Cohen Pleads Guilty To Paying Off Porn Star On Trump's Behalf
Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, has plead guilty this afternoon, in a Manhattan court, to illegal payments to a porn star on behalf of a "presidential candidate" during the 2016 election, to keep her quiet.
The "presidential candidate" is Donald J Trump.
Potentially an extremely serious development for the Trump presidency.
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Awaiting the Trump spin.
Its already begun. Actually the way they are attenpting to spin it is by avoiding mentioning it. And by creating distractions.
As I mentioned, I regularly watch the news on MSNBC and Fox. Tuesday night I flipped back and for between those two channels-- I was curious as to how they'd cover the story. (Actually the two stories-- Cohen and Manafort!). Fox covered it by not mentioning it. Instead they showed Trump's speech which was pretty much his usual speech. Later I checked again-- Fox coverage was all about Hillary. (I got the impression that Hannity feels she's a terrible threat because he thinks she still holds a powerful position in the government that she's still in office!). Lots of coverage of Hillary on Fox this important news day! (Well, they also obsessed about Obama for a bit as well).
My guess is that they'll eventually find a way to spin Tuesday's 2 stories of Republican guilt.
Yep they're buying time till trump figures out what to tell them to do and say.
Its not truth till trump says so now.
My guess is that they'll eventually find a way to spin Tuesday's 2 stories of Republican guilt.
Actually there were 3 of Trump supporters in the news for wrongdoing--on the same day-- but the two bigger stories distracted us from another one-- that's three of Trump's supporters in one day! 8/21/2018:
Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) and his wife, Margaret, were indicted Tuesday after being charged with misusing at least $250,000 in campaign funds for personal expenses, the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced.
The indictment quickly led to Hunter being dropped from his position on several House committees, with Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) calling the charges against the three-term GOP lawmaker "deeply serious."
The California Republican is accused of using the funds to purchase trips to Italy and Hawaii, pay for his family's dental work, his children's tuition and international travel for nearly a dozen relatives, according to the DOJ. Thousands were also spent on "fast food, movie tickets, golf outings, video games, coffee, groceries, home utilities, and expensive meals."
Hunter allegedly falsified campaign records filed to the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to conceal the purchases by mischaracterizing the expenses as "'campaign travel,' 'dinner with volunteers/contributors,' 'toy drives,' 'teacher/parent and supporter events,' 'gift cards' for charitable donations, and 'gift basket items,' among other false descriptions," the DOJ said.
(More details HERE )
And this part is interesting:
Hunter, garnered attention by becoming the second member of Congress to endorse President Trump 's White House bid.
(Trump has an unusual concept of what it means to "Drain the Swamp")
Anyone know who the first member of Congress to endorse Trump was? And anything about him?
If you're curious-- here's the story.
Three strikes yur out. trump's promise of "The Best of The Best" really is a myth busted.
Draining the swamp sure has taken on a new meaning.
Rep. Chris Collins, a New York Republican, was arrested Wednesday by the FBI and indicted on allegations of securities fraud.
"While his guilt or innocence is a question for the courts to settle, the allegations against Rep. Collins demand a prompt and thorough investigation by the House Ethics Committee," Ryan said in a statement. "Insider trading is a clear violation of the public trust. Until this matter is settled, Rep. Collins will not be serving on the House Energy and Commerce Committee."
Collins' stock-trading activities came under scrutiny last year when it was revealed that the congressman recommended Innate to several colleagues, including Tom Price, the former secretary of health and human services. Collins was a board member of the company and was Innate's second-largest shareholder as of June 2017.
In October, the Office of Congressional Ethics determined that Collins might have violated House rules and federal law with his trading activities.
"Representative Collins may have also purchased discounted Innate stock that was not available to the public and that was offered to him based on his status as a Member of the House of Representatives," the report said. "If Representative Collins purchased discounted stock that was not available to the public and that was offered to him based on his status as a Member of the House of Representatives, then he may have violated House rules, standards of conduct, and federal law."
More of "The Best of The Best !"
sarc !
CNN: Cohen pleads guilty.
NBC: Manafort found guilty.
CBS: Hunter indicted.
FOX News: Look at the receipt from 2011 where Hillary didn't tip 15%
Tessylo I read and enjoyed your linked article this morning. Lots of grins over there. Thanks for bringing it up.
What was Fox News covering while Manafort and Cohen were in court?
This hilarious meme has some answers.
People on Twitter responded to the channel's reluctance to cover anything that looks bad on Trump into a very amusing meme.
Even the Food Network and Animal Planet get it right....but not Fox!
I know it's a joke but it's damned funny
Thanks for posting that. I tried to post the whole thing as a separate seed but it wouldn't let me!!!!
Hoping Trump is dumb enough to pardon Manafort who could them immediately be subpoenaed by Muller and have to testify with no Fifth Amendment option!
Shoujd Manafort refuse the subpeoa or to answer questions or to lie, he’d face contempt or perjury charges.
Go for it Great White Dope!
Still waiting for anything to do with Russian conspiracies.
So much for the Steele dossier.
Trump is not remotely qualified to be president of the United States. It wouldn't bother me a bit if he went down because of a conspiracy to commit campaign violations. He's an obvious scumbag. Stop defending this travesty of a human being Sean while you still have a chance.
He's not going down for a "conspiracy to commit a campaign violation" any more than Obama or Clinton did. This isn't taking money from the Chinese Government like Clinton did in 96, this is a very technical alleged violation.
The Clintons were huge on getting ND's from Bill Clinton's alleged victims. That was Hillary's job in 1992. Was every non disclosure they obtained reported as a donation?
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In coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office.
Sounds to me like he is saying that trump told him to do it.
Seriously Wally, I'm not a doctor. I can't help you with your delusions that Trump is a normal human being.
This is the supposed bagman of the Russian conspiracy. The man who taped the President and gave millions of docs to the Feds to pour through. all those crimes you allege Trump to have committed.
And this is it? Tell me you are not disappointed.
I'm sure he will. It's still a pretty technical violation, if it is one. I'd like to see any similar prosecution along these lines.
It's a felony and a federal crime. Downplay it if you like, but it's not a simple misdemeanor.
Where's the precedent of a Court interpreting the statute that way?
Cohen is hoping he can worm his way through this without completely flipping on Trump. I presume the prosecutors are not going to allow that.
