Graham on why Dem Party 'turned its back on God'
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With the 2020 election just around the corner, Rev. Franklin Graham asked and answered his own question Tuesday regarding the anti-Christian policies being pushed by every Democratic presidential candidate.
“Why has the Democratic Party turned its back on God?” Graham opened his Facebook post Tuesday before offering his conclusion at the end. “The root of the issue is that many politicians don’t want God in any part of their politics or our country’s business because His standards condemn their sins.”
Sin sells …
Bottom line – people hate feeling guilty for their sins – and they want to still consider themselves as “good” people when doing the opposite of what God calls for in the Bible, and Graham indicates that by omitting God from politics, Democratic candidates can sell their agendas because sin without guilt sells.
The president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA) and Samaritan’s Purse made his case and point by bringing up the recent words of one Democratic congressman from Tennessee.
“Yesterday, the New York Times reported that since gaining the majority, Democrats have been making changes to House traditions – including sometimes omitting the words, ‘So help me God,’ from the swearing-in oath,” Graham wrote on Facebook. “Rep. Steve Cohen of TN said, ‘I think God belongs in religious institutions: in temple, in church, in cathedral, in mosque – but not in Congress.’”
Cohen – who serves as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties -- went on to argue that the Republican Party is going against God’s will by including Him as the backbone behind American society and government.
“[What Republicans are doing] is using God,” Cohen added, according to the New York Times . “And God doesn’t want to be used.”
The son of the iconic Billy Graham then offered the anti-Christian member of Congress from Memphis, Tennessee, and other Democratic leaders some sound biblical advice.
“I would say to Rep. Cohen and other politicians, basically what Rep. Garret Graves of LA said – ‘We need more of God, not less!’” Graham continued. “What Rep. Cohen is suggesting is just what Communism did in Eastern Europe and is still doing in places around the world like Cuba. Communism only allows worship inside approved churches. God is our Creator and the maker of the universe. He is present everywhere; He is not limited to churches or temples.”
But after the head of the House Energy and Commerce Oversight subcommittee, Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), conducted a hearing by swearing in witnesses without using God in the phrase, she was unapologetic when Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) brought it to her attention that “the oath was incorrect and incomplete.”
“This is the oath we use, and that’s the oath we’re going to use today,” DeGette told Duncan, according to the Times, which claimed that she was merely using the same oath that her predecessor, Rep. Gregg Harper (R- Miss.) used.
Regardless of the Democrat’s intentions, the Center for Inquiry – a nonprofit group committed to championing ‘a secular society based on reason, science, freedom of inquiry and humanist values’ – applauded DeGette’s ‘support for the constitutional separation of church and state,’ which is actually a concept devised by president Thomas Jefferson to actually keep the government from infringing on church affairs, but erroneously used by Democrats to abolish God from the public square.
Responding to DeGette’s decision to eliminate God from the oath, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) contended that Democrats are resorting to a socialistic – and atheistic – way of running government.
“[House Democrats] really have become the party of Karl Marx,” Cheney told Fox News.
One conservative commentator agreed with Cheney that Democrats are simply eliminating God as it pushes its godless agenda.
“Invoking God would mean the existence of an entity more powerful than the federal government, [a]nd that’s not what Democrats want to consider,” Clint Cooper wrote in an op-ed for the Times Free Press . “The words – according to an article in the William & Mary Law Review – are ‘an abbreviated form of the oath, ‘So may God help me at the judgment day if I speak true, but if I speak false, then may He withdraw His help from me.’ No God, no conscience, then no need for truth.”
Dems’ ongoing godless trend
For some time, the Democratic Party has supported the idea of eradicating God from its leftist agenda.
”At their 2012 national convention, God was left entirely out of the party’s platform,” WND noted . “When Gov. Ted Strickland moved to restore the reference, the delegates voted him down.”
After recently blasting homosexual Mayor of South Bend, Indiana, Pete Buttigieg, for questioning Vice President Mike Pence’s faith regarding his stance on same-sex marriage, Graham also schooled another 2020 Democratic presidential candidate.
