Trump boosts Alan Dershowitz as report alleges lawyer was involved in sexual encounters with minors
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Trump boosts Alan Dershowitz as report alleges lawyer was involved in sexual encounters with minors
Shira Tarlo November 30, 2018
President Donald Trump amplified the famed attorney and constitutional scholar Alan Dershowitz just one day after it was revealed that Dershowitz allegedly enabled Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire pedophile who has been found guilty of abusing more than 80 women in a trans-Atlantic sex trafficking operation of underage girls. Dershowitz has also been accused of having sexual contact with underage girls.
Without acknowledging the serious allegations, Trump on Thursday invoked Dershowitz as he railed against special counsel Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation into allegations of collusion between his 2016 presidential campaign and Russia.
Trump wrote, "Alan Dershowitz: 'These are not crimes. He (Mueller) has no authority to be a roving Commissioner. I don't see any evidence of crimes.'"
Alan Dershowitz: “These are not crimes. He (Mueller) has no authority to be a roving Commissioner. I don’t see any evidence of crimes.” This is an illegal Hoax that should be ended immediately. Mueller refuses to look at the real crimes on the other side. Where is the IG REPORT?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 30, 2018
"This is an illegal Hoax that should be ended immediately," the president continued. "Mueller refuses to look at the real crimes on the other side. Where is the IG REPORT?"
The president's tweet comes just one day after the Miami Herald published an in-depth expose about how rump's Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, while working as a prosecutor in Miami, allowed Epstein to face unusually lenient charges and sentencing for sex-related crimes against minors. As the report notes, Epstein was "accused of assembling a large, cult-like network of underage girls — with the help of young female recruiters — to coerce into having sex acts behind the walls of his opulent waterfront mansion as often as three times a day, the town of Palm Beach Police found."
While the damning report largely centers on Epstein's crimes and how Acosta went to great lengths to tend to the demands of Epstein's legal team , it also contains accusations that, while working as Epstein's lawyer, Dershowitz engaged in sexual encounters with underage girls.
Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's accusers, claimed that she was "loaned" by Epstein to Dershowitz. The Herald notes that, in a 2015 court affidavit, Roberts wrote, "I had sexual intercourse with Dershowitz at least six times. The first time was when I was about 16, early on in my servitude to Epstein and it continued until I was 19." The trysts, she wrote, allegedly happened at Epstein's homes in Palm Beach, New Mexico and on Epstein's island in the Caribbean.
Dershowitz has vehemently denied the accusations, telling the Herald that he never met Roberts and that he never saw Epstein with any underage girls.
"The story was 100 percent flatly categorically made-up," he said. Dershowitz also claimed that Roberts and her attorneys fabricated the allegations "so she could get money."
During his tenure as Epstein's lawyer, Dershowitz was accused of attempting to undermine the case by hiring private investigators to gather background on the girls, their families and the police. According to the Herald, "Police reports show that Epstein's private investigators attempted to conduct interviews while posing as cops; that they picked through [Palm Beach Police Chief Michael] Reiter's trash in search of dirt to discredit him; and that the private investigators were accused of following the girls and their families. In one case, the father of one girl claimed he had been run off the road by a private investigator, police and court reports show."
Dershowitz denied these allegations, as well, telling the Herald that "he had nothing to do with gathering background on the girls — or in directing anyone to follow the police, or the girls and their families."
"I'm not an investigator," he continued. "My only job was to negotiate and try the case when it comes to trial."
Still, the newspaper alleges that Dershowitz convinced then-Palm Beach state attorney Barry Krischer that the girls "would not be credible on the witness stand."
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Salon? LOL Your posting this story from that far left wing source, an UNPROVEN SMEAR of a reputable jurist, has now justified my posting any story I want from Gatestone Institute and not be concerned about HYPOCRITICAL criticism. I hope he sues the ass off of Salon and breaks them into bankruptcy.
John, considering that this story contains a deliberate false libel, perhaps you should distance yourself from it - If I were you I would delete it.
