Thinking about what's right in America

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Thinking about what's right in America
This all tells me that America is still a land of dreams and opportunity. Are there things wrong with this country? Certainly. But there still is plenty that is right. Those who choose to uproot from nations all over the world to come here and start their lives anew are interested in what is right, not what is wrong. I like this quote from former TV personality Art Linkletter, who observed, "Things turn out the best for the people who make the best of the way things turn out." There's an...

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Those who choose to uproot from nations all over the world to come to America and start their lives anew are interested in what is right, not what is wrong. The U.S. is still a land of dreams and opportunity.


Amid this holiday season of reflection, I'm thinking about America's future.

A new poll from Gallup serves up some sobering data regarding how young Americans feel about their country.

Gallup asked the question, "Do you think the U.S. has a unique character that makes it the greatest country in the world, or don't you think so?"

Eighty percent said "yes," America is the greatest country, in 2010 and 78 percent said yes in 2018.

However, among 18- to 34-year-olds, 80 percent said yes in 2010 but this dropped by 18 percentage points in 2018 to 62 percent.

It's troubling to think that now 4 out of 10 young Americans do not see their nation as exceptional and the greatest in the world.

Maybe there is a sense creeping into our youth that America is no longer the land of opportunity that it once was.

In a 2017 Pew Research Global Attitudes & Trends survey, only 37 percent of Americans said they believed so when asked, "When children today grow up, will they be better off financially than their parents?" This compared with 82 percent in China (in 2016), 69 percent in Chile and 50 percent in Israel.

According to recent data from the Brookings Institution, just 50 percent of those born in 1984 earn more than their parents, compared with 61 percent of those born in 1970 and 79 percent of those born in 1950.

But if America's youth are losing a sense that this is a land of dreams, this sentiment doesn't seem to be shared by the million immigrants who arrive in the U.S. every year.

According to a new study by the National Foundation for American Policy, 55 percent of privately held startup companies in the U.S. now worth more than a billion dollars were started by immigrants from 25 different countries.

The study reports that the collective value of these firms founded by immigrants is $248 billion and each company employs an average of 1,200 people.

Most of these immigrant entrepreneurs came to the U.S. to study as international students and chose to stay and become citizens. However, some arrived as refugees and were sponsored by family members.

This all tells me that America is still a land of dreams and opportunity. Are there things wrong with this country? Certainly. But there still is plenty that is right.

Those who choose to uproot from nations all over the world to come here and start their lives anew are interested in what is right, not what is wrong.

I like this quote from former TV personality Art Linkletter, who observed, "Things turn out the best for the people who make the best of the way things turn out."

There's an important point here. Success is not just about one's circumstances, but also what is happening inside of each individual – one's character.

The holidays are a good time to think about this.

I suggest two things. First, let's look at what is right about America. And second, let every American ask themselves if they truly believe they are the best they can be, and if not, why not?

Let's each take personal responsibility to make ourselves and our country as great as possible and stop thinking that it's others and circumstances that block our path.

I think the nation would soar, even with the things that are wrong, if all Americans got out of bed each morning with the sense that what happens to them is not because of anything but what they themselves choose to do. And, if at the same time, we related to ourselves and everyone else as created in the image of God.

We all would discover how much power each of us has and we all would discover how great America is, because it is free.

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Heartland American
1  seeder  Heartland American    4 days ago

“Let's each take personal responsibility to make ourselves and our country as great as possible and stop thinking that it's others and circumstances that block our path.

I think the nation would soar, even with the things that are wrong, if all Americans got out of bed each morning with the sense that what happens to them is not because of anything but what they themselves choose to do. And, if at the same time, we related to ourselves and everyone else as created in the image of God.

We all would discover how much power each of us has and we all would discover how great America is, because it is free.”

 
 
pat wilson
1.1  pat wilson  replied to  Heartland American @1    4 days ago
And, if at the same time, we related to ourselves and everyone else as created in the image of God.

Then stop seeding articles that declare all on the left, the progressives and the liberals are all the spawn of satan.

 
 
Heartland American
1.1.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  pat wilson @1.1    4 days ago

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Texan1211
1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.1    4 days ago

removed for context

 
 
Heartland American
1.1.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    4 days ago

Neither one of them....

