Nathan Phillips Lied. The Media Bought It.
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If you’re in a public place and someone starts heckling you, are you entitled to heckle back? How about if someone does something much worse than heckling you in a public place? What if that person in fact takes a drum up to you and starts banging it in your face? Are you entitled to heckle back? How about smirking? Are you allowed to smirk?
I think you are, even if you’re wearing a MAGA hat. Even if you’re an entitled brat. Even if you’re an entitled Catholic brat.
We’ll stipulate that the Catholic boys from a high school in Kentucky were a little obnoxious when an indigenous man named Nathan Phillips banged a drum at them in front of the Lincoln Memorial on Friday. But Phillips was being a lot more obnoxious. To put it another way, if you were minding your own business in a public place and someone came right up to you and put a drum up to your face and made a huge racket inches from your nose, would you be happy about it?
The kids from Covington Catholic High School in Covington, Ky., were ambassadors for causes much bigger than themselves: Catholicism and the right to life. As such, they should have comported themselves better than to jeer and do a tomahawk chop in front of Phillips. Ideally, the kids would have ignored him and walked away. Until about ten minutes ago, it was broadly agreed in our culture that kids are allowed to do some dumb things because they’re kids. Should these kids’ lives be ruined because some of them responded to obnoxious provocation by being a bit rude themselves? I’d say their reaction was if anything more restrained than you would expect from teenagers. I’d advise them to do better next time. I certainly wouldn’t consider expulsion.
Phillips, on the other hand, is an adult, and he repeatedly lied about what happened to the Washington Post, which was utterly taken in by him and reported everything he said uncritically.
It would have been revolting if Nathan Phillips had been minding his own business doing a tribal chant while a gang of kids swarmed around him and started jeering. That’s what many media outlets reported: “Boys in ‘Make America Great Again’ Hats Mob Native Elder at Indigenous Peoples March,” ran a New York Times headline over a story that said “a throng of cheering and jeering high school boys” were “surrounding a Native American elder.”
That isn’t what happened. Phillips was the aggressor in the situation. It’s a curious feature of our culture that people aggressively seek to be victimized, go out of their way in hopes of getting punched in the face, but here we are. People do that because they know the media hand out condemnation based on perceived ranking in the victim hierarchy. “Old Ypsilanti man” is near the top, while “privileged-looking young white male probable heterosexual in a MAGA cap” is the absolute bottom. The surface appeal of the story short-circuited the reporters’ brains to such a degree that they failed to perform basic tasks such as asking the people they were accusing for their version of events. The Times and other outlets had zero evidence that a “mob” “surrounded” Phillips, except a claim of Phillips that he has since backed away from.
Friday he waded into a group of Covington students, evidently hoping to troll a response out of them suitable for a viral video. According to the Washington Post, Phillips, 64, said that he felt threatened by the teens and that they swarmed around him as he and other activists were wrapping up the march and preparing to leave. This is a lie. They didn’t swarm around him. He strolled right into the middle of their group:
Phillips then pivoted to a completely different version of his story with the Detroit Free Press, in which he admitted that he approached the students, not the other way around. His interviews and the various videos of the incident paint a picture of him saying he is a) terrified of the Catholic students yet b) walking right up to and into their group; a) doing his best to leave yet b) pressing forward insistently; a) trying to go up the steps of the Lincoln Memorial yet b) not noticing that there is a clear path up those steps approximately ten feet to his right.
Phillips, who claims to be a former Marine and a Vietnam veteran, told the Free Press the Covington kids “were in the process of attacking these four black individuals. I was there and I was witnessing all of this. . . . As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you’re faced with that choice of right or wrong.”
Because naturally, when you see a group of individuals “attacking” another group in a public place where there are lots of police, the proper response when you’re a 64-year-old man is not to inform a cop but to take charge of the situation yourself. Go up to the “attackers,” stand toe to toe with one of them and start loudly banging a drum in his face. This is a known mollification technique and it absolutely can never fail to defuse tensions. However, if it does fail, what you should do is move the drum even closer to the other person’s face, so it’s just a few inches from the guy’s ears, and keep banging away for several more minutes.
Nathan Phillips went out seeking to create an incident, and he fooled the New York Times and the Washington Post into accepting his false version of it.
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I'm sure Nathan Phillips will have a different version tomorrow.
His comments do not match up with the video evidence hence he is a damn liar, Period.
And now its proven he lied about his service record......
He'd never be able to keep up with the number and variety of the rightwing lies, though.
Well, Nick the Smirking Prick's version is highly entertaining and not at all compatible with any of the videos we've seen. So, please list all of these "different versions" that Phillips has offered and, of course, give the source for each.
