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New Study Reveals Religious Upbringing Better for Kids’ Health, Well-Being

  

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Via:  xxjefferson51  •  6 years ago  •  58 comments

New Study Reveals Religious Upbringing Better for Kids’ Health, Well-Being
Emilie Kao, the director of the DeVos Center for Religion and Civil Society at The Heritage Foundation, said she was not surprised by the researchers’ findings, noting that the Harvard study joins a long list of studies showing a positive link between religion and well-being. “I think they’re consistent with other research that we’ve seen that shows religious beliefs give people spiritual strengths that lead to healthy habits and build their social networks and gives them the ability to...

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A recent Harvard study reveals that children who had a religious upbringing are likely to be healthier and have a higher degree of well-being in early adulthood than those who did not.

The study, conducted by the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and released last month, shows a link between a religious upbringing and better physical and mental health in young adults.

Researchers found that people who attended religious services weekly or who practiced prayer or meditation daily in their youth reported having a higher life satisfaction and positivity in their 20s.

Individuals were found less likely to smoke, have symptoms of depression, use illicit drugs, or have sexually transmitted infections than people who engaged in less regular spiritual practices.

“These findings are important for both our understanding of health and our understanding of parenting practices,” said first author Ying Chen in a university press release . “Many children are raised religiously, and our study shows that this can powerfully affect their health behaviors, mental health, and overall happiness and well-being.”

The researchers followed 5,000 young people for between eight to 14 years, controlling for variables such as maternal health, socioeconomic status, and histories of substance abuse or symptoms of depression.

Results show that those who went to religious services at least once a week as children were about 18 percent more likely to report higher levels of happiness as young adults between the ages of 23 and 30 than those who didn’t. They were also shown to be 29 percent more likely to volunteer in their local communities and 33 percent less likely to engage in the use of illicit drugs.

Those who prayed or meditated at least once a day in their youth were shown to be 16 percent more likely to report higher levels of happiness as young adults and were 30 percent less likely to have become sexually active in their adolescence. These individuals were also 40 percent less likely to have contracted a sexually transmitted infection than those who never prayed or meditated.

Emilie Kao, the director of the DeVos Center for Religion and Civil Society at The Heritage Foundation, said she was not surprised by the researchers’ findings, noting that the Harvard study joins a long list of studies showing a positive link between religion and well-being.

“I think they’re consistent with other research that we’ve seen that shows religious beliefs give people spiritual strengths that lead to healthy habits and build their social networks and gives them the ability to overcome obstacles in their lives,” Kao said.

Though the positive effects of growing up in a religious household is clear, religiosity in America is declining, particularly among millennials.

Gallup data show s that the number of Americans regarding religion to be “very important” in their lives is at a 24-year low, at 51 percent.

In addition, data from the Pew Research Center shows religiosity among Americans consistently declining for the past five generations, with 36 percent of millennials born between 1990 and 1996 unaffiliated with any religion.

By contrast, only 11 percent of those in the “Silent Generation,” born between 1928 and 1945, according to Pew, were unaffiliated with a religion.

Jon Cadle, a senior from Minnesota at George Washington University, said he thinks the decline is because young people today are too distracted, and he blames technology as the source of the problem.

“Where once it was a family activity every Sunday, now it’s about football and ‘Fortnite,’” Cadle said, referring to a popular online video game for children and teenagers that parents even started hiring tutors for their kids to play. “There’s so many more distractions in our culture today than in past generations.”

Hunter Wilson, another student at George Washington University, agrees that the decline in the importance of religion among young people is a result of changing values between generations.

“With the combination of religion not being taught as much in the home, in addition to its declining presence in the public square, it’s easy to understand how religion is declining in importance among my peers,” said Wilson, who hails from Michigan.

Kao warned this decline in religiosity among Americans could drive up the unhealthy behaviors that religious upbringings are shown to reduce, such as drug and alcohol addiction and depression.

“Whether it’s drugs or suicide, it’s the strong personal connections and social networks that insulate against addictions and unhealthy behaviors and suicide,” she said.

Kao said there is a lesson for policymakers to be learned from studies showing the positive influences that growing up with a religious upbringing can have.

“What policymakers need to do is allow religious institutions to operate in the public square without trying to force them to change their beliefs,” she said. “I think there’s a movement to push religious organizations out of the public square because people don’t share their values or think their values are too traditional.”