“One lesson this week was addressed to Democratic presidential hopeful Cory Booker, who complained in an interview that the idea of ‘thoughts and prayers’ helping someone is just [expletive],’” WND recounted.
Graham took Booker to task on social media.
“Democratic presidential candidate Cory Booker obviously doesn’t know the power of prayer,” Graham argued in a Facebook post Sunday . “He said that thoughts and prayers after gun violence is BS. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. When people have lost loved ones, they need the comfort and strength that can only come from God.”
He elaborated on his thoughts.
“The solution for the problem in this country is much deeper than more laws,” Graham added. “The Bible says, ‘…out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies …’ (Matthew 15:19). Jesus’ words are true, and only He can transform the human heart. I’m sorry that some of our politicians have turned their backs on God. I’m going to continue to pray for victims of violence and their loved ones, and I’m going to continue to urge others to pray for them when these tragedies occur. Unless our nation calls on God and turns our heart toward Him, violence of all types will only continue to escalate.”
The context of Booker’s assault on Christianity – in the wake of the recent Colorado school shooting – was described by the conservative media.
“[Booker’s comments were a] passionate rant about gun control where he mocked those offering ‘thoughts and prayers’ with an expletive,” TheBlaze reported .
In his tirade against Christianity, Booker envisioned an America with him presiding from the Oval Office.
“So, when I’m president of the United States, I’m taking the fight to this issue like folks will never seen [sic] before because we’re better than this as a country,” Booker declared, according to WND. [It’s a uniquely American problem – no other country have this kind of carnage. More people in my lifetime have died in this nation – uh, due to gun violence – than in all the wars and revolutionary wars to now. We’re not gonna give thoughts and prayers – which to me is just b—— – and I’m sorry to say that as a man of faith, but I was taught that faith without works is dead.”
Republican National Committee Spokesperson Elizabeth Harrington addressed Booker’s rant.
“Cory Booker says thoughts and prayers are ‘[expletive],’ Harrington tweeted Friday . “The Democratic Party has gone from mocking us for ‘clinging to guns or religion’ to saying we will take your guns and your religion is ‘[expletive].’ Beyond offensive. We will keep our 1st and 2nd Amendment rights, thank you.”
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““Why has the Democratic Party turned its back on God?” Graham opened his Facebook post Tuesdaybefore offering his conclusion at the end. “The root of the issue is that many politicians don’t want God in any part of their politics or our country’s business because His standards condemn their sins.”
Sin sells …
Bottom line – people hate feeling guilty for their sins – and they want to still consider themselves as “good” people when doing the opposite of what God calls for in the Bible, and Graham indicates that by omitting God from politics, Democratic candidates can sell their agendas because sin without guilt sells.
The president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA) and Samaritan’s Purse made his case and point by bringing up the recent words of one Democratic congressman from Tennessee.
“Yesterday, the New York Times reported that since gaining the majority, Democrats have been making changes to House traditions – including sometimes omitting the words, ‘So help me God,’ from the swearing-in oath,” Graham wrote on Facebook. “Rep. Steve Cohen of TN said, ‘I think God belongs in religious institutions: in temple, in church, in cathedral, in mosque – but not in Congress.’”
Cohen – who serves as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties -- went on to argue that the Republican Party is going against God’s will by including Him as the backbone behind American society and government.
“[What Republicans are doing] is using God,” Cohen added, according to the New York Times. “And God doesn’t want to be used.”
The son of the iconic Billy Graham then offered the anti-Christian member of Congress from Memphis, Tennessee, and other Democratic leaders some sound biblical advice.
“I would say to Rep. Cohen and other politicians, basically what Rep. Garret Graves of LA said – ‘We need more of God, not less!’” Graham continued. “What Rep. Cohen is suggesting is just what Communism did in Eastern Europe and is still doing in places around the world like Cuba. Communism only allows worship inside approved churches. God is our Creator and the maker of the universe. He is present everywhere; He is not limited to churches or temples.”
