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Open Message Board n° 1

  

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By:  bob-nelson  •  6 years ago  •  223 comments

Open Message Board n° 1

Screenshot_36.png We all encounter "little stuff" all the time.
 - Little stories from real life as well as from the media.
 - "News" that's too quick to justify a full-blown seed.
 - A new joke we just heard.
 - ... whatever...

We'd like to share what we've just found... but there's no good way to do that. Until now!

This "article" is for everyone, to post whatever they wish to share...

Enjoy!


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Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

My go-to religion guy, Fred Clark, posts a snippet every Sunday. This is from last week:

Birmingham 12:7-14

You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court’s decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may well ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”
 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
2  Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

For those that prefer separation of church and state be glad Trump won and not Hillary. Hillary wants to preach. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    6 years ago

You're cool, Dean!

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
2.2  epistte  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    6 years ago

How is that evidence that she didn't support the separation of church and state?    She had Bill taught Sunday school during Bill's term as POTUS and they didn't have a problem with the separation of church and state.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
2.2.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  epistte @2.2    6 years ago

I’m glad Trump won and not Hillary. I’d rather have a businessman than a wannabe preacher in the White House. 

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bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.2.2  bbl-1  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.2.1    6 years ago

Sharp as a marble.

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
3  lennylynx    6 years ago

After tapping a new keg, you need to completely drain the line of the old beer or it tastes like crap.  Many bars fail to do so.  This message board rocks Bob!  thumbs up

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  lennylynx @3    6 years ago

I'm a beer person. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a decent IPA in France?

Such sacrifices......

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1    6 years ago

And Italian beer is just gross.  It all tastes like Busch.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    6 years ago

Italians brew beer?

Really?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3.1.3  SteevieGee  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1    6 years ago

I have to agree Bob.  If it's not Stella or Heineken you're stuck with wine.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
3.1.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.2    6 years ago

Yes, and they should stick to grapes.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.5  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.3    6 years ago

Being stuck with Italian wine is not the worst fate I can imagine...

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.6  GaJenn78  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1    6 years ago

I am an IPA girl thumbs up . We have several local brewery's here where I live that have very good IPAs.   That stinks you have a hard time finding them there.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.7  GaJenn78  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    6 years ago

laughing dude  Busch is the stuff you drink when you are young and broke LOL! I remember those days well! As I got older and started trying other beers, I asked my husband WTH were we thinking!?! LOL

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.8  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  GaJenn78 @3.1.6    6 years ago

We've found a couple (expensive) Belgian IPAs. Belgium (only about an hour north of here) is beer heaven.

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
3.1.9  lennylynx  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.8    6 years ago

Remember to stop in Amsterdam for some primo nose candy before coming back!  Happy

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.10  GaJenn78  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.8    6 years ago

I bet they are good! Are you able to bring any home across country lines/borders?

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.11  GaJenn78  replied to  lennylynx @3.1.9    6 years ago

laughing dude

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
3.1.12  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  GaJenn78 @3.1.7    6 years ago

When I was young and broke my cheap beer was something called Red Dog.  It’s disgusting.

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GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.13  GaJenn78  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.12    6 years ago

Ha! Us too! Along with Southpaw, Icehouse, Miller Lite etc.... Red Dog though, you could buy a 12 pack for $6.99, tasted like piss water but it did the job LOL

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.14  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  lennylynx @3.1.9    6 years ago

Amsterdam is w-a-a-a-y north.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.15  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  GaJenn78 @3.1.10    6 years ago
Are you able to bring any home across country lines/borders?

We buy at the local equivalent of Walmart. Northern France is under Belgian beer domination. Thank God, since most French beers are kinda Buschy.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.14    6 years ago

Come to Long Island! We have some of the best breweries! 

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.17  GaJenn78  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.15    6 years ago

LOL!!!! Buschy LOL!

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
3.1.18  pat wilson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    6 years ago

Peroni is pretty good.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.19  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.16    6 years ago

I prefer Steinlager myself. New Zealand's equivalent to Fosters, but better tasting! When I lived in Christchurch, New Zealand I used to love going to the Steinlager brewery there for their free tours with samples. Cheap way to get inebriated on a Saturday. Ah to be young and foolish, those were the days!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
3.1.20  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.16    6 years ago

I don't know about your breweries, but you make an iced tea to die for.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.8    6 years ago

My husband brews his own IPA

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.20    6 years ago

Those teas will get you in a shitload of trouble, too

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.23  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.21    6 years ago
My husband brews his own IPA

That's cool.

Does he have a lot of material? What about ingredients?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.23    6 years ago

I'll say it right up front...I pay little attention to what Mr Giggles does in his man cave. He has buckets, hoses, funnels, bottles, a capper, and some other stuff. He orders his ingredients from a catalog called Midwest Brewing.

That's all I know.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.1.26  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.8    6 years ago

Mmmmmm .... Trappist monk beer ...... mmmmmm

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.27  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.25    6 years ago
That's all I know.

Women are absolutely hopeless when it comes to the really important things in life!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.28  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.27    6 years ago

laughing dude

yer lucky I like you, Bob

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
3.1.29  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.22    6 years ago

Tell me about it.  The first time I drank 6 of them (I swear to God I thought it was just regular iced tea), I woke up the next morning in the back of a VW van in a gas station in Malibu.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.29    6 years ago

And I bet you have no idea how you landed there.

Unfortunately for me, I remember clearly the night I drank 5 of those things.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.2  GaJenn78  replied to  lennylynx @3    6 years ago

I use to be a bartender before I had my girls. I knew our lines were cleaned out every Monday. Every time we go out anywhere and a beer I want to order is on tap, I always ask when their lines have been cleaned. I know my husband hates it but if I'm paying $5 or more for a 16 oz beer, I want it to taste decent :-) 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  lennylynx @3    6 years ago

I think that must be the reason I can't stand draft beer and always get so sick after drinking it. Good advice, lenny!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

My go-to guy for economics is of course Paul Krugman :

merlin_139456467_c86537b6d912430babf0c97ee4ecb295superJumbo.jpg A correspondent asks a very good question. The other day I posted a wonkish piece about the economics of a trade war, which argued that there would be huge disruption but the overall cost would be smaller than many people imagine — maybe 2-3% of GDP. The correspondent asked how to reconcile this with typical estimates of the cost of Brexit.

