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THINGS DEMOCRATS HAVE FUNDED THAT COST MORE THAN THE BORDER WALL

  

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Via:  1stwarrior  •  5 years ago  •  101 comments

THINGS DEMOCRATS HAVE FUNDED THAT COST MORE THAN THE BORDER WALL
Lawmakers have put less thought into other, more expensive projects over the years

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After President Trump requested $5.7 billion to fund the border wall he campaigned on in 2016, Democrats have dug in, refusing to appropriate the funds that the administration says are needed to better manage the flow of immigration across the southern border.

Democrats are not traditionally known for their fiscal rectitude but are particularly parsimonious over what ultimately amounts to a very small percentage of the federal budget. (In 2018, the feds spent $4.173 trillion overall, meaning the border wall would amount to just 1/10th of 1 percent of current annual federal spending.)

Indeed, these lawmakers have happily funded various projects over the years that cost far more than the border wall — and many of which had very questionable value. Below are some examples of wasteful federal spending projects that individually cost more than the proposed border wall (data courtesy of Citizens Against Government Waste):

  • Rural Utility Service.” This program costs taxpayers $8.2 billion/year and has no actual purpose after its original intent — bringing electricity to rural communities — was long ago achieved. It’s now being used to bring broadband access to small communities (usually with populations of less than 20,000). However there’s no indication the “beneficiaries” of this expensive government agency actually appreciate the program, and the majority of its projects are not completed on time or within budget.
  • Sugar Subsidies. America, as Democrats frequently intone, faces a health crisis. What they don’t tell us is that it’s largely of their own making, as Congress subsidizes the production of unhealthy foods like sugar and high-fructose corn syrup. Eliminating sugar subsidies alone would save $6 billion, enough to fund the border wall; it would also have the added benefit of helping curb the nation’s obesity epidemic. 
  • Community Development Grants. These grants were created in the 70s to revitalize failing American cities. The program has almost always been plagued with dysfunction, with grants going to wealthy communities and other recipients failing to produce “accountability and results.” Citizens Against Government Waste reports that even President Obama called for reining in the program. It’s elimination would save $15 billion over 5 years. 
  • The United Nations. As the United Nation’s largest contributor, the U.S. in 2016 donated $10 billion to the U.N. As CAGW notes, reducing these contributions just 25 percent would create a savings of $12.5 billion over 10 years. Of the money Congress appropriates for the United Nations, $5 million taxpayer dollars are itemized for abortions in foreign countries.
  • Amtrak. Congress could sell Amtrak to the private sector where it would almost certainly be operated more efficiently, but instead it’s showered in billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies. Over the next five years, these subsidies will cost $9.7 billion.
  • Unused Real Estate. Congress appropriates money to maintain federal real estate that’s not actually being used. Per CAGW, an October 31, 2017, CRS report found that, “In FY2016, federal agencies owned 3,120 buildings that were vacant (unutilized), and another 7,859 that were partially empty (underutilized).” Current laws require the government to undergo a series of steps before considering a sale of these buildings. Were selling this unused property prioritized, the 5-year savings are estimated at $15 billion. Simply maintaining the unused buildings annually costs $1.7 billion.
  • Foreign Aid. American taxpayers currently spend more than $50 billion a year helping develop foreign countries. Many of the recipients are not known for being America’s closest allies — such as Egypt, South Sudan, Uganda, South Africa, Russia, the Congo, Sudan, and Zambia — which raises the question of what Americans are receiving in exchange for all of this aid. Cutting these donations back just 10 percent would be enough to fund the wall.  
  • Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. The Government Accountability Office estimates taxpayers are spending more than $137 billion annually on “payment errors,” which covers all manner of waste, fraud, and abuse within Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The feds could implement the same kind of fraud protections credit card companies used to ensure against abuse, but don’t. In fact, Congress has gone in the opposite direction, winding down the program intended to police fraud within Medicare, the so-called Recovery Audit Contractor. In other words, Congress is knowingly funding tens of billions of dollars of fraud annually. 
     

Despite many of of the above projects having arguably negative value, Congress continues to fund them. Eliminating any one of the above would create more than enough savings to fund the White House’s border wall appropriation request. 

Of course, other smaller federal spending projects are even more wasteful. Examples abound, but here are a few that are at least amusing:
 

  • The feds spend $613,634 to boost “intimacy and trust” of transgender women and their male partners (The Washington Free Beacon)
  • The feds spent $5 million paying hipsters to stop smoking and then blog about it (as well as use cool anti-smoking swag — like beer koozies). (Readers Digest) 
  • Northeastern University has received more than $3 million in National Institutes of Health to watch hamster fights. “Some of those experiments involved injecting hamsters with steroids, then putting another hamster in the cage to see if the drugged rodents were more aggressive when protecting their territory. This program has since been halted following protests from animal rights activists,” Readers Digest reports.  
  • The feds spend $1,009,762 training “social justice” math teachers (The Washington Free Beacon)
  • “The government spent at least $518,000 in federal grants to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails,” Readers Digest reports. 

