University Bans Christian Fraternity
The Chi Alpha fraternity has been kicked off campus.
They were not punished for wild parties or crooning racially offensive songs. They were not caught taking liberties with young ladies. Nothing scandalous. Nothing like that. No, no, no.
They were kicked off the Cal State University Stanislaus campus because of Jesus.
Chi Alpha is a Christian fraternity. They've been on campus 40 years and for all of those years, they've mandated that their leaders to be Christians.
On face value, that seems to be fairly reasonable.
But Cal State says that is discriminatory. http://video.foxnews.com/v/4135965823001/starnes-university-bans-christian-fraternity/?#sp=show-clips
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Looks like (because of Johns rather thorough debunking of the claim against the Cal State University Stanislaus)you chose the wrong direction to pee in.
It seems like you might want to check the sources of your seeds to verify that they are in fact true instead of just posting whatever conforms to your preconceived notions of bogey men out to steal your hallowed christian liberties.
Is this supposed to be an example of the ''War on Christians''!!! More nonsense from a very deluded group.
Terrible. Hope someone will bankroll a challenge on First Amendment grounds, because this clearly violates freedom of Association. To quote the Supreme Court, "freedom of association plainly presupposes the freedom not to associate."
Moreover, its asinine to force groups to accept members who don't support the reason for the group's existence. Hardcore gay haters should not be able to join the LGBT, but apparently California requires that they should. Nor should a Muslim group be forced to allow Jewish members. Of course, we know California would never require that to happen. Christians are much easier to bully.
As usual, we get the hate-baiting, incendiary headline without the facts.
For an advocate of Christianity and "values," you might consider applying their tenets wheposting your hate-baiting seeds.
No link, deceptive headline
Sounds to me like you only post the false, snarky conclusion to a deceptively "reported" story.
Is that what "pro-Christians" are about?
Jesus would be black-balled by this fraternity because he was
Jewish.
For an advocate of Christianity and "values,","
Freedom of association is an American value. Christianity is really irrelevant to the issue.
Discrimination and ethnocentrism unfortunately also appear to be "values" for certain Americans; these are all too often the values of hypocrite religionists.
Christianity and those who practice it as exclusionary rather than, ironically, in that "love ye one another" thing way is the essence of relevancy in this discussion.
Not quite as alive asThe Sectarian HateFUL Christian movement.
And I have no doubt that you have no such doubt; it's the paranoia that goes with religiosity.
What about the whole point of Christianity ? If the group is in fact Christian, then it's not about itself, it's about
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It is not for you, or the government, to tell people how to practice their religion. By dictating to others what their "proper" beliefs are, you are no better than those you attack.
If a group ofChristianscan't require their leaders to be actualChristians, then the law truly isan ass. Stupid laws and the dogmaticimpositionofasininityon people by zealots only serve toundercutthe rule of law.
When politicians stop pandering to religion you'll be able to make that point
Same response.
Can't have it both ways. Want government out of religion but use religion to get elected to government.
Please explain to us all exactly what it is that is hateful of a group wanting leaders that actually believe in and promote what the group is all about in the 1st place? It's not like they want to exclude anyone from membership who just wants to check it out.
Wow, could there possibly be a more ambiguous way to practice discrimination? Does that mean they get to treat new recruits as slaves? If you trust the Holy Babble, then you accept that slavery is not immoral.
Does the leader have First Amendment rights too?
Why would anyone want the leadership of an organization to be opposed to or not believe in what the organization is all about? Why have a group when its possible that a leader could get in who hates and opposes everything that a group believes in and stands for?
Isn't that up to the organization members by process of an election rather than a dictum?
I keep seeing First Amendment in these threads how about extending that to the membership via a secret ballot election?
Because the membership can be made up of anyone. What's the point of having distinct groups at all if it doesn't have to have anything at all to do with the stated purpose of the group at all if enough others infiltrate it and take it over? What if a bunch of tea party members hid who they were and tok over a progressive club and elected leaders who were anathema to all that progressives stand for?
They would not be a progressive club anymore... Is that so hard for the tea party and christian crybabies to understand? I mean, the christians (or their dogma) took over the republican party and then let the whining tea partiers in, forever changing the GOP. Seems to be your MO.
Then a Christian club wouldn't be Christian anymore, which is the whole point here.
So the Christians can find another club, silly. Or, they can say, "Yes we can let anyone be a leader," and be done with it. There must be some provisions for removal if an officer does not live up to the duties of their office in good faith.
You guys, Christians, tea party, etc., complain way too much about something that is easy to get around, because you want everyone else to think it is some overly large imposition, when in reality it is merely you crying wolf.
Grow up and stand for something besides wining constantly.
Grow up and stand for something besides wining constantly.
My prediction is that they never will grow up. They are addicted to the attention of being the squalling babies that they really. Bunch of fucking whiners.