You are in denial. You keep thinking all of this will blow over in a way that will prove favorable to Trump's re election. That is not going to happen. This is a snowball rolling down a mountain with Trump standing at the bottom in it's path.
Easy...John Edwards...they charged him with a felony for exactly the same circumstance.
Seriously? So you are going to keep moving the goal posts? LOL I mean, it was joust a couple months ago that the right was screaming that Stormy Daniels completely made the whole thing up and it was all lies. Now we are down to, "precedence"? Are you shitting me? One time after another, what has been reported about this, (by CNN no less), has been proven right, and trump has, yet again, been proven to be a liar.
Cohen was trumps PERSONAL lawyer for 17 years. He said that he was trumps, "fixer". And you are seriously going to spin this? Look Sean, I know you aren't dumb, you have GOT to see the futility in trying to defend this.
Here ya go, check out the last sentence,
Well, if Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty to this,. . . what else don't we know about Michael's sharing?
Is there any proof that they used campaign funds to make the payments? That is what Cohen admitted to today.
Well, Edwards was found innocent of charges the New York Times described as a "new and novel" theory so we have no idea what an appellate court would have thought about it.
And Edwards took million dollars from donors and gave it to his mistress. Trump repaid the "donation" with his own money.
The affair took place in 2006... Why did he wait 10 years to "donate" to Daniels.... Just weeks before the election? Can you explain that?
That depends, Cohen says that the two women were silenced to keep their story's from coming out right after the Hollywood Access Tape and, just before the election. Do you think with that evidence out there that Trump would have gotten the 72 thousand votes in three states that put him over on the electoral college, I don't think so.
He was found innocent of the charges because the donations came well before the election. In Trumps case the payments to Daniels and, McDougall happened weeks before the election so, the story's would have come out and, been fresh in everyone's minds on election day.
30 years of fascist propaganda and lies against Hillary might have played a part.
Duu.. The Check was lost in the mail ?
LOL... Somehow at this point that reasoning seems to quickly be losing merit.
Found innocent or escaped through a technical loophole that has since closed?
For an affair he never had?
I didn't know "Before" had a different meaning.
I suppose it depends on whom you are "Beforing" for ?
For funneling money to impact an election outcome:
the fraud election result,
going
down,
from election fraud via election finance violations..,
Trump could probably go down for violating
the damn Laws of Physics, asz hes violated about Everything, Everyone, and Everything Else, in one way or another
This cult of personality, still Jonesing for a Gym,
to burst in, with a pitcher of catching, not caught in the rye, though so seedy,
as he's only for the white bred,
but when you put all of your baskets in one Egg, obsessed about a wall,
how or who,
could of seen this fall, like
from a torrid autumn,
approaching rapidly, like a ground meating grounds, when meeting grounds
is where
Trumpp finds out how difficult of personality, physics can be, when you meet
Inertia
You do realize that the investigation was never about collusion, right?
ORDER NO. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE
2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS
By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:
(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States
Department of Justice.
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are
applicable to the Special Counsel.
.........
So Muller can pretty much do as he pleases..
That order? Signed by a republican, that was appointed by a republican that was appointed by trump.
Deal with it.
Did I ever say he couldn't?
You've been promising a Russian conspiracy. Still no indictments alleging one.
I don't recall ever promising you anything. I have been known to say that the investigation needs to continue.
Are you under the impression that the investigation is done? It isn't. Wait for the end, before you declare that there's no conspiracy.
Who's in the conspiracy? Not Cohen, Not Manafort, Not Papadapoulous, Not Flynn...
The progressives on this site have spent the last 18 months claiming all of them conspired with the Russians. Yet here we are and another alleged conspirator (identified in the Steele dossier no less) doesn't get indicted for conspiring with the Russians. You need conspirators for a conspiracy. Who's left?
Al Capone didn't get taken down for his mob activities. Yet we all knew what he was guilty of.
He got taken down. That is the important thing, no matter how it was accomplished.
The hell they weren't.
But according to the orange baby-man last night, that is what it's all about. He kept saying "collusion" like it was the word of the day
At least since January 19th 2017 anyway.
Before that....it was all hush hush....since Trump wasn't supposed to be in the "Picture" anyway. Hillary was the winner.
How times have "Changed" huh.
Do you ever write a comment that makes sense?
No...please don't answer that. My decoder ring is busted
YOU .……. opened the door .
I'm a Vampire after all, so all invites are welcomed by "It Is ME".
My comment made perfect sense to those that DON'T have short memories on "Where and When" all this "collusion" wording REALLY started.
make that your last comment to me....EVER!
You're a vampire all right....an intellectual vampire
Door OPENS again.
A big THANKS... from one of the living hosts !
I ams what I ams…... just "ME".
Four plead guilty and two convictions.
You are confused-- this trial was not about Russian intervention in the election, or allegations that Trump Colluded with the Russians or committed Obstruction of Justice.
Stay patient, Sean, it's coming.
Who cares, if he was involved in other criminal activity prior to or during the election then fuck him with a pitch fork, lock his fat ass up. A crime is a crime.
I hate to say and believe this but I do, If president trump did break laws, (and he probably at least had others do so under his direction, which I've always figured he may have) I still don't think he will lose the presidency over it. Seriously. Watch and see. I seriously doubt they find anything serious enough here to topple this president.
He's already too powerful.
Only the beginning.
People thought Nixon was too powerful to be taken down, too
True, Nixon resigned, I look for trump to fight. I'd say it's a little harder to take someone down whos fighting (especially someone to whom rules do not matter much) than it is to take down someone rolling over and playing dead like Nixon did.
trump fought long and hard to be president I doubt he walks away very easily if at all.
Trump has even thinner skin and a much more fragile ego than Nixon.
True but unlike Nixon, trump thinks he's in the right.
I doubt Trump even knows the difference between right and wrong. What's "right" to him is whatever serves his interests at the moment. That's why he can contradict himself from one sentence to the next and it's why he lies constantly. He's a sociopath.
and that's why I think he would fight and believe he is in the right. From my experience when someone thinks they occupy the high ground even if they are wrong they will dig in like no tomorrow.
Like you said trump seems to have a problem seeing what most of us consider right from wrong, hin his mind he Always occupies the high ground,
Until trump is ready I dont look for him to go quietly into that good night No matter WTF happens. Like you say hes a sociopath, he has little to no conscience,
The right can spin and dance all they want, at the end of the day? Trump has been incriminated by his OWN PERSONAL LAWYER, under oath.