Such estimates — I’ve done my own back-of-the-envelope version, which is more in less in the same ballpark (cricket field?) as other estimates — typically run somewhere around 2 percent of British GDP. Yet even pessimists predict a much smaller impact of Brexit on British trade than the huge declines I’ve been suggesting from a Trump-created trade war, which I have just decided to call Trumpit. Aren’t these estimates inconsistent?

No, not really, because Brexit isn’t about higher tariffs; it’s about higher trade costs, higher costs of doing business across borders. And that makes a huge difference.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

What border crisis?

That’s the question from officials in the border city of Brownsville, Tex., who see a stark disconnect between President’s Trump’s rhetoric and the reality of their everyday lives. Federal data bears out their assertions that crime is low and unauthorized crossings are down. (NYT)

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
5.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    6 years ago

I wonder if there is any connection to the border fence they now have in Brownsville, Tx. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.1    6 years ago

Obviously. I can't imagine any other explanation...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.1    6 years ago

Interesting factoid from the BBC:

A   US Customs and Border Protection report   credits any changes to the president's policies to   improved border security.

And while cross-border migrants often make headlines, the largest number of illegal migrants settling in the US each year are the people who stay in the country after their visas expire.

According to the most recent reports by the Department of Homeland Security and the   Center for Migration Studies,   the number who overstayed their visas has outnumbered those who crossed the border illegally every year since 2007. Canadians make up the largest group of these illegal migrants.

In 2016, there were a total of 739,478 overstays, compared to 563,204 illegal border crossings.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.3  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    6 years ago
Canadians make up the largest group of these illegal migrants.

Hooda thunkit??

Lots of Canadian snowbirds in Yuma. Maybe some never go home?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.3    6 years ago

Lots of them in Florida, too. I haven't a clue. Just an odd stat that I found. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.5  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.4    6 years ago

They have some odd rules, like health care coverage, that kinda sorta require them to go home every six months.

Buzz would know, but I think he's asleep.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    6 years ago

Now maybe we can finally ship back Justin Bieber.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.7  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ender @5.1.6    6 years ago

Yes!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
5.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @5.1.6    6 years ago

I think Canada passed the Beiber law called He Is Your Problem Now.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
5.1.9  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.8    6 years ago

Ohhhh crap! Talk about passing the buck. But in this case, it's passing the Beeb. Face Palm

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
5.1.10  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    6 years ago

I bet Donald Trump doesn’t even know that.  Otherwise he would have rounded up a few thousand of them and shipped them back to Canada after his farce at the G7, to get back at Trudeau.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @5.1.6    6 years ago

Maybe we could make a trade. They give us Rush (the rock band not the rock head) and we give them Bieber back

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
5.1.12  Freefaller  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.11    6 years ago

Or we give you Rush and you keep Bieber too

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Freefaller @5.1.12    6 years ago

If you mean Rush the rock head, then, yeah

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
5.1.14  Freefaller  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.3    6 years ago
Maybe some never go home?

I know more than a few down in Fl that never go home

 
 
 
Groucho
Freshman Silent
5.1.15  Groucho  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.4    6 years ago

I don't mean to be rude but I cannot help myself.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
6  Hal A. Lujah    6 years ago

I’ve been calling my wife “ma waaf” ever since this originally aired.  At the end of the show Louis revealed that they broke because his fake Polish accent was so horrible.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    6 years ago

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From Poland via Atlanta, Ga!  The worst accents I've ever heard!

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Quiet
6.2  PJ  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    6 years ago

Congratulations on your recent nuptials Hal. How’s married life treating you and how was the trip?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
6.2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  PJ @6.2    6 years ago

It’s no different really, other than now having to wear a piece of jewelry (I’ve never been a jewelry guy).  Although I suppose Jesus is pleased that we are no longer living in sin.  winking   The trip was amazing - thanks for asking.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6.2.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.2.1    6 years ago

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I guess I missed an episode...

Add my congrats!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
6.2.3  GaJenn78  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.2.1    6 years ago

Congrats, Hal!!!!!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
6.2.4  Raven Wing  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.2.1    6 years ago

Congratulations on your marriage, Hal. May the path ahead provide lots of joy and happiness. thumbs up

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    6 years ago

Congratulations on your marriage!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  JohnRussell    6 years ago

I like the idea of people being able to make one off comments on whatever they want. I tried it here once before and there was no success, but there are more people here now and maybe this one will go better. 

 

Trump, Jr. and the Roseanne Barr story

I’ve never seen anyone wallow in his dipshittery as proudly as Donald Trump Jr.

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) June 13, 2018

Donald Trump Jr. has been rewteeting and liking white supremacist and conspiracy material on twitter since at least the time his father started running for office as a banner for white nationalism and conspiracy theories. 

 
 
 
Enoch
Masters Quiet
8  Enoch    6 years ago

Am I the only one upset by the whole, "When two vowels go walking the first one does the talking"?

Are we to live in a society where the second vowel is relegated to second class citizenship status?

The wisdom of the vision of our Founding Fathers is that all vowels are created equal  (including sometimes Y). 

While we are on the subject, I before E, except after C.

What's up with that?

Have any proponents of this bothered to weigh how this affects the self esteem of our neighbor E's?

Enoch, Passing Go and Collecting $200.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
8.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Enoch @8    6 years ago

Injustice must be defeated!

Forward spelling reform!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Enoch @8    6 years ago

It is outrageous!  Time to organize a protest.

E before I!!

Whenever we like!!

E before I!!

Whenever we like!!

 
 
 
Enoch
Masters Quiet
8.2.1  Enoch  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2    6 years ago

A chant heard at a rally for procrastinators and unfocused.

"What do we want?

Not sure.

When do we demand it?

Later!"