By that standard Nick the Smirking Prick is a goddamn liar.
One has to give grudging admiration for how racists always frame the narrative of these episodes so that the victim of racism is really the instigator and stick to it no matter how much the facts show otherwise. It has to be one of those lies they must tell themselves to advance the cause of their racism.
To which the young punks responded in kind (with apparently no chaperones there or willing to intervene). We keep seeing you lot claim that the BHI group were "confrontational," suggesting that they were in the faces of the little punks. THAT IS A LIE. The BHI groups stood in one place while many of the punks came right up to them to exchange abusive comments. At no time whatsoever did the BHI group issue any kind of threat. But, again, when a black man shouting is automatically a criminal offenses in the minds of some people in this country.
Just a follow-up to my 2.1 comment. At no point did any of the young prick brigade seem in the least bit intimidated or threatened by the BHI group. Quit the opposite, since apparently they outnumbered the BHI by many multiples they seemed quite emboldened and enjoying the back-and-forth.
They are white and males....of course the left wing rag bigots are triggered.
and entitled little pricks. This behavior comes from the home, by the way.
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I will say a few things about this.
I agree with just about everything I have ever heard from the Native American rights movement. American Indians have been horribly mistreated throughout US history, and maybe even worse in present day America, their concerns are largely ignored by the rest of America because they are not a large percentage of the population or a trendy cause for social media outrage. In my opinion 99% of the attention that is paid to transgender news should be spent on behalf of American Indians.
Having said that Nathan Phillips didnt do his cause much good. Maybe he was having a bad day.
He has made comments that either confused or distorted what happened.
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I hate to break it to the local Trumpsters and the both sides do it crowd, but to most Americans , someone who wears a MAGA hat in public has put a scarlet letter of shame on their forehead. Is that completely fair? Well nothing is completely fair but it's pretty fair.
When some of these kids showed up with MAGA hats, including the boy in question as regards confronting Phillips, it is inevitable that his motives would be questioned. 17 year olds are old enough to have their own damn common sense and I am not sure this kid used any. You couldn't pay me enough money to walk around advertising the worst president in US history as if I were proud of him.
The media jumped to a conclusion, which was obviously an egregious mistake. Although we can assume there are some anti Native American racists in a crowd from Kentucky wearing MAGA hats, what actually happened on those Lincoln Memorial steps doesnt really show that.
No! I he out and out lied? Don't try to sugarcoat it!
No! It shows someone who lives and cares about his country very much!
Now who is being prejudiced?
I know you are not that confused. The MAGA logo and products, including the hats, are the intellectual property of and representative of DONALD TRUMP, not America. If you wear that hat you are positively endorsing Trump , a fate I wouldnt wish on too many people.
He will shortly go down in history as the most ignorant, buffoonish , and dishonest president of ALL TIME.
What would possibly inspire someone to wear a symbol of that on their head?
Oh, really? A "bad day"? He continued to bang his drum within inches of innocent students' faces and knew EXACTLY what he was doing, because he made sure to tell his LIES to left wing media and even change it when his original lie was caught:
Newsflash, John ... ALL US citizens - even those you may hate - are protected by the First Amendment. Deal with it.
He did not do anything wrong except wait for his school bus in front of the Lincoln Memorial while wearing a hat that some people hate. While waiting, he and his classmates were harassed by racist Native Americans and black militants. Watch the REAL video.
When Donald trump was elected president on Nov 16 , 2016, the "resistance" began. Some on the right thought it was a joke or something that would pass once trump got in the saddle.
In actuality , Trump has been such a horror show as president that the "resistance" hasn't wavered for a day, nor should it.
It won't rest until Trump is gone, nor should it.
People who wear MAGA hats, which declares their allegiance to the abomination known as the Trump presidency, are a disgrace to this country.
Among other things, Donald Trump is a lifelong pathological liar. What part of that behavior by him do you agree with?
Hate to break it to you John, but some are proud to be a deplorable......
Would these work better?
Some people are....
She did create a legacy didn't she....
I will respond to this first because I hope it will give you insight to myself. If you understand me better then perhaps you will be better able to understand what I say later.
I didn't vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Clinton, either, by the way. I think President Trump is about as unpresidential as one can be. That doesn't mean I disagree with everything he is trying to do. It just means I'm not very impressed with him as a person.
This is only partially true. Trump did trademark "Make America Great Again". However, one cannot trademark the actual idea of making America great again, nor define what a great America would be simply because they have the trademark rights.
