Bill Maher's Red States/Blue States Lecture Once Again Shows Why Trump Won The 2016 Election
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I admit that I don’t really dislike Bill Maher. Yes, he’s liberal. Yes, he mocks conservatives, but he also takes his side to task for their anti-free speech antics, their political correctness overload, and their obliviousness to how antithetical radical Islam is to Western values, and how it’s a problem. On the other hand, he’s totally part of the snobby elitist wing of liberal America who thinks that everyone else should be like the liberal Northeast or the Left Coast. You see folks...this is exactly how Trump won and lulled liberals into a false sense of security concerning Hillary Clinton. So, for Maher, concerning conservative and liberal America, it’s the former who’s jealous of the latter, or something (via Newsweek):
Bill Maher ridiculed red state voters in a segment about Amazon’s HQ2 locations, saying that the rich and educated people of America live in blue states.
“That’s why red state voters are so pissed off. They don’t hate us, they want to be us,” the Real Time host said on Friday night. “They want to go the party. It’s like we’re the British royal family and they’re Meghan Markle’s dad.”
Maher quoted Hillary Clinton, who has said that during the 2016 election she won the “places that represent two-thirds of America’s gross domestic product.” Clinton has also boasted that she won over voters in areas that are “optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward.”
“Maybe that has something to do with why Trump voters are obsessed with ‘owning the libs.’ Because the libs own everything else,” Maher quipped. “The blue parts of America are having a big prosperity party while that big sea of red feels like their invitation got lost in the mail.”
The HBO host continued to pile on the insult for red state residents, saying that there are “no red carpets in Wyoming” and no one asks them what they’re wearing because “the answer is always Target.”
“We have chef Wolfgang Puck, they have Chef Boyardee,” he said. “Our roofs have solar panels, theirs have last year’s Christmas lights.”
You see this is where Maher is totally wrong. I couldn’t care less about Wolfgang Puck or Chef Boyardee, but more importantly, Bill. Most of the country could only afford the latter. That’s what most of liberal America doesn’t get. You don’t come off sounding educated when you boast about your night out eating overpriced meat, vegetables, and booze; you come off as a tool. Also, most people don’t have time to deal with this nonsense. They have bills to pay, kids to feed, and now worry that socialist Democrats will creep into their slice of the world, pulverize it, and leave them destitute because…they’re red state residents. There’s also nothing wrong with shopping at Target or Wal-Mart, both of which could be the major employer of a small town. Again, who the hell cares what you’re wearing. It’s also not accurate that Blue State America is rolling in it. New Jersey is straight up trashconcerning business-friendly environments, New York is seeing their income tax revenue drop because, and this goes for Jersey as well, these folks are leaving high-tax states for—shocker—red ones. But these folks are also bringing their liberal politics, which isn’t desirable either. No, Bill, I’d rather be dead than be forced to comply with liberal America’s code of what’s acceptable.
We hate you because you hate us. You can’t stand that families were supported through coal mining, law enforcement, and factory work. Jobs that didn’t require being forced to submit to the authoritarian ethos inherent in leftism that dominates college campuses. I don’t want to hate anyone. It’s a horrible feeling. Being angry all the time sucks, but you people start trouble all the time due to your intolerance over the fact that there are people who have differing views. Yes, I know, they get in the way of your plans to wreck the country through Medicare for All, free college, and the Green New Deal.
Now, conservatives need to recognize this. The Trump presidency should inject a sense of urgency into any card-carrying Republican that this is a state of war. That the country’s future is at stake in 2020 and that liberals are the enemy, they hate us, and they hate how you live. They will pop champagne over endless communities that they destroy in order to further the progressive cause, a Great Leap Forward but without the high body count. We need to hate the Left more than they hate us. It’s going to be uncomfortable at times, but there has to come a time where there’s recognition that we share nothing in common with the urban-based liberal. We just want to be left alone. That’s not necessarily saying we want to be emasculated, feeble, effete beat men that roam the landscapes of liberal America.
It’s more of a détente really. You stay over there with your socialist garbage and we’ll wallow over here in freedom. We’ll be content with raising our families the best we can, shopping at Target, looking for deals, and not having to worry about Wolfgang Puck or anything that snobby condescending liberal elites deem essential. And guess what, that’s okay. As I said, if they like living in a world that’s totally insane, please be my guest; this is America. But when you try to export your left-wing nonsense where it’s not wanted but continue to do so because you think you’re morally superior because of your liberal views (and designer brands), get the hell off my lawn.