And manafort guilty on 8 charges? Is it December 25th already?
Lets be very clear here. Cohen plead guilty to paying off two women, on behalf of trump, to keep them silent in an effort to affect a presidential election.
Very simply put? If Cohen is guilty of doing that, and trump knew about it, (and why would Cohen pay off women if trump knew NOTHING about it?), trump is as guilty as Cohen.
PERIOD.
Oh my goodness! I have to find this and post it for y'all: On CNN's Cuomo Prime Time 8/21/18 - Alan Dershowitz (of a recent book publishing to a conservative audience on Trump) is on my television trying to turn "true crime and punishment" into an academic exercise in real-time. Can a second contemporary book for a conservative audience be far off? Check this out:
When is enough; Enough already!!
CUOMO'S COURT 8/21/2018
Isn't that called conspiracy?
Well, that and, "lying".
I really don't think it should be against the law to lie to any law enforcement. They're allowed to lie to us
I love it, Rudy just said that Cohen is a liar and not credible. Pretty funny, he was honest and credible before the FBI raided his office.. LOL
He's praised many of his corrupt appointees and associates-- there are some amazing videos showing exactly the praise he had heaped on Omoroso, Jeff Sessions, etc, etc. (But when they said or did something he didn't like...he got real nasty, real fast!)
Today he stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election. If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?
John, can you imagine what McGhan has told Mueller? 30 hours of under oath testimony.... I bet trumps underwear look like a BMX track today.
The noose is tightening...
And the witches are burning!
WallyW, this one is JUST for you...
Benghazi: 4 years, 9 investigatons, (by republicans), an 11 hour long live tv under oath interrogation and 2 FBI investigations... Not one charge, not one indictment, not one guilty plea.
Trump/Russia: Less than 2 years, (by republicans), one investigation, trump never once answering even one question under oath.. 5 guilty pleas, 3 companies indicted, 109 indictments issued, Cohen implicating the POTUS today....
And let me guess... Benghazi wasn't a witch hunt, but THIS investigation is...
Keep telling yourself that. Trump is fucked. Accept it.
You forgot to add one lost election in your Benghazi account. If Crooked Hillary hadn't tried to cover up her illegal emails Comey wouldn't have written his letter ten days before the election. And it's all still Hillarys fault in the end.
Hillary lost because she was the only candidate as unlikable as Trump, she just had more of a history than fat fuck. And she is shit when it comes to PR.
I can actually agree with most of that.
I'm sorry... How many times has Hillary been sued for fraud? None. Zero... Trump? 3,500 times... Sorry, who was it you were saying is "crooked"?
Remember when trumpy said the whole, "Stormy Daniels thing" was all "fake news"?
OOPS.
Advice trump should have heeded...
If two people honestly disagree on what the truth is, and the prosecutor decides to believe one of them, he'll prosecute the other for perjury. It can be as simple as remembering something differently or not fully appreciating the point or context of a question. Why expose yourself to that risk if you don't have to?
And, if there is a tape of the conversation? Cohen has tapes.
Trump lies every day. Do you honestly expect that he has any credibility?
There is only one version of the facts.. PERIOD.
And FWIW, so does Omoroso...
(I wonder if there are people who have tapes as well...?)
You've been listening to Donald … and you sound as "conscious of guilt" as he does.
he may not, but neither does Cohen. Remember, this is the guy who said he would take a bullet for Trump. What happened to that?
So, you end up with two unbelievable witnesses. That's not going to work. They need hard independent evidence of a crime, and frankly paying off your whores to keep quiet is not a crime, especially when you're the candidate.
This thing with these women is even more of a nothing burger than Russia. Trust me, he's not going down over this.
Whistling past the grave yard.
Conservatives are twisting themselves into pretzels to defend this PoS. Clearly trump can do no wrong in their eyes. SMH.
Full stop. Just reflect on what is above—including your three words. Let that sink in now.
What's your point?
A sitting president without credibility. And you are okay with that, because you perceive you can get trinkets out of him? Trump is jumping the shark everyday now. Today, it is actually reported Trump, from his own lips, said that the country can not make it without his brain power guiding it, or words to that effect!
Imagine that! This country falling apart without Trump at the helm:
Where did I say was ok with it? You keep acting like I don't know what I said. I know exactly what I said and I stand by it. I didn't say anything about being okay with it and I don't know what you mean by trinkets.
It strikes me as a person with an enormous ego - something we have know about Trump for 40 years.
No. He's not the first president to say ridiculous shit.
Well, you clearly are okay with it. Just read your last comment. As to the (political) trinkets, if you do not want those-well, what else does a man like Trump have to offer you? Stop wasting energy. Own your spot in this discussion.
You keep trying to imply that there's something more to what I said that I need to admit. I wish you would stop trying to be clever and just say what you mean.
I haven't said I'm ok with it. It's only "clear" if I say it. I acknowledged his credibility issues all by myself without any arm-twisting by anyone. It's just a truth. That doesn't mean I approve.
By the way, other presidents, including the last one, were also full of shit on many fronts. I think Trump may be in a category of his own, though.
So what? What would you like me to do about it? Endorse impeachment? Why? Go back and vote for Hillary? She's as full of shit as Trump - or at least as much as would cease to make a difference.
That's deep.
A sitting president who racks up lies daily is not good for the country. You should discuss with us how to impeach him. He is no good. And, the liar has control authorization over nuclear codes. How is I pitching' now?
If you do not approve, you should be as concerned about a pathological liar having control over your life and the lives of everybody you know and love. That you appear cool and collected signifies you do not yet anticipate problems from a compulsive liar with control over our lives. Here is a tip for you: Your president is under a tremendous amount of stress! Time to worry. . . .
As for my being clever, it was clear to me what you 'said' and what it meant from the git-go. It ain't my, our fault, that your 'guy' is a dangerous liar with more power at his fingertips than he can handle or deserves. We are simply calling it out for what it is.
Oh, I agree. But on November 8, 2016, he was still superior to the alternative.
But impeach for what? Being a pig? Acting like a 7th grader? I don't want the bar that low.
I would love a president who showed honesty and dignity. But I'll sacrifice those things for policy. I would have taken virtually any other person as the Republican nominee. But when it became him or Hillary, I had to choose him. Not that it mattered. I live in California.
I have plenty to worry about in my own my life. I can't be worrying about nuclear codes.