And here is where I wish you could see what I'm talking about. Some do wear the hat to endorse Trump, but not all. Some wear it because they believe in the idea of making America great again. Do you remember all the President Obama posters? The ones that had is image with the word "Change?" Do you think all of those people who wore pins with the same image, or bumper stickers on their cars all believed the same thing? That they all had the same idea of what that change should be?
What I am trying to get at is, when you see someone wearing a MAGA hat, you don't see the person. You just see the hat and attach to that person your preconceived indignation and rage concerning Trump. And I'm not trying to single you out. We all do it. I do it. If things are going to get better, we need to stop. Things won't get better if we would only adopt a certain ideology, they'll get better when we start seeing each other as people, not as a hat or whatever else.
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Bingo! Where the media screwed up is they did a little too good of a job this time. This story was just supposed to be in news cycle a day or 2. But, it created a visceral reaction that many on BOTH sides experienced. Grade A deception for sure. The propaganda wing of the DNC has gotten very, very good at their jobs.
There are still a few who are unwilling to unhitch their wagon from this, because doing so forces you to see the level of deception the media is capable of in order to support an agenda.
Absolutely amazing how many people in this country said the very same things when Barak Obama was elected for both his terms in office. Contrary to popular belief that the left would have us believe, MAGA hats represent a ideal more than a idea (or a man). But because it came about during Trump , whom the left has a intractable hatred for, they would have everybody believe as they do. The sheer short sidedness of the progressive liberal left never ceases to amaze..
I want one! Where do you get them?
It's always gratifying when people recognize, admit and even revel in being crass, obnoxious, dishonest and bigoted. No one created this underbelly of America. It's always been with us.
Every day we learn more detail from the many different videos that were taken during this long episode and every day the rightwing lying gets torn apart piece by stinking piece.
Like what?
That was a lie from the beginning, continues to be a lie and will always be a lie. We're all familiar with the rightwing notion that repeating lies infinitely makes them come true but that only works in their imaginary world.
That is now a well established goddam lie.
The left will drop this story and move on to another episode of TDS. They care nothing about what the facts were. The hypocrisy between they way they treated these kids and coddled vulgar uncouth kids like David Hogg is striking.
Perhaps this left-wing media phony outrage was meant to be a distraction from the most recent false stories from Buzzfeed et al.
There it is...how Hogg was treated by your lot for simply speaking out for gun control (how uncouth and vulgar!!
) while you defend Nick the Smirking Prick tells us everything we already knew about the despicable rightwing.
That sense of over-privileged white little prick is so obvious in that smirk isn't it?
One of the interesting things is that he called the kids beasts, while lying that they were attacking blacks...
Just imagine if a guy wearing a MAGA hat lied and accused black teens "beasts" and lied about them attacking a group of whites? Can you imagine how some of our posters on this site would react?
Trump and many other people have called MS-13 and other violent gangs "animals" and have been attacked by many on the left for doing so. Nothing surprises me anymore.
Okay, so there's a new lie. No one has claimed that. But it has been lied innumerable times now that the black men were "confrontational" merely because they were shouting while staying in one place. What is incontrovertible is that while the BHI group remained in their location for the entire time, the white punks approached them to mouth off back to them.
Why do keep saying things are untrue?
Phillips, in one of the wildly differing versions of events he's offered, claimed the kids were in the process of attacking 4 black men when he confronted them.
Sad you can't even keep of with the lies told by Phillips. Maybe you should learn the basic facts of what happened before you embarrass yourself further.
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The MAGA Teens' Defense for Staring Down a Native American Veteran Doesn't Add Up
By now most of the internet has seen the viral video of Native American veteran Nathan Phillips and MAGA hat-wearing high schoolers at the Indigenous Peoples March in D.C. Since then, longer and longer videos have surfaced that show the events leading up to that encounter, and who was in the right seems to vacillate depending on how far back any given video goes.
The student featured most prominently in the video, Nick Sandmann, put out a statement on Sunday giving his version of what happened. The teens were in D.C. with their school, Covington Catholic High in Kentucky, for the annual anti-abortion March for Life, which had wrapped up by the time the events in the videos took place. Near the Lincoln Memorial, they reportedly crossed paths first with a group of Black Hebrew Israelites (which the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated a hate group) who began taunting the students. In response, the boys started doing school chants to drown them out when Phillips and other activists with the Indigenous Peoples March approached. Sandmann writes:
This iframe is not allowedThis mostly tracks with Phillips' account of what happened leading up to the clip that went viral. Indian Country Today compiled several videos that clearly show the Black Hebrew Israelites jeering at the Covington students, and Phillips approaching. But from there, the accounts of what exactly happened split. According to an interview with the Detroit Free Press :
Some people, like Native writer Kelly Hayes, see the defense of the Covington students as a continuation of a race-based double standard that affords white boys bottomless mercy and doubt (versus, for example, the blame put on 11-year-old Tamir Rice when he was shot to death by police).
