are both doing by fomenting a nuclear war immediately upwind of the US mainland?
And aren't you on the west coast, Larry? I guess you'll be one of the first to get a whiff of the fallout.
Sounds like treason and a death threat to me
then report it and stop whining
you're getting underwear
...from goodwill.
Oh really? What do you think bible babble sounds like?
The bible is superior to the Constitution, join our cult or suffer in this life and burn in hell forever. blah, blah, blah
I could use some socks. About a dozen tube socks please. And then a dozen each of black and brown dress socks. I were a size nine show so don't screw it up. And I am talking really good quality!!!
Me, too. My DIL makes fun of my daughter and I because we wear our socks out and wear them with holes
My grandmother used to darn socks. And the ones, that were too far gone to darn, were used to make and stuff various rags dolls that she made for the grandkids.
In case you ever want to spend your evening repairing holy socks....
Mr Giggles actually darns his socks when they have holes. You might think he's cheap, but he's not. That's just one of the things he hates spending money on.
I agree. I use holy socks for house shoes and then rags. LOL!
My first wife used to darn socks and it was great, unless she darned them on the heel, then I got blisters!!! Of course she was great with coming up with really great hippie patches for my Levis! It was the 70's after all. In fact when they split at the lower seams she would split them to the knees inside and out and sew in some great design material cloth in them making them great big bell bottoms! Great for boot cut or sneakers! Not so good for formal wear or weddings, depending the couple and if they were having a pig roast for a reception.
so how does God give this authority ? was this pastor contacted through phone or email or prayer ?
The Bible.
Yeshua told his followers to pray for their enemies. This pastor (like many other men claiming to be Yeshua's rep throughout history) is calling for Yeshua's followers to slay their enemies. I realize that pray and slay rhyme very prettily, but how is it possible to be an adult and confuse their definitions this grossly?
If Yeshua actually existed, it would greatly behoove him to set his followers on the path of the straight and narrow instead of leaving it up to us former followers to spoon feed the Bible to his current crop of would be followers who have not made the effort to read the instruction manual they claim to follow.
Pray, slay it's a couple of letters, probably a stone tablet typo.
so i am guessing that they are using a "playbook" (so to speak) that was written literally centuries ago before all of our modern technology/strategies/increased populations etc ?
It has been translated, rewritten, retranslated, updated, revised, edited and re-edited over 16 centuries in order to communicate the one true word of the one true god - Yahweh/Yeshua. Yahweh/Yeshua was patterned after former true gods that must have also required fine tuning before becoming socially obsolete and largely forgotten except by historical scholars.
That's why the Word of the One True God needs to be written on an etch-a-sketch.
Anyone recall the good ole days when crazy people could be committed much easier?
So did the pastor get this off of 'God's' twitter feed or was the message delivered via an ancient method like...fax machine?
You read garbage like this, then the rightists cannot figure out why we need separation of church and state. SMH
I forget, which part of the bible says, "thou shall nuke at will"? I didn't know we had nukes 2000 years ago.
That's in Numbers 31:1-18 where the Great Sky Fairy tells the Israelites (via Moses) to nuke the Midianites after they use all the young girls as sex slaves.
LOL So THAT's where it came from!
Oh wow, this says it all! Duh, let's go to war, we has got Gawd's approval, wein's is a gonna win and, the Rapture will happen and, we'll all drink Jebus koolaid all day and, all night. Ma, get my guns, I is a gonna go fight me some slant eyes in North Kerea.
As we all know, Jesus is the god of war.
His dad actually is a war god.
What a crock of bullshit. Where did the accused Pastor say what the title indicated? The Pastor may have indicated that God may be in favour of Trump being tough with Kim, but nuclear war? Such irresponsible provocative crap being posted on NT makes me physically sick.
Just imagine that this exact same controversy was surrounding an Imam, Buzz, then you'll be outraged instead of sick.
So Lenny, are you and your Greek Chorus of "thumb-uppers" asking me to post the MULTIPLE articles I've seen recently of Imams preaching to their congregations to go out and kill as many Jews as possible? I've not done that up until now, but don't think I'm not outraged when I see them. Are you not?