Good luck with that. It won't happen, I think, but if it does, I hope you enjoy President Pence. Heck I would prefer it. I just don't think impeachment is good for the country unless you have a guy who's doing genuinely criminal shit while he's president.
I'll take it, If we could prove a president of the usa had the mind of a 7 year old I'd be all for impeaching the little twerp even though he got that far.
That's not setting the bar even low enough if ya ask me.
Trump Won, so far I see nothing impeachable, he's still alive and doing stuff through so one never knows what the future will bring.
Did you really write that? Family!
Trump is bogus. A sham. His policies have little to no "stickability." If I can be a tad gauche our president's little "get away" with North Korea's Chairman Jun just hit a rough patch with Jun signaling: 'No time to talk right now - working on my own beach-front 'managerie.'
VP Pence will get his come-uppance accordingly. One significant difference between Pence and Trump. Pence is not a megalomaniac. He will 'color inside the lines.'
I'm not following you. I didn't use the word family.
Think of your family! Someone besides yourself. A compulsive liar has the nuclear codes to this country. Think about someone besides yourself! Family. Us. The world.
I think about my family all the time. I just don't have a rational reason to be concerned about nuclear codes at this moment. There are many things of more immediate and probable concern.
How big is your bomb shelter? How deep? How long do you plan on sheltering? What's your food situation? Water? Air?
I'm just trying to get a sense of how serious you are about nuclear codes and family.
I am helping the republic get aware, stay on top of, and get beyond a real menace to America and the surrounding nations: President Donald Trump is a pathological liar on the world stage. We can not afford the political risks that one of his lies will cause international blow-back.
Our leader's worldview, at the least, should correspond to the same world and it truths that we inhabit. President Trump is in a different world many times. Seemingly, writing, rewriting, and overlaying his own menagerie! His lies are out of touch, he displays a lack of proper temperament, thus his actions are unstable.
Bomb shelter? Welllllll, in the event of that emergency, I guess I will have to try the vintage 'effort.':
More and more witches going down on this "witch hunt"....poor deluded orange conman traitor in chief.
Mueller is shooting witches in a barrel.
The campaign finance charge is probably the least of what he is pleading to. By itself, it seems likely he would have only had to pay a fine. It sounds ominous, but it's not such a big deal.
In 2013, the Obama campaign from 2012 was fined $375,000 for failing to disclose the sources of 1,300 large donations totaling almost 2 million dollars and other errors related to several million more dollars in donations. Nobody went to jail. They just paid a fine.
And of course, the press being the liberal partisans that they are, it wasn't a big scandal either.
He wasn't using the campaign money to pay off women, in Trumps case he was. Does the name John Edwards mean anything to you?
Not sure why that should matter.
Yeah it means: acquitted, mistrial, remaining charges dismissed. Good of you to bring that up.
Now, here's why I brought it up, it is a felony according to what happened in the Edwards case, which means that Cohen implicated Trump in a felony. Does High crimes and, misdemeanors mean anything to you?
Edwards was taking money from other people in excess of the limits, then he compounded the problem by falsifying documents and lying about the whole thing to investigators (and he still managed to get off!).
By contrast, Trump is accused of spending his own money on his own campaign. That's just not a crime.
Ummm, yes he did commit a crime. Let me explain. When Cohen made the payment through the LLC slush fund he asked Trump to pay the money back to it, Trump did and, when he did, that made the payments a campaign contribution which in turn put it over the amount allowed by law so, Trump accepted a campaign contribution over the legal limit, thus according the law, it is a crime.
. . . are inadmissible as substantive evidence against someone else in another case.
Could they be a problem for him politically? Sure. "High crimes and misdemeanors" are whatever Congress says they are. Given the current, and even possible future, composition of Congress, I doubt this will rise to that level. In a criminal case, Cohen's plea and words are useless unless they're offered as evidence of credibility.
Time to enter the world of reality.
I understand it will be painful for you.
The Pee Wee Herman rebuttal ...
Don't be so hard on yourself.
That's two Pee Wees in a row!
You still haven't figured out, I guess, that you're getting the level of discourse you have earned as based on your own comment.
Whether it's admissable or not, we know you aren't an attorney.
The real problem that's going to snap a bit of reality to you and many of the right is Cohen's going to sing...Weissellberg got immunity...now imagine that, the guy that has been in the Trump company longer than Donald in a very high position has his balls locked in a vise and is getting immunity....next, we have David Pecker also with his balls in a vise and singin' like Sinatra.
Cohen, Weisselberg, Pecker, McDougal, Stormy Daniels, and the NYS Attorney General which would also involve his kids too and he can't pardon them from that....Oh! And did I mention Weissellberg also ran the Trump Foundation?
He's about to resign....and get a good divorce lawyer!
LMFAO
And "whistling past the graveyard" is not?
Three for three … each content-free!
You still don't get it. My responses are as content-filled as your own.
I'm not terribly impressed with, nor do I care about what you think you know.
As if I care, but I don't have the credibility problem of changing my screen name to escape my bullshit....Ron.
I know I'm going to regret responding, but 1) I have no idea what that means and 2) Who/what is Ron?
Why, exactly?
It's more evidence that he's crooked as hell.
Has anyone ever doubted that?
I thought people were past caring.
Apparently the majority of congressional GOP members don't give a flying flip. Maybe soon they will see trump as the disaster that he is.
Meh. We're not anywhere near the conviction count for Clinton associates, and Democrats defended him fiercely. It's a bit laughable for them to try and take the moral high ground now.
Dude, you are into the whataboutisms? The clintons are history. Forget about them, there's nothing to be done to change the past.
You must be joking. I don't recall anyone ever colluding with a foreign government to win an election, paying off people to keep stories out of the news in order to win and then LYING constantly about the whole mess.
You are disingenuously counting Whitewater for which the Clintons were never indicted and which had exactly zero to do with any malfeaseance in the Clinton administration. Also, it should be noted that Obama's was the squeeky cleanest eight year administration in history with zero nada no zip ranking campaign or administration officials ever indicted for malfeasance in office. Here are the real numbers per recent administrations. Trump will beat them all...
"Disingenuous". The new code word for "fact that is inconvenient to liberal anger."
Indeed...the Clintons were never indicted.
Oddly enough.... neither has Donald Trump.
The inconvenient truths just keep rolling.
BTW...citing Daily Kos?...stop embarrassing yourself.