This iframe is not allowedAnd on MSNBC , Native American activist Chase Iron Eyes stressed that the situation can't be divorced from the much broader social and political context. “We have a racially charged environment with a president who is giving license to this behavior,” he said. "These kids show up being very loud, very disruptive, and doing the tomahawk chop, it is on video, making the fake war whoop we all know how to make.”
“It doesn’t matter how people spin it,” he added. “Our elder felt threatened there.”
'Okay, so there's a new lie. No one has claimed that. But it has been lied innumerable times now that the black men were "confrontational" merely because they were shouting while staying in one place. What is incontrovertible is that while the BHI group remained in their location for the entire time, the white punks approached them to mouth off back to them.'
Here's exactly what was said:
his mostly tracks with Phillips' account of what happened leading up to the clip that went viral. Indian Country Today compiled several videos that clearly show the Black Hebrew Israelites jeering at the Covington students, and Phillips approaching. But from there, the accounts of what exactly happened split. According to an interview with the Detroit Free Press :
Some people, like Native writer Kelly Hayes, see the defense of the Covington students as a continuation of a race-based double standard that affords white boys bottomless mercy and doubt (versus, for example, the blame put on 11-year-old Tamir Rice when he was shot to death by police).
Ive been searching all day to find one reasonable, rational person who continues to defend the original narrative......just one........they simply do not exist anywhere.
I'm starting to feel sorry for you and your pals, Sean. This massive lie-fest that's been mounted for Nick the Smirking Prick just isn't working, is it. I think you thought just getting lots of up-votes means the lies were defeating the facts and it's just not working.
An extended video which appears to taken from the perspective where the BHI group was standing (although not necessarily by one of them) shows Phillips doing just what he said he did--walking in between BHI and the Covington pricks. Phillips turns to his right to face the prick contingent and very soon after that they surround Phillips pretty much obscuring his view from the point of the phone camera. We get that later still shot of Nick the Prick right in Phillips face with his shit-eating smirk and the latter being tightly surrounded by the mob. Nick the Prick is clearly blocking Phillips from moving forward. Remember, this is all open public space and the pricks have prevented Phillips from moving. Phillips was exactly right to feel he was in a possibly dangerous situation.
The only known videos of the Covington/Phillips incident have already been posted on this seed. Your comment indicates that you have another one that shows a very different perspective, so please share it. Thank you.
So if this was one of them on the seed you should have already seen it, right?:
At the 1.09.40 mark we see a bunch of these little MAGA shits do some kind of idiotic "hulk" cheer in response to the BHI group's taunts. The little MAGA shits had been doing their own jeering at the BHI for some time before that. Nathan Phillips enters the frame on the left at ~1.12.20 mark which is where I started my description of the scene in comment 5.3.6 above. Over the next couple of minutes Phillips turns to face the little MAGA shits and you see him slowly move away from the camera and the little MAGA shits are mocking Phillips, hopping up and down and soon he's surrounded by them. You can actually see Nick the Smirking Pricking eagerly participating in the mocking, jumping up and down, shouting and laughing at Phillips. We can't see that point on this video when the Nick the Smirking Prick decides to get right up into Phillips face but I suppose you're going to try to claim than never happened.
Aww, GET OUTTA HERE...
"Go ahead and hate your neighbor.
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven.
You can justify it in the end.
For there won't be any trumpets blowing
Come our judgement day.
On the bloody morning after,
The ancient warrior rode away"...
By Coven...
"One Tin Soldier" Theme from the Movie "Billy Jack"
Thankfully, we haven't reached the bloody morning after yet.....
But we are getting there...
I'm more worried about us reaching "The Eve of Destruction" myself. That song's lyrics are just as relevant today as when it was recorded by Barry McGuire in the 60's.
Think of all the hate, there is in Red China,
Then take a look around at Selma, Alabama,
And you may leave this place for four days in space,
But when you return, it's the same old place,
The poundin of the drums, the pride and disgrace,
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
Hate your next door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace,
And you tell me over and over again my friend,
You don't believe we're on the eve of destruction ...
So?
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Actually the song was called "One Tin Soldier" and originally recorded in 1969 by a Canadian pop group called The Original Cast, and was then used as the theme song for the 1971 counterculture film "Billy Jack". The last line of the lyrics originally said, "On the bloody morning after, one tin soldier rides away." Coven recorded their version in 1973 and changed the lyrics slightly to say "Than ancient warrior rode away..".
Thank Ed, I missed that little bit.......
