CNN’s Jim Acosta Challenges Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Then Makes a Quick Exit
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
The First Amendment guarantees the free press in this country our president calling it "fake news" and, the enemy of the People is not only wrong, it goes against the Constitution, something Trump has sworn to protect and, defend.
Jim Acosta, the square-jawed CNN correspondent, has stood out among the White House press corps for his impassioned on-air monologues about the importance of the First Amendment.
During a tense White House briefing on Thursday, he challenged the press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, to disavow President Trump’s description of journalists as “the enemy of the people.” Ms. Sanders declined to do so, saying she had been personally attacked in the media and had faced threats since starting her job.
Opinions on the exchange varied.
Many liberals praised Mr. Acosta for confronting Ms. Sanders, particularly after he had faced vitriol from Trump supporters at a Florida rally on Tuesday. Many conservatives knocked Mr. Acosta as a biased showboat. And some of his rival White House reporters rolled their eyes.
Mr. Acosta, a CNN veteran, is used to it.
Since last January, when the president-elect shouted him down at a news conference, Mr. Acosta, 47, has been a featured player in the Trump v. Media battle royale. The president, no fan of CNN, has called Mr. Acosta “a real beauty” and refused to take his questions last month during a session with reporters in Britain.
Ms. Sanders deflected — and then mirrored Mr. Acosta’s tone.
All that has made Mr. Acosta a ripe target for Mr. Trump’s army of adherents. This week, Sean Hannity of Fox News ran a montage of “Jim Acosta Lowlights” and called him “a liberal partisan hack.” In Florida, Mr. Acosta, who is regularly escorted to rallies by security personnel, faced hostile Trump fans who interrupted his live shot and shouted “fake news.”
That set the stage for Thursday, when Mr. Acosta, breaking from the usual sober style of White House reporters, framed his question to Ms. Sanders as a moral choice.
“It would be a good thing if you were to state right here, at this briefing, that the press — the people who are gathered in this room right now, doing their jobs every day, asking questions of officials like the ones you brought forward earlier — are not the enemy of the people,” Mr. Acosta said in his newscaster’s baritone. “I think we deserve that.”
“It’s ironic, Jim,” she said, “that not only you and the media attack the president for his rhetoric, when they frequently lower the level of conversation in this country.”
Ms. Sanders, without much evidence, went on to accuse the news media of using “personal attacks without any content other than to incite anger.” She also cited her experience at this year’s White House Correspondents Association dinner, during which the comedian Michelle Wolf mocked Ms. Sanders’s “smokey eye” makeup and compared her to “an Uncle Tom” for “white women.”
“You brought up a comedian to attack my appearance and call me a traitor to my own gender,” Ms. Sanders said. “As far as I know, I’m the first press secretary in the history of the United States that’s required Secret Service protection.”
Her answer did not directly address the question, so Mr. Acosta tried again, with more oomph.
“This democracy, this country, all the people around the world watching what you are saying, Sarah, and the White House for the United States of America — the president of the United States should not refer to us as ‘the enemy of the people,’” he said. “His own daughter acknowledges that, and all I’m asking you to do, Sarah, is to acknowledge that right now and right here.”
Ms. Sanders replied: “I appreciate your passion. I share it. I’ve addressed this question.”
At that, Mr. Acosta promptly walked out.
That's what is truly sad Ms. Sanders, you haven't.
She is lower than Donald Trump because she claims she's a Christian. She has absolutely NO Christian values unless there's power or money associated with it. History is not going to remember her kindly.
You really want to set out to be the judge of who is or is not a proper Christian? Who are you?
She is one of Trumps Two Corinthians, Mike Pence being the other.
Well I'm pretty sure it's not hard to see through her actions and words that she's NOT a Christian in the sense of how Christians like to portray themselves. But it sounds like she's your kind of Christian so that's great.
I'm agnostic and don't pretend that I'm better than others or that I'm saved. I'm going to hell and I'm enjoying the trip there.
Yeah - they're both kinda creepy.
I'm not a Christian but, I grew up in a Christian household, the first lesson that I learned was to follow this to the letter.
The next thing I learned, sometimes the hard way, was this,
Then there is always this one,
Everything that Jesus told his followers to do seems to have been, "Be more than human when dealing with others and, treat all people the way you would want to be treated, remember, I'm watching you." Because, Jesus did say this towards the end of his ministry,
And, they all said Amen.