The numbers are correct. Why deny the truth? You really have no argument. So, you just deny deny deny...
You don't even have an argument. You don't even have different numbers or "alternative facts" in this case.
If the numbers are correct, it doesn't matter where the info came from. If you want to bash the source, that's fine, but at least post information that refutes what was posted......which we know you won't do because you can't.
How many have been charged or convicted for something that happened while Trump was in office? Any?
I mean, I know it's early, but so far, it's all been either Russians or something that happened before Trump was elected. In some cases a long time before.
His supporters were past caring long ago. During the campaign Trump claimed he could shoot someone in the street and not lose any of his base and he got a round of applause from them. The law means nothing to desperate, angry, bitter partisans who would prefer a white-centric Christo-fascist government to freedom, equality and democracy any day. Trump could just come out and pardon everyone in his administration and campaign, including himself, claim he had the power to do so, and his brain washed followers wouldn't even bat an eye. Republicans can just stop pretending that they support the constitution, laws, justice and freedom, they obviously don't and admit to as much by their support of this incompetent President.
You should know this, it is common knowledge. Mike Flynn and Rick Gates pled guilty to crimes they committed in office...
Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to serious crimes committed at the behest of Don "The Don" Trump.
Both of them pled guilty to things they did before Trump was sworn in as president. Now, for Flynn, it was a few weeks before Trump was sworn, but since the topic was "malfeasance while the president was in office" neither one of these counts. Not that I would hold Trump responsible for either one. Why should we?
If anyone is interested, there's an opportunity to Get Smarter Here:
As Michael Cohen pleads guilty, here’s the risk for Trump
Because he is flipping, which means he will be singing like a bird to investigators to save his own ass and if he knows anything else shady about Trump then investigators will look at him directly. Not exactly good news if you are fat ass.
Meh.
All of that presumes that IF Trump actually did anything illegal, he was smart enough to hide it so well that a former FBI director still hasnt found it yet.
There is exceedingly little evidence to support such a presumption.
I agree, presumably IF Trump actually did anything illegal, he was not smart enough to hide it.
It appears if he did and he tried to hide it, it wasn't hidden well enough because when the strings get really pulled, it sure seems like the president knew more than he let on. Time and time again ! Either that or trump really isn't very observant and didn't even vet his own personal puppet people worth a shit !
Either way this is certainly Not living up to be "The Best of The Best !" by a fiuckin long shot.
What's next ?
I suspect Mueller knows about Trump's conspiracy involving campaign finance fraud. He reads the real news rather than watching Fox.
Lets look at it another way:
1) The affair was in 2006, why did Cohen/Trump wait 10 YEARS to pay her off. Is the fact that the payoff was done just weeks before the election cycle all just some weird coincidence? Unlikely.
2) Who benefits from silencing these two women? It's not Cohen, it's trump that is benefiting.
3) Trump is a micro manager, always has been, to even suggest that Cohen paid these two women off without donny's knowledge is laughable. And then there are the tapes of Cohen discussing the payments with donny.
4) Cohen plead guilty before he was even offered a plea deal. Why would he do that? Because there is no question that he is guilty and if Cohen is guilty, so is donny.
5) Cohen was trumps personal lawyer for 17 years. The fact that donny and rudy are bending over backwards trying to discredit him speaks volumes. Then know Cohen has the goods on Donny and they know that donny is fucked.
The words "smart" and "Trump" should not exist in the same sentence.
To those who called me "snowflake" and continuously told me … "Trump won, get over it … "
HI!
Told ya' so. It's just a matter of time.
And once the Republican Trump-pimps in Congress smell the political liability … watch for the come-to-Jesus "bipartisanship" …
One thing for sure, republicans in congress all suffered a simultaneous spontaneous evacuation of their bowels today...
Out of all the BS Dems have thrown at the wall in hopes of something sticking this is the first legitimate thing I have seen that may have some weight. I'll have to read some more on it.
I have a feeling there will also be a lot more revealed about some of Trump's appointees in the near future...
This will be interesting.... as if trump paid her with his own money... even if not knowing where the money was going IF he truly just stayed hands off the finances....
the issue will benwith Cohen billing his hours worked to the campaign. From what I can see so far. Doing some more digging on how this may play out.
What throws a monkey wrench into things is how cohen is going down with it... as it seems he is not taking a deal to be a witness from what I can tell. Not excusing anything. Jusy trying to to wrap my head around how it may play out with what info I can find
Based on the audio tapes Cohen made we already know that's not true.
Good point. I guess the issue would be was trump paying him solely from campaign funds or was he also paying him personally AND did he know when he was getting billed. Could be a case of Cohen knowingly charging the wrong account. In which case it would be just on him possibly.
Which this wouldn't be an issue if trump had a separate lawyer for personal issues and paid from his personal accounts. As I said... not excusing anything. I'll wait until it plays out and see what other info comes out... but this is the first thing I've seen that seems credible.
Ok. After looking at some stuff closer this is going to be interesting how it plays out. Will still need more info BUT
It seems the worst of the charges were tax fraud from some years ago. Then a couple of campaign contribution charges.... which seems that usually ends up as a fine. I believe obama campaign got hit with one of the largest fines around 375k from what I can tell.
I'm going to have to wait and see this unfold more before I know if it is legit something going to happen. Too much weird shit going on to be sure... isn't part of cohens plea deal that he won't be testifying anywhere? Which seems weird if he was going to be used to tag trump in something.
why am I skeptical? Let's look at the past claims of people who were helping to take trump down
Bannon
omarosa
flynn
flynn jr
papadapolous
manafort
and now cohen.
While we have went from proof of
Russian puppet
Russian collusion
obstruction
to bow campaign finance law
Its possible... but excuse me for becoming skeptical of wolf
Any Trump appointee is dirty by definition.
It really doesn't matter too much how they rigged the financial scheme and laundered the hush money. No matter how you look at it there was a conspiracy which resulted in 1) an illegal corporate donation; 2) an illegal private donation in excess of $2,700; or 3) an unreported donation by the candidate himself.
Plus you have not just one of the co-conspirators admitting under oath to the crime, but you even have an audio recording where they discuss the conspiracy.
Given these facts shouldn't any judicial nominations be put on hold indefinitely until Trump is removed from office?