Check out how left-wing Huff Po tried to portray the incident that an experienced left-wing Native American activist was the victim of a high school student's harassment :
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/maga-hat-wearing-teens-seeing-harassing-native-american-vietnam-veteran_us_5c435a09e4b0a8dbe171e2c6?fbclid=IwAR0UgBtZlIlHZ7IMa7WKIJ7Ujt5VB6gzYZHK-Y4-CZMhe2A4q78IQZEx4Wg
You mean how it actually went down.
Exactly!
It's fitting the two of you are still clinging to the disproven narrative even as the rest of the left wing has conceded it's falseness.
Sometimes, things happen exactly as you expect them to.
They seem to think that if they keeping repeating the same lies, they will somehow come true. Actually, that's pretty much the Democrat platform.
Hold on tight to that slim and thinning by the minute thread.
This has been going on since Trump became President. In the tradition of the Tawana Brawley hoax, the idea is to create a false image of "racism".
That tradition has been followed far more by rightwingers....one of the most memorable is the girl who disfigured her own face to try to claim it was done by Obama supporters. First clue, she tried to carve a "B" but did it backwards. No one ever claimed these people were bright.
Some question his service...
Mr Morelock is quite correct the 3rd/21st departed on August 11, 1972. The last U.S. Army combat unit and that left roughly 43,000 advisers, support troops and airmen in Vietnam.
According to the official Marine Corps historian the Marines were in Nam until April 1975.
The ''last combat unit'' and last combat troops can and are quite different. I would not tell the advisers there that they were not combat troops. Since they were attached to Vietnamese units they would not be considered a US combat unit, but there were indeed combat troops.
In March/April of 1972, Captain Riley USMC was covan (advisor) to the Vietnamese 3rd Marine Battalion.
His and the 3rd actions those days at Dung Ho are legendary.
Yes they were, Absolutely! Very brave men. That was a crazy time....
My records show the last US military personnel in any capacity left shortly after the last Marines, The Marine Embassy Guards were fully trained combat Marines of course, but they were not considered military combat personnel. (attached to the embassy diplomatic corps) April of '75 if I remember correctly, there was a small combined office on the senior governmental level doing final coordination of the turnover to ARVN control...... (they weren't there very long, three days I believe)
The Last refugee flight out of Vietnam was on March 29th, 1975. From Da Nang.....
A bunch of fucking cowards if you ask me.
The last official combat soldier (according to the government) was retired Msgt. Max Beilke, the last American combat soldier to leave Vietnam in 1973. He retired from the Army in '74. He became a civilian employee at the Pentagon who worked on veterans issues. Beilke, who was drafted in the Korean War, was the kid who'd always had a fishing pole in his hand, joined the U.S. Army and saw the world, said his sister, Lucille Johnson. "We could see him leaving (Vietnam) on television," Johnson said of her brother's return. "We all just beamed because we knew he'd soon be home safely."
And sadly, he died at the Pentagon September 11th, 2001. Beilke, deputy chief of the Retirement Services Division, of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel, was meeting with Lieuenant General Timothy Maude and retired Lieutenant Colonel Gary Smith at the Pentagon when a hijacked jet piloted by terrorists hit the outer ring of the building. The three men and 71 other personnel were killed.
It never rains but it pours....
Ah, the good ol' fallacy of "personal" knowledge of a tiny sample (what, his high school class at most?)extrapolated to an entire group. "Since I don't know anyone who went to Vietnam, then no one my age could have gone to Vietnam." As the actual history of the Vietnam War shows, the last combat troops came out of Vietnam on March 29, 1973. So men born in 1953, graduating high school in 1971 and entering the military as combat troops could very well have been sent to Vietnam in a combat unit in those almost two intervening years. But there were still U.S. Marines in Saigon for another 25 months after that as security for the embassy and other functions. This has nothing to do with Phillips, though. I just point out how far the rightwing will go to lie about things that can so easily be refuted. I enjoy doing that but it really is a full-time job because, like rust, the lying never rests.
so it is the usual babbling.
It's tough having rightwing lying revealed and demolished, isn't it.
anything the left says, just go with the exact opposite and you will be correct more times than not.
anything the 'right' says, just go with the exact opposite and you will be correct more times than not.
More evidence that the fake news narrative is accurate.
Just another chance for the nutty "Left" to ABUSE kids again to fit their agenda !
So, when are you going to apologize for the vicious and massive attacks on David Hogg?
Mr. Hogg ………….. interjected himself as a "savior", over and over, for his own gain ! All goes out the window when one decides to do that !
Thank you for keeping up that famous tradition of rightwing hypocrisy.