The Harvard study, “Associations of Religious Upbringing With Subsequent Health and Well-Being From Adolescence to Young Adulthood: An Outcome-Wide Analysis,” was published in the American Journal of Epidemiology.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

..... Empirical research suggests that religion is associated with better health and well-being in adults (8). For instance, there is a gradient relationship between frequent religious service attendance and lower mortality risk, even in the most rigorous studies (914). In other studies, religious involvement has also been linked to a wide range of other outcomes, such as greater psychological well-being, character strengths, reduced mental illness, and healthier behaviors (8, 15, 16). Religious teachings often concern practices related to living a healthy lifestyle and also sometimes explicitly consider character or respect for the body as an integral part of the beliefs (15).

Individuals engage in religion in a variety of ways, such as public participation, religious affiliation and identity, private practices, and religious coping (15). There have only been a limited number of studies in which investigators have compared the health associations of multiple forms of religious participation within the same study. Results from studies in adults generally suggest that religious attendance shows the strongest health associations in community samples, whereas religious coping is a prominent predictor for recovery and survival in clinically ill populations (13, 15, 17).

To date, prior studies have mostly been conducted in adults. However, research has increasingly suggested that religion may confer lifecourse influences and that religion may have even more profound health effects at younger ages (18, 19). Existing evidence in adolescents suggests that religious involvement may protect against certain behaviors and promote positive practices (2023)...https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwy142/5094534?searchresult=1

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    6 years ago
These studies are, however, subject to certain limitations. Specifically, much of the prior work is cross-sectional. There is often limited control for baseline characteristics, and reverse causation often cannot be ruled out. For example, an observed inverse association between service attendance and depression may be confounded by prior depression status, because depression may affect subsequent service attendance (24). In addition, different aspects of religious involvement are often examined in separate studies and a limited number of outcomes are investigated, so that existing evidence remains scattered across studies. It may be important to examine multiple health and well-being outcomes simultaneously within the same study 
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @1.1    6 years ago

It’s an awesome beginning to show that a religious upbringing is a scientifically sound way to assure a more well rounded, stable, emotionally secure young adult.  Nothing like being able to use science again to prove the benefit of religion.  

 
 
 
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1.1.2    replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    6 years ago
It’s an awesome beginning to show that a religious upbringing is a scientifically sound way to assure a more well rounded, stable, emotionally secure young adult.  Nothing like being able to use science again to prove the benefit of religion.

E.A    If I may::

From the View point of Evolutionists, why would any species have " Faith " based system See original meaning of Faith and Or Religion, it is a Bond that keeps individuals in a Group, in some species that Pheromones are enough to do that, but in other it is a closer bond created by association and a built of trust among members.

  So then Tribal people would keep in the tribe those that adhered to " their Mantra " and would ask those that would not to move out, see how Lion Prides , Horses, meerkats etc, also do it!

Then a Tribe that is united would have to find a common " worship " some have done so by worshiping ancestors, other  things as varied as rocks, mountains, rivers etc:

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  @1.1.2    6 years ago

I’m sure that the pseudoscience secularists will hem and haw and find all sorts of excuses for the showing that kids raised in a religious environment turn out to be exceptional as they grow up.  

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
1.1.4    replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    6 years ago
hat kids raised in a religious environment turn out to be exceptional as they grow up.

E.A Yes even their " God Evolution " makes " Religion " and the Co Word " Faith " a Fundamental part in " Survival " and yet  " They have Ears but do not Hear Eyes but … "

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  @1.1.4    6 years ago

They hate science when it too disagrees with their preconceived secular notions.  

 
 
 
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1.1.6    replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.5    6 years ago

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Phoenyx13
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1.1.8  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    6 years ago
kids raised in a religious environment turn out to be exceptional as they grow up

mainly if you are a rich white kid - as per the study you seeded in the article.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Phoenyx13 @1.1.8    6 years ago

Kids in the past prior to great society LBJ war on poverty days in two parent religious African and Hispanic families that produced well rounded young adults on a regular basis and they mostly weren’t rich and certainly weren’t white.  Thomas Sowell, Walter Wiliams, Lloyd Marcus all well describe this.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.10  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    6 years ago