 
 
Heartland American
1.1.4  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  pat wilson @1.1    4 days ago

I can’t help it that that is what they really are.  Nice way to inject negativity into a positive seed.  It is the secular progressive way.  

 
 
Texan1211
1.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.4    4 days ago

removed for context

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.4    4 days ago
I can’t help it

Yes, we are all very aware of that fact.

 
 
pat wilson
1.1.7  pat wilson  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.4    4 days ago

You inject negativity into this forum on a daily basis, you've got no room to talk.

 
 
321steve
1.1.8  321steve  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.4    4 days ago
I can’t help it that that is what they really are.

Then why bother conferring with us ? 

There are other chatrooms much more conservative that you could spend your time at. 

Chatrooms that wont even let people like me have a say.

Yet each day you chose to come spend time with us. Why ?

Nice way to inject negativity into a positive seed.

Reality is what it is.

 
 
321steve
1.1.9  321steve  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.5    4 days ago
Some can't help themselves.

True and that's not ideologically exclusive. 

 
 
Heartland American
1.1.10  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  321steve @1.1.8    4 days ago

You are a progress now?  I thought you were passing yourself off as an independent moderate, conservative on fiscal issues and liberal on social issues and now when I say something about progressives you refer to them as if you are one.  

 
 
Heartland American
1.1.11  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  321steve @1.1.8    4 days ago

You are coming out as a progressive now?  I thought you claimed to be independent?   I have conservative friends here who appreciate and like my seeded content.  I’m Not going anywhere.  

 
 
321steve
1.1.12  321steve  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.11    3 days ago
You are coming out as a progressive now?  I thought you claimed to be independent?

I consider myself {a pragmatist, realistically moderate, an independent and progressive Deist with both some conservative and liberal tendencies, depending on the issue or subject.}

Hard to pigeon-hole that one. Drives me nuts sometimes, but I’m not. My mother had me tested.

Although it has been suggested, I be retested. But, At this point, I see no point of it.  lol

 
 
Studiusbagus
1.1.13  Studiusbagus  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.11    yesterday
I have conservative friends here who appreciate and like my seeded content.  I’m Not going anywhere.  

Don't bet on it. You are so close to the exit door I can feel the cold draft coming from under the sill. No matter who you think your friends are, you won't be followed.

 
 
Heartland American
1.1.14  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Studiusbagus @1.1.13    21 hours ago

I’m not going anywhere and I’m certainly not asking anyone to follow me anywhere else. I can understand that you wish that I’d leave. 

 
 
Studiusbagus
1.1.15  Studiusbagus  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.14    19 hours ago

I don't give a fuck if you leave or not. I love being able to point out the hypocracy of calling oneself a Christian and being caught promoting lies. 

And nobody cares what trolls follow you that you want to call friends.

You can bleat that you're not going anywhere as your defiant stand when the fact is you may not have a choice and you and I both know it.

And if you doubt me, keep swimming in that pool.

 
 
cjcold
1.1.16  cjcold  replied to  321steve @1.1.8    19 hours ago

He/it has been paid for many years to disrupt liberal sites.

 
 
321steve
1.1.17  321steve  replied to  cjcold @1.1.16    18 hours ago
He/it has been paid for many years to disrupt liberal sites.

I hear that from time to time about different posters, But I've yet to see a poster who I believed that much about. Including HA. 

Personally I haven't seem anyone I'd pay ta post anyway. Including me. LOL And especially back on nv. I never saw anyone there that I would have paid even a dime an hour ta post...lol 

I've taken the time and watched how I put stuff and have had the pleasure of interacting with many different people of different ideologies on here. Including HA. We seem to actually have some stuff in common especially in childhood.

I do think sometimes some people (including myself occasionally ) get too wrapped up in our believes and push it too far. I used to go to the Fox web chat room. I think HA's ideology would be much better accepted at a more conservative site yet he continues to come here.

In a way I dont blame him. One sided chat rooms or echo chambers aren't worth patronising in my opinion either. That's one of the reasons I tried Fox, Unfortunately they didn't agree, soon my posts were poofed instantly. that of course sucked and I was done there. 

I appreciate this site for keeping up what I post and what others have to say as well.

And many times I wish we were all more cordial to each other, IMO: Our politicians and our media are all of our real enemies at this point, They divide us for their profit and power. Not us. We are their pawns and when needed cannon fodder. 