Yes but not disclosing has happened in the past. You realize obama was fined 375k for campaign contribution violations as well? Are his SCOTUS picks null and void? Hell Rosie O'Donnell got caught deliberately changing her name and address to hide she was donating more than she was allowed. Should she go to jail?
Cohen is going to jail for his tax fraud... the campaign violations are icing for him.
Again. I'll wait and see how this plays out. However I've gotten numb to "this is it!" Over exaggerations of people who HOPE this will cause him to get kicked out of office.
If it was that major I don't see mueller kicking it down to the state level.
It may be big... however I can't trust the people calling wolf all the time and it ends up being nothing.
I'll trust the investigation and whatever mueller declares and recommends...the arm chair lawyers keep making everything sound like every issue is life in prison
LOL. But Obama! But Hillary!
All of those were very minor civil infractions and had no criminal intent whatsoever, unlike what Trump and Cohen did. This clarifies the difference for those who watch too much Faux News:
So those are minor and unintentional bookkeeping mistakes, not the deliberate criminal conspiracy which Trump and Cohen engaged in and which was directed by Trump.
By the way, Cohen was just subpoenaed by the state of NY for his role in helping Trump commit tax fraud through his "charity".
Sigh.
It isnt about "but obama"...
its about precedent to determine what usually happens.
If trump used campaign funds he is screwed. If he used his own money it makes it a failure to report issue.
This wasn't a plan to funnel money to politicians from corporations that have landed people jail time.
There are "experts" as well saying it won't amount to anything.
Which is why I'm saying I'll wait to see if anything comes of it. If you don't hear about it anymore in a week......
again... how many times have we heard "this is it!!" Over the past two years?
Your experts are wrong,
The precedent is whether there was criminal intent and whether the amount is substantial.
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Both claims are true but that's clearly not what happened here even if Trump eventually reimbursed Cohen.
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Actually the audio recording the public has heard includes discussion of a shell corp to launder the money and we now know that there were a number of overt acts made to advance the conspiracy.
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The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine. Already quite a few key Trump campaign officials have been indicted, convicted or agreed to a plea bargain. And the latter group are now cooperating witnesses.
I'm watching this indifferent honestly. It seems I'm pro trump on this it is only because I'm not going to fall for click bait media who have claimed "this is it" for two years straight. I'll look at it realistically and not hopes and dreams bias.
Example. Brad smith the former FEC chair who helped write the regulations is on record saying it isn't a violation. Between him and Rachel marrow who do you logically think would have more weight on it?
This was closer than anything thrown at the wall so far...i would say you're putting your money on the wrong outcome though. All those indictments from campaign members were in regards to things well before the campaign. Totally unrelated. This was probably the first thing that was even remotely close... and it's a FEC campaign donation issue??
so we have went from Russian plant, to Russian collusion, obstruction, and now campaign finance is the one that is going to get him! You may not agree... but after all this time and that's all that's came out??...It isn't partisan to be skeptical. I still believe if there was anything major they would have gotten it out by now to prevent any major damage to the office of president. Going 2-4 years with trump making policy when they could have put forth evidence that was strong early would be asinine. If you had strong evidence of collusion and crimes would you sit on it for years or get it out ASAP so removal process could start?
Your trump U point may be better to look for the outcome you want.... if he used money from that would be substantial
edit: I was trying to find the forums for lawyers I was on earlier but lost it. It was surprisingly non partisan. They were discussing it legally and were pretty much United there isn't anything there from what we now know. Possibly more we don't know that could be huge. Relatively. I'll see if I can find it again. Just interesting reading their discussions on it
So what that Trump is a Russian agent; Bill Clinton got a blowjob!
This article is about Trump allegedly ordering Cohen to pay off two women. Russia has nothing to do with this.
Luv ya Lenny!
I get blow jobs and never had to campaign for POTUS.
If liberals think that 2/3 of the Senate will kick Trump out of office over this then they must've slept through 1998. The stench of hypocrisy from the Dems will irritate the voters now as much as the GOP members getting caught with their own mistresses did back then. Get ready for a slew of dirt to come out on sitting Dems about their campaign finances. Bob Menendez actually got a hung jury in spite of all the evidence on him and he's still in his Senate seat.
So what they've learned a new trick, just call anything slightly incriminating Fake News, say something really stupid and walk away. Problem solved !
"Republican Congressman Duncan Hunter and his wife, Margaret, routinely -- and illegally -- used campaign funds to pay personal bills big and small, from luxury vacations to kids' school lunches and delinquent family dentistry bills, according to a stinging 47-page indictment unsealed Tuesday."
"Republican Representative Chris Collins, of New York, the very first congressman to endorse President Donald Trump’s campaign, was arrested Wednesday by the FBI on charges of securities fraud, according to an indictment filed against him."
The dirt's coming out, but it's not on Democrats...
You do know that Trump hasn't even begun fighting back on this and just like the #MeToo movement this move will probably boomerang back and hit more Dems than Repubs. Just ask Al Franken and Eric Schneiderman.
Why would Trump be fighting to defend Republican congressmen's campaign fund abuse and insider trading charges?
The spin on fox is unbelievable.
One even said that he took a five year sentence and all he had to do was lie about trump.
Delusional.
not a chance.... trump did not use campaign money. and most every politician has done the same.
yall are going to need something bigger than this.
1) You know this how?
2) The affair happened in 2006....Why did trumpy wait 10 YEARS to pay for her silence....just weeks before the election?
We'll wait for you to explain that one... LOL
Hush money paid right before an election is considered a campaign donation. It would have been legal if the person's total donation to the campaign was $2,700 or less, but it was far more than that.
yall are going to need something bigger than this
I believe 'bigger' is coming. Lanny Davis has invited the Special Counsel to speak to his client. Cohen has knowledge/information, with plenty of time before his sentencing date, to tell all. His guilty plea today is the tip of the Cohen~Trump iceberg.
As Neal Sadaka sang...🎶breaking up is hard to do🎶🎶🎶
How about money laundering?
Former Trump aides:
Personal lawyer Cohen - (pleaded guilty)
Campaign Chairman Manafort - (found guilty on 8 counts)
Deputy campaign chairman and top transition official Gates - (pleaded guilty)
NSA Flynn - (pleaded guilty)
Campaign aide Papadopoulos - (pleaded guilty)
Orange conman traitor in chief only hires the best and brightest....Yeah right.
It seems the swamp is being drained, but I doubt this is what trump had in mind.