The Salon article is based on a story that appeared in the Miami Herald, a major and respectable American newspaper. The Salon story both quotes from the Miami Herald story and contains a link to it.
If so, why did you not choose to post the Miami Herald story? What is the difference between them?
I cannot open the link to the Miami Herald. Does it castigate Dershowitz for having sexual encounters with underage girls? If no, then he has been smeared by Salon AND ANYONE WHO REPRODUCES SALON'S ARTICLE. Seems to me that ultra-liberals are like those species who cannibalize their own kind.
Oh, just noticed this:
Were the allegations in a perjured affidavit alleging misconduct on the part of Dershowitz WITHDRAWN or not? If they were BEFORE the Salon article was published, then you, John, have perpetuated a falsehood. If the Salon article was published before the perjured allegation was withdrawn, then you have only republished a falsehood. Live with it.
Everything Trump Touches Dies
ETTD!!!
Just goes to show that even those who are pointing fingers have dirt under their nails too, They're all a bunch of hypocrites looking to slaughter sacrificial goats to keep people from looking too closely at their own crimes. Need to put them ALL under the jail!
Dershowitz came to fame defending Claus Von Bulow...
You either believe everyone has the right to a fair trial or you don't.
Successfully - He is a BRILLIANT Jurist.
Maybe he can get Netanyahu and his wife off their corruption charges...
Alan Dershowitz has turned himself into a Donald Trump lackey, and sadly for him that will be in his obituary too.
LOL. You are SO quick with those accusations. You consider me a Donald Trump lackey because I agree with his move of the Embassy to Israel's real capital, and you consider Dershowitz a Trump lackey because he stated the truth about Trump's rights under your holy Constitution - what a fucking sin that was, eh?
Buzz, the story is from a major American newspaper, the Miami Herald, not Salon. Salon just repeated it.
If the Miami Herald retracts the story I will take it down. I don't believe they have.
In the meantime, make sure you take all your blood pressure medications, judging from how you are reacting to this article.
Oh yes, at my age it is common and advisable to take such medication, and I do, and my blood pressure remains as always, actually that of a much younger man.
Sorry John, but you see it was my professional training and my principles that has me dealing with injustices when I see them - the same as it is for Dershowitz.
And a media celebrity whore.
Prediction: This "story" goes the way of the Guardian "story" on "the Assange connection."
Clinton was a long time flyer on the Lolita Express (and ditched his secret service escort for privacy). Liberals are fine with that.
For the crazed left wing progressives, Dershowitz's sin isn't having sex with underage women, it's holding Mueller to the Constitution and due process. They'd rather not discuss the substance of his arguments, so they slime him. If he followed the party line, he could rape all the minors he wanted and be embraced as a hero. (see Bill Clinton).
Or make a movie and win Best Director, get standing ovations, etc.
I hear Clinton also started WWII and the Civil War and maybe all the wars of human history.
Whether it's this issue or something else, I will never understand why Trump tweets questions. He does it all the time, especially stuff like "Why isn't the Attorney General investigating [x]?" or "Why is the FBI ignoring [y]?"
I mean, he's the president, not a regular citizen with no power or contacts. All of these people actually work for him. He could call them any time and they would answer. Instead he tweets questions. More than anything else, this thing about Trump absolutely baffles me.
He has no actual interest in answers, that's why he doesn't ask those who could provide them. His tweet "questions" are simply rhetorical, they are designed to get his base nodding their heads and imagining the worst possible answer to Trumps rhetorical questions. For example "Why is the FBI ignoring [y]?" is intended to get his base thinking "It must be the Deep State!" or "It's Obama's FBI agents trying to protect Hillary!".
The saddest thing about it is how effective it actually is, he has his base so bamboozled they'll believe virtually anything he tells them.
It's always a weird choice. He's either diabolically brilliant, or he's got all the sense of your average trailer-park-living, wife-beater-wearing hillbilly. I still can't decide.
That is so sad.
