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CHARLIE KIRK, CANDACE OWENS HARASSED BY PROTESTERS

  

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Via:  jasper2529  •  6 years ago  •  125 comments

CHARLIE KIRK, CANDACE OWENS HARASSED BY PROTESTERS

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Conservative activists Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens were harassed by protesters at a Philadelphia coffee shop Monday morning.

Kirk and Owens are best known for organizing thousands of conservative student activists with the group Turning Point USA, which Kirk founded.

Footage shared by Owens Monday morning show a man pouring a drink on Kirk.

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Protesters chanted “No More White Supremacy” at Owens, who is black, and Kirk, blew whistles and yelled in a megaphone.
Police can be seen attempting to protect the two and escorting them from the scene.


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Jasper2529
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1  seeder  Jasper2529    6 years ago
It appears that Rep. Maxine Waters’ (D-Calif.)   call to harass   conservatives and Republicans while they are trying to live their lives hasn’t fallen on deaf ears.

Protesters can be heard shouting on a megaphone, blowing annoying whistles, and essentially calling Owens and Kirk “white supremacists.” No word on whether the protesters recognized that Owens is a black woman.

Here are the videos where Owens alleges that “Antifa” attacked Kirk and her [videos in article linked below]

As you could see, one of the protesters threw some kind of liquid on Kirk as they were approaching the restaurant. Some protesters were chanting something about attacking the “bourgeoisie,” which is very telling on what beliefs these protesters subscribe to.

Whatever the case, it’s not okay to attack someone for having different beliefs. Kirk and Owens were there to eat breakfast. What makes shouting epithets at people okay when two people are merely trying to eat the most important meal of the day? What makes it okay in any case?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Jasper2529 @1    6 years ago

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Jasper2529
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Jasper2529
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3  seeder  Jasper2529    6 years ago

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Jasper2529
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4  seeder  Jasper2529    6 years ago

Special thanks to the radical "in your face" Left - especially Antifa, Maxine Waters, and Cory Booker! 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @4    6 years ago
especially Antifa, Maxine Waters, and Cory Booker! 

I think you left out Grover, Bert and Ernie. deleted

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  Tessylo    6 years ago

Well if they can't take the heat they should get out of the kitchen. 

No one should have poured a drink on that guy though.  I imagine that's assault 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @5    6 years ago
they should get out of the kitchen

What kitchen? These are just ordinary people trying to eat breakfast. Why do people have to harassed and assaulted in a restaurant? Is that treatment you crave for yourself? Do you want angry mobs screaming at you, shouting in your ear with a bullhorn, or throwing mysterious liquids on you when you're just sitting down to eat breakfast?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5.2    6 years ago

They are not "ordinary people" . Candace Owens has been all over the media putting on an act where she pretends to be a convert to conservatism after learning the great error of her previously progressive ways. She whored out whatever slim integrity she originally had in order to become a right wing media darling. I am not as familiar with Charlie Kirk but I'm sure it has to do with him becoming a "conservative" celebrity who can cash in on books and paid speeches. These are not people particularly worthy of anyone shedding a tear for. 

Like I said, as long as they are not hurt. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    6 years ago
They are not "ordinary people"

The heck they aren't. They are private citizens, not elected officials.

These are not people particularly worthy of anyone shedding a tear for. 

Standards of peace and justice apply to all people or they're meaningless. How would you like to be surrounded by a mob like this? How about if the cops refuse to answer your call for help because they don't like your politics?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.2.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    6 years ago
Like I said, as long as they are not hurt. 

So people are not entitled to their Constitutional rights unless they agree with you.....