Enoch, Deciding Not To Choose.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Enoch @8.2.1    6 years ago

I'm trying to decide how much time and energy I'm willing to put into this protest that will never resolve anything.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.3  Ender  replied to  Enoch @8    6 years ago

It's the silent consonants one has to look out for.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
8.3.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ender @8.3    6 years ago

Sneaky bastards!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
8.3.2  MrFrost  replied to  Ender @8.3    6 years ago
It's the silent consonants one has to look out for.

And those are the ones that really stink.....oh you said consonants... Never mind. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
8.3.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @8.3    6 years ago

It is the dangling participles that always did me in, damn them.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.3.4  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.3.3    6 years ago
It is the dangling participles that always did me in, damn them.

Me too. But, I got tired of fighting them and just cut them off at the source.  There is more than one way to deal with a dangler. patience

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.3.5  Ender  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.3.3    6 years ago

laughing dude

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.3.3    6 years ago

They're always tripping me up!

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
8.3.7  Freefaller  replied to  Raven Wing @8.3.4    6 years ago
cut them off at the source

Got to say I find this talk about cutting things that dangle off somewhat disturbing.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
8.3.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Raven Wing @8.3.4    6 years ago

laughing dude

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
8.3.9  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freefaller @8.3.7    6 years ago
Got to say I find this talk about cutting things that dangle off somewhat disturbing.

I'm immensely happy that I wasn't the only one who thought of man-bits.

In other news, I can't believe it's been 25 years since Lorena Bobbitt...um...bobbed it.

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
8.3.10  Freefaller  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.3.9    6 years ago
I can't believe it's been 25 years since Lorena Bobbitt...um...bobbed it.

I know, but as the saying goes "the days may be long but the years are short"

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.3.11  Raven Wing  replied to  Freefaller @8.3.7    6 years ago
Got to say I find this talk about cutting things that dangle off somewhat disturbing.

Giggle

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
8.4  MrFrost  replied to  Enoch @8    6 years ago

English is a screwy language. "To, too, two"... Their, there, they're...  I dated a gal that was born and raised in Berlin. She taught me enough German to carry on an abbreviated conversation....SO much easier than English.. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.4.1  Raven Wing  replied to  MrFrost @8.4    6 years ago
She taught me enough German to carry on an abbreviated conversation....

That's where I am with my German and French. But, French is much more complicated than German. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.1    6 years ago

I took French in high school and college and didn't think it was that difficult. It followed logic more so than English.

But don't ask me to speak it today

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
8.4.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.1    6 years ago

I can order beer in five languages, but only know how to ask where the bathroom is in two of them.  As you never buy beer, you only rent it, there are three countries that I will only order water.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.4.4  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.2    6 years ago
I took French in high school and college and didn't think it was that difficult.

I guess it all has to do with the tongue and how it can manipulate the words. My difficulty was in the pronunciation of the words properly, as, I just could not seem to get my tongue wrapped around some of the words. Maybe it has to do with my Southern drawl. chuckle

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.4.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.4.3    6 years ago
but only know how to ask where the bathroom is in two of them.

That is how I am with a couple of languages as well. There is a fairly large Samoan community in San Diego, and when I worked at the Light Rail transit organization, there were several Samoans who worked there, and we would meet on our breaks and they would teach me some words. But, they got transferred to another shift and we could no longer meet. Thus, I was left with just he words I had a chance to learn, which was not really enough to carry on a conversation with. 

Portuguese was another language that I learned a bit of from a Portuguese lady who whose husband was a fisherman when the big fishing fleets were in San Diego before they moved to Long Beach. It is a very interesting language, as it is unlike other languages. I was sorry that I could not learn more before they had to move to Long Beach with the fishing fleet. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.4.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.5    6 years ago

I understand Portuguese is very difficult to learn. My cousin spent quite a few years in Brazil and now speaks it fluently as does her children.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.4.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.4    6 years ago

rolling the r's is the hardest. I never got praise for my pronunciation, but I did pretty well with reading and writing it

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
8.4.8  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.4    6 years ago

Different languages have different sounds, requiring different configurations of tongue, teeth, lips, ... A child learns these sounds along with vocabulary. Meanwhile learning all sorts of other "psycho-motor" configurations in sports, and so on...

The child loses the capacity to learn new configurations with the onset of puberty. Existing configurations can be modified a bit, but genuine novelties are finished.

So... If you learn a new language as an adult, it is highly likely that you will never get its sounds exactly right.

And also, this explains why the person who learned several languages as a child has a much easier time of it later. They "modify existing configurations" rather than create new ones.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.4.9  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.6    6 years ago
I understand Portuguese is very difficult to learn

It is, as it is not like any other language, it is a language all to itself. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
8.4.10  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.7    6 years ago
rolling the r's is the hardest.

Rolling the r's was not too much of a problem for me as there are a lot of those in Spanish, so I learned how to do that pretty well. But, The hard part is if there is no one around who speaks the language when you are trying to learn it to practice conversing with. Also, most of what I learned is from those who actually speak the language, which can sometimes be different than what they teach in a classroom. I guess it depends on their dialect of the area where they area from. Just like here in America there are various dialects across the country based upon where people live. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.11  Raven Wing  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.4.8    6 years ago

Very true, Bob. I am actually fairly good with accents and the percussive sounds that go with some languages. But, others are more difficult words to pronounce. I relate some of it to learning the different dialects here in America. The English language seems to change as you go from one part of the country to another. And of course they have their own slang words and local terms. 

However, I do love to learn other languages. I am currently watching both S. Koran and Chinese productions, and while there are Eng subs for them, I like to pay attention to their words and try to learn from them. However, like many other languages, they tend to speak backwards compared to English. It's like in English we say "I'm going to the store", and they say, "To the store I am going", so it makes it a bit hard to master. The speed of their speech also makes it hard to follow at times. But, it is fun try and see how well I can follow what they are saying compared to the subs.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.4.12  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.11    6 years ago

I'm bilingual English-French. My French vocabulary is probably better than 90% of native French - I always want a precise word in either language. But I have a slight accent, and undoubtedly always will. This confuses listeners, since they're hearing a contradiction: excellent grammar and vocabulary, but pronunciation that is just a teeny tiny bit "off".