Actually, she reminds me more of these folks.
PJ, don't be surprised if that proves to be untrue.
Do tell.
I'm pretty sure you hear what you want to hear.
The most important thing you could probably learn is that no one is following anything to the letter. People are simply not capable of that. That's why we need Christ.
I can’t argue with that. I’ve been told that I hear what I want to hear more than once. Lol
Then why do Rightwing Christians turn away from his teachings?
so basically they can do whatever they want, sin however they wish, and get a "get out of Hell free" card from Christ, right ? I'm not sure that's how it's supposed to work, but i'm definitely no expert.
Jesus even answered that one for those who think this way my friend,
It's a good read.
more interpretation and no concrete communication - i will have to eat more cracker jacks to get a new decoder ring
LOL.
She rarely does.
Did this ideologue disguised as a journalist really think the President's spokesperson was going to denounce the President?
Instead always trying to debate Ms Sanders, why not ask a valid question about the President's policies?
Why hasn't the Chief of the President's communications not informed CNN that Mr Acosta will not be called on?
It would seem that part of the presidents policies is that all news is Fake News, if it doesn't agree with whatever his line is for that day.
First that is not a policy. Second, if you follow the President's tweets as much as you claim, you would know that he qualified that statement to those who are clearly 100% biased against this President, as Mr Acosta is.
It says it at every interview, rally and, on every tweet. It's a policy of his.
Translation: He qualified it as a statement of anyone who says anything he doesn't like.
Twist & turn & scramble as you may, How the President feels about his opponents does not qualify as policy!!!
Translation: He qualified it
Thank you for admitting it!
And here it is for all to see:
President Donald Trump on Thursday said only "Fake News," not the entire media but a "large percentage" of it, qualifies as an "enemy of the American people."
"They asked my daughter Ivanka whether or not the media is the enemy of the people. She correctly said no. It is the FAKE NEWS, which is a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people!" he tweeted.
The president was referencing comments made by his eldest daughter , Ivanka, during an event hosted by the news website Axios earlier in the day.
Trump has referred to some of the most prominent media outlets as "Fake News" at one point or another, including NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Most presidents don't like the press but, this president has taken it to a new level, his followers are threatening journalists the more he uses his "fake news" meme. Just because he or, you don't like what is being said about him doesn't make it fake or, a lie.
Why are you posting that? Nobody, surely not Congress is taking away the freedom of the press.
Of course you are ignoring what the press is doing with that freedom. Their job is to seek the truth and that is not what most news organizations have been doing when it comes to Donald Trump.
On election night they told us that "America was crying"
The problem here is what you consider "truth."
It deserved to be said again.
'Twist & turn & scramble as you may, How the President feels about his opponents does not qualify as policy!!!'
'Trump has referred to some of the most prominent media outlets as "Fake News" at one point or another, including NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post.'
So he has referred to just about any news outlet or newspaper that has reported accurately what he has said as 'FAKE NEWS' Everyone but Fux 'news' as it seems as they kiss his ass daily.
The Press are not his opponents!
And they're not supposed to be his lapdogs either unlike Fux 'news'
- this moron said 'If I see 'em, I'm gonna shoot 'em'Perhaps it is time to take the advice of Nicolle Wallace and-----------ignore them.
Huckabee Sanders has an impossible task. Unfortunately she lacks the temerity to see or understand it.
And yes, 'the press is an enemy'---to lies, liars and fascism.
As it happens today was the first time I've heard one of the Trump regime's press conferences live. It was truly bizarre.
Every one I have seen was bizarre. She is usually kind of rude and condescending, never really answers any questions and leaves early.
And is still playing the fake victim card from Michelle Wolf's mention of her "smoky eye," which was not at all a derogatory slap at her appearance but a reference to the actual eye make-up Huckasuck uses.
More leftist misogyny.
Which pales in comparrison to the new rightists leader, trump.
"Women? You gotta treat them like SHIT!!!"
Donald Trump.
And you think your misogyny is justified because you've identified the same quality in someone else.
I liked Scaramooci a lot better than Sarah "downs syndrome eyes" Sanders. And Scaramooci is one of my followers on twitter, (no, not kidding).
It's Scaramucci, "the "Mooch"..............
Meh, I didn't feel like looking it up.
Don't insult those with down syndrome, they had no choice in how they were born and are caring loving people unlike the sad bitter daughter of a Southern Baptist preacher who makes a choice to defend the indefensible.