... exceptionally ignorant with some fringe religious sects.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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1.1.11  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.9    6 years ago
Kids in the past prior to great society LBJ war on poverty days in two parent religious African and Hispanic families that produced well rounded young adults on a regular basis and they mostly weren’t rich and certainly weren’t white.  Thomas Sowell, Walter Wiliams, Lloyd Marcus all well describe this

sorry, you haven't provided any proof nor does the study you seeded provide any proof of that either (see @6), it's all pure conjecture on your part so far with your obviously pro religious bias driving it - you did provide 3 examples but those 3 examples do not support your sweeping generalization (you need more than 3 people for a study) nor does the seeded article support it. If you would like to know what the study in your seeded article does support - see post @6 - it's mainly rich white kids.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2  seeder  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

Religious upbringing linked to better health and well-being during early adulthood

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For immediate release: September 13, 2018

Boston, MA – Participating in spiritual practices during childhood and adolescence may be a protective factor for a range of health and well-being outcomes in early adulthood, according to a new study from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. Researchers found that people who attended weekly religious services or practiced daily prayer or meditation in their youth reported greater life satisfaction and positivity in their 20s—and were less likely to subsequently have depressive symptoms, smoke, use illicit drugs, or have a sexually transmitted infection—than people raised with less regular spiritual habits.

“These findings are important for both our understanding of health and our understanding of parenting practices,” said first author Ying Chen, who recently completed her postdoctoral fellowship at Harvard Chan School. “Many children are raised religiously, and our study shows that this can powerfully affect their health behaviors, mental health, and overall happiness and well-being.”   https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-upbringing-adult-health/

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2    6 years ago

This is a science article about a science study and the secular progressive humanists have no grounds whatsoever to try to demand moving this seed to another section here.  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2    6 years ago
Participating in spiritual practices during childhood and adolescence may be a protective factor for a range of health and well-being outcomes in early adulthood,

I'd say probably Participating in most responsible common sense structured practices during childhood and adolescence may be a protective factor for a range of health and well-being outcomes in early adulthood,

IMO: The religion part to me should be left up to each family or better yet  to each individual human.   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.2    6 years ago

The study doesn’t compel any one in any way. It simply provides information that would be useful to parents raising their children. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3  MrFrost    6 years ago

Forcing kids to believe something of which there is not a shred of evidence is called....brainwashing, and no it's not healthy. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @3    6 years ago

Science disagrees with you.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @3    6 years ago

all 3 of my happy, healthy, and productive adult children have thanked me for not imposing any religious bullshit upon them when they were young. I was also honest with them about santa claus, the easter bunny, the great pumpkin, and the tooth fairy when they were old enough to ask me.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4  bbl-1    6 years ago

"Religious upbringing better for kids' health and well being."  ? ?

Of course.  And the absolute proofs are the children's and the general societies where religion is the main and only focus in daily life.  Such as the Theocratic governments in the Islamic World.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5  Hal A. Lujah    6 years ago

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Phoenyx13
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6  Phoenyx13    6 years ago

from the study itself:

One limitation of the study is that it consisted mainly of children of white females of relatively high family socioeconomic status, and therefore might not be generalizable to a broader population, though  prior research  by VanderWeele suggested the effects of religious service attendance for adults may be even larger for black versus white populations. Another limitation was that the study did not look at the influences of parents and peers on adolescents’ religious decisions.

ah.. so it mainly studied rich white kids ? interesting.... and it might not be generalizable to the broader population ? well.. it seems that this seeded article is suggesting it to be generalized to the broader population.. plus it didn't look at the influence of parents and peers on the participants religious decision.. interesting they would leave that out... what others think is a big deal for many adolescents and does shape how they act/behave and view things later on, especially if those people are parents or close friends of the person making the decision

from the study itself:

This study was funded by the Templeton Foundation (grant 52125

wait.. what ? the Templeton Foundation ? here's some information for them:

he  John Templeton Foundation  ( Templeton Foundation ) is a philanthropic organization that reflects the ideas of its founder,  John Templeton , who became wealthy after a career as a  contrarian investor  and wanted to support progress in religious and spiritual knowledge,

from: 

gee.. i'm told all the time by the conservative minded that scientists and such have their own agenda and just "follow the money" ... yet now they are totally on board with science since it's funded by a religious foundation ? .... i'm almost shocked.. ( do i really need a /s tag ? ) ... at best this seeded article is misleading with a pro religious agenda.

 
 
 
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6.1    replied to  Phoenyx13 @6    6 years ago
ah.. so it mainly studied rich white kids ? interesting.... and it might not be generalizable to the broader population ?

E.A   Excellent Point!

Tell us about ALL Tribal System world wide.