But after the head of the House Energy and Commerce Oversight subcommittee, Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), conducted a hearing by swearing in witnesses without using God in the phrase, she was unapologetic when Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) brought it to her attention that “the oath was incorrect and incomplete.”
“This is the oath we use, and that’s the oath we’re going to use today,” DeGette told Duncan, according to the Times, which claimed that she was merely using the same oath that her predecessor, Rep. Gregg Harper (R- Miss.) used.
Regardless of the Democrat’s intentions, the Center for Inquiry – a nonprofit group committed to championing ‘a secular society based on reason, science, freedom of inquiry and humanist values’ – applauded DeGette’s ‘support for the constitutional separation of church and state,’ which is actually a concept devised by president Thomas Jefferson to actually keep the government from infringing on church affairs, but erroneously used by Democrats to abolish God from the public square.
Responding to DeGette’s decision to eliminate God from the oath, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) contended that Democrats are resorting to a socialistic – and atheistic – way of running government.
“[House Democrats] really have become the party of Karl Marx,” Cheney told Fox News.
One conservative commentator agreed with Cheney that Democrats are simply eliminating God as it pushes its godless agenda.
“Invoking God would mean the existence of an entity more powerful than the federal government, [a]nd that’s not what Democrats want to consider,” Clint Cooper wrote in an op-ed for the TimesFree Press. “The words – according to an article in the William & Mary Law Review – are ‘an abbreviated form of the oath, ‘So may God help me at the judgment day if I speak true, but if I speak false, then may He withdraw His help from me.’ No God, no conscience, then no need for truth.”
Dems’ ongoing godless trend
For some time, the Democratic Party has supported the idea of eradicating God from its leftist agenda.
”At their 2012 national convention, God was left entirely out of the party’s platform,” WND noted. “When Gov. Ted Strickland moved to restore the reference, the delegates voted him down.””
The democrat party is trying to eradicate God from public life. They see themselves via big government as being the gods ruling over us.
Not true, but it's a great idea. Why can't you keep your shit to yourself? How would you like it if Secular Humanists kept demanding time in your churches? It's absurd.
No, that's the Alt+Right SJWs. Those that have pushed conservative states to push anti-choice abortion bans use the government to play god. The whole fake religious freedom laws are a dumb attempt to use big government as god so bigots are free to be bigots without recourse.
Us Christians are just as American as anyone else and have every right to be in an influence government. Every citizen is a part of America and it’s government but not everyone is part of a church or synagogue. Prolife is simply following science and technology showing evidence the child being developed is human life and that viability, pain threshold, and heartbeats all happen earlier than thought in 1973. This info has already turned large majorities against 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions and whittled away at the size of the majority favoring it in the 1st trimester.
No more so than ANY religion in the USA. Even those Muslims that you hate so much. ALL religions get equal representation, like it or not.
I never said you couldn't. Only that the alt+right is the antithesis of the ideals that formed the the Republic.
I couldn't stop laughing long enough to finish that line.
I love it when prolifers claim to use science to suport their position, because it's clear they don't understand the science or what it says about fetal development in the stages of development. Science has allowed the expansion of abortion limits since Roe.
Disagree, your churches do not pay taxes.
YOU do.
What are you talking about? The viability thresholds haven't changed since 73. You're apparently clueless about late trimester abortions.
It's a secular society, so yea, they should. If you want religion, go to a church or your home.
That isn’t what the founding fathers said or wrote or did.
It's exactly what they said. Read the first amendment.
The Founding Fathers established a secular nation with a religiously neutral government. The constitution does not declare a religious basis or preference in either the government or country as a whole!
BHAHAHA, now that's interesting. WHAT do you think they did...solidify Christianity as the religion in this country? No, they didn't do that for a very specific reason.