 
 
Blissful Arrogance
1.2  Blissful Arrogance  replied to  Heartland American @1    yesterday

I am planning to write a similar article echoing the sentiments expressed here.

 
 
321steve
2  321steve    4 days ago

It's troubling to think that now 4 out of 10 young Americans do not see their nation as exceptional and the greatest in the world.

Personally I dont find this surprising, Although I have always known that we really are one of the best if not the best country in the world by nature of our constitution and how our government is designed puting the people themselves in charge.

(At least in theory) 

I think the youth of today have grown up in a devided America. This division shows the ugly side of both sides quite often it's no wonder the young people don't want more of it. It's disgusting actually. We all share ONE land both ideological sides can not have their own way all the time. 

With Today's american government working to get elected usually takes so much money the candidates are actually more indebted to their financial backers than they are to the people who vote for them. That's a major problem. That problem ripples throughout the whole system corrupting it, no wonder the USA is losing admiration. It should.

Just my opinion and I dont think it's gonna change easily. This division is too profitable both in wealth and power for the politicians and media. 

In a way We the people have lost control of our country. I hope we wake up soon but, I don't know that we will.

Good Luck America

 
 
Heartland American
2.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  321steve @2    4 days ago

That’s why so many went with Trump.  To drain the swamp and overturn the establishment.  

 
 
321steve
2.1.1  321steve  replied to  Heartland American @2.1    3 days ago
That’s why so many went with Trump.  To drain the swamp and overturn the establishment.

To me it looks like the swamp changed hands but it sure still seems like a swamp.  Still sucking and stinkin like one at least.  

 
 
livefreeordie
2.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  321steve @2.1.1    3 days ago

Until we purge the intelligence community, the career bureaucrats, and the lifetime politicians in Congress we will continue to have a swamp.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @2.1.2    3 days ago
Until we purge the intelligence community

Until we get money out of politics nothing will change. The career intelligence community are one of the few groups mostly free of big donor money influence. They are civil servants whose careers are not dependent on making a campaign fund minimum every two or six years. You just currently hate the fact that they're investigating the career criminal now in the white house.

 
 
321steve
2.1.4  321steve  replied to  livefreeordie @2.1.2    3 days ago

IMO: Until our politicians start putting our country's best interests ahead of their own interests and their parties interests not a damn thing will change for the better. 

 
 
321steve
2.1.5  321steve  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.3    3 days ago
Until we get money out of politics nothing will change.

Bingo, Grab a handful of cigars from the pile. 

 
 
Studiusbagus
2.1.6  Studiusbagus  replied to  livefreeordie @2.1.2    yesterday
Until we purge the intelligence community,

That's already been shown by looking at his base.

 
 
MrFrost
2.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @2.1    19 hours ago
That’s why so many went with Trump.

Funny....he lost the majority of voters too. 

 
 
Sparty On
2.2  Sparty On  replied to  321steve @2    3 days ago

It is very complicated but IMO there is plenty of blame to go around and it starts with previous generations.   Every generation wants the next (their kids) to have it better than they had it.   Thats just human nature and hard to argue against.  

And in trying to do so i believe we are rapidly approaching (or have passed) a point of no return where that is realistically possible.   Expectations of the younger generation are high and largely unrealistic because previous generations promised them that way.   So much drives it.   Here's a couple of them:

- Participation trophy mentality.   God forbid anyone doesn't feel like they came in "first place" in any life related activity.   No losers and all winners is not a realistic expectation.   This mentality does no one any favors.

- Education indoctrination, every kid is encouraged to get a college degree when some clearly aren't meant to do so and there simple aren't enough good paying jobs for everyone if they did.   So they are justifiable pissed off for being given that false promise.   Not their fault.   Blame the people making those unrealistic promises

That said i agree money is corrupting government but its naive to think that removing that influence is going to fix everything people want fixed.   Some of that lobbying gets you what you want, so you'd be losing that influence as well.

With that in mind i think much of the angst in the US has always been here in some form or another.   It ebbs and flows with historical events.   Don't believe me?   How do you think most Americans were feeling in 1862 after Fredricksburg?

 
 
Studiusbagus
2.2.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  Sparty On @2.2    yesterday

HOLY SHIT!!

I read that all the way through twice and actually thought. "That's a well writtent, thought out comment" 

Somebody pick my fat ass up off the floor please?

