Trump Betrayed Kurds To Please Turkish Dictator
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Trump to Kurdistan 24: Kurds are great people, incredible ...
“As soon as the US folds its tent and leaves, Turkey will immediately begin an air bombardment followed by a ground attack by the [Ankara-backed] Free Syrian army. Thousands will die, thousands will be displaced and will be given no haven within Syria. They will be turned away at the Turkish border,” said David Phillips, a former senior state department official, and the author of the new book: The Great Betrayal: How America Abandoned the Kurds and Lost the Middle East.
“For more than three and a half years, they have been our boots on the ground and were the point of the spear in retaking [the Isis stronghold] Raqqa,” Phillips, now at Columbia University, said. “Who is going to fight for us in the future when we throw our allies under the bus?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/21/james-mattis-resignation-trump-erdogan-phone-call
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Mattis resignation triggered by phone call between Trump and Erdoğan
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US president complied with Turkish leader’s demands
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Both Mattis and Pompeo advised Trump against agreeing to Erdogan's demands. They both lost the argument and trump has betrayed US allies the Kurds. What is in it for Trump?
Don't ignore the fact that Trump has opened the door for Iran to now move in and obtain a direct route to its terrorist proxy Hezbollah and put its war machine on Israel's border - what he is doing is as much a betrayal of Israel as it is of the Kurds.
True.
In fact, even beyond that-- its a betrayal of the interests of all of our friends.
(This includes the Kurds, democratic Arab forces in the SDF, Israel, and many European and other countries...)
And Trump's words and actions have been a great help to . . . our enemies. (Erdogan ruled Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc).
General Mattis is a man of honour-- he just couldn't take Trump's insidious hypocrisy any more ...
Actually, I have to admit I did something that is politically incorrect in the minds of many here on NT-- I actually read Mattis' resignation letter before commenting on it!
Basically he said he is resigning over irreconcilable differences with Trump.
Gen'l Mattis' two main points of contention?
1. Trump has been consistently criticizing and in other ways hurting our friends.
2. Trump's actions have been helping our enemies!
I read the letter yesterday evening.
I agree. It's almost as if Trump knows that he is going to be removed from office and he is desperate to do what he can during his remaining time as POTUS to benefit Putin and Russian foreign policy. If that is true then it is treason and he must be prosecuted as such because it is a willful violation of his oath of office.
I saw this article in Hurriyet (A Turkish news outlet) a few days ago:
ISIL kills 700 prisoners in east Syria
Jihadist militants have executed nearly 700 prisoners in two months in eastern Syria , the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Dec. 19.
(Note: IS = Islamic State-- in other words, ISIS).
True, that must be why trump has taken 2 years and they still aren't gone, despite him saying he would have them defeated in 30 days.
If that was the case, why would trump say that he would defeat ISIS....I mean, if they were already gone? Weird!
WTF, WTF, WTF....
The is a huge gift to Edrogan and Putin...I'm sure that we'll hear/watch a slaughter of the Syrian Kurds in short order by the Turks.
Erdogan must have some blackmail hold on Trump.
The Turks want to attack the Kurds even outside of Turkey's borders. Why on earth would a president of the United States agree to stand by and watch that?
more P tapes
is my guess
When the hookers pee on Trump's head it makes the orange run down his face and neck.
He could be following the orders of Putin. Trump appears to be desperate for Putin's approval.
Footage of he and Erdogan participating in his traditional Kurd bashing & goat fuck friendship initiation ceremony...
Orange you glad
u
never had to com pear
to Adam's Apples ?
Hopefully Melania takes a cue from good ole Lorena Bobbitt
n , cuts ole Trumpy down to the size he acts, a fricken Hobbit,
with hapless habits , gone habitual ( His Mind )
Naaahhhhhh
Actually, Trumpp, will be fucking the Kurds as well
He's been goated on by the far out, far right, while Far Wrong group
Possibly something to do with the killing of Khashoggi? Almost guaranteed some kind of financial benefit for Trump figures into it.
or
no pee tapes for U
Maybe a video of the killing showing the Crown Prince and his good buddy Jared Kushner standing in the corner watching..?