They held church services in the US Capitol building and openly prayed to open government meetings. They openly talked about how only a religious moral people could maintain our republic and on that they are obviously right as secular progressives are morally unfit to hold public office or lead us.
WOW !!!
I know, right? Quite the sweeping generalization.
I've got an update for you. Its a really interesting read on this very subject.
And you consider yourself to be morally fit....By what standard, hypocrisy
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God!
Salon? Lol!
Considering your posting history, replete with misinformation or out right erroneous assertions, that statement is utterly meaningless.
How ridiculous!
wow...that's just a stupid comment.
It is spot on and 100% correct on every point.
It's not the dems that have turned their backs, it's the repubs when they threw their lot in with that disgusting POS trump. No REAL Christian can be a trump supporter. Trump is completely devoid of morals. He literally embraces the exact opposite of what Jesus preached. Obama is a FAR better Christian than trump will ever be.
Amen !
You assume that Obama actually is a practicing Christian. The choice was Trump or Clinton.
Actually, he is - unlike Trump.
"I'm wondering what one or two of your most favorite Bible verses are and why."
"I wouldn't want to get into it," Trump said, "because to me that's very personal. You know, when I talk about the Bible it's very personal so I don't want to get into verses. The Bible means a lot to me but I don't want to get into specifics."
"Are you an Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy?" Heilemann asked.
"Probably equal," Trump said. "I think it's just incredible, the whole Bible is incredible."
The following month, David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network asked Trump on camera why it was he expressed such fondness for the Bible. "So many things, like you know, you take, whatever you want to say, there's so many things that you can learn from it," Trump said. "Proverbs. The chapter, 'never bend to envy.' I've had that thing all of my life where people are bending to envy."
There is no scripture, not Proverbs or anywhere else in the bible that says "never bend to envy", but anyone who has actually read the bible already knows that.
"And there's just, actually, it's an incredible book, so many things you can learn from the Bible," he told Brody. "And you can lead your life — and I'm not just talking in terms of religion I'm talking in terms of leading a life even beyond a religion. There are so many brilliant things in the Bible. … The Bible is the most special thing."
"Two Corinthians, 3:17, that's the whole ballgame."
"I mean, you know, when we get into the Bible, I think many, so many. And I tell people, look, 'An eye for an eye,' you can almost say that."
It really is amazing that anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the bible would ever believe a word this moron has to say about it.
And then you get the fact he's cheated on all three wives multiple times, been accused of sexual assault at least 19 times, admitted in his own words saying "I don't even wait" for consent to start kissing women he finds attractive and then claims he just grabs them "by the pussy".
If it weren't actually happening I would have to believe it was a huge joke. A ridiculous prank, an April fools day shenanigan where evangelicals and conservative Christians were championing this monolith of immorality, this king of slime, this serially and morally bankrupt con man trying to sell his Trump brand "Miracle water". But here we are, in bizzaro land, where up is down, left is wrong, right is right, adulterers are Saints, liars are believed, and morality is so subjective its reasoned that the icon of filth is now revered as a prophet.
I intend to make sure nobody ever forgets it. They should NEVER be allowed to push that 'we are so pious' crap again without being reminded.
Trump has become a believer since he realized what a big job running for and becoming President really is and realized his need for a higher power. He turned to God and sought the council of His believers here.
Wow, if people really believe that, they'll believe anything.
And the breathtaking abuse of logic:
" Trump has become a believer " means that he was not a believer . Thus Trump (as a non-believer) realized the magnitude of the presidency and felt he needed a higher power. So the non-believing Trump extemporaneously became a believer in order to get access to a higher power that he hitherto did not believe in.
Why has the Democratic Party turned its back on God?” Graham opened his Facebook post Tuesday before offering his conclusion at the end. “The root of the issue is that many politicians don’t want God in any part of their politics or our country’s business because His standards condemn their sins.”
“The root of the issue is that many politicians don’t want God in any part of their politics or our country’s business
He says many politicians so we are to presume he is including the GOP members as well? In truth most folks I know believe that God belongs in a temple, church, synagogue, mosque etc., not in business or Government.