Don't get too proud. The media and his political opponents have the same problem. On the same day, the same people will accuse him of being stupid or insane, while simultaneously accusing him of masterminding the most brilliant coverup in the history of politics.
That sounds like how rightwingers have always accused every Dem president. You're forgetting your script. But, just for the record Scumbag is horrible at, how did you describe it:
First of all, a pause for
. How was admitting to Lester Holt that he fired Comey because of the "Russia thing" a brilliant coverup? And telegraphing his intent to pardon anyone who doesn't give him up being a "mastermind." Oh, and the really sly move of putting a goon who has openly claimed the Mueller investigation is illegal IN CHARGE OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. Scumbag has done just about everything but write the word GUILTY in big read letters on his forehead. Only his toadies think he's got some "brilliant" strategy at work. And, again, That Is So Sad.
Like always, she should go ahead and prove it. If true, I'll be just as angry and disappointed as I was in Bill Cosby. But I won't believe it just because the accusation is made.
Oh, that's not at all true. You've been all-in and pushed every unsubstantiated and even proven false accusation against at least one prominent politician.
I have? When?
Oh, so you DON'T believe HRC committed any crimes as regards emails or the Clinton foundation?
I honestly don't know for sure. "Belief" in these things isn't really how I roll. However, I don't think either one of those issues was "unsubstantiated." I'm not an expert on the laws she is alleged to have broken. I frankly, found both scandals kind of boring. I'm sure they're very important, but they're not very entertaining.
Either way, I don't think those two are issues are "every" claim made against her and I certainly been "all-in" or "pushed" either one.
IOW, you did assume she was guilty of everything she's been accused of and probably still do despite investigations out the wazoo have show bupkis.
No, not "in other words." Your other words create other meaning. I don't assume anything. I can see that there is good reason for investigating her, something she and her people have not been very cooperative about, by the way.
It was proven to be false in the past. She's a liar and a grifter.
She was one of the many Epstein's victims and was one of theplaintiffs in the case for which he was found guilty and then given a sham sentence. The prosecution and jury didn't think she or any of the other girls were "liars and grifters." So try another smear.
I guess the lefties felt betrayed when their LIBERAL DEMOCRAT BRILLIANT JURIST actually followed the Constitution to say that Trump did not deserve being accused of something (notwithstanding that he has said he didn't vote for Trump) so they are doing their very best to emulate how they tried to stop the appointment of Kavanaugh to the Bench. SMEAR SMEAR SMEAR
EVERYBODY MUST GET SMEARED (With apologies to Bob Dylan)
Well, they'll smear ya when you're trying to be so good
They'll smear ya just a-like they said they would
They'll smear ya when you're tryin' to go home
Then they'll smear ya when you're there all alone
But I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
Well, they'll smear ya when you're walkin' 'long the street
They'll smear ya when you're tryin' to keep your seat
They'll smear ya when you're walkin' on the floor
They'll smear ya when you're walkin' to the door
But I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
They'll smear ya when you're at the breakfast table
They'll smear ya when you are young and able
They'll smear ya when you're tryin' to make a buck
They'll smear ya and then they'll say, "Good luck"
Tell ya what, I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
Well, they'll smear you and say that it's the end
Then they'll smear you and then they'll come back again
They'll smear you when you're riding in your car
They'll smear you when you're playing your guitar
Yes, but I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
Well, they'll smear a lawyer who is really bright
It matters not he always does what's right
They'll smear him even if he's one of theirs
They'll lie and say he had sinful affairs
Yes, but I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
So Dershowitz, a liberal Democrat
Is now called by his party dirty rat
It is the only game that they do know
Under the bus their own they even throw
Yes, but I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
The leftist media now can beam with glory
It succeeded in posting a false story
To blacken a good person's reputation
So liberals can have a celebration
But I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
Well, they'll smear you when you walk all alone
They'll smear you when you are walking home
They'll smear you and then say you are brave
They'll smear you when you are set down in your grave
But I would not feel so all a'feared
Everybody must get smeared
At least you could have looked up what Dershowitz's position actually is instead of bullshitting about it. Dershowitz is simply reiterating the same argument he made against special prosecutor Ken Starr's investigation of Clinton--i.e., that they stray too far from their initial mandate. Of course, people like you attacked Dershowitz then and were all for Starr going whereever he wanted to go and now having it shoved down your throat. Dershowitz has never said anything remotely like Scumbag didn't deserve to be accused. In fact, Mueller hasn't accused Scumbag of anything...yet. So Dersh is a bit premature in his criticism and he also seems to have not read the order that created the appointment of the special counsel. It's very brief and direct. Here it is:
Note that in addition to investigating "any links" between Russian government officials, etc, it also states:
" ANY MATTERS that arose or may arise from the investigation and any other matters within the scope of the [General Powers of the Special Counsel statute]"
So, the only way to keep this kind of investigation coming up whenever government corruption is suspected is to get rid of the special counsel statute. I wonder how many of you would really want that seeing as how you loved them when Dems were in the crosshairs.