He probably thought once he had the power his people would be overlooked.
It appears president trump was wrong on more than one account.
Go figure that hiring tax evaders, con men, election contribution misdealings and meeting with russian government people would be considered part of the stinking bureaucratic swamp.
Who knew.. right.
You know what gets me angry is our resident republicans are sitting here playing hard to understand the truth when it is staring them right back in the eye-unblinkingly.
I was listening to 'El Rushbo' today (Ba Dum Tsshh!), as all these federal 'cases' were breaking, and a couple of regular patriots (Ba Dum Tssh!) called into the show; El Rushbo and these good men traded off carrying the Trump 'load' just a little farther today. Then, that's when it dawned on me. These people did not want truth; they want Trump-venom and warts galore!
That's when it hit me hard and fast: Trump is "family" to Trump supporters!
No doubt you were wondering "What is Michele Bachmann thinking right now?"
Yeah in a since. Some people get so "invested" in another person their own identity does seem to them to include their invested person being "acceptable" to the world as well.
I think it actually starts with the other person having the same ideology about some common issues or believes with someone who has power (whether real or perceived) and is willing (supposedly at least) to "Share" that power... O boy that sure is even more motive to defend their invested one.
It's like a cult mentality
Yep a "Family"
PS: Hint, Do NOT drink the purple trump aid !
No-- rather than Bill and Hillary it should be George and Martha!
And what about Herbert Hoover? And President James Polk?
William Henry Harrison?
Grover Cleveland (and his mother-- anyone who would name their kid Grover is definitely a left wing Socialist! Probably an unbeliever as well!)
George Washington--- and especially Martha Washington!
Yup-- Martha. LOCK HER UP LOCK HER UP!
(Anything to distract from the current news....)
Trump-aid is orange!
She thinks?
Yeah, we have. . . *dizzy* memories (and quotes) from dear FORMER Representative Michelle Bachmann. She never stops. . . that thing she does. (Whatever you wish to call it.)
Trump has mesmerized his "family." He will continue to enthrall them as they feed off his twitter account, conservative talk media, and the multiplicity of RALLIES! Well, it will take 'other' red republicans to subdue this 'inner mob' with its glazed over eyes and that follow 'him; anywhere stare.
Republicans! Conservative mass media is lying to you! 'El Rushbo' is lying to you. I can not accept that the vast majority of republicans buy into - mind manipulation - techniques. For the record, Donald Trump is a lot of things—charismatic? I don't think so.
Republicans, save yourselves. Only you can!
Ever watch documentaries about Hitler? Some of them show old footage of the crowds at his rallies and such. There is one particular bit that has always been cringe worthy. The camera catches this one particular woman who has such a look of rapture? adoration? obsession? You've seen it.
YEP !
don't talk to me
I didn't. I typed !
“We all felt that we were a ‘family’ rather than a church,”
The Peoples Temple Members Were a Racially-Mixed Family Dedicated to Improving the World
The Peoples Temple is often branded as a cult whose members blindly devoted their allegiance to a man and a cause at the expense of their own selves and livelihoods. But a closer look at Jim Jones’ followers reveals a large and diverse mix of racial backgrounds and age groups who were drawn to the church’s activist and progressive ideals.
In the end, approximately 304 people aged 17 years or younger found dead in Jonestown.
Just keep that old saying in mind: what goes around, comes around.
Your pictures look more like looks of sorrow to me.
Now in this picture these folks look obsessed with their cell phones.
aaaaahhhhhh…..The Walking "Rubbernecker". Gotta luv them ?
What happened in elections from 2010 to 2016 wasn't much of a shock.
I'm STILL …….. Waiting..... to be SHOCKED that is.
That batshit crazy bitch Bachman (Marcus Bachman's beard) belongs in an asylum. She's got those Charles Manson eyes.
Not so much crossing the street I don't....lol
They've lost the ability of "Facial Reading" or "Emotion Recognition" . Emoji REQUIRED now !
The "HunchBack of Notre Dame" is making a comeback for sure.
I'd love to see that one. Can you locate it and show us?
Okay, friend It Is Me. I've checked and there is a difference between rapturous joy and the loss (sorrow) expressed on the faces of your images: Loser, Loser 1, and Loser 2.
I'd call those type (Loser) faces in my pictures.....being "Obsessed" with someone.
Really, Crying because a lifer politician lost an election ?
Really ? Is life that "Slow" for people like that ?
They weren't even close to being that upset when Weinstein was caught......fiddling with the Queens of Hollywood.
I'll try. Might be difficult to find
Yep! Jim Jones had charismatic power. Once in my life, I was in a large room with Mr. Jim Jones. Now that you mention it—you might not be wrong in your assessment. Donald Trump may be a qualified charismatic leader, after all. In his own way, that is.
There's a reason the only book Trump has on his night stand is the collected speeches of Hitler.
Well, considering. . . .
That it was a loss to a conniving, pompous, ' gas-lighter ' who bad-mouths good, honest, people for self-promotional purposes, profit, and cheap thrills can drive even a stoic to momentarily distraction.
The "loser" designations for your images, came from the pictures themselves. Just to be clear.
Some people were just as invested in clinton as were some people are invested in trump.
Some of the people invested in trump seemed out of their mind with ecstasy the same night.
Most of us who didn't especially didn't want trump became very sober knowing we now did not know where our future would be taken, and still dont. Much of what president trump has started is just that started. Time will show us all the outcomes. Good or bad.
Too many examples to be able to chose just one without knowing which documentary it was which had the image that caught your eye Trout.
Perhaps something from the propaganda film; TRIUMPH OF THE WILL (1935)
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The only things missing are the " Make (Put Countries Name of Choice Here), Great Again " hats and the attacks on the media gathered to report on the rallies.
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Other random shots of adoring crowds from other sources.
Thank you, AH-t!
Thank you, AH-t!
I just VOTE !
If whom I voted for WINS.....GREAT !
If whom I voted for loses.....Oh Well, Life goes on. I just go back to my little Ol' business and do the same thing I always have.
The next Election Cycle that comes up, I VOTE again.
It's as simple as that.
That's how I saved them.
As for Hillary being Better ?, Toby Keith put it best:
"This election, I don't think it makes a difference," he said when asked if he knew which candidate he would vote for. " I can't believe there's 300 million Americans in this country and we've got these two as our final two. It's absolutely crazy. I want to live in a country that's functional. I don't want to live in a country that's on the skids. So it doesn't matter if it's a Democrat, independent, Republican or just a citizen who's running for president. If they're doing a good job, let 'em do a good job."