By the way, are you getting a kick out of posting a comment criticizing me after so many of my comments? Is that not considered stalking and a CoC violation? It's no longer a "donut" joke, Lenny.
Just speaking my mind Buzz, sorry if you can't handle it. I've read plenty of your extremist lunacy when it comes to the Islamic faith, I find it offensive, and, like I said, if the exact same controversy was surrounding an Imam, you would be outraged at the Imam, not defending him like you are this pastor. I notice you aren't denying this and thought you wouldn't, you're not a liar.
Lenny, I wasn't defending the Pastor, I was criticizing the headline of an article that was a falsehood, because the Pastor never mentioned nuclear war. You're right, I'm not a liar, and I don't tolerate liars and lies, which is what I criticized.
Oh, and as for articles I post about Islamists and radical Islam? Were they untrue? Point out one to me that was untrue, although the mainstream media is probably afraid to publish those stories.
Do you not find it offensive when Imams preach in their mosques to kill the Jews? Maybe you'd rather not answer that publicly.
So, now you think I endorse killing Jews? I hate Islam as much as I hate Christianity, Buzz, but I recognize that the vast majority of Christians AND Muslims are decent people who want the same things most every other human wants, decent employment, and a chance to raise and educate their children in a peaceful environment. Unlike you, I make no distinction between any of the Abrahamic faiths.
You haven't been an NT member close to the number of years that I have, so you would ignore or not be aware of the many times I've posted that I despise extremists of EVERY religion or non-faith. I have been as critical in the past of the Ultra-Orthodox Haradim as I have been of the Proselytizing Evangelists as I have been of the terrorist Islamists and radical Jew-hating Muslims. I am as aware as you that those extremists of all kinds are a small minority in their respective faiths.
Now THERE'S a fucking lie. Where did I say that?
Now you get your own quote in my special green quoting color! (you lucky devil)
There Buzz, right fucking there! You flat out accused me of taking no offense to people who suggest killing Jews, THEN you claimed I would not want to answer the question publicly. It doesn't get any clearer than that, I did not and DO not, lie.
Where did I say you said that? Who's the liar now?
First of all, Lenny, I asssume English is your first language so hopefully you'll understand this. The line you see above this one is a QUESTION, and NOT AN ACCUSATION - a question that is posed not in a negative but in a positive way, in other words, a kind of ASSURANCE expecting a positive answer.
The follow up sentence was voicing a concern that perhaps those on this site who see your reply, i.e. those who favour the rights of Palestinians over the rights of Israelis and who support Muslim terrorists as warriors fighting for their rights (and there ARE such persons who are NT members), who may be friends of yours, so you might not want those friends to see that in fact you DO disparage Imams who preach genocide against the Jews, or you might lose those friends. That is why I EXCUSED you from having to answer - that's what THAT sentence meant.
However, I'm finished with this conversation. I don't give a shit what you think any more, even if you're dead wrong.
To that, anything I would post would be a CoC violation, so I'll leave up to the membership who have known me a hell of a lot longer than you have to make their own decision.
Sorry, but based on votes up on this comment thread it seems the membership decided... definitively.
The CoC doesn't allow us to change the headlines.
This seed is no more bullshit than others that are posted here. Some of your seeds lately have left me shaking my head, but I just walk by and don't leave comments.
As I said to L., point out to me an article I've posted that is fake news - just because I post what the mainstream media in its leftist excessive PC doesn't have the nerve to post doesn't mean that what I post is not the truth. I abhor injustice, and if you're thinking of the hijab cases as not being extortion, then you can provide whatever opinion otherwise that you wish.
Can't do it, eh? Just as I thought.
No, I just don't feel like arguing with you.
I pick my battles carefully
I keep thinking of this movie.....
So do I trout. Where is Christopher Walken when you need him?
Probably dancing somewhere....
Eating Skittles.
Thanks, Kavika. I could watch that over and over and over....
Mr Giggles and I both agree that the worst movie is made better with Christopher Walken