Thank you for clarifying.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5.2.2    6 years ago

If it was Rosie O'Donnell entering the restaurant and people got in her face it wouldn't bother me either. As long as they are not harmed or prevented from going where they want to go, it is what it is.  If the "harassment" keeps up inordinately over a period of time it might be more questionable, but one time? Not a big deal. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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5.2.5  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    6 years ago

If Rosie O'Donnell entered any restaurant there wouldn't be room for anyone else to be in the building much less get close enough to harrass her

 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.2.6  lennylynx  replied to  arkpdx @5.2.5    6 years ago

Trump's fatter!  deleted

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    6 years ago

Yup Candace is just another sell out to the 'conservatives'

 
 
 
Rmando
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5.2.8  Rmando  replied to  lennylynx @5.2.6    6 years ago

If you factor in height I bet Rosie has more girth.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.2.9  lennylynx  replied to  Rmando @5.2.8    6 years ago

Ok Armando! Happy

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.10  Skrekk  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.7    6 years ago
Yup Candace is just another sell out to the 'conservatives'

I suspect there have always been black folks who've acted as apologists for racist conservatives.

 
 
 
nightwalker
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5.2.11  nightwalker  replied to  Skrekk @5.2.10    6 years ago

Sure there's good money in it.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.12  Skrekk  replied to  nightwalker @5.2.11    6 years ago

OT, but this looks fun:

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.14  Sparty On  replied to  Jack_TX @5.2.3    6 years ago

Yep that's it in a nutshell.  

Agree with them or they will assault you with anything for yelling and spittle to sneak bike lock attacks from behind.

What ever happened to that pussy bike lock warrior by the way.   Anyone know?

 
 
 
JaneDoe
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5.2.15  JaneDoe  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.14    6 years ago
What ever happened to that pussy bike lock warrior by the way.   Anyone know?

Do you mean Eric Clanton? The radical professor? He was charged with 4 counts of assault with a deadly weapon and wearing a mask to evade identification. According to this video, he has a preliminary hearing tomorrow.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.16  Sparty On  replied to  JaneDoe @5.2.15    6 years ago

Nice!  

I hope they throw the book at the little turd.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.17  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @5.2.2    6 years ago

Great points.  Well said. thumbs up

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.18  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.7    6 years ago

Because African Americans can’t be conservatives because that is the beliefs they honestly came to believe based on the info they’ve personally considered.....calling one a traitor to their race or a sell out because you disagree with them is not acceptable behavior.  

 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.2.19  lennylynx  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2.18    6 years ago

Of course they can be conservatives.  Trumpism is NOT conservatism.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.2.20  Bob Nelson  replied to  lennylynx @5.2.19    6 years ago
Of course they can be conservatives.  Trumpism is NOT conservatism.

Clapping

Edward Brooke.....

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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5.3  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @5    6 years ago
Well if they can't take the heat they should get out of the kitchen. 

REALLY?? It's 2018 not 1958, Tessy. Candace Owens is a private US citizen who happens to be a black woman. Federal laws gave her and ALL blacks the right to enjoy a peaceful meal anywhere she wants without being harassed by a group of radical left-wing nuts.  

No one should have poured a drink on that guy though.  I imagine that's assault 

Correct. And yes, it is considered assault. Although offered the opportunity, Charlie Kirk showed class by not pressing charges:

Kirk said he was given the opportunity to press charges for the incident, but tells the Daily Caller that he has declined.
 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.3.1  lennylynx  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3    6 years ago

Candace is an Aunt Tammy!  Happy

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3    6 years ago

What does her being black have to do with anything?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    6 years ago

I don't agree with any violence toward these two. 

Beyond that I don't care if they are "harassed".  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago
Beyond that I don't care if they are "harassed".

Is it ok if you get harassed when you go out to a restaurant?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.2  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago
Beyond that I don't care if they are "harassed".  

No double standard there or anything.......

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.3  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago

I guess that if someone from here or another blog you may post on recognizes you and decides to get in your face, scream at you, blow whistles and just all around harass you, you would be ok with it...as long as you don't get hurt.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.4  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago
I don't agree with any violence toward these two.  Beyond that I don't care if they are "harassed".  

Double standard much?  Makes No Sense

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    6 years ago

I doubt this will get 1/100th the coverage and pearl-clutching that the Jim Acosta story got. Even though Acosta 1) went to the crowd instead of them coming to him, 2) was separated by the crowd from a fence, 3) probably had bodyguards, 4) didn't have things thrown at him and 5) didn't have anyone screaming in his ear with a bullhorn.

