Grassley: No corroboration of Kavanaugh accusers' allegations in FBI report
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Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said Thursday there's no corroboration of sexual assault allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in a supplementary FBI report submitted to the Senate.
"I've now received a committee staff briefing on the FBI's supplement to Judge Kavanaugh's background investigation file. There's nothing in it that we didn't already know," Grassley said in a statement.
"These uncorroborated accusations have been unequivocally and repeatedly rejected by Judge Kavanaugh, and neither the Judiciary Committee nor the FBI could locate any third parties who can attest to any of the allegations. There's also no contemporaneous evidence," he added.
"This investigation found no hint of misconduct...I'll be voting to confirm Judge Kavanaugh."
Grassley made his statement after being briefed by Senate GOP staff who viewed the report.
Senators have been filing into and out of the secure compartmented information facility in the Capitol Visitor Center to view the report Thursday morning.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, declined to comment after reviewing the document.
Her staff was seen leaving the secure information facility shortly after she left.
"This is now the 7th. time the FBI has investigated Judge Kavanaugh," President Trump tweeted . "If we made it 100, it would still not be good enough for the Obstructionist Democrats."
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has vowed to bring Kavanaugh's nomination to the full Senate this week, though several key GOP and Democratic senators have so far refused to say how they will vote.
--This breaking news report was last updated at 10:29 a.m..
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No Corroboration.
No comment from DiFi?
Might be a little embarrassing to have to go on national television and admit that the FBI investigation they demanded didn't meet expectations.
In other words, the political ploy failed.
I'm just shocked she had NOTHING to say
Instead of investigating behind the scenes and checking the veracity of the accusation made by Dr. Ford...all the while maintaining the anonymity of Dr. Ford...she chose to sit on it and then allow the public to decide.
This was her circus and the performance flopped. What could she say?
Maybe she was just too stunned that she now realizes that there isn't anything left the Democrats can do to stop Kavanaugh being confirmed?
Actually she did comment this morning. She claims the investigation was incomplete (even though twice as much time was put into it as the Anita Hill investigation that the Democrats used as their model for this one) and she suggested that the White House somehow did something to tie the FBI's hands. She did not explain how that could be done.
Sour grapes don't taste particularly good, do they?
Dems demanded an investigation and got it.
Don't cry now because the results didn't pan out.
It just makes the whole thing look even more like the cheap political ploy some of us knew it was all along.
Her reason - and Schumer's - is that the FBI didn't sit Ford down and talk with her again after she had already put in two days of testimony. Evidently they believe the FBI would conduct a much more in-depth investigation in a few hours.
"They walk among us".
The investigation amounted to a police report after the fact of a traffic accident. The police didn't see it happen, they go and interview both parties (in this case they had to accept the Senate interview as their testimony) and then they write a report based on that testimony. They do not assign fault, they do not come to a conclusion and they don't interview all available witnesses, they aren't investigating a crime yet so it's not required. When the insurance company gets the report they don't just take the two descriptions given in the report as gospel, they look at the damage, they compare scratches and their direction showing physically which vehicle was moving into the other.
In this case, the majority of Americans listening to Dr. Fords testimony believe her story, they believe she was sexually assaulted in her teens. The majority of those who believe this believe it was Bret Kavanaugh, while some of those who believe her story believe she is mistaken on the identity of her attackers. Sadly, those who believe her story and believe it was Bret Kavanaugh, aren't enough to prevent his confirmation to the supreme court.
Whaaat??? What has sour grapes got to do with letting Kavanaugh get away with lying to Congress????
An "investigation" is not hampered by being limited to very few days and allowed very few interviews.
What results did you expect when the FBI was not allowed to complete a thorough investigation?
To borrow a phrase and a defense useful the left.
"Hillary got away with it "
They are when they occur rather last minute and have no credible evidence to back them up .
It was a given to the majority of people able to think logically and for themselves that the progressive liberal Democrats were never going to accept anything on that FBI report that did not exactly gel with their skewed version of events. I'm sure DiFi and her ilk are already busy planning their next hate filled move, but they do not realize they lost the momentum before Dr Ford and Judge Kavanaugh ever stepped into the Senate hearing chambers for that inquisition they tried to call job interview.
Whining about the investigation Democrats demanded is making them look like spoiled children who didn't get their way.
Time to vote for Kavanaugh!
What does that have to do with the accusations made.
He did it, just ask any snowflake.