This a weird hill to die on since your narrative has been proven to be 100% false. But you do you, truth be damned...
Twitter suspended the account that pushed the initial one minute clip viral . A spokesperson for Twitter told CNN Business, "Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."
The internet lynch mob is threatening and harassing kids, while trying to get their parents fired over a misleading video.
The state of progressivism in 2019.
"There have been many threats against our lives, against our parents. Some of these include that we should be locked in the school and it should be burned to the ground, the school being bombed, school shooting threat...
“I, myself, wasn’t even present but I am very vocal about defending my school and my peers and I have been doxxed on three separate occasions,” Hillmann said. “This has lead to a tsunami of hateful messages and threats and everything above."
“A lot of people’s parents were also doxxed, their work was called. I mean, this could greatly affect their job. They could be fired,” Schroder added. “There are real consequences for these actions and it all spews from a 30-second clip taken out of a two-hour video out of context and people jumping to conclusions before the full story is released. Nobody did their research and it’s now showing.”
Due process is apparently not part of the liberal ideology.
Many Liberals don't believe in due process. Remember Brett Kavanaugh?
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When did you lot ever do that for kids on the left that piss you off?
Whataboutism? Your desperation is entertaining. Spin away...
Liberals believe in the mob mentality. They prove it almost daily.
Another video of the 'boys', one saying 'Its not rape if you enjoy it'. Also saw another video of the same kids harassing girls.
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Are you saying that the other incident with "adults" is ok because this kid said something wrong and stupid?
I don't see the entire group repeating it.
Mob mentality is for the left and their lies.
Doubling down on attacking minors?
I love the logic...
Some unidentified voice on a video said something offensive, therefore the rage and hatred I've been directing at specific kids before I heard the video is justified!
Interesting Twitter link, lib50, especially because it seems to not be at the same location as my seeded article/video. Yours shows snow-covered grass. The real event, shown in the seeded article, shows Native American and black militant adults taunting Covington high school students while they were waiting for their bus in front of the Lincoln Memorial on a concrete plaza that did not have snow.
Those students are not Covington High School students. Please consider fact-checking via reliable sources before posting false comments.
Furthermore, the young man in your video who said, "It's not rape if you enjoy it" isn't wrong. He described consensual sexual intercourse.
Huh? It has been verified, and I've seen other bad behavior from them as well. And its taken the same day with snow. Here is a nice racist shot of some blackface. Are you denying these things happened? Are you denying this school has some race issues?
Wow. Blackouts at sporting events are now "black face." Lots of professional teams have been sponsoring racist blackouts for the last decade or so. Who knew?
Somebody better tell the Eagles there's a man in Green face insulting my irish ancestors!
That's almost as good as the tweets yesterday claiming the Covington B-ball players were racists because they were making the signal for a three pointer with their hands!
But keep on that collective guilt thing. Out of curiosity do you condemn all Indians because one said racist things to the kids at the plaza? Because you use the tactics of those racists who every time they hear of a black person committing murder, use the acts of the one to condemn the whole race. You and KKK think alike!
This wasn’t directed at me, but yes, I deny the school has race issues. You’re falling in the same trap that initially caused this shitstorm. The deceptive media is desperately trying to cling onto some part of a racist narrative.......step away, go for a long walk and you’ll see it.
What is becoming increasingly obvious though is unhinged liberals are a danger to society. They need some serious help.
Perhaps the quickly approaching class action legal suit against them regarding this incident will stop their hatred.
When someone continues to repeat a false narrative, one wonders what their motives are. Do they have race issues?
I doubt it.......lawsuits are simply acceptable collateral damage to these idiots.
Bottom line, they shut down a pro-life Catholic high school for a day. This was a huge victory in their eyes, even if it were only for one day. Expect more of the same.
Oh, the rightwing hypocrisy is massive on this subject. I think the vicious reaction from this side has to do with having one of your shitty, smirking evil spawn pricks caught out showing the true side of MAGA in too public a way.
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Their motives are clear
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Administrators closed the school and campus for today to all students and personnel due to safety concerns. All after-school activities were cancelled.
They are endangering the lives of children with their fake news. Nathan should be prosecuted.
He should be prosecuted.
Why did he feel entitled to approach a minor and literally bang a drum and chant inches from the boy's face?
They’ve gone too far this time. I hate that I feel like this, but it’s time to fight back.
It is NOT a fake story, and these kids were behaving badly before the incident. And I distinctly remember conservatives here and there and everywhere saying some really disgusting things about the Parkland students. You know, the ones who got shot up in school?
It's been demonstrated to be fake news. No amount of deflection can change that.