Hard to tell if she is evil , or , afraid of Trump and her father.
I think it could go either way.
maybe just realizing that she's unprotected to a degree that she's never realized or appreciated before....
She really comes off as a bitter, vindictive person.
'Enemy of the people': Sanders refuses to disavow Trump's claim about media
I watched the video of that presser and could hear Acosta continually interrupting her while she was trying to answer his question. That she did not answer it the way he wanted it answered is simply tough shit, Jimmy.
Since when is it acceptable for a reporter to try to shout down the press secretary during a briefing while answering the question you tendered?
Simple answer here. It's not acceptable. He should have his credentials revoked-he is a reporter, not the story.
Sanders looks the reporters in the eye... and lies to them. Are you really saying that they must be satisfied with "whatever" Sanders wants to feed them?
Really? She lies every day all day long.. LOL
Were her lips moving?
Yeah, he went to a rally where there were already a bunch of people in rally mode and they heckled him and his sad network. That's supposed to be terrible. But when Sarah Sanders and her family are getting harassed while out for a meal and chased from one restaurant to another, that's not such a big deal. That doesn't warrant the extensive coverage or the hand-wringing and pearl-clutching.
But no apology from Acosta. No disavowal of any unfair treatment she has received from his network.
He likes to forget that the people in that room are not there to cover Sarah Sanders. She's there to dispense information, not to be the story.
Self promoting drama queen. Dear Jim, no one gives a crap what "saddens" you.
Nobody harassed huckabee jr while at a meal.
When the press has to attend a rally and, needs Secret Service protection or, personal body guards provided by their bosses then yes, it is a terrible thing.
That would seem to be a personal choice on her part, she could chose to tell the truth when giving a press briefing. I bet if she did, she would be "harassed" any more.
It does if the people who are harassing the media are threatening them with bodily harm for doing their jobs.
Only one word for this, BULLSHIT.
Because she hasn't received "unfair treatment" from the press, you lie to the press and, get caught doing it, expect them to call you on it.
So, what was being said there without actually being said is, she believes that the press is the enemy of the people or, at least the enemy of this lying administration.
Then she should be willing to tell the truth when she is dispensing the "information".
Geez, use Google or read the news, will ya?
Prove it. Show me video where she or her people were harassed that night. Show me any other account besides huckster sr.
Seriously? I don't even have to argue her honestly level with you. It's not a thing - moral or legal - in America that we harass people over their honesty. Why doesn't it happen to Democrats? It seriously your contention that Democrats never lie? What a joke!
Says you! But who are you and what do you know? Nothing. She was talking directly to the reporter from the network she was accusing and he didn't deny it. That guy will argue any point but he wasn't going to argue that. And a whole room full of adversarial fact-checkers accepted it as true because they know it is.
What an obtuse interpretation. You just don't get it, do you. It's called a loaded question. She CAN'T respond to it the way he wants her to. You don't get why, though.
His question implies an interpretation of Trump's comment that neither Trump nor Sanders would agree with. The proper context is that Trump has repeatedly said he likes the news media but not when he thinks they are being fake or advancing their own political agenda. It's just dishonest to insist on quoting a phrase while ignoring the context.
Answering in the affirmative or the negative would have required Sanders to ignore context and also to let him set the agenda. No competent press secretary is ever going to do that.
Allow me to demonstrate. Answer yes or no: Have you stopped beating your wife?
It never happened, that was all fake news.. SORRY!
Can you make a pretzel too?
Look at the Twitter message Trump put up.
Show you video? Are you trolling me? Why must there be video? The owner admits she kicked Sanders and her party out of the restaurant.
The owner of the Red Hen explains why she asked Sarah Huckabee Sanders to leave
Several news outlets also reported that the owner and possibly others followed them to a second restaurant, but I don't know how true that is and I haven't seen the owner admit it. On the other hand, I don't think I have seen her dispute it either. If we hold her to the same standard you and Acosta want to hold Sanders to, maybe we should accept it as true.
Your caption, not mine. Thanks for making my argument for me.
Keep it up. You're doing great. I love to see that context included.
So because she was asked to leave that is harassment?
Good to know.
Funny when Obama said that people did not build that, people love to take that out of context yet trump is taken out of context...
I'm glad you are, since that is what Trump put in his tweet, it's his words, not mine.