Last note, Maher is a comedian. He knows his audience. And he has the right to bash Republicans on his show. We have the right to make sure his ideas, and the candidates who back them, fail by not voting for them in 2020. As always, folks--don't forget to vote.
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“No, Bill, I’d rather be dead than be forced to comply with liberal America’s code of what’s acceptable.
We hate you because you hate us. You can’t stand that families were supported through coal mining, law enforcement, and factory work. Jobs that didn’t require being forced to submit to the authoritarian ethos inherent in leftism that dominates college campuses. I don’t want to hate anyone. It’s a horrible feeling. Being angry all the time sucks, but you people start trouble all the time due to your intolerance over the fact that there are people who have differing views . Yes, I know, they get in the way of your plans to wreck the country through Medicare for All, free college, and the Green New Deal.
Now, conservatives need to recognize this. The Trump presidency should inject a sense of urgency into any card-carrying Republican that this is a state of war. That the country’s future is at stake in 2020 and that liberals are the enemy, they hate us, and they hate how you live. They will pop champagne over endless communities that they destroy in order to further the progressive cause, a Great Leap Forward but without the high body count. We need to hate the Left more than they hate us. It’s going to be uncomfortable at times, but there has to come a time where there’s recognition that we share nothing in common with the urban-based liberal. We just want to be left alone . That’s not necessarily saying we want to be emasculated, feeble, effete beat men that roam the landscapes of liberal America.
It’s more of a détente really. You stay over there with your socialist garbage and we’ll wallow over here in freedom. We’ll be content with raising our families the best we can, shopping at Target, looking for deals, and not having to worry about Wolfgang Puck or anything that snobby condescending liberal elites deem essential. And guess what, that’s okay. As I said, if they like living in a world that’s totally insane, please be my guest; this is America. But when you try to export your left-wing nonsense where it’s not wanted but continue to do so because you think you’re morally superior because of your liberal views (and designer brands), get the hell off my lawn.” This article is the counterpart to this one at Real Clear Politics.
It is the sheer condescending arrogance of secular progressives from bi coastal areas such as Bill Maher toward us deplorables in Heartland America that led to Trump defeating Hillary. We like our lives and don’t need to be talked down to by anyone. A great article the way it replies to that mindset.
Pardone Me K A G,
do you, by chance, have any Grey Poupon...
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haven't seen Bill in a bit, but do enjoy his.
Yea, no one likes snooty snobbish know it alls,
but,
arrogant Ignorant Fools, don't seem to be solving too much via their defiance,
neither.
So, perhaps Blue States should ? do what ? to stave off, the ever growing numbers of ignorant ?
Faux News, LIES, and defunding education doesn't seem to be the answer.
My answer is a solid reading of the seeded article. You live like you want to in your county or city and we do likewise in ours. I agree with what the article says regarding having your lifestyle and ideology crammed down our throats. We have nothing in common with urban based liberals and want to be left alone.
I don't like Maher much either, but quit acting like everyone owes you something.
Many liberals work in LE. What needs to change is the idea that LEOs are above the law and better training to handle people in the process of mental crisis. Coal mining is antiquated and dieing out. Now we have to clean up the toxic sludge left over. Should we put that in your neighborhood? Factory work is now all about replacing as many workers with automation. It's a 13:1 labor reducing action. Your wold view is already the past. It's not going to come back. I'm not saying all conservative ideas won't work, but to cling to something that capitalism has already changed and blaming it all on liberals is kind of idiotic.
As opposed to jobs that force workers to submit to the authoritarian ethos inherent in rightism that makes slaves of workers - Little to no benefits and depressed wages. It was the labor unions that created a strong middle class.
Why do different views like Maher's make you angry? Why do you care? Mahr is only a stand up comedian with a weekly tv show.
Again, why does the idea (there are no actual plans for any of these) make you angry. These are ideas to improve people's health and lives? Improving people's health and knowledge makes more people more productive members of society. Why is this bad.
War, huh? The war better bettering people lives and keeping them poor and in servitude to a corporate master?
Not really. They hate how you want to make them live by some cherry picked religious dogma. Those conservatives that spout it don't even follow it, but you keep lecturing it like makes you arbitors of moral authority. It really doesn't
Good luck with that. You've already lost.
Except that the youth that can put more than 2 brain cells together is finding out this is a lie.
Another lie. If you wanted to be left alone you would not form protest marches and form plans of war on people that would rather you left them alone.
That’s the problem with secular progressives, they feel the need to make all of us like them and try to do it with missionary like zeal.