Heck, just last year a guy shot Republicans for being Republicans and we know it was because of the things he was hearing in leftist media. But it happened to someone on the Right, so they aren't bothered and Maxine Waters thinks we need to harass more people.

Now, when Maxine shot her mouth off, she defended it by saying she wasn't calling for violence. Of course the King of England didn't specifically call for the murder of St. Thomas aBecket either.

I will also point out that she wasn't talking about regular people, but that she wanted members of the Trump administration harassed. That's a smallish group, but it's clear that the wacky leftist mobs won't be making any such polite distinctions. The people in this story were not just harassed, they were physically assaulted and they aren't members of the Trump administration. They're literally just private citizens with known conservative political views and they were attacked on that basis.

So, it's clear that any conservative private citizen is a target and a member of Congress is cheering the mob on. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @7    6 years ago

So obviously you don't have a problem with death threats made to Mr. Acosta either and his fellow journalist.  

 
 
 
Rmando
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7.1.1  Rmando  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    6 years ago

"CNN sucks" isn't a death threat. It's a fact.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Rmando @7.1.1    6 years ago

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jim-acosta-april-ryan-getting-death-threats-because-of-their-reporting-on-trump

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Rmando @7.1.1    6 years ago

There's also this rmando:  

C-SPAN reports caller to the FBI after on-air threat to shoot CNN's Brian Stelter and Don Lemon

https://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/C-SPAN-reports-caller-to-the-FBI-after-on-air-13136594.php

 
 
 
Spikegary
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7.1.4  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.3    6 years ago

Threats vs. actual actions.  Neither are right, but the guy did shoot a republican playing softball becuase he was a republican and would have shot more if he could.  For those that don't understand the difference, there is no help for you.

 
 
 
Rmando
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7.1.5  Rmando  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.3    6 years ago

Death threats are unfortunately common against people on both sides. But I've yet to see a university have to spend $600,000 in security to protect a liberal speaker or see a CNN reporter leaving a news story for fear of their safety the way a Fox reporter had to leave the SCOTUS building while covering the nomination of Kavanaugh. I seriously doubt Acosta has ever been in real danger and I'm positive he enjoys getting more name recognition.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Spikegary @7.1.4    6 years ago

So obviously you're fine with these death threats against journalists.

Got it.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Rmando @7.1.5    6 years ago

So obviously you're fine with these death threats against journalists.

Got it.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Spikegary @7.1.4    6 years ago

So you have one instance against a 'republican', one.  He's alive.

How about the girl KILLED by a Donald Rump supporter at that rally in Charlottesville?

Always comparing apples to oranges.

FAIL.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.9  XXJefferson51  replied to  Rmando @7.1.1    6 years ago

Exactly.  CNN does suck big time.  

 
 
 
zuksam
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7.2  zuksam  replied to  Tacos! @7    6 years ago

I don't know why these people weren't arrested? Harassing People like this is not an exercise of Free Speech.Harassing people like this is disturbing the peace. Harassing people like this is Intimidation. Screaming through a bullhorn right in someone's ear can cause hearing damage and is Assault.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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7.2.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  zuksam @7.2    6 years ago
I don't know why these people weren't arrested? Harassing People like this is not an exercise of Free Speech.Harassing people like this is disturbing the peace. Harassing people like this is Intimidation. Screaming through a bullhorn right in someone's ear can cause hearing damage and is Assault.

Candace Owens was on Fox Business Channel this morning. Here's an update on what happened to her and Charlie Kirk in Philly:

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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7.2.2  GaJenn78  replied to  zuksam @7.2    6 years ago

I was also going to say intimidation..... :-) Thats exactly what it is

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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7.2.3  GaJenn78  replied to  Jasper2529 @7.2.1    6 years ago

I missed it! Thanks for the link!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8  Jeremy Retired in NC    6 years ago

It's sad when people have to resort to the tactics like this because they don't possess the mental capacity and ability to deal with reality.  Same garbage we see from the same people here on NT.  