The best you have is a fake whataboutism??? Sad, so very very sad. You don't even have any defense for his lies to Congress.
I might suggest you familiarize yourself with the facts of the case before you make yourself look even more foolish. She submitted the accusation against Kavanaugh when he was listed as one of 10 prospects by Trump. He had not been chosen, and it was far from being "last minute".
I known I should have known that that type of answered is for the exclusive use of the liberals. How foolish of me.
You might want to look up the facts. She sent a letter to her congresscritter and to senator Feinstein. She asked for confidentiality . No one else knew of her accusations until the last minute when Feinstein and/or someone on her staff leaked the info . Ford can not get any corroboration for her accusations, attempted to stall things by claiming she was afraid to fly ( a lie) and when that didnt hold things up long enough demanded an FBI investigation .When the investigation they called for was done they complain about it being to short. This whole affair has been nothing but an attempt to smear a good man and postpone his confirmation. The democrats should be shamed of themselves.
Oh BTW, since you seem to want something done because he allegedly lied, are you in favor of prosecuting her further lies she told congress
Prosecuting who?
And yes, anyone that commits perjury should be prosecuted.
Definition of thorough
The FBI never even interviewed Ford or Kavanaugh. In what weird, bizarre, right wing world can an investigation be considered "thorough" when both the accuser and the accused are not interviewed???
Limited to the accusations is what was agreed to, not limiting the number of days and people to interview. This was done so that any additional illegalities discovered during the investigation would not be admissible, only additional information about the various submitted sexual assault complaints.
Apparently the Republicans were so unsure of him, they were afraid that the FBI would turn up new illegal activities committed by Kavanaugh.
Did Ford not get to say everything she wanted to during her testimony?
Did her lawyers not instruct Democrats to ask the "right" questions?
I said last week, Ford testified and accused him, he denied it, and not one single witness named by Ford has ever corroborated any part of her story. There are no police reports or medical reports form that time. There is no physical evidence.
Based on Ford's testimony, who exactly were the FBI supposed to interview? And since no one has ever claimed to be at a party with Kavanaugh and Ford together, how can they corroborate her testimony?
Why YES..… Yes she did.
Democrats on the Committee decided to take 4 minutes and 59 seconds of their 5 minutes to flower her with praise instead of asking questions....Now it's "They didn't have enough time".
Time to pass out the pacifiers again !
Those pacifiers have been firmly in place since November 2016.
A majority? In who's eyes? Puhlease. Must be the same CNN pollsters that said 99% plus that Hillary would win on Nov. 6, 2016.
Because their sworn testimony is on the public record? I understand that you think that the inquisition and their techniques should be brought back for (***Republican Only****) nominees, but we don't do that here.
"In choosing who is telling the truth, 45 percent said Ford is, up from 32 percent ahead of her Sept. 27 testimony . A third (33 percent) said Kavanaugh is the one telling the truth, up slightly from 26 percent before he testified but not as much of a rise as for Ford."
So 45% believe Dr. Ford, 33% believe Kavanaugh and 22% are unsure. So a majority believe Dr. Ford.
You'll also notice 53% of Americans disapprove of how President Trump is doing as President. That's one of the highest disapproval ratings in history and the lowest approval rating at 41%.
Gallup Historical Presidential Job Approval Statistics (first term averages).
Donald Trump January 2017 - October 2018 41%
A little under half the people that listen to National Public Radio believe the doctor and approx. a third believe Judge Kavanaugh......
I'll take that.
You know what 66 % of NPR listeners believed that Trump was going to lose.
If that's all she can muster today, in the absolute hate filled world of democrat politics, I would say it's safe to believe that more Americans don't believe her than do.....
Anyone who follows current american politics would expect that percentage to be well over 66%. Especially in a Marist poll of NPR listeners.
Smear campaign failed....
I'm sure the FBI might have different questions since they are trained in questioning both suspects and victims.
The poll was not done of just NPR listeners. At the top of the poll it lists who were surveyed.
"Adults 18 years of age and older residing in the contiguous United States were contacted on landline or mobile numbers and interviewed in English by telephone using live interviewers. Mobile telephone numbers were randomly selected based upon a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the nation from Survey Sampling International."
So that pretty much demolishes your entire argument.
No it doesn't.
But I don't expect you to understand or accept why it doesn't.
