A Matter Of Honor

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  johnrussell  •  last year  •  91 comments

A Matter Of Honor

One of the more interesting results of the Covington Catholic boys incident in Washington DC a few weeks ago is a new emboldening of the Trump supporters who like to advertise their allegiance to him by wearing the MAGA hat. We see articles, on NT and elsewhere where the writer exclaims his or her pride in emulating Donald Trump. 

I have only one question - what on earth is wrong with those people?

If there is one thing that is 100% a certainty concerning this Trump era, it is that it is not going to end well.  That is because history is the judge of it, and the history of Trump's path through American politics will be seen as a disaster of heretofore unknown proportions. 

Why anyone thought that electing a reality tv game show host with profound psychological malfunctions and blatant character defects to the presidency of the United States was a good idea is something that will be ridiculed and disparaged for decades, if not centuries, to come. 

There are certain aspects of Donald Trump that are a given. He lies to the American people on a daily basis, often distorting reality by the hour. Sometimes he will lie about something that the whole world can see on video. Trump has shown over and over that he is an ignoramus , making many factual mistakes , misidentifying people, misidentifying countries, misstating US policy, making ridiculously incorrect comments about US history, etc.  Trump is so often wrong about the facts connected to any days news stories one has to wonder whether or not he misstates facts on purpose, perhaps to confuse everyone under the impression that if everyone is confused it will benefit him somehow. From the perspective history will take, Trump will simply be seen as a very ignorant man whose narcissism butted heads with his ignorance. 

Trump is a known fraud and crook. There are no doubt many examples of this but two will suffice as proof. He defrauded the customers of Trump University through blatantly false advertising and he and his parents cheated the US government out of millions of dollars of taxes as wealth was passed from his parents to Donald Trump over the course of a number of years. Trump paid very little tax on 400 million dollars of income. According to a massive New York Times investigation last year, this was very illegal. 

Trump has totally failed to unite the American people, and has not even tried. He holds "rallies" where the main purpose is to attack all of Trump's "enemies". He also belittles his political opposition on a daily basis, often calling juvenile names using childish insults. 

There is a large group of psychiatrists that have concluded that Trump is not psychologically fit to be president of the United States. Let that sink in for a minute. 

Rather than prolong a recitation of the mountain of actions, words, traits and behavior by Donald Trump that should , on a daily basis, disqualify this man from holding any office, let alone the presidency, I will get to my main point. 

Those who support Trump have forfeited their honor. It is not possible to honestly believe that Trump is qualified to be president of the United States, or fit to hold our highest office. It simply is not possible. All support of Trump is based on unconscious , or willful , acceptance of a man who merits, by his own character, words and actions, no support. This is an incontrovertible truth. 

One day soon this psychic bill will come due. 

As I am writing this I have a news program on in the background. One news item just passing through -  Donald Trump's pastor says he has never seen Donald Trump in the church.  This is a man who many of his followers believe has been anointed by God. Delusions are ubiquitous when it comes to Trump. 


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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    last year

The United States is in a lot of trouble, since about a 1/3 of the population is willfully delusional concerning their leader. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

A lot of people think your remaining 2/3 are even more delusional...jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1    last year

Well maybe they do, but "my side" is not supporting a profoundly ignorant and dysfunctional individual. Is Trump completely stupid or mentally unbalanced? or both?  His entire presidency has played out like a black comedy or dark satire. But, so to speak, it is real. 

This level of disgrace will last a long long long time. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to    last year
Why do you think so? What evidence do you have?

Every day, every single day, without exception, Trump lies, makes mistakes on simple general knowledge facts, buffoons, dog whistles and embarrasses this country. 

The evidence is in the record of his presidency as commemorated in the nation's various media.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    last year

Talk to us when he is tried and convicted. Then you can say I told you so...

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to    last year
'Is Trump completely stupid or mentally unbalanced? or both?'

BOTH!  The turd shows us everyday.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year
Well maybe they do, but "my side" is not supporting a profoundly ignorant and dysfunctional individual.

But it has been in hissy fit mode since November 2016.  And for what?  Because you lost an election?  Because a person with zero experience in politics come in and beat career politicians at their own game?  