Sometimes, when asked "where are you from, originally?", I answer "I'm from Alsace". That's a region on the German border where many people speak Alsatian, a dialect of German, as primary language, with French as a universal but second language. The result is that many Alsatians have noticeable accents when speaking French.

The explanation is accepted most of the time...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.4.13  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.10    6 years ago
Also, most of what I learned is from those who actually speak the language, which can sometimes be different than what they teach in a classroom.

Oh yeah!!!

My wife "kinda sorta gets along" in English. She's constantly complaining that she learned "English English" way back in her school days, and that Americans just don't speak the same language. Which is true!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.4.14  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.7    6 years ago
rolling the r's is the hardest.

Yes, unless you're from Scotland...

In exchange, the French are completely flummoxed by "th". English has two "th" sounds, vibrated ("this") and non-vibrated '("think"). Both require putting the tongue fairly far forward, and up against the upper incisors. That's a configuration that doesn't exist in French, so Francophones make do with the "z" and "s" that characterize a "French accent".

 
 
 
epistte
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8.4.15  epistte  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.1    6 years ago
That's where I am with my German and French. But, French is much more complicated than German.

I have 2+ years of French in high school and I have tried to learn German on my own and I've always thought that German was more difficult to learn. I only know enough German to stumble way way through the most basic tourist situations.  I would never ever be considered fluent in French but I can get along in most situations if I had to. I was made fun of in Montreal because I learned Parisian French and Quebecois is more informal tongue.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.16  Raven Wing  replied to  epistte @8.4.15    6 years ago

It is sort of like learning German. There is High German and Low German, and it does make a difference which one you speak where in Germany. High German is the more standard German spoken in Germany. So like the difference in the French spoken in the Parisian French and that spoken in Quebec.   

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.17  Raven Wing  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.4.13    6 years ago
and that Americans just don't speak the same language.

True. And a good many Americans don't even really speak English, as they have accents and dialects depending on where they live here in America. I was raised in various Southern states, so I naturally have a Southern accent, but, it is a mixture of the words and accents of the various states where I had lived. So in a way I had an English language all my own. 

When I first moved to Calif I was still in school. And it is hard enough getting into a new school, but, in a new state with a different language it was really rough. The people in Calif talked very fast compared to my more drawn out Southern drawl. So when they would talk I lost a lot of the conversation as I could not keep up with them. Plus, they had many different words that I had not heard before. So I would ask them to speak slower for me. On the other hand, when I would talk they would become impatient with my slower talking and tell me to speed up. So it took some adjustment to get used to the difference in the language. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.18  Raven Wing  replied to  epistte @8.4.15    6 years ago

The one language that was fairly easy for me to learn was Italian. And while there are also variations of Italian in the different areas of Italy and Sicily, one can still manage to understand no matter what area you are in. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.4.19  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.16    6 years ago

When I first came to Europe, nearly fifty years ago (stunned ), I spent a few months in Germany, learning the language. Back then, I could listen to the radio and read a newspaper, which are pretty good tests. I've lost most of it, for lack of practice.

I was in Bavaria, where there's an accent, but in some parts of Germany there's worse! Dialects! One day, our teacher spoke a few sentences in Oberbayerisch , from the hinterlands near Austria. We didn't understand anything . Standarddeutsch , the standard, has a particular word-order, wortordnung , notably putting the verb at the end when there's an auxiliary. Wortordnung is absolutely central to the German language.

So... of course... Oberbayerisch has a different wortordnung ....... yelling

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.4.20  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.18    6 years ago

Whenever I hear Italian, I feel like I should understand. It's so close to French. But no....

Likewise with Dutch. Between my English and what remains of my German, I always feel like I should understand. But no... Not a problem, of course. The Dutch all speak English. And German. And French. They're disgusting!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.21  Raven Wing  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.4.19    6 years ago

Like most languages, including American English, there are always different dialects and words that have different meanings. Like the difference between many Southern areas and Northern areas, as well as the difference between the Eastern and Western areas, and then there are the in between areas. My Parents found that out traveling around the country in the Motorhome after my Father retired. It seems like even each state has their own language, as well as differing dialects in each state, so there does not seem to be any real 'standard' language. So understandably this can, and sometimes does, apply to other countries. What seems to be the oddest for me is the different dialects for each region or area across America as well.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.4.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.4.20    6 years ago

Those poor people are surrounded by the English, German, and French.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.4.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.21    6 years ago

Pittsburghese is a language all its own. Do you remember Vlad's Dog from Newsvine? He used to write hilarious articles using Pittsbughese. I grew up about 70 miles to the east of Pittsburgh and while our dialect wasn't as bad as that in Pittsburgh, we had our share of made up words. Where I come from, vowels are almost absent from the language and always use an extra consonant when you can.

But even in the South people here put an "r" in their "warsh". Even our governor talks like that.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.24  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.23    6 years ago
But even in the South people here put an "r" in their "warsh". Even our governor talks like that.

Indeed. I lived in every Southern state but Florida (no extended family living there) and even from state to state the language was different. But, like, "Isa fer piece up yonder" (as they pointed) always seemed rather standard in them all. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.4.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.24    6 years ago

I remember the first time I heard some one say "fixin' to". I was in basic training and somebody from Texas said it. I looked at them and asked "what are you fixing?".

Now I use it all the time. I have a curious way of speaking because I've lived all over Pennsylvania (and the dialects there vary from county to county) and different parts of the country. And being in the military exposes you to a wide variety of people who all talk funny. I remember talking to a plumber who was originally from North Carolina. We were in his shop at Eielson AFB and he said "pap". WTF is he saying? He was saying "pipe"

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.4.26  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.24    6 years ago

As we were ordering our meal in a pub in Scotland, the waitress asked, "I'll?"

I asked, "You'll what?"

She looked at me... strangely...

...  ...  ... Eventually we figured out that she wanted our drink orders and was suggesting "ale".