Very interesting comments from Nathan Phillips .. I like how 'some' have decided that they know what is the best way for others to act .. the childish arrogance that is present in the statements below is a bit over the top - but it is comforting to know that 'God' called upon Phillips to step in .. perhaps 'God' should have told Phillips to mind his own business and none of this would be happening … ?
Because the press chose to lie about what the students did, they are now pariah? Now Phillips is doubling down on being the victim .. and still claims hate and racism... [shakes head] this could be an educational moment that shows how false perception can get out of hand and lead to accusations of racial motives when hate and race/bigotry were never a factor .. but nope, there are those that are not done pouting!
Someone explain how the chaperones could have stopped Phillips from crossing over to the students, as that was the only way to 'prevent letting this happen' .. should they have formed a human chain to prevent the interaction? Perhaps Phillips needs to accept some responsibility for his part in the incident?
From the recordings there was nothing escalating that required intervention .. the student were not in attack mode, and the racist 5 were certainly not going to attack the students, as I doubt those 'men' could produce a set of balls between all 5 of them...
Sad event, made sadder by the lies told in order to fit a narrative of hate filled 'white privilege' students in MAGA hats!
Update:
Is coming as a delegate really coming to have a conversation - or is it coming to talk at the students … seems Phillips is still not ready to accept that his own action played a part in the 'incident' ...?
I hope an honest conversation can take place .. this nation does not need any more divides created through lies...
I would reject the idea. He has a record now of staging publicity stunts. I would not give him a platform.
The more I read and put comments made by Phillips into context .. his arrogance knows no bounds, he is accepting no responsibility - yet at the same time crying out with indignation that Sandmann is taking no responsibility .. Phillips was the one that took it upon himself to stick his nose where it did not belong .. God told him to step in (?) so he is the righteous one? The boyz were beastly and the black old men their prey - Ooo for Pete's sake can anyone say drama queen/victim?
I will have to defer to the peeps with a higher pay scale then I … but to your point, NO I would not want Phillips speaking to my high school age son - I could not trust Phillips to be honest, my son has been raised to respect his elders .. yet respect is still something that is earned, as respect is shown..
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P.s... I was just emailing with a good friend from the Crow Nation - he assures me that everyone's body begins to move when the drums begin to sound, it is part of human nature .. not everything can be considered mockery, as it is hard not to get caught up in the moment … just passing along what I was told..
Still think this whole thing is a sad state of affairs...
That Phillips included "cultural appropriation" signals an immediate NO from me. By doing so, he will continue his racist propaganda by telling students that they're not allowed to like certain foods, music, or art because according to Phillips, those things are driven by RACE and not by seeking and understanding acceptance through diversity.
We’re past that now. Kids have been threatened to the point where they are scared to go to school. Threatened because of a fucking hat. Time to call this what it is.......domestic terrorism. We do not negotiate with terrorists.
Yes it is sad...and he doesn't even realize who the racist where.
Good points … I really never made it past delegate .. that alone sounds like he holds some superior ground over the students, as if he has something to teach them - that opportunity was lost the minute he called the students beasts ...
Agreed .. the whole event had to do with 'white boyz' and red MAGA hats … the all things anti Trump crowd seem to see red hats and white boyz as something to use in their phony outrage over racism and hate .. the only racists and bigots this past weekend were not white, nor wearing red hats...!
There seems to be a swath of the nation with their heads buried in the sand on that subject....
When I researched before I ever commented on any of this I came across a article him and EMU college (Eastern Michigan University) that had notes of this same incident, I read one article and his statements. then I read another article and his interview and just like with on the Lincoln Memorial his statements changed to make him look more like a victim so then I was suspect.
Because he has a Go fund Me acct and is claiming that he was a recon something or ever in the Marines they have a FOIA on his military history if he has any. You can go to jail for stolen valor.
The heartbeat of Mother Earth, Colour - you gotta move or else you're a Zombie and can't feel the heartbeat.
When I read your comment about this, I was shocked, so I looked it up. Sure enough, Raina Meyer, a teenager in MN, started an account for him to use as he wants . She's raised $365 out of $50,000 so far.
In addition, she completely misrepresented what actually happened.
https://www.gofundme.com/fundraiser-for-native-vietnam-vet-nathan-phillips
I thought about drums in my sleep last night … it is near impossible not to bob ones head, begin to rock your body to the drums beat .. it is primal … essential ... fundamental. A drum is (to paraphrase what you said) a 'heartbeat to be felt' ……..
Peace
Did you see the Nick Sandmann interview with Savanah Guthrie this morning?
She was ridiculed for interviewing him. Left wing demeaning left wing. Imagine that.