Gee what a happy lookin group.
I guess it is true, ignorance is bliss.
Well, for one thing, I can not picture Hillary Clinton as president being on my television morning, noon, and night. For that you need a megalomaniac. As President Theodore Roosevelt says, "Walk softly and carry a big stick." Meaning negotiate first and reserve force as an option. Trump is behaving like a bull in a china shop! Items are being moved out of their places; stuff is hitting the floor, and very little is being given the respect its due.
Trump's good job so far is temporary and by the way, his accomplishments are laying on a foundation built by a democrat: former President Barack H. Obama. Whom Trump won't say one good word. And now, the question becomes: Will you say a good word about former President Obama?
That "Walk Softly" thingy worked when Leaders in this country had some gutz to actually wield the "Big Stick" !
After so many "Weenie" roles by politicians over the last decades.....It's time the "Bull" broke up the shop for a change. "Apology Tours" make the "Big Stick" look like a Limp twig.
You are obviously reading and listening to too much FOX News and conservative radio. Seeing the world through 'disruptive' eyeglasses you will always find some reason on a clear day to complain about blue sky. Just remember, El Rushbo and Sean Hannity lead a pack which get humongous bucks to blow mole hills into mountains!
Living in relative peace with your neighbors while being firm with them is not the same thing as telling them it's my way or the highway. Besides, Trump has kicked stuff over, but then he refuses to go back and complete the deals. INCOMPLETE.
Trump's good job so far is temporary and by the way, his accomplishments are laying on a foundation built by a democrat: former President Barack H. Obama. Of whom,Trump won't say one good word. And now, the question becomes: Will you say a good word about former President Obama?
Never heard that.
I heard...…."Time for you to pick up the pace you PROMISED to do".
When Trump laid out NATO for building that Billion Dollar Monument to themselves......It was great.
It always makes me laugh when "Great Structures" can be built, but when it comes to Actually towing the line, they never seem to have that money to …… Tow that Line !
And as far as trade goes......Every Country is in it for themselves. Problem is....This Country has had too many leaders that let the other countries have what they want. IMO......Times UP for them ! Our country has "Legal" citizens too.....in case you forgot.
And by the way.….I try and stay away from "OPINION BASED" Fact? news.
I'm too lazy to google it, but recently I saw a video on YouTube of Trump praising Omorosa. Yup-- he hires only the best.
Only two counts had anything to do with Trump and those are questionable
None of the counts had anything to do with Trump or the campaign
None of the counts had anything to do with Trump or the campaign and he worked with and for Manager not Trump
Only of allegedly lying to the FBI not for anything to do with Trump
Only of allegedly lying to the FBI not for anything to do with Trump
As far as the last two are concerned, if lying to the FBU is a crime, when is Hillary going to be charged? She not only lied to the FBI but also to Congress and the American people.
True, However,
IMO: Mr.Trump was associating and doing business with these people whether or not he or them did anything nefarious regarding this specific election isn’t the stopping point for me.
The fact that Mr. trump associated with people of this caliber at all certainly allows me to question his ability to choose decent quality people at all both, from his past, the present an of course going forward.
Personally to me it appears president trump’s promises of securing “Only the Best of The Best !” seems more like a campaign slogan more than a reality.
IMO: If this is "the best of the best" america really has to offer. Well we're all just ... fucked.
Thankfully, I dont believe they are ! They were just trump choices.
We were that right after the democrats nominating convention in '08. We had the two worst candidates in our history. Fortunately for us, the better (and only slightly so) of the two won the election and became president .
We were and are until "We the people" step back and relax and actually look at who actually started and who is continuing this great divide between the citizenry of this county.
We the people didn't start this fight, we the people dont benefit from our infighting, the media and our politicians are the people who stated and the people who actually are profiting from this.
If and when We the people ever decide we've had enough of this division and their profiting in power and wealth from it, maybe we will actually join forces and demand they stop this dividing up of us for their own power and profit.
Till then IMO: ... Yep, we're Fucked !
The fact is likely we demand too much out of our leaders, all of them. No matter what they do-there is a 'side' of critics to slam each and everyone of them into the wall! And, TALK RADIO being the worst of all, on all sides!
John McCain passed away tonight. A good man. A man with a long legacy. Yet, he died, in part despised by some members with shifting loyalties, of whom he loved all his days! As a liberal democrat, but in the past a conservative, I have no particular interest in John McCain, but I do recognize a fine man when I see one. Even when he is not for me.
Our 'old guard' is dying out one-by-one. Joan Rivers is gone now, another of the 'old guard,' who use to reprimand: "Oh, grow up America!"
To which I'd like to add: "We can't keep politically 'exhausting' and working out our best politicians, because what will be left is the scum. Not the creme of the crop!
All of the above said, Donald Trump's pathological lies sets him apart and he even now has never been a proper politician.
Lest we overlook the ultimate reality ...
A stolen election.
Trump Became President by Criminal Conspiracy. Let that sink in.
Thanks for the link but I am truly sorry. When you combine dailykos and MSNBC in your single argument, you lost. Have you EVER seen an article or report on ANYTHING good this administration has done on/in either one of those? Rhetorical. The majority of this particular "article" was about Manafort, Cohen, and Flynn because they did some stupid shlt. Manafort 12 frigging years ago. They were investigating him in 2012 and perhaps before. Why wait to drop the hammer after being in the Trump campaign...............other than the fact that they dragged their feet so much that the statute of limitations were about to run out especially where Manafort was concerned?
You too Kathleen and safe travels with your daughter. My son goes next year and his mom is already in panic mode.........
We'll be watching carefully for your sources, if you ever use any.
Well, one thing's for sure. It's thoughtfully quiet around the whitehouse dinner table...everyone is worried.
Cohen's lawyer has announced that Cohen has plenty to say to Mueller and isn't making any deals and also will refuse a presidential pardon because Trump is so corrupt the pardon would mean nothing..
He's going to start singing and dancing like Gene Kelly.
Trump is so fucked!
just curious... how many times has the left fallen for the same ol story
trump will be impeached any minute now. (and then nothing happens)
question:
how long before trump is not impeached will the left realize they are chasing another rainbow that does not exist?
a few weeks? a few months? inquiring minds want to know