 
 
 
GregTx
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8.4.27  GregTx  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.25    6 years ago

They must've been from somewhere in northern Texas, around here the term would be "fid'n to".Happy

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.28  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.4.25    6 years ago

Yeah.....or the "Ima fixin to", which was a staple in many Southern states. Or "Ima gonna" which didn't seem to mater what they were referring to. My ex was from Little Italy in Cleveland OH, and when we went back to visit his family for the first time, it took me the first 3 days of our week stay to even begin to grasp what they were saying between their Italian accent and broken English and their local OH slang words. But, they were Sicilian, so even their form of Italian was somewhat different than the Italian I had learned, which was from mainland Italy. Even there, there was a difference in the Northern and Southern Italian. 

I studied Spanish in the 4th grade, however, what I learned in school and what was spoken here in America was as different as night and say. When I spoke to the Mexican kids I knew they looked at me like, "Huh?" So I learned to speak the Spanish language here in America.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.29  Raven Wing  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.4.26    6 years ago

Yeah...accents and different dialects can make it hard at times to follow. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.4.30  Raven Wing  replied to  GregTx @8.4.27    6 years ago
They must've been from somewhere in northern Texas, around here the term would be "fid'n to"

Yeah, I lived in Ft Worth, so that was Northeastern Texas. But, we also live for a while in San Antonio and Brownsville when my Father was with the Texas Rangers. And I remember Victoria had the worst mosquitoes I have ever seen. I am highly allergic to their saliva and the chemical they inject to keep the blood from coagulating while they are feeding. So for me it was a living hell. I have never lived anywhere else that I was so miserable. Even Atlanta and Metairie LA, was not that bad.

 
 
 
GregTx
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8.4.31  GregTx  replied to  Raven Wing @8.4.30    6 years ago

That does sound miserable. I can't imagine living anywhere in the deep south was pleasant with an allergy like that.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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9  lennylynx    6 years ago

I'm on board Enoch!  Vowel justice NOOOOWWWWW!!  Happy

 
 
 
MrFrost
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10  MrFrost    6 years ago

Anything huh?

Two Corinthians walk into a bar.. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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10.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  MrFrost @10    6 years ago

Great story!!    LOL

 
 
 
Enoch
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10.2  Enoch  replied to  MrFrost @10    6 years ago

A Rabbi, Priest and Minister walk into a tavern.

One turns to the other two and asks, "Have you heard the one about us"?

Enoch, About to Wet My Ecumenical Whistle.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11  JohnRussell    6 years ago

Has anyone seen the movie "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri"

I'd be curious to know what people thought if it. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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11.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @11    6 years ago

I did. 

I liked it. I thought it really think about morality.. even if the ending is a bit ambiguous. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1    6 years ago

Fantastic acting. The unusual nature of the story was interesting. 

It was a lot darker than I thought it was going to be. Very grim picture of human nature. The end is ambiguous. Without giving it away , I thought the end was more not hopeful than hopeful that these people could change. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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11.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.1    6 years ago

I'll watch it when it comes on cable TV

 
 
 
TOM PA
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12  TOM PA    6 years ago

  Haven't seen many boards about S.H.Sanders expulsion from a restaurant.  Sounds like the SCOTUS made a good call in deciding that a deeply held belief can be used to not serve someone.  Karma or getting bit with your own teeth?  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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12.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  TOM PA @12    6 years ago

Gays have no choice about who they are. Sanders doesn't have to serve a creature like Trump.

She chooses her path.

(There's at least one seed up, on the subject of Sanders's expulsion.)

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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12.1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Bob Nelson @12.1    6 years ago
(There's at least one seed up, on the subject of Sanders's expulsion.)

There seems to be another attack posting added from another right winger. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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12.1.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Raven Wing @12.1.1    6 years ago
... another attack posting...

It's like the weather. Unpleasant, but there's nothing to be done...

 
 
 
pat wilson
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12.2  pat wilson  replied to  TOM PA @12    6 years ago

It won't kill her to miss a meal (or two).

 
 
 
pat wilson
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12.2.2  pat wilson  replied to    6 years ago

get over yourself

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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12.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to    6 years ago

that's rich coming from you considering what you said to me one day

 
 
 
MrFrost
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12.3  MrFrost  replied to  TOM PA @12    6 years ago
Haven't seen many boards about S.H.Sanders expulsion from a restaurant.

Perhaps she was booted because she looks like she ate an elephant. 

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GaJenn78
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12.3.1  GaJenn78  replied to  MrFrost @12.3    6 years ago

Frosty, thats, just mean.... LOL

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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12.3.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  MrFrost @12.3    6 years ago

I do not approve!

But I can't stop laughing.... confused

 
 
 
MrFrost
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12.3.3  MrFrost  replied to  GaJenn78 @12.3.1    6 years ago
Frosty, thats, just mean.... LOL

My work here is done. Thumbs Up 2

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.3.4  GaJenn78  replied to  Bob Nelson @12.3.2    6 years ago

Same LOL

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
12.3.5  GaJenn78  replied to  MrFrost @12.3.3    6 years ago

As long as you have put in a full days.... LOLchuckle

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
12.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @12.3.3    6 years ago

I thought I told you about that before....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
12.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  TOM PA @12    6 years ago

Sarah Sanders got booted from a restaurant?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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13  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

01-vw-id-r-pikes-peak-2018-1.jpg From Autoblog (where there are lots more photos and a cool video):

It's official. With a time of 7:57.148, Romain Dumas set a new record for the fastest time up the famed Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. His average speed was 90.538 miles per hour, according to the event's official live timing board. The previous record of 8:13.878 was set in 2013 by Sebastien Loeb in a specially prepared Peugeot racecar.

For those unaware of the intricacies of Pikes Peak, the 12.42-mile course is composed of 156 turns and summits at 14,115 feet above sea level. The Volkswagen I.D. R electric racecar is an impressive beast that boasts 680 horsepower and 479 pound-feet of torque distributed by electric motors to all four wheels. At less than 2,500 pounds, the VW is very light considering all those batteries it's hauling around, and it borrows aerodynamic elements from VW corporate cousin Porsche.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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14  GaJenn78    6 years ago

OK, did anyone catch the F&F this morning when they had the debate going on? Their commentators, I mean? This one guy told a black democrat that he had lost his "cotton pickin'" mind...... OMG!!!!! I looked at my husband and said, "did he just say what I thought he said?", Hubs rewound it a few times. We say the phrase "cotton pickin'" for a few things, but WOW...... I don't think this guy will be back, especially when Ed Henry had to apologize for a commentator after a commercial break.... I was dumbfounded.... 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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14.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  GaJenn78 @14    6 years ago
This one guy told a black democrat that he had lost his "cotton pickin'" mind...... OMG!!!!!