God belongs everywhere and the following of him most certainly is not limited to our church, temple or home.
Any God in particular you have in mind?
God belongs everywhere and the following of him most certainly is not limited to our church, temple or home.
Yes I agree bring him or her anywhere that one chooses, just leave it out of our Government. We have religious freedom what we need is freedom from it.
God doesn't belong in our laws and government, per the Constitution. But you're free to follow whatever you want, or not.
Christians are part of our country so no doubt we bring our perspective to governing when we hold public office. There never will be any such thing as freedom from religion in America. Only the freedom to believe in any God or religion we want or none at all.
So you want a theocracy then. Thanks for showing your true colors and lack of respect for the Constitution.
Funny that I never said what you attribute to me. The truth would be nice at times.
You practically said as much when you claim "there will never be any such thing as feed on from religion in America." Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.And you're hardly one to talk about truth, considering all the times you've demonstrated the lack of it.
"Why has the democratic party turned its back on gawd?"
It hasn't. The Trumpers have. The reach of The Deceiver is long. His Shadow is longer.
The great deceiver gave us Obama and almost foisted Hillary off on us.
Pity, the God you proclaim is so weak, the 'deceiver' let Obama slip through. Might want to take Roman 13:2 under advisement.
As a believer I saw Obama-'s presidency as a test for the body of Christ. How did the body accept a man and his family that professed faith in Christ? It didn't, failed miserably, IMO.
https://thenewstalkers.com/make-america-great-again/group_discuss/6173/is-progressive-christianity-dangerous I see it differently...
To Graham, God is green and he folds
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To those who saw my censored reply I stand by it and double down on the intent behind it. And for those who didn’t, it was just me speaking my mind.
I doubt anyone else cares.
That you don’t care is a plus for me. As to the post I refer to #2 above says largely the same thing so oh well. I’m used to being the most censored member here when I’m speaking my mind or saying what I think in my own words rather than quoting what someone else said.
More victim playing I see.
And some are factually bankrupt.
Except when they're not.
Thanks for noticing.
I know you're being sarcastic. I was just playing along.
As I said before, that's your preogative.
As if... someone missed the obvious sarc
Exactly. Thanks 🙏
I see you ignored my other posts, as I already addressed that.
Oh, please.
I'm stealing that !
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Some people have no humor at all around here. Makes one wonder why we are even here.
Self-righteousness should never be confused with Godliness.The judgements and condemnation by Mr. Graham are not based on scripture.
Sad he's considered a spokesperson for christianity, spouting "The root of the issue is that many politicians don’t want God in any part of their politics or our country’s business because His standards condemn their sins.”
Wonder how he knows the hearts and minds of these many politicians! He doesn't...sin of pride perhaps?
Sitting in judgement over Christians who aren’t progressives?
Being a good Christian, if they are a true Christian, should not be judged by their political beliefs like you like to do. Whether or not they are progressives should not matter to a true God. Only your God seems to care about that more than their souls.
Yes, I do criticize all fakeass Paulist reichtwing small c christian fundies whenever they abuse the name of Christ to advocate for wars and for torturing people and for cutting public aid to the poor, the sick and the oppressed in order to give even more tax breaks and advantages to the already unconscionably rich and powerful because Christ absolutely without a doubt would have abhorred all such hypocritical false grace...
Whether a Christian is conservative or liberal surely we can agree judgements and condemnations are not ours to make. Mr. Graham made the statement , for millions to read, I'm asking why. Where is the love bestowed upon his sinful life being poured out into the Democrats in his statement?
It is said that Jesus did not stutter. No, I believe He did not stammer when He said unto the multitude, "When I was naked you clothed Me. When I was hungry you fed Me. When I was ill you comforted Me. When I was in jail you visied Me. When I was a stranger, a refugee in your land, you welcomed Me. For whatsoever you did for these the least among you, you also did unto Me". Plain enough?