Yes, I support President Trump.  The same way as I supported President Obama, President Bush and President Clinton.  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
3  Hal A. Lujah    last year

Evangelicals see Trump as a remote control to get their way, because they are a rigid voting block and he has no ethical threshold when it comes to gaining their support.  Does it matter to them that he is a vile human being?  No.  They would have some serious explaining to do on judgement day if God were real.  

 
 
 
PJ
3.1  PJ  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    last year
 They would have some serious explaining to do on judgement day if God were real.  

For this reason I am hoping he is real.  I would love to be there when he shuts the door in their faces and tells them to go to hell.  hahahahahahaha

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    last year

I believe they see Trump as similar to one of the Old Testament figures who is flawed personally and behaviorally , but is being used by God as a vessel to enact God's will. Other than as a Bible story, the theory makes little sense. 

Add Evangelicals to the list of people who will have to reckon with profound embarrassment when this Trump era unravels. 

 
 
 
PJ
4  PJ    last year

Trump is a reflection of who they are as human beings.   They are one in the same and no amount of disclaimers put out there about how they don't like what he says but support his policies will change the truth.  That have no principles and they are morally lacking.   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5  Vic Eldred    last year

"As I am writing this I have a news program on in the background. One news item just passing through -  Donald Trump's pastor says he has never seen Donald Trump in the church.  This is a man who many of his followers believe has been anointed by God. Delusions are ubiquitous when it comes to Trump."

No, nobody believes that Trump has been anointed by God! The Evangelicals and other religious organizations who voted for Trump would have voted for Rubio or Cruz or whoever else the GOP nominated. This large part of the American electorate was driven to the Republican Party long ago by progressives.

Thank you, so much

 
 
 
nightwalker
5.1  nightwalker  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    last year

Ah, but you forget, trump announced that Jerusalem belonged to and was the capital of Israel, doesn't he at least get a holy pat on the head or some kind of blessing from somebody?

 What he did has a lot of religious people clapping their hands in glee over one more wonderful step to Armageddon.

And people wonder why everyone doesn't just love religions. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  nightwalker @5.1    last year
trump announced that Jerusalem belonged to and was the capital of Israel

So did other US Presidents before him. Something to think about for those concerned about words.

What he did has a lot of religious people clapping their hands in glee over one more wonderful step to Armageddon.

I'm not sure what that means?  Does that mean we act out of fear of the Palestinians?

 
 
 
nightwalker
5.1.2  nightwalker  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    last year

No, no other President has ever made such an announcement because it would increase tension in the Middle East a lot and the only one it pleases is Israel. That's nice, but was it a good idea? You may have noticed a increase in hostilities, just what the Middle East always needs.

Should we act out of hate for the Palestinians? Is this going to make relations with the Palestinians any easier?

 Or we should go ahead and get this war thing started and settle this Religious stuff literally once and for all?

That's what we were put here for, wasn't it?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  nightwalker @5.1.2    last year
Should we act out of hate for the Palestinians?

Not out of hate, (there has never been evidence of that) nor should we act out of fear (read the words of JFK).

 Is this going to make relations with the Palestinians any easier?

Relations will not be easy until the Palestinians recognize Israel's right to exist.

Or we should go ahead and get this war thing started and settle this Religious stuff literally once and for all?

We? Nobody has done more for peace in that hate-filled region.

That's what we were put here for, wasn't it?

Put here for?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    last year

nobody believes that Trump has been anointed by God! ==============================
  • Was Donald Trump anointed by God to be the next president ...

    https:// www.theblaze.com /news/2016/10/20/was-donald- trump -anointed...

    Getty Images/Ralph Freso. But there are some members of the charismatic Christian right who not only believe Trump is the “Christian choice” but also that the candidate has been specifically anointed by God — at this specific time in American history — to lead America from President Barack Obama’s version of America back to prosperity.

  • Millions of Americans Believe God Made Trump President ...

    https:// www.politico.com /magazine/story/2018/01/27/millions-of...

    Millions of Americans Believe God Made Trump President. Also sometimes referred to as “health and wealth” theology, this belief holds that God rewards faith with good health and financial success. By those very simple metrics, a billionaire like Donald Trump, whether his fortune came from family, scams or a higher power, must be a very faithful man.