I think I'm done with this site.  Too much whining by the left.  I haven't seen a real seeded article or original article here in quite a while that wasn't crying about the President.  TDS running rampant here.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    6 years ago

Donald Trump was never qualified to be president of the United States. It all stems from that. The Republican Party gutlessly allowed him to get their nomination. 

At the first GOP debate Trump got up there and clownishly started insulting everyone in sight like he was a two bit comedian at a low life comedy club. Why and how he survived even that spectacle is a mystery.  The president of the United States is a position of dignity, not a freak show. 

Rosie O' Donnell was on a cable news show this afternoon. She blamed the liberal interviewer and his compatriots in the news for letting this get this far, and she's right. All the media became enamored with their ratings and never vetted Trump in 2015 like he should have been vetted.  He is phenomenally unqualified to be POTUS. He is a life long crook, con man and cheat. The media glossed over and ignored it because of ratings. Disgrace on all of them. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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8.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump was never qualified to be president of the United States.

Neither was Barack Obama.  But let's be honest, despite the howls of hysterical extremists, that didn't go so badly.

And America will survive and thrive under Trump.  Hysterical screaming lunatics aside, the American people will succeed.  It's what we do.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.1    6 years ago
Neither was Barack Obama.

Obama is a hundred times more qualified than Trump. At a minimum. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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8.1.6  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to    6 years ago

Just a warning - I've been flagging off-topic comments whether they are posted by "right" or "left" wing members. Please discuss the topic. Thank you. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump was never qualified to be president of the United States. It all stems from that. The Republican Party gutlessly allowed him to get their nomination. 

And that is YOUR opinion.  If he weren't "qualified" you don't think Clinton wouldn't have made that public?  

At the first GOP debate Trump got up there and clownishly started insulting everyone in sight like he was a two bit comedian at a low life comedy club. Why and how he survived even that spectacle is a mystery.  The president of the United States is a position of dignity, not a freak show. 

You're correct.  The office is a position of dignity.  And Trump has been just that.  Standing up to anybody who opposes not only him but US citizens as well.

Rosie O' Donnell was on a cable news show this afternoon. She blamed the liberal interviewer and his compatriots in the news for letting this get this far, and she's right. All the media became enamored with their ratings and never vetted Trump in 2015 like he should have been vetted.  He is phenomenally unqualified to be POTUS. He is a life long crook, con man and cheat. The media glossed over and ignored it because of ratings. Disgrace on all of them. 

Rosie's opinion means as much as yours or mine.  They are just opinion.  In her case she has a platform that her ignorance can be spread to millions much faster.  Surely doesn't make her correct in any shape or form.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.2  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    6 years ago
I think I'm done with this site.  Too much whining by the left.  I haven't seen a real seeded article or original article here in quite a while that wasn't crying about the President.  TDS running rampant here.

As compared to the whining of the right, Jeremy...There are a number of ''real'' articles on many different topics, a couple posted right now. Yet I don't seem to see you commenting on any of them. 

You only get out of the site what you put into it.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    6 years ago

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Rmando
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9  Rmando    6 years ago

The leftists must be proud of the behavior of their fellow radicals.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.1  Tessylo  replied to  Rmando @9    6 years ago

Like John said, I don't agree with violence towards them.  I have no problem with them being "harrassed" either.  No big whoop.  

 
 
 
Rmando
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9.1.1  Rmando  replied to  Tessylo @9.1    6 years ago

Nobody on the left or the right does themselves any favors acting like a mob of jackasses.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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9.1.2  Spikegary  replied to  Rmando @9.1.1    6 years ago

Rmando, well said and true.

 
 
 
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Rmando
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10.1  Rmando  replied to  bbl-1 @10    6 years ago

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devangelical
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10.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Rmando @10.1    6 years ago

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JohnRussell
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10.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Rmando @10.1    6 years ago
Oh, okay. So if a group of fringe right wingers had shouted in Michelle Obamas ear with a bullhorn and poured water on her you'd be all right with that.

Michelle Obama has secret service protection based on her being the First Lady of the United States for 8 years. Get back to us when Candace Owens has accomplished something on that level. 