Yeah. It's exactly the kind of harassment that Maxine Waters called for. i.e., To go out of your way to tell people they aren't welcome and make them so uncomfortable, they leave.
Seems pretty straight forward. The Sanders party wasn't bothering anyone. They were quietly dining. The owner wasn't even in the restaurant. When she found out Sanders was in the restaurant, she actually got in her car and drove to the restaurant to give her the boot after the restaurant employees had already started serving her. She was persecuted for politics and intimidated and pressured into leaving. Sounds like harassment as defined above.
( Deleted ) The restaurant owner spoke to her staff and they all agreed they wanted Sanders to leave. The restaurant owner then talked to Sanders privately and asked the lying cow to leave. Funny how no one but Fuckabee's lying father has said that the lying cow Sanders was harrassed. No harrassment whatsoever.
Go easy on Mike, Tessy, it must be tough when you try to have a child but have a warthog instead!
The whole family is disgusting. At least Sanders, one of her brothers, and her lying sack of shit father. One son was expelled from the boy scouts for torturing a dog and then hanging it from a tree. I think it was the same son who was stopped in an airport for having a loaded glock in his carry on luggage. Daddy had the boy scouts business of torturing and killing the dog swept under the rug.
Please Lenny, Tessy and, Tacos, let's stick to the subject of the article and, not re-litigate the restaurant thing.
What does my comment have to do with the restaurant, do they serve warthog there?
It was an easy way to include you, you were going off on a portion of the Huckabee story that was in a different seed, the boy scout thing and, the dog thing, I don't want this seed derailed because of that or, the restaurant, you want to talk about that start another seed about it.
For example?
You need to stay on topic Tacos and stop derailing Galen's seed
That was Actually said by you ? deleted
(I await my TICKET)
You accused me of lying. I asked you to prove it. And I'm the one derailing?
You know what? I apologize! I did not appreciate that you were this funny. Well played!
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Fair enough. Where was I? Oh yeah! Acosta is a bully.
Jim Acosta is a self-centered prick and he tried to bully Sarah Sanders on national television. She doesn't owe him anything. She is not his puppet.
First, he wants her to say the thing he wants her to say and makes out like that's all he wants. But then he'll want her to say something else. And every day it will be a new thing. He doesn't get to dictate to her what she should say and when she should say it. He's an asshole and a bully.
To add to this despicable situation, you better believe that if the politics of these people were reversed, the media would be saying the same thing I have said here. Instead, they are all silent and complicit.
Acosta behaves like a whiny, bratty, toddler when he's told to wait in line, wait to be called on, or STFU and is just another in a growing list of sore losers who suffer from TDS and TAD.
Lol, its funny when you try to project Trump's derangement outward! TDS is exactly what Putin's puppet suffers from. He's gone batshit the closer Mueller gets to him. Remember that time he said 'no collusion, no collusion!'? I think it was the day before yesterday, when it changed to 'collusion isn't a crime and everybody does it'. And let me guess, you believe the biggest liar in the country?
No, she is the press secretary to the President of the United States and, when that president says that the press is "the enemy of the people" then she should tell the truth and, say that they are not the enemy and, the president should be forced to come out and, admit he was totally wrong.
What, you can't admit that your hero, Trump, has said on more than one occasion that the "press is the enemy of the people"? Say it, I know you want to.
Sure, it's his job to get information from the press secretary and, it is her job to give that information.
Of course it will, that's the thing about the news, it wouldn't be the news if it was the same old thing.
Why not? She works for the American people and, he's one of them, whether you want to believe it or, not.
How do you know what politics Acosta follows or, his bosses follow? I bet you can't tell me what any journalists politics really are.
Actually it's really easy because in many cases they donate money to candidates and that kind of thing is a matter of public record when it's over $200.
Journalists shower Hillary Clinton with campaign cash
This study reveals that of almost $400,000 donated to 2016 presidential campaigns, some 96% of that money went to Hillary Clinton. 430 journalists donated to Clinton. About 50 donated to Trump.
So? Journalists aren't allowed to have personal opinions or, political points of view unless the coincide with yours? How many billionaires and, millionaires donated to Trump, how much NRA money went to Trump and, the Republicans?
That's likely because educated and informed people tend to be liberal. Other than people who work for StormFront, Breitbart or Fox, what "journalist" would donate to the racist King of the Birthers?
Uh . . . read your own comments. You challenged me to tell you the politics of any journalists. All I did was demonstrate their politics by showing you records of their donations. I never said they couldn't have opinions.