And only those who are out looking for racist comments will see this as racist.  I've heard that phrase used my whole life.  Up north and down south.  Used by blacks and whites.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
14.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @14.1    6 years ago
I've heard that phrase used my whole life.

Same here. I don't see anything wrong with the comment either. I will admit that on it's surface it could have been worded better, but, I have used that term many times. No big deal. 

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
14.1.2  GaJenn78  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @14.1    6 years ago

I have too but my hubs who is from MS. said this isn't ok, I told him it will get peeps in an uproar, but he still said it was said to a black man, so it isn't going to sit well.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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14.1.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @14.1    6 years ago

It was really about the tone in his voice when he said it - a bit specific and condescending.  He may not have meant for it to sound the way it did, but it came across very questionable.  He later apologized for it, so even he knew it looked and sounded wrong.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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14.1.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @14.1    6 years ago
I've heard that phrase used my whole life.

Me, too.  It just never occurred to me that it was in any way racist.

 See the source image

 
 
 
pat wilson
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15  pat wilson    6 years ago

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Bob Nelson
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15.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  pat wilson @15    6 years ago

I know that feeling...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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15.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  pat wilson @15    6 years ago

I resemble that remark!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
15.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  pat wilson @15    6 years ago

I had my first green tea the other day. I wasn't impressed. And then Mr G proceeds to tell me that it gives you the shits. I told him thanks for the warning

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
15.3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.3    6 years ago

Well, it's better than visiting the Kellogg farm and getting a high colonics.. and you lose a few lbs.... 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
15.3.2  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.3    6 years ago

Yes, it does. I steer clear of the green tea. After I had my iliostomy for a year, I was "re-plumbed" so I crapped like everyone else again, (long long story). A year after I was re-plumbed, I had to have a colonoscopy to make sure my insidey parts had healed properly. Doctor gave me a script for, "go-lytely"... So I get it home, add water and start drinking 8oz glasses, every 10 minutes... It's like drinking sea water, effing gross. After an hour, and nothing happening, I felt a gurgle...then a bubble...and instead of sitting on the shitter that was a mere 15 feet away, I had to jump in the shower, didn't quite make it. Wife thought it was hilarious.....until she had to do the same thing 6 months later... "Not so damn funny now, is it SWEETIE!!!". "Go-lytely"... Not sure who the jackass was that came up with that name, but they have a heck of a sense of humor. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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15.3.3  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  MrFrost @15.3.2    6 years ago

Gee... thanks s-o-o-o-o much for this story. It's going to take a while to get the imagery out of my head...  patience

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
15.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @15.3.2    6 years ago

laughing dude I'm sorry but that's funny

I started getting colonoscopies when I was only 38 because of a family history of colon cancer. The first time I went in I had to drink some stuff or take pills, can't really remember, but what I do remember is having to do the enema...to myself. I told Mr Giggles to take the kids to school and then come back later to take me to the hospital for my test. That wasn't pleasant but my mother laughed at me when I told her about it.

Then came the golyghtly and horse pills. I don't mind colonoscopies itself because of that wonderful sleepy time vacay I get to take, but the prep is the worst.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
16  MrFrost    6 years ago

Shameless... The show you should be watching, if you aren't already. (First 8 seasons now on Netflix). 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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16.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  MrFrost @16    6 years ago

Are you recommending the British original, or the American remake? I haven't seen either.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
16.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Bob Nelson @16.1    6 years ago

The American remake. William H. Macey makes a GREAT derelict alcoholic father with ZERO morals. Lots of nudity, sex, drinking, drug use and general debauchery? Great show. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @16.1.1    6 years ago

I'm going to get back into it when the weather turns cooler or I have a Sunday with nothing better to do

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
16.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  MrFrost @16    6 years ago

We have never missed Shameless since the first episode.  Love it.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
17  GaJenn78    6 years ago

Sooooooo, whats everyone eating this Sunday? I have some carne asada that I'm grilling up along with some fajita chicken strips. So fajitas it is in my house! Oh, and a nice IPA :-) It's by Terrapin brewed in Athens, Ga. :-)

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
17.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  GaJenn78 @17    6 years ago

Leftovers... but nice! Steak cut into strips and stirred with the veggies, and a crab for starter. A decent Côtes du Rhône...

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
17.1.1  GaJenn78  replied to  Bob Nelson @17.1    6 years ago

Over in France, y'all eat all day, right? Your actual dinner is about 10pm right? Or is that more of a Spain thing?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
17.1.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  GaJenn78 @17.1.1    6 years ago

Over in France, y'all eat all day, right? Your actual dinner is about 10pm right? Or is that more of a Spain thing

The main meal is the noon meal, although that's been kinda upset by modern working hours. A couple decades ago, everyone took two hours off from work at noon, and many went home to eat. Nowadays, too many people have long commutes, so they prefer to stay close to work at midday, eat quick, and use the time for their commutes.

I think the 10 o'clock dinner is a Spanish thing, but I'm not sure.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
17.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @17.1.2    6 years ago
I think the 10 o'clock dinner is a Spanish thing

I think you're right since Mr G's family all love to eat very late

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
17.2  MrFrost  replied to  GaJenn78 @17    6 years ago

Made a shrimp salad and some jalapeño and cheddar brats.. Nothing fancy. 

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
17.2.1  GaJenn78  replied to  MrFrost @17.2    6 years ago

Love brats!

 
 
 
charger 383
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17.3  charger 383  replied to  GaJenn78 @17    6 years ago

Corn on the cob and asparagus from fruit stand and tomatoes from my garden and cold shrimp I brought home from shrimp dinner at the Legion

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
17.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  GaJenn78 @17    6 years ago

Poulet avec purée de pomme de terre.

Sounds so much more sophisticated in French.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
17.5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @17.5    6 years ago

Chicken with pureed potatoes.