Taliban, Tealaban....no difference.
That's objectively a stupid comment.
.........But two things are worth noting: The live audience applauded wildly at every insult he lobbed, and plenty of Americans think his jabs truly reflect how the blue-state cultural elite views people from red states.
Case in point: When the students from Covington Catholic got into an altercation with a progressive Native American activist, they were immediately judged guilty of heinous behavior before anyone had found out the facts. Why? Well, they were from Kentucky and had MAGA hats on. Jussie Smollett’s allegations of an attack by racist whites wearing MAGA hats was also immediately reported as true by the national press and celebrities, because they assumed that, of course, a Trump supporter would do that. Like Maher’s rant, they see Middle America as white, stupid, racist and filled with envy.
Many experts believe this attitude is what drove people to vote for Donald Trump in 2016. But many voters with red-state roots do not support Trump and take umbrage at Maher’s quip. They say his comments aren’t just a throwaway line from a comedian, but a real and growing problem for America — one that reinforces their distrust of the elite, continues to fuel the national divide, and has pushed them away from ever voting Democrat.
Ken Garner, a 56-year-old semi-retired attorney who lives in the very red state of Texas, says he enjoys the finer things in life: good food, museums, books, tasteful clothing, nice cars, high technology and classical music, “all the things that Maher claims only blue state people like.”
He says there is “not a shred of resentment as far as I can observe” from the people he meets across the Lone Star State towards those who live in blue states.
Garner doesn’t care much for the president, so much so that his Republican voting streak, which began in 1980, ended in the last presidential election when he decided not to cast a vote. But he’s also weary of the red-state bashing and says he gets why people who voted for Trump are also tired of it.
“I won’t vote for any Democrats,” he said.
Maher’s comments also ignore some startling facts. According to a recent Gallup poll, there are currently only six states where liberals outnumber conservatives: Massachusetts, Hawaii, Vermont, Washington, New York and New Hampshire.
Even in California, conservatives and liberals are split 29 percent to 29 percent, and in every other state, conservatives lead. Nationally, they outnumber liberals by nine percentage points.
Even people in the so-called blue states — such as Maine, Oregon, New Jersey and Illinois — don’t mostly identify as liberals. Comments like Maher’s fail to realize that blue staters don’t actually think as one. And many are increasingly put off by the idea that they do.
Kevin Oliver lives and works in the belly of the blue beast, the Washington DC Beltway. The 48-year-old business consultant and military reservist grew up in Winder, Georgia, and came here at the age of 32. He says he still maintains his red-state values, is a “constitutionalist” politically and doesn’t care much for Trump, but still, he feels the attitudes of people like Maher are wrong-headed and dangerous.
“The current left in America talks a great game about all people being equal, but the reality is they love to look down on people who are not in their orbits,” he said. “The elitism is sickening.”.........
No argument from me!
Nothing in common with urban liberals?????
What about living in peace, decent jobs, and taking care of our families?
You can't rile up the ignorant rubes with truths like that, TG.
But can I have props for trying?
Sure. There is plenty of evidence some of the young conservatives know this to be a lie. They aren't all abandoning the conservative way, but they are abandoning this lie that liburz are evil. It carriers of madness (and hate) are mostly misogynistic men with fragile egos. Men who feel threatened by women, gays and people who don't profess to get their marching orders from God.
And you wonder why as the article says that we’d rather be dead than be forced to live like urban secular progressives under the thumb of their rules. We like our lives in our areas the way they are just fine.
No.
being respectful and helping others is such a burden to alt+righters.
Fixed it for you.
Do you think I live in an urban hell hole just because I'm a liberal?
Some days you just don't make any sense at all
There are some conservatives in the big cities and some liberals in rural areas. We are both exceptions to the general rule of demographics as you are from Arkansas and I’m from California.
I guess manipulation of my words come easier than generating your own on the seeded topic.
That’s what we want and with no input from them about how we live our lives where we live.
Hey! Guess what???
I don't want any input from YOU and YOUR KIND on how I live MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but it seems every fucking day that's exactly what I get
My kind? My kind of what?
christian evangelical busybody
As opposed to secular progressive control freaks who want to dictate to us from a position of condescending arrogance?
That is what we expect where we live how we live without critical input or condescending arrogance from the other side.
You see folks...this is exactly how Trump won
Lol. Not exactly. He had some off shore help getting connected to the hayseeds that he personally can't stand. Remember, Sessions is a just dumb southerner according to Trump.
Have any links or evidence of this off shore help?
Didn’t think so!