People like me? I recall reading his words elsewhere that he does not support Trump, yet he was being attacked for defending Trump's rights to do something. I have NEVER attacked Dershowitz. I've admired him for decades, and if I'm wrong about something your comments could at least be worded civilly, is that difficult for you?
No my friend it isn't possible....
Remember? this started out as a trashing of Dersh as a sexual pervert and predator, and he was all up on piling on and heaping derision on that issue. very shortly he and the articles poster wound up with egg all over their faces on that issue, then he tries to deflect it into using Dersh's position on guns against others which didn't get any where now he's diverting again to T-rump since the gun issue didn't go anywhere....
And of course this is John's article where any and all of his attempts to deflect is perfectly fine with him.... (no matter how superfluous or off topic it may be)
Not worth responding to my friend, Be gracious enough and allow them to wear the egg on their faces over the bogus sexual abuse allegations proudly...
They've earned it......
We are in total agreement.
UPDATE:
Alan Dershowitz, the former Harvard law professor and prominent civil-liberties attorney, wrote this response to the Salon article referenced below , published on Nov. 30. That article was primarily sourced from an earlier report in the Miami Herald that mentioned a 2015 affidavit containing allegations against Dershowitz. He has consistently and vigorously denied those allegations, and here supplies evidence that they were withdrawn. Our earlier article has been updated and clarified to reflect this.To the Editor,
In your recent story titled “ Trump boosts Alan Dershowitz as report alleges lawyer was involved in sexual encounters with minors ” you level outright false claims that “while working as Epstein’s lawyer, Dershowitz engaged in sexual encounters with underage girls.” While you misleadingly use the plural “girls,” the accusation you refer to is one that claims I had sexual encounters with Virginia Roberts. These are exactly the same false claims that were made in 2014 and were thoroughly disproved and withdrawn.
After leveling these claims in detail, you say that I “vehemently denied the accusations.”
Not only did I deny the claims, I conclusively disproved them. I produced my travel, phone, credit card, and TV appearance records conclusively proving I could not have been and was not in any of the places Roberts claims I was during the time that she knew Epstein. The former director of the FBI, assisted by a former assistant U.S. attorney and a chief federal marshal, reviewed these records and the other evidence and concluded that “the totality of the evidence found during the investigation refutes the allegations.” The judge struck Roberts' affidavit and sanctioned her lawyers for filing it, and her lawyers then withdrew their accusation admitting that it was a mistake. After reviewing the evidence, ABC News canceled their plan to show an interview with Roberts because she was not credible.
There is other evidence, currently under seal, that directly establishes my innocence. I am seeking to unseal emails between Roberts and a journalist, a book manuscript by Roberts and a legal brief that are smoking guns showing that I was “deliberately framed for financial reasons.”
