Almost two years ago Trump called for a total ban on Muslims entering the United States "until we can figure out what the hell is going on". Has he figured out what the hell is going on yet?
The SC ruled today that Trump's travel ban is constitutional. But in current events it seems almost anticlimactic.
But, after two years of studying on it, has Trump and his team figured out what the hell is going on yet? Enquiring minds want to know.
He said the ban would end once he figured out what the hell is going on. We're still waiting.
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It really shouldn't have taken him two years to figure out what the hell is going on.
What is even funnier is that so many Democrats are STILL freaking clueless--yapping on and on about some mythical Muslim ban!
Not at ALL!
Lol - mythical? Even when Donald Trump personally calls it a Muslim ban, his blind followers refer to such as a myth.
Answer this one, simple question:
With or without the SC ruling, were Muslim immigrants from Canada banned from the US?
If you answer yes, it isn't true.
If you answer no, then there is proof it is not and never was a Muslim ban.
Just in case you have been misinformed--asking a question is definitely NOT answering my question!
When Trump himself refers to it as a Muslim ban, then his intention is to deny Muslims entry to the US. That is a pretty simple concept. If he could ban Canadian Muslims, he would. The problem is that not all Muslim looking people are Muslims. Instead, he just bans entire countries entry because they have a majority Muslim population, and are thus in his mind potential terrorists.
So NO MUSLIM BAN--as I stated and the SCOTUS decision CONFIRMED.
You need to try something else--you are striking out on three straight pitches in the dirt.
So we’ve come to the new reality where Trump supporting morons hear words come out of Trump’s mouth, and then openly deny that the words they heard actually were spoken. Got it.
The SCOTUS just said it was NOT a Muslim ban.
Present your weak shit to THEM.
In 2 1/2 years why hasnt Donald Trump got his shit together and made it to the point where he doesnt need to ban Muslims? He said that the ban would only last until someone figured out what is going on. He said that when his "extreme vetting" was in place the ban would end.
Just how incompetent is he?
Trump wants to permanently ban people from these countries , and many others, from immigrating to the United Stares. THAT is what this is all about.
Okay, where in the EO does it say PERMANENTLY ban?
Where does it even say anything about Muslims in the EO?
Why would a sane, rational individual believe in a Muslim ban when there are SO MANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES NOT INCLUDED????
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Y'all are hilarious.
Did the federal government ban all pesticides when it banned DDT?
Because THAT is the kind of (hell, I can't even honestly call it logic)thinking you seem to be employing here.
Good god. He started out saying he wanted to ban all Muslims. That wasnt flying past the courts so they went back and reworked it, then reworked it again since it failed the second time also.
Bannon and Miller want only whites to be allowed to immigrate to the US. They have preached this to Trump, and that is where they want this to end up. Will they succeed? I hiope not but the future is yet to be written.
If Trump wanted to allow Muslims to enter the US he would have figured out "what the hell is going on " over the past 2 years. He would have put individual "extreme vetting" in place. He didnt do either of those and so he keeps his blanket ban. Watch, now that the court case is over they will try and expand the ban to others.
he never had a Muslim ban for the courts to rule on. it never existed, except in lunatic minds of some.
Where is the extreme vetting for INDIVIDUALS, which Trump promised? NK and Venezuela were added to get it past the court objections. Thats all that was. When you ban everyone from a country or set of countries it is a blanket ban. This is only the beginning. The plan is to end all non white immigration to the US. Remember where you heard that.
You are too easy.
TRUMP’S NEW TRAVEL BAN ATTEMPTS TO PROVE IT’S NOT ANTI-MUSLIM
It doesn't matter what site I linked to, I could find other sites to say the same thing. It's what happened. Trump started out only banning Muslims and when that fell through he added more and more of this and that to pass the court test. It is still basically a Muslim ban
Chad, majority Muslim - Iran, 99% Muslim - Libya, 96% Muslim - Somalia,(Islam is the official religion of Somalia) - Syria, 87% Muslim - and - Yemen 99% Muslim-
Whatever his intention was, he didn't end up writing an executive order to achieve that. Instead, he only banned people coming from particularly dangerous countries. As it happens, most of those countries have a lot of Muslims in them. A couple don't. The ban doesn't touch even 90% of the world's muslims, so if he was planning on a Muslim ban, he clearly abandoned that idea and did something else.
FFS, that's like saying if Trump banned Cubans he really banned all people from a freaking ISLAND.
There was never a Muslim ban.
the thought of such is fucking ridiculous.
The Trump regime had to rewrite their ban something like 3 or 4 times because it kept getting blocked by the courts. This ruling is on the latest version, not the original one.
And it still deserves the same sort of apology which the Korematsu ruling needed.
Ok, you provide real PROF that any of Trump's EOs were Muslim bans, and then we'll talk. Show me where in any order he banned MUSLIMS.
Instead of bleating a bunch of nonsense--prove your alleged point. Show us all where Trump banned Muslims.
That's certainly what the lower courts found about the earlier variations of Trump's EO, but of course they actually bothered to look at the complete context in which those EOs were made......including the repeated statements made by Trump and his co-conspirators that it was a Muslim ban. SCOTUS chose not to look at that context or those statements.