You produce zero numbers except some fantasy "66% of NPR listeners" statistic which by the smell of it came out of a random rectum. How can anyone understand your invented statistics? The facts show that of a random sampling of Americans from nearly every demographic, there are those who believe Dr. Ford, those who believe Kavanaugh and those who have no opinion either way. The largest of those three categories, or a majority, are those who believe Dr. Ford. That is why I made the initial claim that "the majority of Americans listening to Dr. Fords testimony believe her story, they believe she was sexually assaulted in her teens."
So your attempt at deflection by making a false claim (claiming the survey was only of NPR listeners) failed miserably. The rest of your claim, that well over 66% of NPR listeners should be expected to believe Dr. Ford, is irrelevant (as well as pure conjecture with no basis in fact). Thus your bogus argument was annihilated as I pointed out. Your insistence that it wasn't is also irrelevant without any further evidence to the contrary.
Wow, I am so shocked.
Whatever will the hounds bay at now?
What's happened to Heitikamp's poll numbers since the story exploded?
They've tanked. She's now down double digits.
This is someone preparing for life as a Democratic lobbyist. The last thing she wants to do is anger her future employers on the way out.
She runs for a statewide office in a state Trump won by 35 points. North Dakota is hopeless.
Still if she wanted to make a run she would vote for Kavanaugh. She has decided instead to do the ethical thing. More power to her. Maybe it will rub off on the other fence leaners.
You have “ethical” and “partisan” confused. Please consult your Merrimam Webster as soon as possible.
Who cares how she votes? We don't need her vote.
Gee, I bet good money not a lot of Democrats were saying that shit when she won.
Of course, now that it looks kike she'll lose, and badly, it is all "It is a red state and she never stood a chance!"
LMFAO
Who cares how she votes? We don't need her vote.
Who cares We don't need her.
Understood
Was it hard to understand or something?
Lost 2 votes already hers and Sen. Daines
Never had her vote, so nothing lost on her.
If I was Trump I would offer the Senator a flight home on AF1.
Just so he could stay and vote before attending his daughter's wedding.
From the link you posted...
I would bet dollars against doughnuts that he has assigned a proxy for his vote....
They don't have to be present to vote on most things......
They lost Murkowski's vote also.
I heard that, but with Murkowski? better wait until she actually votes.
And also from what I've heard they've gained Manchin's vote and Collins is going to side with the judge.
Republicans +1
We are still waiting on Flake....
Well Collins folded and is voting for the would be rapist Bart O'kavanaugh. Traitorous BITCH.
Ladies and gentlemen we're fucked
Bazinga!!
Considering the source, it's more likely "No truth."
never ask a question you do not already know the answer to.
they had her nailed to the wall before she showed up to testify test-a-lie
why on earth would they ask her that question? that was the trap.... and she fell into it.
the following headline says fords credibility is under attack by republicans?
yet her own testimony shows she is full of shit on a level rarely even seen in the wild.
violence or lies.. the left has nothing else to choose from.
the communist playbook has become tired, worn out and predictable.
cheers
So what in the FBI report will be leaked by the Democrats to the New York Times? And turned into another smear tactic.
feainstein now says she wants to keep the fbi report sealed.
I wonder why...
(rhetorical)
Hmm...I don't believe that Feinstein is in any sort of position to have the final say on that.
I expect it will leak sometime soon, or they will release it publicly.
Had the report been devastating to Kavanaugh, I believe the Democrats would have found a way to leak it already.
" Her staff was seen leaving the secure information facility shortly after she left."
That's a major leak waiting to happen....even though they aren't "supposed" to.
Feinstein and Schumer bitching about the short time frame for the FBI's redress of background checks, full of "Nothingness" in the first place ....Blame Miss Feinstein for that Mr. Schumer.
Even though they kept repeating that it should be done because the Anita Hill investigation only took three days. This took a week and suddenly it's not long enough.
You have to train like an Olympian to be that full of shit. No one comes by it naturally.
Yeah, so now he should be disqualified because he got mad during the hearing.
There will be a leak - and it will come from, probably, both of their offices.
Which is the usual method of getting it out there, and if I remember Grassley said it will probably be leaked AFTER the senators and their staffs had the chance to review it....
It will come out something that heavy never stays secret...
Now for the backlash of …… not everyone was interviewed, there were limits to the scope of the investigation [as there should be .. otherwise it becomes a fishing expedition] ….. the gnashing of teeth has not yet begun... there will be multiple reason why the FBI failed to fill in all the blanks and substantiate the accusations against Kavanaugh.... most likely it will have something to do with 'Trump did it'...