I don't care why it is. I was asked to prove that it was true and I did.
Acosta should simply have observed that the true enemies of the American people are the traitorous Trump regime and its Russian masters.
One thing that has been put forward by some journalists is that what should be done is send out one AP pool reporter and, one AP camera man to cover all of Trumps speech's from now on and, simply use clips from them on anything important on the news, everything else like his inflaming the crowd about fake news should hit the cutting room floor.
That sounds like a really good idea. Deprive the regime of the oxygen it thrives on.
Yep, deprive the Depraved.
The media brought this on themselves as well as the country. The Trump campaign was bizarre and unusual, they pointed cameras at Trump everywhere he went and they broadcast every second live.
In the past, real journalists would examine the events of the day and present a summary of the really significant stuff to the audience. But in 2016, thanks to the 24 hour news cycle and a thirst for ratings, CNN and their colleagues kept the Trump Live-cam on 24/7/365 just in case he said something shocking. Consequently, even though there were 16 other Republicans running, America barely had any idea who they were.
Absolutely no one else in either party got the kind of free air time that Trump got.
Soooo, "it's all the medias fault damn it, they shouldn't report the news, especially when its about a candidate I like and, espouses my views." and, then we have this, "The media shouldn't tell everything the president says simply because he says it, damn it, I mean just because he says racist things and, lies better than a Persian rug, that's no reason for the media to plaster it all over the air waves, who do they think they are, the news?" Victim blaming, just don't fly here.
Yeah, how dare the media report the truth. When Rump says it's fake news, we all know it's true
When ?
They should report the news. That's what I'm saying. Pointing a camera at Trump for hours at a time is not news.
He told the media he was going to make an important announcement. So they all showed up to hear the announcement and ran the event live. It turns out he was opening his new hotel in D.C. He spent the better part of an hour making a big show of being friends with lots of military people. It was great optics for Trump, but no big announcement. Tons and tons of free TV time. Nothing "news" about it. This went on throughout 2016.
Every time Trump made a speech, the whole thing was shown live on cable news. Were other candidates making speeches? Of course, but you'd never have known it.
Victim? The press is a victim?
OK, then you explain how Trump got elected. Meanwhile you're welcome for the free education.
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Yes, it is. When the press has to attend Trump rally's with body guards supplied by their company's or, a Secret Service detail because of the vitriol spewed by Trump at his rally's because the people there see them as some kind of threat, then they are victims.
LOL, now there is news about it, except you wouldn't know it because of all the coverage Trump gets for the lies he tells about the media and, everyone else. Let me show you,
Yes they are indeed victims of Rumps fake news lies. One Rump supporter's threat was played on air about two journalists: 'if I see 'em, I'm gonna shoot 'em.'
what a poor excuse for a poor excuse
I hate to break the news but...
nothing in the constitution says a president can not criticise the press for its lies..
By all means list all the fake news CNN has posted? I mean, it's all fake news according to trump, so you should have no problems at all coming up with say...50 fake news stories that CNN has posted?
Ready?
GO!
Here's 10 quick ones.
Here's a few more including contributions from MSNBC.
CNN spreads fake news about Trump in Japan, MSM runs with it
Um, no, those are not fake news stories. Fake=100% false. Being inaccurate isn't the same as pushing something that is FAKE. Example? Pizzagate...the creation of alex jones. THAT'S fake news. No news agency is 100% perfect and accurate all the time.
The claim that everyone is fake news, except fox news, is laughable and down right dishonest.
Try to remember, the first thing a cult leader does is tell you that everyone else is lying to you. Weird that trump says that all the news media is fake....except fox news. News flash....it's not everyone else that is wrong, it's trump that is wrong and he spreads more fake news than anyone.
Did you watch the video? I understand reporting things that you were given false info on. Like hands up don't shoot.
however blatantly lying like saying it was illegal to view the Wikileaks files. That's fake news.
getting caught feeding your "focus group" what to say is fake news.
selectively editing a video to make it sound one way and not what was actually said is Fake news
selectively editing a photo showing president trump dumping fish food and acting like he did something wrong is fake news.
if they don't want to be called fake news then maybe they should stop producing fake news.
If you want propaganda that's fine. Doesn't change the fact it's propaganda though
You mean like the fake PP videos?