In case you haven't heard the good news, the lower court rulings were struck down. The SCOTUS has ruled. Maybe SCOTUS actually READ the freaking order and saw that in NO WAY were MUSLIMS banned.
Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!
As Sotomayor noted in her dissent the court deliberately did not do so despite the overwhelming evidence that unconstitutional anti-Muslim animus was a principle motive. Looks like the court used an entirely different standard here than they did when they gave the bigoted baker a pass.
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They were actually made moot by Trump's DOJ rewriting the EO 3 or 4 times to make it barely constitutional. I wonder though whether SCOTUS would have permitted the previous 3 versions of the EO to stand or would they have struck it down like every other court did?
Whining STILL?
Been a pretty bad week SCOTUS-wise for liberals and Democrats!
And now, the unthinkable for Democrats has happened--another Justice to be replaced by TRUMP!
LMFAO!
Hey, John, let's play a game!
What is the value of a MAJORITY decision by SCOTUS?
What value does a dissenting opinion hold?
Majority--settled case.
Dissenting opinion can be written by anyone not agreeing with the majority, and carries NO legal weight.
Sotomayor can stuff it.
Sounds like the only proper thing to do would be for the Dems and the small handful of ethical GOP senators to block Trump's nominee until after the next President is sworn in.
I say GO FOR IT!!
STOP yammering about it and DO IT!
IF the Democrats somehow find their misplaced balls and even attempt this, I am willing to bet that the GOP will have a Senate majority after the election!
Might be very interesting to hear how Dems would spin doing EXACTLY what they have been bitching about the GOP doing for years now to their base.
this I know--Trump will have at LEAST one more SC Justice confirmed. Democrats are praying it isn't more. Better get some life support lined up for Ginsberg.
Obviously, but that doesn't change the fact that Sotomayor was correct when she noted that the court majority purposely ignored the Trump campaign's and Trump regime's stated purpose that the EO was a "Muslim ban". And Roberts' ruling states thatg they didn't reach the 1st Amendment claims. So it's 100% clear that you haven't even read the ruling much less read the dissents or the concurrences which also state that the court chose to ignore the context. And as Kennedy noted the ruling is actually a remand for that kind of issue to be considered:
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So the end result is that this case goes back to the 9th Circuit where they will consider in depth the numerous Islamophobic statements which your Glorious Leader has made.
Back to the Ninth Circuit?
Got a link for that?
I haven't seen where SCOTUS returned the case when they ruled on it.
LOL.....sounds like you don't even know what "remand" means, and it's abundantly obvious that you didn't even bother to read the ruling since Roberts ordered a reversal and remand. All you have is talking points which you're apparently regurgitating from ignorant right-wing sites. Maybe you should educate yourself before you comment?
Remand means the SCOTUS will tell the lower court how it was in error and to fix their mistake.
I merely asked if you had a link. Either you do or you don't--but no need to get all pissy with me.
This case was about whether the injunction should be lifted. The case is now remanded to the district court in Hawaii for full consideration of the merits of the case but as Sotomayor noted the court majority made the same grievous error as the Korematsu court and also left the lower courts very little latitude. It will take a future SCOTUS to repudiate this ruling just like this court (laughably) repudiated the Korematsu court while simultaneously recycling the same erroneous logic. The Roberts court will forever be known as Korematsu II.
Apparently he's incredibly incompetent when it comes to all issues related to immigration or travel. Trump's DOJ said they only needed a 90 day ban to "figure out what the hell is going on", yet they haven't been able to figure it out in the more than 2 years a ban has been in effect. They must be both dumb and incompetent.
And now they're having children as young as 3 represent themselves in court for their own asylum cases.
Is that why India, Indonesia and Egypt are NOT on the list? By the way ... if it were a "Muslim ban", why are North Korea and Venezuela on the list?
Too funny!!
predictable and it was
cheers
I will take that as a vote that Trump hasn't figured out what is going on yet.
no one cares what you think john... have fun with it.
USA v2.0 will not be stopped
cheers
Is that a code name for trumperika ?
Two years ago Trump said that once his "extreme vetting" process was in place the travel ban wouldn't be necessary.
Was Trump's "extreme vetting" process an utter and total failure? Why has it taken a year and a half and counting to get "extreme vetting" in place?
it is the destruction of the liberal world order.
when trump is done doing what we asked him to do? not one leftwing pillar will be left standing.
seems to be working just fine... and now? it will get even better.
Cheers
So it doesn't concern you that in two years Trump has been unable to figure out what the hell is going on? Got it.
trump knows whats going on... LOL
liberal tears, anger, and depression.
Cheers
and he starts doing things YOU dont like, it will be too late to stop him. So Good luck.
I'm always reminded of the pied piper when thinking about trump's ONE man at the top policy.
The town was happy to let One man take care of the problem till HE didn't get what HE wanted then HE turned on the town. So good luck with this one man solution.
time will tell.
I know who trump is and that is simply not going to happen.
but you keep dreaming your little dreams.