The Federal Register is legally required to be printed daily and distributed to Congressional offices despite most never being read and all of the information being available online. Stopping this unnecessary printing would save $1 million a year. 


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1stwarrior
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1  seeder  1stwarrior    5 years ago

'Course, they could stop funding Pelosi's trips back home on an AF aircraft most week-ends - that would help also.

" Judicial Watch  uncovered that Pelosi’s military travel cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 over one two-year period — $101,429.14 of which was for in-flight expenses, including food and alcohol.

JW also uncovered internal Defense emails detailing attempts by Defense Department staff to accommodate Pelosi’s numerous requests for military escorts and military aircraft, as well as Pelosi’s last minute cancellations and changes. Pelosi’s office treated the Air Force like a taxi service ."

Read Newsmax:  Congressional Travel Cover-Up Alleged at Pentagon | Newsmax.com  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  1stwarrior @1    5 years ago

Got that right. Ever hear about her demand to the Air Force  a few years ago that they specially outfit the back of a C-17 with VIP sleeping quarters for her  personal use to fly back and forth from DC to California, and the tissy fit she threw when SECAF told her not only no but Hell no? That was priceless...

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Don Overton
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1.2  Don Overton  replied to  1stwarrior @1    5 years ago

So much for republican realiality.  Continue the lack grasping what went on.

 
 
 
Don Overton
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1.3  Don Overton  replied to  1stwarrior @1    5 years ago

  about Grabie News.  Factual Reporting: MIXED (depends on source)

Be sure to make fact checks for the source

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.3.2  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Release The Kraken @1.3.1    5 years ago

Also much more important than commenting on the contents of the thread instead of doing "drive-byes".

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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1.3.4  Cerenkov  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.3    5 years ago

Attack the Messenger fallacy. Dismissed. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  1stwarrior @1    5 years ago

I would like to add another item to that list - fighting the border wall! When this government shutdown is over it will have cost the government more than the $5.7 billion the President is asking for. That may be the most telling indicator that this debate is not about the cost of the wall. Nope, it's simply about denying the President his key campaign promise before the 2020 election.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.4.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    5 years ago
Nope, it's simply about denying the President his key campaign promise before the 2020 election.

Yep, and about Democrats keeping their key campaign promises in the latest round of midterms. The Dems have exactly zero incentive to give fat fuck what he wants because a) they already offered him money for his dumbass wall and he rejected them, b) he has proven to be the worst negotiator/negotiating partner of all time (he couldn't negotiate his way into giving himself a handjob), and c) they just took back the house and beat the shit out of Trump and the GOP by opposing Trump's promises like the wall. 

 
 
 
Dragon
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1.4.2  Dragon  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    5 years ago

That "promise" was a wall that Mexico would pay for, which they will not, not in any form, not in any way, therefore Trump will NEVER keep that promise. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.4.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    5 years ago

Nope, it's simply about denying the President his key campaign promise before the 2020 election.

His campaign promise was a wall paid for by Mexico, it's amazing how often right wingers forget that.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.4.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Dragon @1.4.2    5 years ago

Wait, you mean a lifelong con man and serial liar lied? Whaaaaaaat?

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     5 years ago

Are you saying that the eight items highlighted in the article are only supported by dems? 

It takes congress to support these items that means both republican and dems. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
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2.1  Don Overton  replied to  Kavika @2    5 years ago

Not according to some on the right.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    5 years ago

Cutting spending is not what Democrats are about- unless a Republican is President and it is for the military.

I am sure there is a Democrat that would defend every last one of the programs listed.

 
 
 
lib50
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3.1  lib50  replied to  Ronin2 @3    5 years ago

Gop refused to fund for Obama, so that is just bullshit.   Gop didn't fund this stupid idea for 2 years when they had total control BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS A STUPID IDEA AND A WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS!   So Trump and the gop can pound rocks if they think dems or Americans will pay for it or put a better deal on the table than republicans were willing to do.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ronin2 @3    5 years ago
Cutting spending is not what Democrats are about- unless a Republican is President and it is for the military.

Lol kinda how the GOP only gives a shit about cutting spending until a republican is in office? Wasn't it just a couple years ago our deficits were out of control, but all of a sudden the attitude became "who gives a shit about trillion $ deficits". 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to    5 years ago
Did the democrat cut spending while in power how many budgets did Obama veto all politicians are guilty of the contributing to the problem. 