I can read French better than I can speak it

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
17.5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @17.5.1    6 years ago

or is it mashed potatoes?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
17.5.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @17.5.2    6 years ago

mashed

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
17.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  GaJenn78 @17    6 years ago

I'm just recovering from a nasty bout of food poisoning so my intake is consisting of liquids and mostly eggs. :(

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
17.7.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @17.7    6 years ago
I'm just recovering from a nasty bout of food poisoning

Ewwww.....so sorry to hear that. I had one of those several years ago and it was total misery from one end to the other. 
I hope you get to feeling better soon. But, take it easy, that stuff is meanToo Much Info

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
17.7.2  charger 383  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @17.7    6 years ago

hope you feel better soon

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
17.7.3  GaJenn78  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @17.7    6 years ago

Goodness! Hope you feel better soon!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
17.7.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @17.7    6 years ago

Food poisoning is the worse! Hope you feel better soon.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
17.7.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Raven Wing @17.7.1    6 years ago

I will never eat a dodger dog again.  Thank you to E1 who wished me recovery.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
19  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

Bed-time.

G'night all...

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
20  Ender    6 years ago

For some reason this website thinks that I can take a vacation and afford to stay at the Biltmore Hotel.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
21  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

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Space Science Image of the Week: Nearby asteroids thread through a stunning portrait of galaxy clusters

From ESA

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
21.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Bob Nelson @21    6 years ago

It looks like they need to clean the cat hair off the lens.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
21.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @21.1    6 years ago

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
22  Buzz of the Orient    6 years ago

Bringing up to date a famous Chinese saying:

Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day. Teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks, months, maybe years unless you give them your email address.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
22.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @22    6 years ago
Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day.

I like yours very much but here's one I saw on the internet (or was it a T-shirt?), anyway:

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day...teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat drinking beer all day

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
22.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @22.1    6 years ago

LOL

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24  JohnRussell    6 years ago

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Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
24.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @24    6 years ago

Do you have the story behind that picture?  It looks like an interesting story line.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
24.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @24.1    6 years ago
Do you have the story behind that picture?

Looks like southern Democrats harassing people in a restaurant.  

Awe the good ole days returning for the Democrats.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
24.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sunshine @24.1.1    6 years ago

If you don't know the answer, fine.  Just don't make it all about politics when none may be involved in this instance.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
24.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @24.1.2    6 years ago

It isn't difficult to make the connection.  But here you go...


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Examples of the effects of the JIM CROW LAWS.
Both white students and black students participated in this, and they were harassed for it, as seen in this picture from a 1963 sit-in.

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In 1877, a national Democratic Party compromise to gain Southern support in the presidential election resulted in the government's withdrawing the last of the federal troops from the South. White Democrats had regained political power in every Southern state.[4] These Southern, white, Democratic Redeemer governments legislated Jim Crow laws, officially segregating black people from the white population.

Oh the good ole days for Democrats are rearing their ugly heads again.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
25  bbl-1    6 years ago

The "I don't really care--do you" event simply faded into a black hole.  I wonder why?

Beer?  Corona Extra.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
26  Ender    6 years ago

I had a little nit pick thing about our so called news. Probably shouldn't post this....

I decided to watch both MSNBC all night, then I watched fox news after. Their whole line up.

MSNBC basically talked about the children of the border all night.

That I could understand, what they seem to be passionate about. Though it does get monotonous and it seems to be their agenda.

fox news talked all night about how evil the Democrats are. How they want to cause harm. How they will do anything they can to hurt people and they just don't care. How they are going to cause violence to erupt. Etc. hannity called CNN fake news several times.

That I don't understand and it is their agenda. To demonize the so called other side.

Lets just say after watching both, I can see the side the hate emanates from. Right now they are still talking about how the poor president is being wronged by the evil left.

My take on watching two sides of a coin on one night.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
26.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ender @26    6 years ago
Probably shouldn't post this....

Absolutely should post it... It's exactly the kind of short-short that has it's place here. The topic is... whatever.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
26.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ender @26    6 years ago
two sides

It is such a pity... Nowadays everything must be between two sides.

"Bothsidesism" is intellectual nonsense, an abandon of intellectual honesty in favor of simplicity. "Both sides do it" is either stupidity or dishonesty.

"Both sides do it" is obviously an intellectual joke, because it begs the essential question, "to what degree?".

"Both sides do it" reduces everything, all topics, to a binary "yes or no"... and that is obviously not how the world actually operates.

Anyone who says "Both sides lie!" is being either stupid or dishonest... or both... How often does each side lie? If one side lies 10% of the time and the other lies 90% of the time, then "Both sides lie" is a very misleading "truth". The person who practices "bothsidesism" is dishonest, foolish, or a coward, not daring to face the consequences of actually working to learn whose lies are the more consequent.

Your TV sessions were interesting. On one "side" we discuss the plight of children. On the other "side" we discuss the evil of the other side. These two cases are not at all symmetrical. But hey! "Both sides do it!"

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
26.2.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson @26.2    6 years ago

Yes I gave up on televised news about thirty years ago and never bought into bothism.

I know only one side is willing to:

Lower my taxes

Protect me from the gun grabbers 

Reduce immigration and fight against amnesty for illegals

Rollback regulations

Balance the budget without raising taxes by fixing the broken entitlement system 

Look up to the financially successful and admire their accomplishments 

Fight against socialism 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
26.2.2    replied to  Dean Moriarty @26.2.1    6 years ago
Protect me from the gun grabbers

E.A May  I have Your permission to make a correction?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
26.2.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  @26.2.2    6 years ago

You can try, let’s see what you think it should be. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
26.2.4    replied to  Dean Moriarty @26.2.3    6 years ago
let’s see what you think it should b

E.A   Thank You::

 Should be :: " Protect me from the gun grabbers  that then will allow Criminals, Druglords, Pimps, and ALL sort of " Low life " to LORD it over Law Abiding Citizens as they " will be the Power that Wields the GUN "

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
27  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

A Brexit snippet from The Guardian:

Boris Johnson reportedly said “Fuck business” , before demanding (in print) a “full English Brexit”

  ... in response to which, Business Insider’s Adam Payne tweeted

In fairness to Boris, “fuck business” is a brilliantly succinct summary of the Conservative party’s Brexit policy.
     — Adam Payne (@adampayne26) June 23, 2018

Ouch!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
28  Buzz of the Orient    6 years ago
A very tired nurse walks into a bank, worn out after a tough shift.  Preparing to write a check, she pulls a rectal thermometer out of her purse and tries to write with it.  When she realizes her mistake, she looks at the flabbergasted teller, and without missing a beat, she says:

"Well, that's great....that's just great..........some asshole's got my pen!" 
 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
28.1    replied to  Buzz of the Orient @28    6 years ago
"Well, that's great....that's just great..........some asshole's got my pen!"