  • The Real Reason Why Donald Trump Was Chosen To Be The ...

    So to those of you who say that “ God would never use a man like Donald Trump ” say that in violation of how God has already revealed Himself to be with the rulers of nations. Over the past 6 months, Donald Trump has beat every single opponent presented to him, and by whopping margins.

  • Trump’s ‘God whisperer’ says resisting him is an affront ...

    https:// thinkprogress.org / trump -spiritual-adviser-affront- god -d615...

    A stunning expression of Christian nationalism. White, a wealthy faith leader who originally gained notoriety for preaching a much-maligned version of the “ prosperity gospel ,” has been described as Trump’s “ God whisperer .” She is a longtime friend of the former businessman, was a regular surrogate for his campaign in 2016,...

  • Was Trump Appointed By God? – The Forward

    forward.com/fast-forward/359757/ trump-appointed-by-god

    As the President-elect would say, some people are asking. When one starts typing “Trump appointed” into Google, one of the first suggestions is “Trump appointed by god”. Contrary to popular query, Trump was affirmed by the U.S. Electoral College, not God, with 304 electoral votes on December 19, 2016.

  • Did God choose Trump? What it means to believe in divine ...

    https://religionnews.com/2017/01/17/did- god -choose- trump -what...

    Ham , by contrast, believes Trump , even before he takes the oath of office, is already working in harmony with God . Trump has appointed Christians to important positions in the new administration.

  • Is Donald Trump God’s Man of the Hour to Save America ...

    Also, according to the EU Times, Trump has secret society connections and is a “Freemason leader” (please click here for full article ). Bahman Nassiri, a former 32 nd degree Freemason, has confirmed this on his Youtube channel by alleging that Trump is an Eagle – that is,...

  • 3 people who see God working through Trump | Deseret News

    https:// www.deseretnews.com /article/865671268/3-people-who-see- God ...

    3 people who see God working through Trump . By Emily McFarlan Miller, Yonat Shimron and Kimberly Winston, Religion News Service ... especially Sen. Ted Cruz and Dr. Ben Carson. Trump , she said ...

  • WATCH: Pat Robertson Preaches Trump Was Appointed by God ...

    https://latest.com/2017/05/ watch-pat-robertson-preaches-trump -was...

    WATCH: Pat Robertson Preaches Trump Was Appointed by God to Oval Office. Posted on May 30, 2017 at 10:30pm. Share. ... Robertson and his Christian Broadcasting Network have long been ardent supporters of Trump as God ’s chosen candidate and often portray him as a fiercely Christian man. ... but Donald Trump has and you just wonder what God is ...

  • Appointed by God ! - askmehelpdesk.com

    https:// www.askmehelpdesk.com /current-events/ appointed - god -843270.html

    Huckabee claims Trump was appointed by God . Scripturally this is correct since God appoints rulers but it has been a long time since anyone claimed to be an anointed king. Trump is about as far from a desirable ruler as you could get, but he might possess qualities that could get the job done, depending upon which job you wanted done.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    last year

"Think Progress" is on the extreme end of the Media Bias/Fact Check.....We can't use it

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    last year

You're appropriating Mac's style...he's gonna be pissed!  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6  The Magic Eight Ball    last year
That is because history is the judge of it, and the history of Trump's path through American politics will be seen as a disaster of heretofore unknown proportions. 

"history" will not give a flip what the left thinks.

 

Government

Department of Justice

Cutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)

Economy

US Economic Confidence Surges To Highest Level Ever Recorded By Gallup

Homeland Security

Department of Defense

Veterans Administration

Trade Deals

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6    last year

lol. In the first paragraph of history book sections on Donald Trump it will be stated that he was a constant liar. 

Any president could post a list of their "accomplishments" such as you just did. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.1.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    last year
Any president could post a list of their "accomplishments" such as you just did.

 no... not even in your dreams

obama only wishes he could post these as his accomplishments.

Jobless Claims Lowest Level Since 1969

killing thousands of obama regulations worked like a charm

history will remember that also.

 
 
 
bugsy
6.1.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    last year
it will be stated that he was a constant liar. 