 How many Tribal Systems are YOU aware that are not " Faith. Religion " Based?

In Tribal System why is " Religion/faith " a Fundamental Part and how at Pheromones what might well be the same mechanism in other lifeforms?

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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6.1.1  Phoenyx13  replied to  @6.1    6 years ago
E.A   Excellent Point!

Tell us about ALL Tribal System world wide.

 How many Tribal Systems are YOU aware that are not " Faith. Religion " Based?

In Tribal System why is " Religion/faith " a Fundamental Part and how at Pheromones what might well be the same mechanism in other lifeforms?

rich white kids are now a Tribe ?

 
 
 
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6.1.2    replied to  Phoenyx13 @6.1.1    6 years ago
rich white kids are now a Tribe ?

E.A is that what I said?

 what was MY Question?

 and YOUR response is?>

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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6.1.3  Phoenyx13  replied to  @6.1.2    6 years ago
E.A is that what I said?

 what was MY Question?

 and YOUR response is?>

well if that's not what you are stating - then your reply to my post is irrelevant since i didn't mention anything about "Tribal Systems". Next ?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Phoenyx13 @6    6 years ago

A Harvard science study published by Oxford related peer review belongs exactly where it is.  

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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6.2.1  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2    6 years ago
A Harvard science study published by Oxford related peer review belongs exactly where it is.

it's as if you didn't read nor comprehend my post... please try reading it again.

 
 
 
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6.2.2    replied to  Phoenyx13 @6.2.1    6 years ago
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Phoenyx13
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6.2.3  Phoenyx13  replied to  @6.2.2    6 years ago
E.A    Ahhh DUHhhhh      Yes how can asking a  Question be of Any Relevance 

1. you replied to the wrong post 

2. asking a question is fine if it's relevant to my post - please show me where i stated anything about "Tribal Systems world wide".

 
 
 
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6.2.4    replied to  Phoenyx13 @6.2.3    6 years ago
please show me where i stated anything about "Tribal Systems world wide"

E.A  Do NOT Bother to Reply ::

" Group of Rich Kids " to some would be a " Tribe within a Tribe "  but then again!!

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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6.2.5  Phoenyx13  replied to  @6.2.4    6 years ago
E.A  Do NOT Bother to Reply :: " Group of Rich Kids " to some would be a " Tribe within a Tribe "  but then again!!

please tell everyone when "Rich Kids" became a "Tribe System world wide" - tell everyone what their uniform beliefs are since they are supposedly a "Tribe System world wide".

 
 
 
Gordy327
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6.3  Gordy327  replied to  Phoenyx13 @6    6 years ago
wait.. what ? the Templeton Foundation ?

That alone shows there is going to be a religious bias and any "conclusion" from them should be suspect in the least.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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7  Ed-NavDoc    6 years ago

I was raised as a Roman Catholic, but it did not work well for me. As a adult, I married outside the church and was threatened with excommunication by a particularly pompous and hypocritical priest when my mother informed him that I was marrying outside the church. My wife and I raised two children whom we took to a Baptist church with us until they became teenagers. At that point I told them they were old enough and free to make their own choice on whether to believe and/or go to church. The older one became pretty much of a agnostic and I never criticized him for it. My younger one considers herself a Christian but does not follow and particular organized church. My children both grew up to become fairly normal and well adjusted adults as a result, as are my four grandchildren. I am the same way, although I have not followed much in the way of any organized religious belief system since my with and son both passed away in the last two years.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @7    6 years ago

I was raised in one of the protestant cults. Never missed a sunday or vacation bible school until I was 12 or 14 years old. Then one sunday the preacher invited my mom to a private bible study group. That was the last sunday we ever went to church. Long story short, a few months later in our small farm town, a local scandal broke about the wife swapping club that was going on at our former church. It took down a few pillars of the community, including my scout master. No more boy scouts for me. My opinion is that a big percentage of the in your face devout attend church out of the guilt they feel for something else going on in their lives. They hide it by thumping on sunday.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @7.1    6 years ago

The church is a place where spirituality sick people gather for healing, not for perfect people to gather.  There will always be fake believers and non believing posers mixed in and Satan has placed them among us to ensnare us and cause observers to question.  The fact remains that for the vast majority a non authoritarian religious upbringing is the best environment to develop well rounded children that mature into successful responsible young adults.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.1    6 years ago
Satan has placed them among us to ensnare us

God should just get rid of Satan.   Seems like a troublemaker.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.3  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.1    6 years ago
a place where spirituality sick people gather

...especially the born again madrasas.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @7.1.3    6 years ago

Stay on the topic which is the science study from Harvard that was peer reviewed.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.2    6 years ago

That day is coming.  Satan’s time to demonstrate the sheer and abject failure of his system is almost up.  He is certainly a trouble maker.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.5    6 years ago

God has not already decided Satan is trouble?  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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7.1.7  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.5    6 years ago
That day is coming.  Satan’s time to demonstrate the sheer and abject failure of his system is almost up.  