Dr. Ford's legal team is piping in. — nor the witnesses who corroborate her testimony — I believe this refers to her husband and the friends she told in 2012. We all know that those witnesses can only corroborate that she spoke about a sexual assault after revealing it to her Therapist(s). If the assault is uncorroborated, there's no need to question those she told 30 years later.
A very good point, one often ignored.
I think it is coming down to, as long as an individual has something negative to say about Kavanaugh then it is relevant, in the minds of many.
What I cannot figure out is why would the FBI question Ford - the FBI's investigation was in search of corroboration .. Ford already told her story, what could she add of relevance to a reopening of a background check?
Perhaps she, or her legal team, were looking to steer the FBI in their investigation. Remember, she, or her legal team, wanted Kavanaugh to testify at the hearing FIRST.
Good point... I had forgotten about that, having Kavanaugh go first made no sense...
I have questioned why she [Ford] would think anyone would give her the dates that Judge worked at Safeway (think she said something like) 'in order to be able to give more accurate testimony … I was told that an FBI investigation would have provided her with that type of information - so if the FBI had investigated before the hearing .. Ford's accusations 'would have been' more accurate ….. ?
Your speculation may be on track! I have more questions today than I had a week ago, I went back to her testimony yesterday, just to make sure I had not missed anything .... Looks like a vote is eminent … while I have yet to pick a winner in the believable category....
Maybe you should ask Rachell Mitchell since she also observed that investigating a sexual assault allegation via 5 minutes bursts in public testimony was exactly the wrong way to do it. Or you could simply ask why the FBI wasn't allowed to look at the other evidence which Ford says she was unwilling to provide in that public testimony.
Unfortunately since when do any of US get a peek behind the curtain to see or ask these people anything ?
Especially anything they will answer with a truthful full answer.
IMO: The country is being ran 144 characters at a time by one unpredictable character. Personally I think we're doing better than I expected.
I agree that having a tweeting sociopath in charge is a problem. As a result we'll soon have Justice Rapist on the supreme court.
Yeah, cuz we need all that hearsay on the record. /s
It does help when you don't allow the FBI to even interview the perp or the victim, much less interview corroborating witnesses who learned about the sexual assault later, or even examine any other evidence which the victim says she was unwilling to reveal in public testimony. It also helps a lot when you don't permit the FBI to interview the 42+ person who have come forward with relevant information.....or even allow them to interview all the victims.
Sounds like the GOP sought a foregone conclusion not a real investigation.
And it's also never a bad idea to doubt Grassley's version of the facts either.
Dems cried until they got what they asked for. And now they are crying because the results do not support their claims.
Tough for them.
Better pick a winner next time.
Yeah, we all knew that was coming.
They're so transparent Windex called and asked what formula they use.
In the face of what is going on, this comment is ridiculous.
If you ask me for 10 dollars and I give you 10 dollars in play money, which one of us is insincere?
I gave you what you asked for, didnt I?
They didnt interview everyone who had brought forth "credible" allegations, AND those who could corroborate them.
And of course they didnt FBI interview Ford and Kavanaugh. Trump didnt want Kavanaugh lying to the FBI, thats why !
Heidi Heitkamp , a red state Democrat who was thought to be a possible yes vote, has said now that she is voting no. There are growing protests at government buildings in DC against the Kavanaugh nomination. The people are speaking. Will the "moderate" Republicans have the guts to listen?
No John - the "people" are not speaking. However the whining, crying, lying abusive left wing is getting ready to come out strong with this loss.
How dumb do people on the right have to be to believe this was a "complete" investigation?
There is nothing coming out that indicates that the FBI was allowed to interview anyone they wanted. They had a small list created by Trump and his advisers.
It's basically a whitewash until proven otherwise.
Still sounds like whining to me.
You got what you asked for. Don't complain now.
We even told you how the investigation would go, sine there is nothing to investigate and no witnesses that have corroborated any part of Ford's story.
Too damn bad.
Kavanaugh will be confirmed, and there isn't anything Democrats can do about it.
Hey, I know how much you like polls, and Heitkamp is losing badly.
Who cares how she votes?
If it was closer in the polls, she might have voted yes.
"We even told you how the investigation would go"
OK You convinced me, No more reassuring words were ever written.
lol
I don't care if you are convinced.
I said it would happen a certain way, and it looks exactly like I thought it would.
There is not one single person who has corroborated any part of Ford's story.
I don't care if you are convinced.
I said it would happen a certain way, and it looks exactly like I thought it would.