Who gives a crap. You can't dent what 8 ball posted because you know every bit of it is true. I will take a lying politician who gets things done through leadership than a lying politician who only wanted to use a phone and a pen.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @6.1.2    last year

We have a president that is a pathological liar.

We have a president that has cheated the US government out of tens of millions of dollars in taxes.

We have a president that paid a 25 million dollar settlement to hundreds of people his personal business defrauded.

We have a president who makes significant mistakes of fact every single day.

We have a president who behaves like a buffoon.

I want you to say you like Trump as president. Please, keep telling everyone you approve of a man who is a liar cheat crook ignoramus and buffoon. And those are not opinions, those are proven facts. Please Bugsy, tell everyone how much you admire a liar cheat ignoramus crook and buffoon.

 
 
 
bugsy
6.1.4  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.3    last year
I want you to say you like Trump as president.

OK, I like Trump as President. He has done more positive things for this country in 2 years than the loser that preceded him in his entire 8 years.

With the exception of the 25 million, the rest of your post is your OPINION only, and not very good ones.

 
 
 
nightwalker
6.1.5  nightwalker  replied to  bugsy @6.1.2    last year

Looks more like "if you can't dazzle them with truth, bury them in bullshit" to me. Lot of the things conservatives claim as a win aren't wins for anybody and some of the other wins aren't his to claim.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    last year

We'll take you anywhere you want to go John, but never seriously.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.6    last year

Wally is looking for you. You can help each other.

 
 
 
PJ
6.3  PJ  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6    last year

Fake news

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
8  Release The Kraken    last year

Every day John reminds us of his anguish over election night 2016.

One would think he'd be over it by now.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @8    last year

Many people can separate the Trump presidency from the 2016 election. You seem to be completely unable to.

Every word of what I said in the article is true.

We have a president that is a pathological liar.

We have a president that has cheated the US government out of tens of millions of dollars in taxes.

We have a president that paid a 25 million dollar settlement to hundreds of people his personal business defrauded.

We have a president who makes significant mistakes of fact every single day.

We have a president who behaves like a buffoon.

And all you can do is talk about the election 2 1/2 years ago.

One almost has to ask why you are so averse to criticizing Trump.  What are your motivations to pretend this travesty is nothing?

 
 
 
bugsy
8.1.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    last year

Please point out which of the opinions you posted has affected your life personally?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @8.1.1    last year

My opinions?

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
8.1.3  Release The Kraken  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    last year

Too Funny.

I often wonder if you can go two minutes without groveling over the Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @8.1.3    last year

BF, we have the worst president in the history of this country. He is provably a serial liar, crook, fraud, cheat, ignoramus , and buffoon. And yet you have never criticized him. You attack those who criticize Trump, not Trump.

Objectively, you have a lot of explaining to do.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
8.1.6  Old Hermit  replied to  Release The Kraken @8.1.3    last year
I often wonder if you can go two minutes without groveling over the Trump.

BF, Freudian slip?

I mean, if you were responding to one of John's clear observations about Trump it would have had to read something like;

I often wonder if you can go two minutes without trying to   educate America about Trump.

Though there are several posters on this site that do " GROVEL " for Trump constantly, ( 51EJb%2B2bNPL._SY679_.jpg ), John can in no way be considered part of that ever shrinking segment of America.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    last year
BF, we have the worst president in the history of this country.

Clearly not old enough to remember Carter, Nixon or LBJ.

 
 
 
bugsy
8.1.8  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    last year

OK, so you post OPINIONS of others wo do not like Trump. Who cares.

Now, answer my question. What has Trump done that PERSONALLY affects YOU, besides making you go broke on butt hurt cream.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
8.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Release The Kraken @8    last year

Comes from being faced with the truth they cannot admit or accept. It is always so much better to blame others and tell them how wrong they are...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.2    last year

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bugsy
8.2.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.1    last year

removed for context

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @8.2.2    last year
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No, it is obvious common sense. Do you even pay attention to what Trump says every day. He is dumb as a fucking rock.  Whod of thunk it?

 
 
 
arkpdx
8.2.4  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    last year
He is dumb as a fucking rock. 