Here's a screen shot of Nick "The Smiring Prick" from that interview:
No smirk or MAGA hat on now, eh, Nick? Isn't he just a little darlin'? Why, he didn't do nothin' wrong and he certainly wasn't being in any way confrontational by standing in that injun's way or even a teensy-weensy bit disrespectful. On the contrary, his smile was a sign of admiration and respect for Native Americans. And, anyway, it was the old injun's fault.
If only there were jail terms for chickenshits who attack people who served this country.
Oh, my stars and garters!!!! I hope there was a fainting couch at hand. The Smirking Prick of Covington High is also a rich entitled little f**k whose parents are able to hire* a bunch of rightwing shitbags to conduct his PR campaign.
By, now the rightwing fascistosphere is already pumping money to this POS as well. But damn anyone else trying to get on the playing field, right? RIGHT?!
The little prick's family hired a PR firm to spin the story.
Nick is not wearing a Halo, to that I agree … but the truth of the event is found somewhere in the middle of all the stories told. You and I will most likely never agree on what that truth is … I have no reason to spin events, all I can do is interpret what I see .. you and I interpret differently
Phillips already thought of these students as beasts and the old black men were their prey before he ever felt fearful of them.. at the behest of God, he walked into the group of students intentionally, God told Phillips to 'step in' .. Phillips was not just finishing up and intending to leave the memorial area when he walked into a crowd of high school students, not going there to defend his honor from mockery .. he was there because God told him to step in...
I do not like what happened .. the first clip was unbelievable .. I was instantly angry at the disrespect shown Phillips - but come to find out, that was the media at its best deciding to push the narrative of race and hate, rather than find truth in what actually happened (outrage sells) … if the Black Hebrew Israelites had not released the full unedited video, no version of the truth would have been made available..
Hi B ...
Guthrie said Phillips had reached out .. and she was hoping he would be on tomorrow .. be interesting to hear what he has to say now … he did agree to talk with the boyz, I do not think that has changed .. but not yet scheduled that I know of
I hope so, too. But, Phillips is still claiming that he felt "threatened" by the Covington students even though the real video shows that Phillips and other adults approached the teens and not the way Phillips wants people to believe.
It's the red hats...adults where triggered to abuse children because of hats. You can even hear it in the video.
Professional victims never own up.
Perusing the New York Times comment section on a Brooks op-ed that calls for sanity.
One of the "Times Recommends" comments (posted 4 hours ago) is:
"Teen boys from a catholic prep school wearing MAGA hats chanting 'Build the Wall' get in the face of a native American who continues to beat a drum.."
One these lies start, they never get corrected.
If only you claiming they're lies made it so.
The smugness of the smile beneath the red chinese made hat is the story here.
The same smugness and the same smiles confronted certain people as they tried to enjoy a meal at a lunch counter in America's not so distant past.
Well, that was a terrible analogy.....
Why? Because it bothers you? If you've seen pictures of white racist scum pouring water and other drinks over the heads in those lunch counter sit-ins of the 60s you'd see the same sneering, smirking ugly faces. Nick the Smirking Prick comes from a long disgusting heritage of that sort of behavior.
An even more tenuous attempt...
I do enjoy the disgusting spectacle of rightwingers whining about how unfair it is to attack this smirking prick because they're always so respectful to and understanding of young people who take a stand, e.g., someone like David Hogg whose unforgivable "crime" was to speak out about gun violence. The galaxy-sized hypocrisy and ugliness of these people is once again documented.
Deflection will surely work! No fake news bigotry here!
If that's what you think calling out rightwing hypocrisy, viciousness and lying is sign me up for a lifetime contract.
All the rightwing whining about how mean people are being to Nick the Smirking Prick highlights just how vast and deep rightwing hypocrisy is as shown by the horrific way David Hogg and other MSD students who spoke out against our current absurd gun laws after the slaughter at their school. This should not need explanation, Tex.
If she could only find a white kid in a red hat to smile at her, she'd be the victim....
Azealia Banks begged Conor McGregor to 'help her' after she unleashed another vile social media rant aimed at Irish people, days after she branded them 'f***ing ugly' on Instagram...
she then branded Irish people 'inbred', 'leprechauns' and asked if they 'had a famine to go die in' in a series of social media comments
You lot are a bunch of prideful inbred leprechauns who have ZERO global influence and ZERO white privilege. The rest of the world's white folk don't want to associate with you lot at all and it's because you are barbarians.
Continuing her rant, she wrote: 'I'm happiest knowing the Irish are quarantined on an isle so they can continue to inbreed and keep their defective genes away from humanity.
I cannot find any relevance to my seed within your comment and link. Please explain.