There is not one single person who has corroborated any part of Ford's story.
That’s fine, I don’t expect all of us to see everything the same. In fact if we did that would concern me. Everyone sees things differently. I also believed this is about what we would see if we could see it all.
like I’ve said I hate that all of this happened I think we would have probably been better off if it hadn’t. (I have come to really dislike most anything that devided Americans.)
That said Yes I still have my doubts and as I see it the people in charge don’t care. I also expected that. They do not have to. They have the power. They control what happens the appearances of why and how at this time are not near as important as putting the man in the court and fulfilling the court seat and the agenda of it being a conservative.
This is not the first time I’ve seen this push to full fill an agenda at any cost. Obamacare never was truly vetted properly either there were many questions unanswered but congress voted to see what happened without all the facts on the table. Or at least in any form a reasonable person could see the facts.
Although much different, the similarities on not for sure knowing but moving forward always has risks. This of course is no exception.
I doubt this is over for many when Judge Kavanagh is sworn in in the next few days. I expect some will raise hell over this for years. Some may obtain power they at this time dont have as well and hold resentment and be revengeful. That of course isn't good for any of us.
Anyway, This is not how I want to see any new judgeship in the most powerful position of our country begin and I doubt most anyone does.
Yet, This is the reality we have.
PS: Unfortunately I offer no reasonable way out. It is what it is.
Thanks if ya read my rants I hope they make some sense to those who do. If not.. O well.
There are two types of "whitewashing" this is the easiest to remember, if you're old enough,
this is the second one,
white·wash
[ˈ(h)wītˌwäSH, ˈ(h)wītˌwôSH]
VERB
whitewashing (present participle)
(whitewashed)
paint (a wall, building, or room) with whitewash.
deliberately attempt to conceal unpleasant facts about (a person or organization).
"his wife must have wanted to whitewash his reputation"
synonyms:
cover up · sweep under the carpet · hush up · [more]
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Definition of whine (Entry 1 of 2)
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: to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry
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: to make a sound similar to such a cry
the wind whined in the chimney
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: to complain with or as if with a whine
always whining about the weather
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: to move or proceed with the sound of a whine
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Yep, just what I thought, no defense for the whitewashing of Fords allegation. As I said and, as Ford herself said, she would be Anita Hilled.
There is no need for me to defend anything regarding your personal feelings.
Kind of like they did with Christine?
Try to look her up. She has been cleansed.
Sorry bubba, but the Judiciary Committee compiled the list - not the WH.
Next excuse?
You'll really believe anything so long as it conforms to your foregone conclusions.
And who is believing a story completely uncorroborated by ANY witnesses?
Well, that comment certianly changed my mind, .....said no one ever.
And who is believing a story completely uncorroborated by ANY witnesses?
Which religious group would that be ?
Good to see that the ABA is reviewing their latest rating of Kavanaugh because they don't believe him and he doesn't have a judicial temperament. So the odds are high that he'll be downgraded again to being just barely qualified or unqualified. Unfortunately by the time that review is complete the senate will have already held their final vote.
Even former Justice Stevens says that Kavanaugh is unqualified and shouldn't be confirmed.
Wasn't it a Republican who demanded a supplemental investigation? He was happy with a sham investigation so as to cover his butt. The Dems certainly didn't get the comprehensive investigation they wanted which would have had the FBI interview the perp, all the victims, all their corroborating witnesses, and all the other witnesses who came forward about Kavanaugh's frequent excessive drinking and the fact that he repeatedly lied to the senate.
Crying about it isn't helping.
Are you insinuating that Democrats weren't crying for an FBI Investigation?
The Dems repeatedly said they wanted a comprehensive supplemental investigation without restrictions on what the FBI could examine, but they don't control the committee so the GOP stonewalled that request.
What they got was a severely restricted sham investigation which deliberately ignored over 42 witnesses and didn't even interview Ford or the person who sexually assaulted her, and the ONLY reason they even got that was because 3 Republicans were going to vote no unless they got that fig leaf.
Yeah - and I'm thinking of the thousands of folks who also know/knew Kavanaugh that surely someone would want to step up and admit Brett told them he didn't like Pistachio/Chocolate Ice Cream, or the thousands of attorneys/judges who have read and utilized the findings in Kavanaugh's opinions, including SCOTUS and found that he didn't put a comma someplace which changed the meaning of his opinion.