Just think how dumb and incompetent his opponent was since he so handily defeated her. Is she even able to breath for herself? We sure got lucky that day.. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
8.2.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.1    last year

removed for context

 
 
 
bugsy
8.2.6  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    last year
He is dumb as a fucking rock

Who cares??????/ Obama was dumber than a rock and you slobbered over him for almost an entire decade.

Of course, when that was pointed out, you and your ilk screamed raaaaacccciiiisssssss.....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @8.2.6    last year
Who cares??????/ Obama was dumber than a rock and you slobbered over him for almost an entire decade.

As long as people are allowed to say idiotic things like that on NT, and people who understand the truth are not allowed to respond appropriately, this site will never reach it's potential.

We have right wingers on this site who spend all their time doing the sort of gaslighting bamboozling and nonsense making as is seen in the above.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
8.2.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.7    last year

Sweeping generalisation if there ever were....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
8.2.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.2.5    last year

removed for context

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.10  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.2.8    last year

Bla bla bla.   "Conservatives" should be ashamed of themselves. They are aiding and abetting the worst president in our history as a nation.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.11  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.2.9    last year
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lol. Are you serious?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.12  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.1    last year

[Deleted, meta]

Trump is a fraud, a con man, a perpetual liar, a crook, an ignoramus, and a buffoon. Those are not guesses. Those are the reality of the situation. 

They try and defend Trump by either attacking me or making preposterous comparisons between Trump and Obama or Clinton. It is nothing but gaslighting and bamboozling. 

 
 
 
nightwalker
8.2.13  nightwalker  replied to  bugsy @8.2.6    last year

Let's see, Obama:

Graduated Columbia University with a degree in Political Science, 1983.

Entered Harvard law school 1988, met Constitution law Professor Laurence Tribe who added Obama as his research assistant in 1989.

In 1990, Obama was elected editor of the Harvard Law Review.

Graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School 1991.

After law school he went to Chicago and was a civil rights lawyer for the firm Miner, Barnhill and Gayland law firm. (Strike one from the conservative parade, "civil rights.") Boooo! Hssss!

He also lectured at The University of Chicago first as a lecturer and later as a Professor, 1992-2004.

Married Michelle in 1992.

Here's another baaddd one (strike two from the conservatives) in 1985 worked as a community organizer for low income resident communities on Chicago's south side. (the words "organizer combined with "low income" drives conservatives crazy.)

Yep, that's one dumb rock, alright. You can tell, he's only been married once, and is still married to (can you imagine?) his first wife.

Let's peek at your He-row, the one with a GOOD brain, even if he has to say so himself, and he DOES have to say so himself because nobody else will.

New York Military Academy at 13, star athlete and student leader (daddy was rich, right? of course, that wasn't a factor) grad 1964.

Fordham University for 2 years, then transferred to Wharton School of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania grad 1968, degree in economics. 

That's it, if you don't count scripted reality game show host.

But he is on his third wife, good boy, it only makes the evangelists love him more. 

 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
8.2.14  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    last year
Do you even pay attention to what Trump says every day

Nope! But I don't suffer from OCD.

 
 
 
JumpingJackFlash
9  JumpingJackFlash    last year

blah blah, so much certainty. Reminds me of pre-election polls.

Trump 2020, Keep America Great!!!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
10  Jack_TX    last year
a new emboldening of the Trump supporters who like to advertise their allegiance to him by wearing the MAGA hat. 

Their boldness never waned. 

If there is one thing that is 100% a certainty concerning this Trump era, it is that it is not going to end well.

Let's face it.  No matter how it ends you will declare it a catastrophe.  If every American is a millionaire and cancer is cured by the time he leaves office, you'll find something to whine about. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
11  Dean Moriarty    last year

512

 
 
 
Greg Jones
11.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Dean Moriarty @11    last year

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Greg Jones
11.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Greg Jones @11.1    last year

How does it skirt the CoC?

 
 
 
It Is ME
12  It Is ME    last year

"emboldening of the Trump supporters who like to advertise their allegiance to him by wearing the MAGA hat. "

"Make America GREAT Again" is much better than wearing hats and shirts "advertising for Pepsi" or claiming "I'm with Stupid" !

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