I will catch yall again later... I'm spending the day surfing
cheers
In other words you have no clue why it is two years later and trump still doesn't know what is going on. Extreme vetting is not in place yet. Gotchya.
Gee, I remember so many on here whining how it was a "MUSLIM ban" and how we told all of you that it was WELL within the rights of the President of the US to do what Trump did.
trump played the liberal press like a fiddle. (that is what happened)
never going to happen.
enjoy
How ? Do you know him as a democrat or a republican ? This man changes faces daily.
Once again, I say Good Luck.
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PS: I'm from Florida where this is what we call surfing: But, have fun playing in the water today.
open borders are a pillar of which I spoke and the left and it just got firmily shoved up their behinds.
all of your other complaints pure bs
trump is not silencing the press he is only criticising the press. it is the left who tries to silence opposing thought. and that has been an epic fail as well... yall need to get your shit together... LOL
He's been busy blowing non-Muslim dictators.
"Supreme" Court just said he did know what was going on.
Real Life can be a Bitch huh !
No it didnt. It said he has the authority to do this even if he doesnt know what is going on.
Yes it did !
Until October....dontchyaknow !
happens all the time here.
You lost me here .. it would appear that Congress has sacrificed its abilities to pass legislation .. I get the impression [from Congress] that it is excessively difficult and takes an extremely long time, so why not just use the Presidential pen for a quick fix and congress will get to it when they are ready....
I could be wrong...
Trump said that the travel ban would end as soon as the people running the country figured out what the hell is going on.
He has been running the country for a year and a half and we still have the travel ban, so.....
Kind of what Chucky Schumer said, huh?
Well, that simply means more to rebuilt from the 'ruins." Right?
Which Travel Ban # _ succeeded in court? Details can be disturbing. . . .
The SCOTUS ruling confirms what many of us have been saying all along--there is NO MUSLIM BAN.
Is that so hard to accept?
You hit this issue dead-center. We were warned that Trump was going to put conservative judges in position to block Liberal progress in the Courts! Gorsuch is one such dude.
Conservative Judges, true to form, are treating the Constitution like a static document. Consequently, courts are saying don't look to them for leniency go back up to Congress to change laws: Make it hard for us. Observation: Do you notice that these Justices are not setting precedence with their decisions? Why is that?! Because they know there is a lot of sloppiness borne out of Congress' inaction and the White House!
Laziness kills. It is pass time for liberals to put their votes where their mouths are!
I don't care about a Muslim Ban or Travel Ban. I'm good, Texan. Bet.
I am simply watching the courts with subtlety tell liberals to get off their duffle bags and go create the change liberals want see in Congress. And in that they are right. Afterall, Justice Gorsuch is populating a coulda*shouda-been liberal justice seat: BUT MCConnell! Slicked it! That old dude created the change conservatives wanted to see on the Court.
Well, Schumer said legislation is too hard, so liberals' best bet is to elect a new President and hope some conservatives retire from SCOTUS.
Liberals, Independents, and Republicans can amass together and vote Democrat in November mid-terms! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!
I'll Wear A Clown Suit and Full Make-up in New York's Time Square on Election day In November - if it will get rid of DE© Trump and his trunk full of henchmen. What Time You want Me to Show For FOX NEWS, Love?
Hmmm....maybe THAT is an explanation for the pink pussy hats and people screaming at the sky!
yes they can. yes they can. Yes they can.
Sounds like a campaign slogan!
Ain't going to happen, though.
You stand a better chance teaching hippos to fly.
Good luck with that.
HA!
DEPARTMENT OF OOPS!
That should read, DJ© Trump and his trunk full of henchmen.
In the words of the late, great Samantha Stevens, . . .
First, let's get it straight right up front.... I'm not your and you're not my "love".
You closet types really need to step out and embrace you’re inner self. This is a safe space.
Impossible, for a plain yellow pumpkin to become a golden carriage.
Impossible, for a plain country bumpkin and a prince to join in
Marriage,
And four white mice will never be four white horses!
Such fol-der-ol and fid-dle-dy dee of course, is--- Impossible!
Impossible things are happening every day .
I think you are conflating two separate issues
one is
the other is
shithole countries with shithole govts which do not keep adequate records or cannot be trusted to provide truthful records for any kind of vetting no matter how extreme... in other words... it might be 50 yrs before some countries get their shit together enough to get off the list. and yes I think trump is smart enough to understand that... are you?
with one difference... that vid is actually me. not one I found online.
have surfed every ocean on the planet. including the atlantic (including florida)
this is me also. (australia - west coast)
and this is my home town spot CC-TX
I reckon I have a fair idea what surfing is
Why did he have to rewrite the order 3 or 4 times? Is he really that incompetent?
Has he figured out what the hell is going on yet?
Absolutely not.
yepp and it is crushing the liberal open border dreams like a rusty tin can under foot
enjoy
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No one can tell the shitstain in chief anything and watch as (as someone else said) everything he touches - turns to shit.
Winning
Trump couldn't find his way to the limo right in front of him walking off the plane, which is well documented in video and by witnesses. NK is right back to their nuclear production and nothing is solved on any issue, except the desire to inflict cruelty by locking up children and using them as pawns.