Over 1400 law professors and a former SCOTUS Justice have demanded that the nomination be withdrawn, and the ABA is considering withdrawing its recommendation based on his poor temperament and dishonesty.
People have free speech rights to say that sort of thing.
Remember when lots of people were demanding that the EC not elect Trump?
How'd that work out?
Any better than THIS scenario?
Who exactly are those corroborating witnesses? No one supported her stry form 36 years ago. Who exactly are you talking about? Both Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh's sworn testimony is on the record and available to investigators?
There are 4 corroborating witnesses on the public record and they've all signed sworn affidavits. It sounds like you're just to lazy to learn who they are.
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No one claimed that they're eyewitnesses or from 36 years ago. It sounds like you still have no clue what a corroborating witness is.
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Interesting that the FBI was prohibited from interviewing Kavanaugh or Ford, particularly given that Ford says she has other evidence which she didn't want made public. No doubt that's why the GOP didn't want the FBI to interview her.
So there is NO corroborating evidence or testimony supporting Ford's allegations.
Got it.
That comment is an obvious lie since there are 4 sworn affidavits from corroborating witnesses. You simply don't understand what a corroborating witness is. From what I can tell none of the conservatives here do.
Since you claim it, prove it please:
Tell me which witness corroborated Ford's testimony.
Which witness placed Kavanaugh at the same party as Ford?
Which witness knew where the party was, and on which date was the party?
NO ONE CORROBORATED FORD'S STORY, and claiming otherwise is downright silly.
Well they have her sworn testimony on record, they don't need to rehear it or offer the opportunity to embellish it.
That just for starters.
Grassley has asked for the supposed corroborating "Evidence" for weeks, since the start of this mess in fact. and Dr Fords attorney's have refused all requests for it.
Have you wondered why?
Because they wanted Grassley to subpoena it using the committee's power of subpoena. Doing such interjects even more court appearances and testimony and argument which could take 4 to 8 weeks until the judge orders them to turn it over.
What would that do?
Delay the nomination until after the midterms. which is what the democrats have been wanting all along. all the while using the media to spread more and more trash.
Grassley didn't take the bait and is forcing the democrats to stand on their already very weak and probably invented position. based upon testimony without a shred of proof.
Grassley took the position that if this is real then the accuser should be ready willing and able to produce all evidence in defense of their claims. The fact that they are not willing to do such calls the whole into serious question.
This is why Feinstein et al, are unwilling to comment, there is no good path forward for them at this point.
How do I know?
13 years inside the beltway......
They took their best shot to derail the nomination until after the election cycle in the belief that they can flip the senate and pigeonhole the nomination.
They failed.
Grassley has the 4 sworn affidavits from corroborating witnesses. What he doesn't have is the other evidence which Ford was willing to show the FBI but which she didn't trust the GOP with for rather obvious reasons.
Well then I guess her politics got in the way of giving full and truthful testimony and evidence to the committee...
And as a side note, it is only the democrats that know the "obvious reasons"
to everyone else, it is obvious as to why not....
Is she claiming that the White House controls the FBI and that sworn testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee is not to be believed and must be investigated?
The 'tenor' of Judge Kavanaugh's testimony is removed when you read his opening statement and transcripts of his testimony...but she's right. If Kavanaugh spoke to anyone other than Feinstein and other's who have labeled him in the press, his tenor would be quite different.
Meanwhile..
Pretty much. Talk about your wacky conspiracy theories. Then she walked it back a touch and said she didn't know that for sure. But, you know, she's just throwing it out there and that's harmless. Imagine if Trump had said something like that. It would be the only thing the media talked about for the next week. But Feinstein said it, so they'll just pretend no one heard it.
Funny that no one in the GOP has the balls to admit which of them so constrained the supplemental investigation as to be meaningless.
Absolutely. Kavanaugh cleared of all accusations
Grassley must immediately demand the DOJ arrest and charge Christine Ford for lying under oath to the congress, obstructing official government business and using false pretenses to create a maelstrom of confusion and division in the media and electorate.
If Grassley will not proceed then his is either afraid of the truth or afraid of the lie. Which is it?
Nope.
We'll let her twist in the wind, along with all the Democrats who swallowed her story.
Much more fun that way, and we get to remind voters over and over and over again how Democrats broke her confidentiality, Democrats demanded and GOT an FBI investigation, how no one corroborated her story, and how the Democrats were willing to go to almost any length to tarnish Kavanaugh based on mere hearsay.
And how we let her off easy because it is obvious she need some help.