Yes. Deficits actually declined shortly into the Obama administration, and that was even with the wars and the recession. Of course that was a combination of multiple factors, but when the GOP took control any and all concerns about the deficit went right out the window. Even a cynic like myself was pretty surprised with how quickly they showed themselves to be completely full of shit with their talk of fiscal responsibility. I mean I knew they were, I just didn't expect them to be so blatant about it. Democrats at least seem to be kinda aware of the problem, I mean they do look for ways to actually pay for things to a degree through taxes, but the GOP just says fuck it, borrow away!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2.5  Thrawn 31  replied to    5 years ago

So you agree deficits decreased under Obama.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2.6  Thrawn 31  replied to    5 years ago

he government collects over 3.5 trillion a year. 

And pays out more than that. But Americans never want to cut any spending, so clearly we have to increase our income. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2.9  Thrawn 31  replied to    5 years ago
he government collects over 3.5 trillion a year. 

I don't fucking know and am way too lazy to look it up.

The budgets went down but were still to high like now spending is the key.

Fucking hell, it is a combination of both. Taxes need to increase and programs/spending needs to be modified. It isn't one or the other. 

 
 
 
lib50
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3.2.10  lib50  replied to    5 years ago

Then FFS stop pushing this stupid wall if you really don't like gov't spending and waste.  Because your words ring hollow, you are trying to force US taxpayers to pay for something they don't want.  And they were promised they wouldn't pay for.  And that is not the best and most cost effective to protect that border.  You know, THE ONE THE GOP DIDN'T FUND FOR THE 2 YEARS THEY HAD TOTAL CONTROL! 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

In the formative days of our republic, "millions for defense, but not one penny for tribute"  was a popular slogan supposedly uttered by an American diplomat in response to a bribe request by Tallyrand during the XYZ affair.   

Today, the democrats' slogan appears to be "billions for foreign countries, but not one penny to protect our borders."

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago
“The government spent at least $518,000 in federal grants to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails,” Readers Digest reports

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cjcold
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6.1  cjcold  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    5 years ago

Sure could have used all of that cocaine money back in the 70's when my libido involved much more than Japanese quails.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    5 years ago
"The government spent at least $518,000 in federal grants to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails,” Readers Digest reports 

Why'd you skip the big ticket items? Readers Digest reports:

The Pentagon was criticized in June 2017 for spending $28 million on licensing fees for the lush green pattern on Afghan National Army uniforms. The problem: Afghanistan is 98 percent desert, so the bright color would stand out—not what you’re looking for in camo.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @6.2    5 years ago

LOL.  That uniform mistake had to be a winner for some kind of stupidity award.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.1    5 years ago

Almost as bad as swat wearing camo in cities. It should be a brick pattern or some such...

 
 
 
Dulay
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7  Dulay    5 years ago

Gee 1st, how did the Dems get the GOP committee chairs to report out all of that spending and how did they get McConnell and Ryan to bring those spending bills to the floor for a vote? Oh and let's not forget getting Trump to SIGN the bills. They sure as hell could use some of that magic right now...

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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8  seeder  1stwarrior    5 years ago

Since none of the above occurred during Trump's watch - guess he didn't need to sign them, eh?

The Dems and the Repubs, I hope, followed the Constitutional process of getting the funding/spending up and out.

 
 
 
Dulay
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8.1  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @8    5 years ago
Since none of the above occurred during Trump's watch - guess he didn't need to sign them, eh?

So all the stuff on the list was eliminated since Trump took over. Link? 

Secondly, Paul and Mitch were STILL in charge in 2016.

The Dems and the Repubs, I hope, followed the Constitutional process of getting the funding/spending up and out.

Yet of course the Dems are the only ones y'all blame...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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8.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Dulay @8.1    5 years ago
So all the stuff on the list was eliminated since Trump took over.

Well no, but that isn't important! What matters is conservatives SAY they don't like these things. Come on man, words matter more than actions.

Secondly, Paul and Mitch were STILL in charge in 2016

Again see above.

 
 
 
Dulay
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8.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1.1    5 years ago

You forgot the sarcasm tag. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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9  Hal A. Lujah    5 years ago

Trump is the most glaringly obvious unqualified person in the history of this country to hold his office, and day after day here we see these monotonous attempts to normalize that scum.  He is quite literally attempting to starve a wide swath of his constituents, and conservatives continue to take the zero empathy position that as long as it isn’t impacting them directly, he’s doing a swell job.  Hillary was dead on with her deplorables label.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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10  Thrawn 31    5 years ago
Waste, Fraud, and Abuse

Wait wait wait, there is actually a waste fraud and abuse program? Like a program dedicated specifically to those goals? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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11  Paula Bartholomew    5 years ago

This is not about the past.  It is about NOW.  Get over it.

 
 

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