 
 
 
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Rmando
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Rmando
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10.1.5  Rmando  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.2    6 years ago

Being married to a guy who becomes president is an accomplishment? That's seems to be all Hillary had too. Candice Owens has accomplished a lot, especially in the face of pure left wing bigotry. It takes courage for her to stand up to leftists who think women and minorities who don't automatically regurgitate liberal talking points have a "special place in hell"- as Albriggt put it.

 
 
 
Rmando
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10.1.6  Rmando  replied to  Rmando @10.1.5    6 years ago

I mean Albright.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Rmando @10.1.5    6 years ago
'Candice Owens has accomplished a lot'

What exactly has this sell-out to the 'conservatives' accomplished?

 
 
 
Spikegary
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10.1.8  Spikegary  replied to  devangelical @10.1.1    6 years ago

Typical dismissive response not utilizing any valid thought processes

 
 
 
Tessylo
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Bob Nelson
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10.1.11  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.10    6 years ago
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nightwalker
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PJ
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12.1.2  PJ  replied to  nightwalker @12.1    6 years ago
You're so considerate

Thanks!  I try really hard sometimes to pay if forward.  chuckle

I wonder if there is a way we can immerse the whole United States in a bucket of really really cold water.  Maybe it could work on cleaning up the stain that Mr. Trump and his policies have put on the country.  

 
 
 
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PJ
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nightwalker
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13  nightwalker    6 years ago

ROFL

The first amendment allows you to have different views and even voice them without being arrested by the Government, but that's all. It doesn't cover meal breaks or anything else. It doesn't protect you from people who you get angry while spouting hate or other gibberish, except for direct assault. You want to push hate, you're going to get some back.

It's funny how many on the right are "letter of the law" on so many topics (when it's to their advantage) but feel free to read in SO many rights (for their convenience) in a law or amendment when it suits them, especially the first and second.

Of course, the first and second are short and in simple language and the rest are too complicated and long for a lot of people to understand. Or maybe some people loved their childhood so much they don't ever want to act any other way, like acting like a adult.

A good example and a well known old child comes to mind, nowhtmean?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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13.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  nightwalker @13    6 years ago
You want to push hate, you're going to get some back.

Clapping

 
 
 
Rmando
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13.2  Rmando  replied to  nightwalker @13    6 years ago

Assault is not free speech and people who make asses of themselves like mobbing two individuals having breakfast only reveal more about themselves than their targets.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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14  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

Both the law and common sense tell us that a person who voluntarily gets up on a stage is subject to heckling.

Candace Owens is free to say whatever she wishes... but then she is responsible for saying it. If she uses a bullhorn to speak, then she should expect a bullhorn coming back at her.

All speech carries consequences.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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14.1  Spikegary  replied to  Bob Nelson @14    6 years ago

'When on stage' are the key words.  If you want to have an exchange of ideas then have one in the setting of that exchange.  Harrassing people because you don't like their political beliefs when they are eating?  When did that start making sense to you?  Is it okay to dump liquids on you if I happen to see you having breakfast somewhere because I don't agree with your stated beliefs?  People keep broaching civilized barriers, eventually they will receive an uncivilized response.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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14.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Spikegary @14.1    6 years ago
'When on stage' are the key words.

Not at all... and that's not what I said.

Someone who speaks from a rostrum cannot expect to be exempt from blowback the moment they step down.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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14.1.2  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Spikegary @14.1    6 years ago
If you want to have an exchange of ideas then have one in the setting of that exchange.  Harrassing people because you don't like their political beliefs when they are eating?  When did that start making sense to you? 

Antifa is simply following Maxine Waters' and Cory Booker's orders.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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17  Perrie Halpern R.A.    6 years ago

People, I am putting out a general warning. The article is about public harassment. Please stay on topic.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
18  It Is ME    6 years ago

Candice puts out there that "Blacks" are better than they are told they are, and the Liberals call her a racist and a white supremacist apologist.