"Lock Her Up!"
Naw--we'll let her twist in the wind with those who believed her without any corroborating evidence.
Much better and more fun!
What wimps. All talk and nothing else. Lock her up.
I don't know why, but that reminds me of the Cowardly Lion from "The Wizard of Oz"
"Put 'em up, put 'em up, com'on, put 'em up"!!!!
LMFAO!
We all owe you a debt of thanks for revealing how destroying the victim was the plan all along. Thanks for helping to set back civilization for a few hundred years.
Yeah, it might be tough to have to go back to the old days when people were convicted without evidence.
Me, I kind of like our newer, modern method of convicting on evidence.
I am sure there are some countries more suitable to those who want to convict on hearsay.
Alternatively, maybe Ford can think really, really hard and come up with some more names from the people at the party she claimed she was almost raped at, maybe even a date, including a year, and a place. Maybe Feinstein can jog her memory.
That there's a amazing and chilling display of delusions.
Gee, all you have to do is point out which witnesses corroborated her story.
Do that and then we can talk about evidence.
It's much easier to spin and sputter.
I wonder if they will have as hard as a time saying Justice Kavanaugh as they do saying President Trump.
I fully expect some to don sandwich boards with "Not My President" on one side and "Not My Justice" on the other.
Should be a real hoot to watch!!!
Can yet another "Scream At The Sky" Day be far off?
LMFAO!
Sorry, no federal parade. The Senate wants this thing done. The Republicans want to show they are compassionate; and the Dems just want it to go away.
If Kavanaugh wants to pursue slander charges against Ford (and the other accusers), and their Democrat paid for lawyers- that is his decision. Forcing them to prove their charges in a court of law will expose the truth. Of course the left may not like it- and I am sure the accusers and their lawyers wallets won't.
Wonder if any Senators that accused Kavanaugh of being a rapist should be worried as well? That is a very powerful position to lobbing around unfounded, unsubstantiated accusations from. Especially if he isn't confirmed now.
The left will claim Kavanaugh shouldn't sue for slander for the good of the country. He will be the one responsible for starting the healing. He also needs to forget all of those remarks about impeachment if he is confirmed. What would the Dems impeach him for now if they gain power in the Senate again.
If only the Dems would have argued about Kavanaugh's time as a Bush White House legal consultant- and his legal work around of enhanced interrogation techniques. But that was too hard; and probably still wouldn't have worked. Instead they divided the country further with this three ring circus that accomplished nothing.
"Lock Her Up!"
I wouldn't give Democrats the satisfaction.
Why? Afraid?
Oooh, what's next ?
Gonna double-dog dare me now?
Afraid?
Why on earth would I be afraid?
Afraid of WHAT??
Right now I am only worried about getting a cramp in my side from laughing too hard!
No, we are not afraid. Locking up Kavanaugh's accusers would accomplish nothing; besides, how would they ever manage to pay him if he decides to sue them all for slander? They wouldn't be earning money in prison.
Damn, I am defending someone I don't even want on the Supreme Court to the bitter end. Thanks Democrats for appealing to the lowest part of your base with this political hit. Now I have to look at each and every Democratic candidate on the upcoming ballot and try to figure out if they would condone this type of shit show. Be nice if they comment on it to save the effort. I might be forced to vote straight Republican ticket for the first time in over 27 years.
So much for my stance on never voting for the "lesser of two evils".
I'm sure there is a liberal cabal somewhere working on that right now.
Now who sounds like the Cowardly Lion?
Multiple counts of lying under oath during his confirmation:
Brett Kavanaugh Lies About Everything
Lol, dream on ....
Everyone deserves their fantasies...
From the mouths of [..............fill in the blank................].
Democrats' fantasies of stopping the GOP from confirming Kavanaugh fell short.
I love it!
Now onto the next Democratic fantasy of taking the Senate.
That's what we kept hearing over and over and over.
OK, so we let the FBI do their thing and they put a week into it. Twice as much time as Anita Hill got. The response from Democrats? A week is not enough. Talk about moving goal posts!
We heard that over and over and over as well.
Now the report is done and everyone seems to agree that it doesn't do anything to support the accusations. We know this because that's precisely what Republicans are saying, while Democrats whine that the investigation was somehow incomplete. Obviously if it did support her story, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. Instead Feinstein and Schumer are whining.
Incredibly, they make this judgment on how the FBI should do its job only a week after insisting that they themselves were not qualified to conduct an investigation and that's why we needed the FBI! It's cliché, but you can't make this stuff up.