Interesting. Pure speculation but certainly possible.
Trump owes millions to the Saudis so he is not going to go against their wishes.
and the whole assassin team wearing Trump, Blood Red, "Make America Great Again"
"hats off to the Bull"
Cuckhold Crown Princess's, he and "Subway"Jared wood B
Why on earth would a president of the United States agree to stand by and watch that?
My guess? Sheer greed.
It will probably soon come to light that Erdogan promised Trump a deal that would benefit him (Trump) financially.
("Watch This Space"....)
Here's my theory of which I posted on another seed but I'll re-post here since it may be more relevant here.
Flynn's two buddies that were doing some "work" for Turkey just got indicted. Several days later Erdogan picks up the phone and calls Trump and tells him to pull US troops out. Coincidence......maybe.
So, what's this mean? I think it means that Putin is tired of not getting what he paid for when he put Trump in office. He also knows that Trump is getting closer to being impeached. Therefore, he's calling in his markers and Trump is trying to appease him by getting out of the way via withdrawing US troops.
certainly seems awfully coincidental.
Russia, Turkey, Iran benefit, but what about US A nother of Trumps Putin Russia ahead of All of US...
nothing to see here, again
Maybe it's the lizard people?
Maybe............
sHillary and Soros have a side gig?
I'm positive Trump and dumps do
It is truly amazing to hear the left complain about Trump pursuing the same policies that Barak Obama pursued in Iraq. Obama left office with Russia in Syria, ISIS in control of vast areas of the middle east, an Iran "deal" which left Iran on track to a nuclear weapons arsenal along with about 3 times the tax payer money Trump wants for a wall, a US Embassy in Havana despite the Castro brothers not changing their tyrannical regime in any way and that last minute warning about imminent danger from North Korea. Trump removes forces from two middle eastern regions and suddenly progressives are on the side of American intervention. What a joke.
Perhaps it's hard to admit that others make choices based on the best information at hand, rather than partisan loyalty.
Exactly!
Not that I can see
Or this. The Khashoggi murder has already been mentioned in previous posts.
However...….Mohamad bin Salman was able to handle Khashoggi criticisms with little problem or effect to his agendas. But, did Khashoggi 'stumble upon' financial info which would be extremely detrimental to the agendas agreed to at Helsinki which involved the political/financial fortunes of Putin, Trump and Erdogan? Did Erdogan assure Trump and Putin that he was in a position to diffuse and hide that information Khashoggi uncovered if Trump did as requested?
All of this is speculation. However, there are just to many unanswered questions and even more questions that have yet to be asked.
Never thought I'd see so many war hawks claiming to be liberals.
Bush got us into the mess with the 2003 Iraq invasion, but we cannot pull out now without threatening the lives of many people due to the rise of ISIL that happened in the Baathist power vacuum. I didn't want war but we need to make sure that there are peacekeepers there until the region stabilizes and is self-governing. ISIL is the middle east equivalent of the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot so unless you want another million people to die we can't just walk away. Iraq isn't yet stable and self-governing and Syria is still on the verge of civil war. Russia would love to be able to turn these countries into satellite republics that obey Moscow.
If we just pull out troops in Afghanistan it will happen there as the Taliban seek revenge on those who cooperated with the Americans. Daddy Bush understood this possibility and that is why he didn't seek to overthrow Saddam in 1991.
Exactly. I was in the first gulf war and I remember at the time asking why we weren't getting rid of Saddam...a lot of us were. After it was over? We were told why Saddam was left in place, "because to remove him would create a breeding ground for terrorists".
Now I like GWB, he is a good man, but he was a terrible president who should have listened to his dad.
No. As much as we all hated Saddam, he provided stability to the entire region. After he was removed from power, there was no such leader in the region to provide that stability, and the terrorists took over, most notably, ISIS.
I was there, I know what I am talking about.