The "Left" has left "Sense" in the rear view mirror.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
18.1  GaJenn78  replied to  It Is ME @18    6 years ago

I agree, and if they don't tow the democratic line, they get labeled as a "token black" or "Uncle Tom", they aren't allowed to think for themselves without backlash from the D party. LBJ said that they would be voting D for 200 years because he signed the civil rights act. People are people and they are allowed to think the way they do, they shouldn't feel guilty for having a differing opinion, and they certainly should be able to eat breakfast/lunch/dinner without being harassed.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
18.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  GaJenn78 @18.1    6 years ago
they certainly should be able to eat breakfast/lunch/dinner without being harassed.  

Nobody else in those restaurants, wants to have that disruption of their meals going on either.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
18.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @18.1.1    6 years ago

Yeah it is annoying as hell.   Like parents who let their kids rail on endlessly in public places.   Both are just plain rude and it pollutes all our public spaces.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
18.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Sparty On @18.1.2    6 years ago

Took my wife to an "expensive" restaurant last weekend for a quiet little date. Parents came in with 3 little kids and were seated next to our booth. Kids were a bit rowdy so they gave them little tablets so each one of them could watch their shows in order to keep them quiet. The Fucking movies were loud (no ear pieces or headsets). I complained and they were REQUIRED to turn them off and control their children, or were told they would have to leave if they couldn't. They left !

LOVE THAT MANAGER ! thumbs up

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
18.1.4  lib50  replied to  Sparty On @18.1.2    6 years ago

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PJ
Masters Quiet
19  PJ    6 years ago

I am not a fan of public harassment.  With that said, this seems to be this duo's shtick.  They go around inserting themselves into an environment that would not be welcoming to their "message" for the purpose of a reaction.

It appears they received the reaction they wanted because now they are able to post it on youtube and other social media outlets and play victims.  

The worst type of reaction they could receive is indifference but the left struggles with choosing this option.  They are easily provoked.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
19.1  arkpdx  replied to  PJ @19    6 years ago
They go around inserting themselves into an environment that would not be welcoming to their "message" for the purpose of a reaction.

You are trying to tell me that they were trying to get a reaction from those in that store?  Did it ever occur to you that maybe,  just maybe,  the wanted to sit at a table and have some coffee and just talk to each other? 

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Quiet
19.1.1  PJ  replied to  arkpdx @19.1    6 years ago

You could be right but I guess I'm wondering how the other patrons knew these two did not hold the same views as they did........hmmmm

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
20  Colour Me Free    6 years ago

It is acceptable for a 'mob' [lack of a better term] to accost 2 US citizens in a public place having a meal and conversation?  Is this okay because they make speeches, or is this okay because someone does not agree with their view points..

At a venue, if the opposition wants to push back against the speakers beliefs, that is considered a protest .. in an individuals daily life, it is called harassment, perhaps even stalking and/or assault (?) … I sincerely find it difficult to believe anyone is okay with this behavior, what does it accomplish - outside of attempted intimidation through 'mob rule'.. If this does not accomplish the desired outcome .. what next?

I wonder if those doing the harassing see themselves as patriots?

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
20.1  lib50  replied to  Colour Me Free @20    6 years ago
I wonder if those doing the harassing see themselves as patriots?

Funny, that's what I wonder about Trump supporters going after reporters after Trump calls them 'enemies of the people'.  And Trump himself harasses anybody he decides is on his 'enemies' list.  Try fixing your own house before you bitch about others.   Trump supporters leave death threat messages, which is worse than a public call out.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
20.1.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  lib50 @20.1    6 years ago
Try fixing your own house before you bitch about others.

Good advice and a 2 way street .. I do not support Trump and he is not the topic - I said what I said, because that seems to be the new big thing, determining who is a patriot or not .. not having a tit for tat with you 

Have a nice day

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
20.1.2  lib50  replied to  Colour Me Free @20.1.1    6 years ago
he is not the topic

Harassment is the topic, one I specifically addressed with other examples.   Jesus.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
21  seeder  Jasper2529    6 years ago

This seed is temporarily locked, because I'm going out for lunch and cannot babysit this rowdy off-topic crowd. Thank you, Perrie, for your assistance this morning.

 
 

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