There is also irrefutable evidence that Roberts lied about other people for money. She told a British tabloid that she met Al and Tipper Gore on Epstein’s island and she swore that she had dinner with Bill Clinton on the island. But Secret Service records prove that none of these people were on the island. Indeed, the Gores didn’t even know Epstein.
I have a tape recording of a conversation with Roberts' closest friend in which she says that Roberts told her she “felt pressure to go after [Dershowitz]” in order to obtain money from a wealthy businessman and that Roberts had never previously included me among the people with whom she claimed to have had sex.
One of Roberts' own lawyers has acknowledged in front of witnesses that Roberts’ claims against me are “wrong” “simply wrong.” The evidence of my innocence is indisputable: I never met Roberts; I never had sex with her; she simply made up the entire story for money.
Roberts made her false claims against me in court documents that immunize her from being sued for defamation. I challenge her to repeat her false accusations out of court, so that I can sue her for defamation and let a jury decide — after seeing all the evidence including the emails and book manuscript — who is telling the truth and who is lying.
Excellent update! Thank you!
I must say that Salon did the right thing by publishing Dershowitz's letter - I would respect Salon if it were to investigate the truth of what he said and apologize for publishing a libel, but then that would be an admission that could lead to a healthy libel judgment against them.
Unfortunately that is the state of modern "journalism". They run with a story they like without any background checks.
He wire-tapped somebody? How did he get that?
We could have told you [Deleted] [skirting the CoC] how risky it is to embrace Dershowitz. He's a media whore who'll do anything to get himself in the spotlight for being a "maverick" and who may have a bigger egomaniacal streak than your Scumbag. [Deleted] [no value]
Read the thread, particularly @14.
Here's some reading for you:
Alan Dershowitz: 2nd Amendment ‘An Absurd Thing’ In Our Constitution
And I don't think you can object to the source on this one.
I agree with Dershowitz - but then I'm a Canadian so I'm used to more stringent gun controls and agree with them.
What in the wide world of sports does his position on the 2nd Amendment have to with him being falsely accused of raping minors?
I'm totally lost what your point is especially after you follow it up with this....
So are you talking to yourself or what?
I can't help you with your comprehension.
No, he's moving the goal posts, Completely wrong about Dershowitz on the sexual allegation story, he shifts over to the gun angle where Dersh shows his liberalism more openly....
Mind you it is also an unknowing shot hes taking there also cause he hasn't really read Dersh on his gun stance either, but he's good at making assumptions.....
Anyway, he's all wet behind the ears on the sex abuse thing... and he's trying to hide that fact....
Hows that for comprehension?
My comprehension is that you are a follower of Dershowitz when it suits your ideology.
How do you guys do that....y'know, in your minds, that any and every allegation at all is 100% true against any lib/dem/anyone else you agree with but never when it's a con/rep? I mean, it never works for you but you always try it.
And that applies to you as well, which was my point that began this thread so again, can't help you with your miscomprehension problem (which seems to be deliberate anyway).
I don't give one hooten damn for the political affiliations of the accused...
I look at the EVIDENCE!
So I'm going to ask you a question....
How does your side do that....y'know, in your minds, that any and every allegation at all is 100% true against any Conservative/Republican/anyone else you [dis] agree with but never when it's a lib/dem? I mean, it never works for you but you always try it.
Care to explain that one? How about explaining it in the Kavanaugh context being the most current plain example of character assassination promulgated by one side against the other.
That's sweet but also not at all what this discussion is about.
Of course it isn't, it's about poking the balloon trying to find out which one pops....
Weird you'd go for your weakest possible example of a "victim" there possibly could be. He lied his ass off so many times I'm surprised he can sit anymore.
psssssstttttt....
You know what that is?
It's the air pissing out of your balloon....
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It is soooo much fun watching [Deleted] slobber all over Dershowitz. Do they even know what his views on the second amendment are?
Well, old perverts who prey on young girls certainly do stick together, don't they?
And just who are the pervs you are referring to....... certainly not anyone on the site? Correct?
I hope not cause it certainly can be inferred from your blind statement....