 
 
cjcold
2.2.2  cjcold  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2.1    18 hours ago

In spite of the poor grammar and spelling?

 
 
321steve
2.2.3  321steve  replied to  cjcold @2.2.2    18 hours ago
In spite of the poor grammar and spelling?

spelling and grammar are memorized intelligence. That is not the only kind of intelligence. 

Myself I screwed around at the age we learned those skills. Later I got serous, I still have plenty of problems with both spelling and grammar but I sure dont consider myself dumb, stupid or not intelligent.

PS:I also happened to agreed with sparty on's post and had no problem following what he meant. In fact If not for your mentioning It I wouldn't  have given it a second thought and still think it was just fine for this or any chat room especially.  I dont even bother to fix all my own screw ups some times on here that I see. So.... 

 
 
devangelical
4  devangelical    4 days ago
... as created in the image of God.

blah, blah, blah.

A bullshit seed from a bullshit source. Nothing but a bible thumper tap dance around their silly beliefs that America has turned to shit ever since the SCOTUS rightfully kicked religion out of public schools and that white xtian immigrants deserve to get fast tracked into the US first. America will never truly be free until we're free of the parasitic subculture fringe that demands a seat at the head of the national table, without bringing a single covered dish to the American buffet. Free will is an inalienable right, granted by the creator, to not choose to be associated with any self ordained and self empowered religious organizations created by man with the sole purposes of subjugating others and negating their individual freedom of choice, in other words, their free will. Why would some omnipotent and universal entity need the assistance of a group of self righteous morons that have twisted his ideals to benefit themselves exclusively?

 
 
Heartland American
4.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  devangelical @4    3 days ago

Well according to secular progressives there is nothing right about America worth protecting and preserving since as the democrat governor of NY said that America was “never that great”.  We disagree.  

 
 
devangelical
4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @4.1    3 days ago
there is nothing right about America worth protecting and preserving

context matters. read it again.

 
 
Heartland American
4.1.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  devangelical @4.1.1    2 days ago

There is no legitimate context for maintaining that America was never that great or that there’s nothing right about our God given country.  

 
 
pat wilson
4.1.3  pat wilson  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.2    2 days ago
no legitimate context for maintaining that America was never that great

Really ? Then why all the maga maga bullshit ? America was great in many ways, long before the petulant fat toddler was somehow elected.

 
 
Phoenyx13
4.1.4  Phoenyx13  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.2    2 days ago
There is no legitimate context for maintaining that America was never that great or that there’s nothing right about our God given country.

i can agree - but i'm a bit surprised you are making that point since you currently support "Making America Great Again" which means, if you know English, that you thought America wasn't that great and support it having to be made great again. So was America great under Obama ?

 
 
Heartland American
4.1.5  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.3    yesterday

He was elected by the will of God.  He is as another seed said, on a mission from God.  

 
 
Heartland American
4.1.6  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Phoenyx13 @4.1.4    yesterday

Not as great as it was before him or after him.  

 
 
321steve
4.1.7  321steve  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.5    yesterday
 He is as another seed said, on a mission from God.

That's about as realistic as this:

 
 
321steve
4.1.8  321steve  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.6    yesterday
Not as great as it was before him or after him.  

Your enthrallment with this manipulator is sad to me. Good luck to you. 

 
 
MUVA
4.1.9  MUVA  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.3    yesterday

What was hope and change what exactly was Obama changing?

 
 
MUVA
4.1.10  MUVA  replied to  321steve @4.1.8    yesterday

 It is no different then what we got with Obama sycophants are abound in this country. 

 
 
321steve
4.1.11  321steve  replied to  MUVA @4.1.10    yesterday
 It is no different then what we got with Obama sycophants are abound in this country. 

Maybe not , But Somehow I never saw Obama an d his supporters as cult like as trump and his followers seem to be. There is some similarities but trump has people in thralled beyond seeing reality way more in my opinion. 

 
 
321steve
4.1.12  321steve  replied to  MUVA @4.1.9    yesterday
What was hope and change what exactly was Obama changing?

The stock market,the housing market and the job report. cause when Obama took office all that was in the shitter. 

It Wasn't when trump took over though so...  I'd say it worked. 

My question is how is much of what trump has done made America great so far ?