Disgusting and dishonest, but sadly, not surprising. Predicted everywhere by people with common sense.
And let's not forget that all of this comes after their insistence on the hearings. "Dr. Ford must be heard!" They declared. "The committee must have her testify!"
And then, of course, the hearing was inadequate (obviously so).
Today, they want more done. Hopefully the Senate leadership finally recognizes the boy crying "wolf!"
September Democratic Hot Take: "It will only take a few days! We must do it"
October Democratic Hot Take: "It only took 5 days? It's a travesty!"
also,
Old Democratic hot take, "to question the integrity of the FBI is beyond the pale"
New Democratic hot take,"The FBI is engaged in a cover up"
Democratic talking points have a shelf life of days...
Or seconds, whichever occurs first.
Last week, Democrats were whining about an FBI investigation.
Hey guess what?
This week, Democrats are still whining about an FBI investigation because it didn't prove their little theories correct.
It helps a LOT if you don't wait 36 years and choose a critical political moment to ask people to listen to you.
While I agree with you, I sure as Hell wouldn't want to deal with what DR Ford had to.
If you knew something important like that I'd think your since of patriotism would pull you to speak (even though before you had decided to move on) and your sense of protecting yourself would pull you back towards the safety of silence.
IMO: It is too bad it all unfolded as it did. DR Ford I believe brought on much of this by the way she came forward but she is not the only one I see blame accounted to. The congress and even the president did little to find out the truth. It wasn't convenient.
It would have been "in the way" if true and was easier to brush off as easily as could be and move on. I think I remember something like this when we really didn't know what was in the ACA as well and it was voted on anyway and passed.
Gee that worked out great perhaps this will as well.
Good Luck America.
Honestly, the person I blame the most is Dianne Feinstein. She made it impossible for the Senate to handle this in a dignified and discreet way. Would the ultimate outcome be different? I don't know. The FBI seems confident that we haven't missed anything relevant, and I'm not going to pretend I know better. I wish we didn't have this story at all.
Honestly, the person I blame the most is Dianne Feinstein.
I did too till someone pointed out that DR Ford had come to her with the stipulation Dr Ford's name remain anonymous.
WTF as a senator are ya gonna do with that ?
I wish we didn't have this story at all.
Thank you , besides me I have heard no one else voice that feeling.
The senators, at least, seem to feel the allegations could have been investigated without using her name.* I have heard several of them say so, and I haven't heard any of the other senators dispute the claim.
*Especially since no one seems to remember the event anyway. Investigators could ask if they remember an event like that happening and since no one remembers, it's not like asking would give her identity away. And if someone did say, "oh yeah, I remember that thing with Christine" without knowing she had tipped the Senate, that would be substantial corroboration.
Pretty simple really. Keep it confidential while starting an investigation immediately. Both can and are done regularly. And Feinstein knows that all too well. She is complicit in this goat rodeo .... big time.
You two are far from alone in that feeling.
Senator Collins speech on the Senate Floor, just made the Democrats in congress and on the committee, and those Liberal Protestors, look like SHIT STAINS on Society !
She was very specific !
I Applaud her for what she just said IN DETAIL !
Sounds like women in Maine are royally pissed at Collins. I wonder if she'll even bother to try to keep her office after this bad vote? Maybe she was getting ready to retire and doesn't give a crap what people back in Maine think about her.
Might be a loud few....but we all know what the "Few" actually means when it comes to elections. 2016 Says it all.
When will Democrats get it ?
EVER ?
You mean when the guy who couldn't even win a plurality of votes was installed by the EC? Every time that's happened it's been a complete disaster and we're seeing history repeat itself....but this time we're getting a rapist and belligerent drunk on the supreme court, someone who repeatedly lied under oath, who lacks a judicial temperament and who has no respect for the judiciary committee. Woo-hoo!
Collins is a traitorous BITCH. She just said fuck you to all women who have been sexually assaulted. BITCH
"Installed" by the EC?
Like EVERY President in your lifetime?
Good to know laws were followed and the election process happened according to the LAW!
Yep. It's been a disaster for the country every time a prez installed by the EC is the one who lost the popular vote.
Well, I guess we know where you stand don't we.... Integrity, basic honesty and respect for the law means nothing.
Thank you
That makes no sense. WTF are you talking about?
Then I suggest you do what a famous Democrat suggested:
"Win some elections!"
Well said.