....No one in the heartland wanted to talk about former Trump minion Michael Cohen’s spin on what he thought or felt or saw – although legacy media types did their best to hype it. And Mid-western folks cared not for the hysterics from the left and their doomsday prophecy on the impending implosion of Mother Earth in 2031. The $93 trillion Green New Deal is not a common-sense conversation starter either, with the rural folks. They just smile and brush off the nonsense with a simple “well bless your heart” – a versatile line, which in this case translates to “you are just plain stupid.”
Just another day in the middle of nowhere.
Bill Maher
But the Hollywood types – specifically those who find themselves on the d-list or lower – have been making political noise intended to ruffle a few feathers. In most cases, the folks in flyover country either ignore the blatant stupidity, counterattack with educated vigor, or scratch their collective heads and ask: “Who is this person anyway?”
This week, for whatever reasons – weather, weak coffee, loss in agricultural commodity markets – the rural people just couldn’t let it slide.
Ya Just Don’t Get It
Bill Maher believes he is relevant. Host of the HBO show Real Time , Maher went off on a rant about the good people in the middle of America who wish they could live in the city and therefore are acting out and voting red. Not a political or policy genius, this guy, though few folk between the Appalachians and the Rockies would know. In fact, people only found out that Maher essentially passed gas in the church pew after Breitbart published an article on Facebook. Here’s what he said that led heartlanders to enter “who is Bill Maher” into their search engines:
Well, even folks living in blue states are pouring out of the city and heading to greener pastures. Flyover folks are happy where they are at, and are the envy of those stranded in Los Angeles, Chicago, or D.C. – just ask a southern Californian, Ari Molinari:
According to Julie Jackson of Oklahoma: “Save the stamp. We don’t want an invitation to your world.”
Of course – as leftists are wont to do – Maher doubled-down on the insults and let this gem slide off his old, tired tongue: “We have orchestras and theater districts and world-class shopping. We have Chef Wolfgang Puck, they have Chef Boyardee.”
No one should slam a true American Dream icon. No one.
John Wiemer took the lead in defense:
A real Dreamer, and one who contributed to the nation he loved. Maher is no match for those who love and live in the boondocks – many of whom had never heard of him anyway – so he remains irrelevant in political persuading for the left.
Saddle Up For Trump
Another event that caught the eye and praise from the rural people was a horseback ride through the streets of the nation’s capital by men and women waving Trump 2020 flags. The group, Cowboys for Trump, comprise mostly folks from the southern counties in New Mexico who wanted to show their support for the president and his determination to secure their porous border. But they added one last rider, Leo Wolf Portugal, a Native American living in Maryland, who gladly explained: “I’m not quiet about how I love Trump and what he’s doing.”
The ride was a peaceful show of solidarity with Trump and a taste of the life that these rural people live every day. https://www.libertynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Cowboys-for-Trump-768x512.jpg 768w, 1024w, 90w, 180w, 95w, 219w, 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px" src="https://www.libertynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Cowboys-for-Trump-300x200.jpg" > They carried the New Mexico flag, Old Glory, and Trump banners and told anyone who asked that they were riding to “defend life … defend families with our Second Amendment.”
Gavin Clarkson told reporters: “They’re riding to defend the rights of the unborn – the right to life … We’re riding to defend the lives of the young children that are smuggled across our insecure border.”
As you can imagine, patriots across the nation went wild with pride and freely expressed their love of these demonstrating men and women. Trent Mortensen of Safford, Arizona, offered one stellar idea: “The Cowboys need to throw Nancy and Chuck over a saddle and escort them directly to the border then just turn them loose with no security and let them see the importance of the border wall.” And Patricia Treasure described the event, “This was so emotional to watch. Made me proud, but nothing on the news! We need to correct this.”
True American grit. Men and women who wore patriotism like their own well-earned mantle on the mean streets of the Swamp to support a border wall. But the event was, perhaps, summed up best by the youngest rider – Walker Acres, 23, from Las Cruces, New Mexico: “I love immigration, but it’s got to be the legal way. We’ve got to have a little say as to who gets to come into our country.”
And there you have it, folks, a little common sense from cowboys and the followers of Chef Boyardee....
The whole urban outlook toward inland rural , small town, and exurb life in America is rather odd. They should be happy with what they have if they like it so much and leave us the heck alone as we are quite happy where we are with the lives we have.
Even with that fact firmly in hand the conservatives still try to push him off as a leader or spokesman of the Democrats.
Not sure what post your response is directed at and it’s an odd post to be starting a thread with.