God is certainly taking his sweet time. Theists have believed Satan to be trouble for thousands of years. God supposedly knew that since day 1. So what's taking him so long to deal with it? Perhaps your god is lazy? Or just doesn't care.

 
 
 
lady in black
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8  lady in black    6 years ago

Guess "religious upbringing" didn't work for these killers:

  • Albert Fish   - devoutly Christian, but he stemmed from a family prone to religious psychosis, hence his  preoccupation with the biblical story of Abraham and Isaac (Genesis 22:1–24), that sacrificing a boy (Isaac) would provide  penance  for his sins -  link
  • David Berkowitz   - raised Jewish, baptised aged 20 and converted to Catholicism, but recently become a devout "born again Christian" who (as a play on his former nickname "Son of Sam", he now calls himself "Son of Hope" -   link
  • David Copeland   - although not a "Christian" in the traditional sense, Copeland would often read  anti-Semitic literature by extreme right wing Christian groups
  • Dean Arnold Corll   - raised Catholic by parents, attended various religious rallies and events but there's little evidence of strict religious belief
  • Dennis Nilsen   - he was raised as devout Catholic into a strictly religious household, but he is currently agnostic, learn more about Dennis Nilsen   here  
  • Dennis Rader   - was raised strictly Lutheran,  was a member of Christ Lutheran Church in Park City,  Wichita  (Kansas) and had been elected president of the church council -  link
  • Donald Henry Gaskins  - forced to attend church as a child, but not religious
  • Ed Gein   - raised by his mother Augusta Wilhelmine, who was a strict, uncaring and violent Lutheran, which is where many of Ed's sexual peculiarities stem from -   link
  • Gary Ridgway  -  became a devout Baptist (during his second marriage),  proselytising door-to-door, reading the  Bible  aloud at work/home and insisting his family followed the strict teachings, often crying whilst reading the Bible, was regarded as a religious fanatic -  link
  • H H Holmes  - devoutly and strict religious parents, his mother would often lock her children in the attic without food as a means of punishment for even the smallest of "sins" -   link
  • Dr Harold Shipman  - both Harold and his wife Primrose were raised as devout Methodists, which caused ructions in both families as they became pregnant within a few months of meeting and were unmarried, hence the need for a shotgun wedding -  link
  • Herbert Mullin   - started researching into "eastern religions" aged 20 and became obsessed with reincarnation after the death of his friend  Dean Richardson, although he would often  condemn Catholicism and then flip into being a fanatical Catholic -  link
  • Janie Lou Gibbs  - a devout Christian who murdered her  three sons, grandson and husband with rat poison, inherited $31000, and donated $3000 of that to the church -  link  
  • Jeffrey Dahmer  - born into a devout family of  the Stone-Campbell denomination known as the "Churches of Christ", he was an active churchgoer until age 5, renounced his religion (possibly owing to his sexuality) but was re-baptised during his incarceration -  link
  • Joel Rifkin  - raised in an adopted Jewish household, although would rarely abide by the ideals of his faith as (being adopted) he never felt like this was his religion -  link
  • John Wayne Gacy  - raised into a devout Catholic family, went to private Christian school, and aged 18 he thought about becoming a priest -  link
  • John Bodkin Adams  -  born into a deeply austere Protestant family of the  Plymouth Brethren , h is father, Samuel, was a preacher in the local congregation -  link
  • John George Haigh  -  his p arents were members of the  Plymouth Brethren , a conservative Protestant sect, who saw all forms of entertainment as sinful, so only stories from the bible were tolerated. As a child, Haigh was never allowed out, and his father installed a 10 foot high fence around their garden to keep the sins of the outside world away -  link
  • John Reginald Christie  - Anglican, a regular attendee at All Souls’ Church, Halifax -  link
  • Judy Buenoano  - insists she is a devout Roman Catholic -  link
  • Lee Boyd Malvo  - baptised as a Seventh Day Adventist in 1999 (aged 14),  but influenced by fellow "Washington sniper" John Allen Muhammad, Malvo converted to Islam -  link
  • Myra Hindley  - raised as a Catholic in a semi-religious family, Hindley was baptised as a Catholic on 16th August 1942 and regularly attended Holy Communion, although with Brady, Hindley renounced her Catholicism, but she later claimed to have become a reformed Catholic (in Holloway Prison when parole was mooted) -  link
  • Peter Manuel  - raised as a practising Catholic, he attended Park St Roman Catholic School in Motherwell (Scotland) and ended a 3 month engagement over religious differences -  link
  • Peter Sutcliffe  - raised as a Catholic, and would later claim that "the voice of God" had instructed him to kill fallen women (prostitutes), like he was on a "divine mission from God". In 2015, Sutcliffe was baptised as a Jehovah's Witness -  link
  • Peter Tobin  - born into an Irish Catholic family, he worked as  church  handyman  at St Patrick's Roman Catholic Church in  Anderston (Glasgow), he ran away with  the  Jesus Fellowship , a  religious  sect  in  Coventry, and he  is also believed to be the illusive serial-killer known as  Bible John
  • Robert “Willie” Pickton  - no evidence of being raised as a Christian, but in a series of letters he uses direct quotes from the Bible on numerous occasions -  link
  • Rodney Alcala  - raised in Catholic family, educated in both of Catholic and public schools, but by the age of 12 he'd had enough of religious education and became agnostic -  link
  • Ted Bundy  - baptised as a Mormon at the  LDS Church, Salt Lake City in 1974 under the name of Theodore Robert Cowell, his name remains on the Mormon roll -  link  
  • Timothy McVeigh  - raised Roman Catholic, confirmed  at the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton (New York) in 1995, but lost his faith along the way, informing to the Buffalo News that he was agnostic one day before his execution, and yet  he took the Last Rites before his execution, which were administered by Father Charles Smith -  link
 