I can tell you that's not Trump's definition nor is it the definition of anyone who uses the term. But if you insist that it's not fake unless it's 100% false, then we can go to Politifact and get all those "Mostly False" ratings for Trump turned into "True" right?
First of all, it wasn't his creation. He spread it, for sure, but he didn't create it. Are you fake news now? It's 100% wrong that Jones created the story.
On the other hand, Jones was not 100% wrong on the story. The Pizza place is where he says it is, so maybe it was just a mistake, huh? Maybe he's not fake news after all.
My point is let's not be so pedantic about it. Fake News as it's being used these days is a spectrum. It's not a hard line where truth lives on one side and lies live on the other.
Exactly. I guess you thought it was a gotcha moment. Yet, not everyone is one side or the other. Fake news and editing happens everywhere. Yet people seem to get offended when you point out all the times news sites like CNN do it.
He more or less asked if Trump is a fan of Joseph Stalin, and her answer was, eh probably.
It doesn't go against the constitution. You can call it poor taste... but it isn't unconstitutional until he tries to have them arrested
Maybe he's just waiting for this to happen,
How long do you think it will be until Trump advises his supporters to "punch reporters in the face"?
Trump supporters are being attacked... and the media is partly to blame. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
The media needs to stop their agenda driven reportig if they dont want to be called on it.
LOL, isn't that like blaming Sarah Palin for the attacks on Democratic HQ's before the 2012 election? What did you folks say about that? Oh yeah, she isn't responsible for it, well, the media isn't responsible for the attacks on stupid people like Trump supporters, maybe, Trump and, his supporters should take a long look in the mirror.
That response is why I refuse to consider the lefts opinion on It anymore. The media along with the left have demonized and made it acceptable to attack people who don't share the same beliefs. People have been attacked because of the rhetoric from the left and the media. And the left shrugs it off. Well when someone attacks a journalist I'm going to have the same response I've heard from left wing people regarding attacks. "They shouldn't have antagonized them. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences." When a journalist is attacked I guess that will just be a consequence of their rhetoric
So, you would find it alright for journalists to be attacked for doing their jobs, here's a little history turned current news for ya,
By the way, another way to say this is "Fake News", sound familiar?
Again. If they don't want to be called fake news maybe they should stop pumping out fake news with an obvious agenda? Freedom of the press doesn't mean freedom from being called out for being fake news. Like when they posted a cropped picture of trump dumping fish food into a pond for some BS story about him killing the fish? Or how about the ground breaking journalism of trump putting ketchup on steak?
Anytime some despot wants to get rid of unfavorable press coverage they shout Fake News or, Lying Press, to hush up the news reports and, to turn the people against the news about them, that is the point here Silent. Every president all the way back to Washington hasn't liked the press, Trump is the only one to come out and, call them the "enemy of the people", that is hyperbole and, you know it, if it wasn't for the press we wouldn't have found out about the Nixon/Watergate connection or, Iran/Contra or, yes, Clinton/Lewinski. What Trump is doing is wrong and, we shouldn't, as Americans, stand for it.
Never saw that, it must have been on an internet site, I don't look at the stories on them.
I thought that was funny, really, I've done that to very flavorless steaks myself, it didn't effect the way I think about him, to me it just showed he was human and, not as stuck up as some rich people are.
Again silent, if Trump is innocent and, there's nothing for him to hide, why is he so bent on discrediting the Mueller investigation and, the media? If he's innocent he should let it play out, if there's nothing to find he should let it play out but, he doesn't, that makes me think that maybe, just maybe, there is something there.
I'll freely admit their COULD be something to the investigation. It would be asinine to believe one way or the other from our position. If there is something there then something needs to be done. I just don't think there is anything there. If there was two years almost in... it would have been out by now imo. There could be though as I said.
That could be why trump is pissed about it. It could also be he is pissed because he knows nothing is there and it's just being done to obstruct him.
Again. Not saying there absolutely isn't anything there. I don't know.
I agree it has been used by despots. However there are too many examples of the news intentionally lying and editing to make trump look bad. The fake news moniker isn't completely unearned.
This was the fish food story. Who they initially tried to spin it as they were feeding the fish by spoonfools and trump being an idiot just dumped all the food in endangering the fish. What they didn't show was Abe dumped his out first and trump followed suit. They were called on it and corrected it. They intentionally did a hit piece out of bias. Fake news.