Maybe after the investigations are all done it'll be great, Right now it all seems kinda messy though. 

 
 
Phoenyx13
4.1.13  Phoenyx13  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.6    19 hours ago
Not as great as it was before him or after him.

so you do agree that America was great under Obama and not terrible so there was no need to "Make America Great Again" since it was already great ?

 
 
lib50
5  lib50    4 days ago

At this point in time, the USA has little to be proud of.  We are led by a compulsive liar who has humiliated, embarrassed and damaged the reputation of the country, something that won't  be easy to get back, if ever.  He doesn't know anything about governing and spends most of his time watching cable news.  We are the asshole country of the world at the moment, led by the big one.  I don't blame the young for not considering America exceptional, we most assuredly are not, and are falling further behind every day.  And what's with the sudden love of immigrants?  Kind of a weird pivot.   Conservatives are not even for legal immigration these days and use fear of immigrants to win political battles.

 
 
Heartland American
5.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  lib50 @5    4 days ago

There is much to be proud of in America.  We are an exceptional nation, a shining city on a hill.  The American experience is one of greatness.  The more disgusted and less proud progressives are with America,  the better we and it’s principles are doing.  God bless America! 🇺🇸 

 
 
321steve
5.1.1  321steve  replied to  Heartland American @5.1    3 days ago

I agree with most of your post. I think the youth of today and some progressives are just sick of the two parties doing more fighting  with each other than working together to build a better nation. ME included. 

When and IF the majority in both parties realize that not ONE party can have it all their own way and the nation returns to compromising to solve our problems I think we will all be better off. 

As an American who refuses to be a part of the division much I sit by and watch this shit show and feel sad hoping and waiting for this to change. 

So far its been a long wait, and I see NO end to it in sight. So fight on folks I got more popcorn cookin and an easy chair waiting. 

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Heartland American @5.1    3 days ago
There is much to be proud of in America.

Very true, just not the racist conservative underbelly that Trump and his base represent.

I'm proud of America for eliminating slavery, for ditching segregation, for overturning the conservative bans on interracial marriage and gay marriage, for supporting workers right to unionize, for pushing for racial and gender equality in every facet of American life, from the military to our businesses, working to make America a more perfect union. I'm not so proud of that segment of America who continue to pine for the days of old, when their race, their culture and their religion reigned supreme, those who call themselves conservative Republicans. They and their Dear Leader are the ultimate embarrassment for patriotic Americans. I've voted for Republicans, Democrats and Independents over the last 40 years, and none of them looked anything like the swamp creature now sliming the oval office with his putrid filth. How anyone could be proud of that narcissistic perverted waste of space is truly beyond me.

 
 
Spikegary
5.2  Spikegary  replied to  lib50 @5    3 days ago

If you can only find little to be proud of, I encourage you to emigrate to a country that you can be far more proud of. 

We are still the nation of peole that give more than any other cvountry on earth, to herlp others.  We do R&D on medicines to help people live longer more fulfilling lives while trying to eradicate as many diseases as possible.  Our inventions, big and small are used around the world.  It's sad to see people that have no appreciation for the country they live in-again, please feel free to move on to some place you appreoctae more.  Sitting here whining about the country that provides you the life you have fixes nothing.  Man (or Woman) up and hit the road to find your happiness.

 
 
321steve
5.2.1  321steve  replied to  Spikegary @5.2    3 days ago

IMO: Most Americans do that stuff more for the money and power than to help anyone much more than themselves. 

Personally I dont have much faith in humanity. Including americans. It seems too me pretty much we are all in it more for ourselves than others.  There is the exception but for the majority of humans  they will throw anyone under the bus to get what they want. 

Including most of our politicians and our current president. 

 
 
lib50
5.2.2  lib50  replied to  Spikegary @5.2    2 days ago

Not that I would mind emigrating to a few places I've lived overseas, but for now I'll work within to make things better.  The overt and public racism is nothing to be proud of, seems pretty easy for conservatives to overlook that. 

 
 
Jasper2529
5.3  Jasper2529  replied to  lib50 @5    3 days ago
At this point in time, the USA has little to be proud of. 

If that were true, we wouldn't have thousands from other countries illegally crossing our borders.

We are led by a compulsive liar who has humiliated, embarrassed and damaged the reputation of the country, something that won't  be easy to get back, if ever. 