 
 
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8.1  devangelical  replied to  lady in black @8    6 years ago

I had some holy roller asshole on my sales team years ago. He used church as an excuse to remove himself from the work schedule when it was convenient. He was always babbling on and on about his strict religious beliefs. Then I caught him stealing from his peers. He had hacked the phone system to steal sales appointments, was stealing customer referrals from the other sales people, and was post dating contracts to qualify for sales prizes and monthly bonuses. I fired his bible thumper ass.

He tried to go over my head to the owners and they were about to give him a second chance, until I informed them that they would likely be losing $2 million in sales while they trained a new sales team after word got out, or if I informed those that had been his victims if they asked, and that I would not be held responsible for any acts of retaliation against that POS. He got hired by a competitor and pulled the same sales stunts. They fired him.

He had imposed his strict religious beliefs on his 2 children. They had been home schooled and isolated from social interaction with non-church children their own age until high school. They did not adapt well. His daughter went to college and ended up with an illegitimate child and dropped out. She didn't know who the father was and is raising it with her mother. His son went through drug rehab 3 times and was getting ready to go again when his dad, who had been black balled in the industry and was no longer employable in it, decided to suck on a shotgun in the barn. His son OD'd less than a month later. I found out later that the thumper POS had been accused of molesting his own daughters child and had pulled the trigger 1 day before his interview by child protective services.

 

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Quiet
8.1.1  lady in black  replied to  devangelical @8.1    6 years ago

Guess they didn't add this family to their "bs scientific study".

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.2  devangelical  replied to  lady in black @8.1.1    6 years ago

first funeral that I was asked by more than one person not to attend. as if I would have. very sad what he did to his kids though. met his mom once, thumper wacko that had been married 4 times.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.4  devangelical  replied to    6 years ago

sorry it's not as colorful as your stories

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    6 years ago

His stories just drip with hatred of all who are believers in God.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.6  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.5    6 years ago

that's not true. just most of the self righteous born again scum.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @8.1.1    6 years ago

Funny how a Harvard study peer reviewed by an Oxford journal is bs when it has a result a secularist doesn’t like.  

 
 
 
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Professor Quiet
8.1.8  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.7    6 years ago

Never said I was a secularist, don't assume, you know what they say about assuming things you have no clue about.

 
 
 
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Professor Quiet
9  lady in black    6 years ago

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Professor Quiet
10  lady in black    6 years ago

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