Along with intentional spinning of facts to push an agenda
It took a year to find out that anything was wrong when Nixon was president, then it took another two years before there was enough for articles of impeachment to be drawn up on him and, that was without Congress trying to hinder the investigation and, one of them taking information to the White House to share with the president. Iran/Contra took six years to investigate. I know it's frustrating but, you have to have patience with these things, I'm sure Mueller will let us know when he's ready to do so but, he won't let anything leak in the mean time, if he can help it.
Ya think? He's a control freak, he has to control the message and, Mueller is hiding the information from him and, he can't stand it.
Obstruct him how?
Right here you dispute your own narrative, CNN according to you retracted the story so, it isn't "Fake News" anymore, if you continue to talk about it then it never dies.
The other two stories looks like something that happened under Obama and, in Trumps early days as POTUS, the Obama story's can end up making money for the U.S. while the Trump story falls back to his tax cuts which take away revenue and, add to the deficit and, then on top of that Trump adds more to U.S. spending which of course adds to the deficit.
Obstruct was the wrong word. Burden him would be better. Having to spend too much time dealing with that and not working on stuff he wants. Along with politicians holding out on working with him hoping something is there and he will be gone. I agree you have to have patience on these things. But with Nixon it was 6 months or so before people were charged. Nixon himself took longer. It's been two years and all we really have now is manafort for stuff that happened years ago and it's lookin like he may get off.
IF mueller ends this and nothing comes of it with trump. I'm calling it now that many on the left will say mueller is just protecting the seat of the presidency. People will not accept there was nothing there after they have been ensured by the media he will be gone.
they retracted the story after being called on it. Just because they corrected it doesn't change the fact they initially intentionally misled the public on it. They look for any way to try to do a hit piece. Along with things like when they were caught feeding questions and answers to "focus groups". If you manufacture public responses and questions under the guise of "unbiased panels"... that again. Is fake news at best. Propaganda at worst
Really, all we really have is Manafort? Are you sure?
Oops, seems there's a little bit more there, there.
It's called being responsible, something Trumps favorite "news" network can't say with a straight face.
You don't know that they "initially intentionally misled", that is an assumption on your part and, Trumps. Stop drinking Trumps Koolaid.
Again, you don't know this, I could say the same about FAUX Noise. We do know that Alex Jones and, Breitbart lie all the time though.
I've just looked for anything on CNN "feeding focus groups" the answers and, what I got was a bunch of Right Wing sites with the story, not one reputable news source carried the story. That to me, makes the story you believe real fake news.
"It's not lies if they correct it when called on it"
lamo.. ok
and yes. I do know their initial intention.
they had the entire video of the fish food incident. They intentionally zoomed in on just Trump and cut any footage that showed Abe dumping the food before trump.
there is no way to spin it. They intentionally mislead the public by editing footage. They were there for the entire incident and still edited the footage to fiththeornbias. Tha The is the definition of fake news. But because they slamtnleft you are ok with it. Perhaps you should watch 1984 again and do some self reflection?
How about explaining what this is? I know it's important but some of the words aren't in the English language.
Trying to rewrite what I said to fit a different meaning isn't cool. When a media source makes a mistake in their reporting and, then corrects that mistake it is not lying, it is making a mistake. What lying is, is when the president comes out on national television or, in rallies and, says the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt and, his son never met with Russians to get dirt on Hillary and, his national security advisor has no ties to the Russians and, his campaign manager had no ties to Russians and, that no one in his campaign met with any Russians at anytime and, that he is the greatest president ever. We can prove all of this is a lie and, we have more times than I can count.
Trying to interpret here: 'fiththeornbias' - 'edited the footage to fit their own bias?' (which is nonsense by the way) 'But because they slant left you are okay with it. 'slamtnleft' slant left? I cannot speak for Galen but I don't believe he slants left.
Must be typing with his toes.
You're right, I don't slant left.
He could be, I've never tried it so, I don't know how my toes type.
Makin a mistake is not having all the info and then correcting it. They had all the info. They were there. They recorded the whole thing. Then they intentionally edited the tape to show something that wasn't true and they knew wasn't true. That is lying and fake news. Not sure how you can spin that.
If I video tape you and someone tries to swing on you and you finally defend yourself and hit the person. Is it lying if I only show the part where you hit the person and write a story saying you assaulted he person. Did I make a mistake? Or did I intentionally slant the story even though I had all the information?
When you have all the info and don't report it all but cherry pick. That is fake news