MSM talking points. 

He doesn't know anything about governing and spends most of his time watching cable news.

MSM talking points.

We are the asshole country of the world at the moment

MSM talking point.

I don't blame the young for not considering America exceptional, we most assuredly are not, and are falling further behind every day. 

Millennials can thank growing up during Bill Clinton's sexcapades, Obama's international apology tours, and the Left's overall identity politics for this.

And what's with the sudden love of immigrants?  Kind of a weird pivot.   Conservatives are not even for legal immigration these days and use fear of immigrants to win political battles.

Please learn the difference between a LEGAL immigrant and an ILLEGAL ALIEN. They are not the same. Conservatives definitely support LEGAL immigration, and you cannot dispute that fact.

 
 
lib50
5.3.1  lib50  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3    2 days ago

I know the difference between legal and illegal, now you learn to curb the double standards and hypocrisy coming from conservatives.   You all seem to overlook everything illegal and shady thing republicans ARE DOING TODAY and want to focus on the groups you love to hate.   Conservatives don't even want legal immigration, I do dispute that.   They have taken steps to limit it, so can the bullshit.  Chain immigration?  Used to be called family reunification, you know, like Melania's parents.  And did you know Melania also broke the law on her visa? 

Here, just for you.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/how-trump-is-trying-to-reduce-legal-immigration

 
 
Jasper2529
5.3.2  Jasper2529  replied to  lib50 @5.3.1    yesterday
I know the difference between legal and illegal,

I'm glad you do.

now you learn to curb the double standards and hypocrisy coming from conservatives.   You all seem to overlook everything illegal and shady thing republicans ARE DOING TODAY and want to focus on the groups you love to hate.   Conservatives don't even want legal immigration

If Conservatives didn't want legal immigration, the following wouldn't have happened in the past 2 years:

https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/celebrating-independence-day-naturalization-ceremonies-1

https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/celebrating-independence-day-2018-naturalization-ceremonies

Here, just for you.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/how-trump-is-trying-to-reduce-legal-immigration

According to NT's left wing gold standard - MB/FC - Pacific Standard Magazine's bias is left of center. Your PS Mag article clearly discusses ILLEGAL immigration while conflating it with LEGAL immigration. Please focus on this sentence:

In the case of those trying to renew their visas while they're still in the U.S., they could be placed in deportation proceedings the moment their visas expire.

LEGAL immigrants make sure that their visas and green cards are always current. That's why they do not worry about deportation.

 
 
Heartland American
5.3.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3.2    yesterday

jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gifGreat post on all the points you made.   jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
Jasper2529
5.3.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.3    5 hours ago

Thank you.  

 
 
Ender
6  Ender    18 hours ago

Uh, maybe the younger generation does not buy into the bullshit that we have the greatest country ever.

The younger generations have a world at their fingertips. Travel is much more easy and accessible. 

They are not stuck into one small corner of the world.

When talking about wages, there is proof all over the internet, if one looks, that real time wages have been mostly stagnant since the 70s.

This so called article touts looking at the positive yet at the same time is criticizing a large segment of society.

 
 
Heartland American
6.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Ender @6    15 hours ago

Ok so who in history was a better country to live in than America?  Where in the world now is there a better one?  There’s been a lot of negative coming from the progressive left about our exceptional American nation. America 🇺🇸 love ❤️ it or leave ✈️ It. 

 
 
Ender
6.1.1  Ender  replied to  Heartland American @6.1    14 hours ago

Australia is really nice. England, Norway, Japan is really cool.

This nationalist crap does nothing.

It is 2018. This my dog is better than your dog crap is antiquated.

It sounds childish.

 
 
Sparty On
6.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @6.1.1    8 hours ago

Meh, some people tend to concentrate on the warts, others concentrate on the rest of the body.    Nothing wrong with pride in country nor is there anything wrong with looking out for your own countries interests first over other countries.    All countries do it.

Have never understood some people’s tendency towards self deprecation on such things.    It’s very obtuse.

 
 
Ender
6.1.3  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.2    3 hours ago

Nothing wrong with pride in country.

Nothing wrong with criticizing ones country when warranted.

Announcing to the world that "My country is the best in the world and the best that has ever been" is nothing more than a kid boasting that his bike is the best in the neighborhood.

 
 
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