                                         !@#!@#!@#

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
29  lennylynx    6 years ago

A coward, a bully, a moron, a liar, and an asshole walk into a bar.  Bartender looks up, says: "What'll it be Mr. President?"

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
29.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  lennylynx @29    6 years ago

d29734c8123948ee8b9ff13322a7e262.gif O-o-o-o-o-o.................. Harsh!!   

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
30  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

Hey, TiG??

What is this:

Testing the new Issued Ticket panel for members [TiG]    violation.png?skin=ntNewsTalkers3

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
30.1  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @30    6 years ago

A functional test.   Please disregard for now.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
30.1.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @30.1    6 years ago

OK. That's what I figured, but I thought visitors here should know...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
31  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

From Gizmodo:

Feds Bust Over 35 Suspected Dark Web Vendors, Seizing Everything From Drugs to a Grenade Launcher

The Department of Justice announced on Tuesday the “first nationwide undercover action to target vendors of illicit goods” on the dark web, the portion of the internet only accessible via specific software like the Tor network. According to the DOJ, the operation involved at least five federal agencies and entailed Homeland Security Investigations agents posing as money launderers, leading “to the arrest and impending prosecution of more than 35 Darknet vendors.”

The DOJ claimed the operation resulted in the seizure of “massive amounts of illegal narcotics,” over 100 firearms “including handguns, assault rifles, and a grenade launcher,” $3.6 million in currency and gold bars, and cryptocurrency with an “approximate value of more than $20 million.”

The dark web is in fact mostly full of low-effort garbage , but it’s acquired a sinister reputation over the course of the past few years for its association with criminal enterprises like black market auction and e-retail sites trafficking everything from drugs and guns to ransomware . Other dark web hubs have included child abuse rings . But such networks are only as secure as their weakest links. In the past few years, authorities have more than clued on to dark web enterprises and have infiltrated and shut down major networks like onetime giant Silk Road and its upstart competitors AlphaBay and Hansa .

Per Vice , tactics police have used to bust dark web black markets have included undercover infiltration, malware, IP harvesting, monitoring cryptocurrency transactions, and simply intercepting shipments. In the case of Hansa, authorities actually secretly took control of the entire operation and rewrote its code to harvest instead of encrypt user data.

The BBC reported in 2017 that criminal activity on the dark web tends to simply fan out to other sites after takedowns of high-profile markets. While Europol adviser Alan Woodward told the news network “sellers believe they are relatively immune,” he added it is possible repeated high-profile busts have freaked out buyers who have to provide “delivery addresses and the like.”


The Dark Web, the Dark Web, the Dark Web.....

It's everywhere! It's today's deus ex machina for every lazy screenwriter.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
32  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

The National Trust for Historic Preservation has posted America's 11 Most Endangered Historic Places for 2018 , including:

11Most_2018_PicotteHospital.jpg Dr. Susan LaFlesche Picotte Memorial Hospital
Omaha Indian Reservation, Nebraska

Named after the first Native American licensed to practice medicine in the United States, and believed to be the first hospital constructed for any Indian reservation without federal funding, the Memorial Hospital is currently unoccupied and facing an uncertain future.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
33  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

From Autoblog :

Tariffs could cost American consumers $5,800 per vehicle

auto-alliance.png An automotive trade group said on Tuesday it would tell the Trump administration that a U.S. threat to impose a tariff of up to 25 percent on imported passenger vehicles under national security grounds would cost American consumers $45 billion annually, or $5,800 per vehicle.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, a group representing General Motors, Toyota, Volkswagen, and other major automakers, will file written comments with the U.S. Commerce Department later this week, spokeswoman Gloria Bergquist said.

"Nationwide, this tariff would hit American consumers with a tax of nearly $45 billion, based on 2017 auto sales. This would largely cancel out the benefits of the tax cuts," Bergquist said, previewing the comments. Consumers would also face higher costs of imported auto parts when buying vehicles from both U.S. and foreign automakers, she said.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
34  author  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

From The Truth About Cars :

JP019_104CHqrajsi21jqe134g6es7fvu4r8s__mid1.jpg While you still hear people throw around the slogan “American Made” quite a bit when it comes to automobiles, the phrase has grown increasingly meaningless. Even if something is built within the states, parts for it will stream in from across the globe. Other times something may not even be built within the country. For example, the iconically American Dodge Challenger is assembled in Brampton, Ontario and has its 5.7-liter Hemi engines shipped in from Mexico. That’s not a slight to the vehicle, but you just know people have slapped a “Buy American” bumper sticker onto more than a couple of them.

However there are models that still have the majority of their bolts tightened within the United States and that means something to some shoppers. If you’re one of those, here are most American cars you can buy in 2018.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
35  Trout Giggles    6 years ago

Does anyone here watch the night sky? I've been getting up at 2 AM because I can't sleep and I go outside to enjoy my lilly trees and a smoke. There's a bright orange star in the Southeastern sky and I wonder if it's Mars? Does anyone know?

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
35.1  arkpdx  replied to  Trout Giggles @35    6 years ago

The weather gueser on TV this morning said Saturn was visible. He also said the moon was going to be a strawberry red. Then he said it didn't really matter because this is the Pacific Northwest and it was going to be overcast tonight .

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
35.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @35    6 years ago

There are "sky map" apps for smartphones. You point the camera at a part of the sky, and you get the biggest stars' names on the screen.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
35.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @35.2    6 years ago

I got to get that app

 
 

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